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Will the GOP Ticket Win 2012 Election On Medicare Debate?

That seems to be one of the major calculations behind Mitt Romney’s selection of Paul Ryan as his VP nominee.  This weekend, Ryan stood in front of thousands at The Villages senior community in Florida to deliver the GOP message on Medicare.

We can’t allow Medicare to be the piggybank for Obamacare.


RELATED ITEM: Fighting to Win – Stephen Hayes at Weekly Standard

Too much focus on Medicare for Democrats? Republicans could campaign on entitlement reform and win? A running mate who actually will affect the outcome of a presidential race? So much for conventional wisdom.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)



  1. Can R-R successfully out-Democrat the Democrats on Medicare? We shall see.

    The problem from my standpoint is that, like the Democrats, they still aren’t telling people the truth about America’s fiscal situation. Which is: We can’t afford Medicare, or Medicaid or Social Security – even with Obamacare repealed. The numbers just aren’t going to add up.

    On a scale of fiscal profligacy, if Obama is a 10, then R-R are at least 7. Romney prototyped Obamacare; Ryan voted for TARP and NCLB; both support repeal of Obamacare, but are making Medicare the centerpiece of their campaign.

    It goes without saying that I’ll take the 7-8 over the 10 – and hope they will prove to be 5s when in office – but… that, in a nutshell, is why America is in trouble. And both parties are at fault.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 19, 2012 @ 2:38 pm - August 19, 2012

  2. Damn right the GOP can win in November….. The folks in Chicago thought they were gonna run a campaign that trashes Mitt Romney and his record … but now with the announcement of Paul Ryan, Mr Obama is being forced to argue the direction his administration has and will take the country. — An argument this president can’t win.

    Comment by Spartann — August 19, 2012 @ 3:19 pm - August 19, 2012

  3. I saw Ann Coulter this morning on Fox & Friends and she made a good point – if SnObama can’t turn this thing around by mid-October, there will probably be some kind of foreign policy action taken (think Israel and/or Iran) that will be the administration’s “October surprise.”

    Also, is it not a coincidence that Romney is releasing his 2011 tax records on October 15? Hmmm…

    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — August 19, 2012 @ 3:43 pm - August 19, 2012

  4. Let the Democrats run on Obamacare and Medicare, …the GOP can win if they stay-focused on JOBS and the Economy.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — August 19, 2012 @ 4:58 pm - August 19, 2012

  5. I think there is something of a common theme running through here. The left is wholly reliant on demagoguery of the Republicans and people like Ryan in order for them to stay in office. They have no record to run on, which is making people distrust the claims that are constantly coming from that side of the aisle. I believe the media’s control of “objective” information is really the only reason any reasonable person believes what they say anymore.
    But as often happens (with gays, war on drugs, Republicans) the reality of the situation comes crashing hard against perception. When a person meets Joe Schmoe gay, or sees people who smoke pot aren’t raging zombies, or hears Ryan speak and see he isn’t trying to throw old grannies off cliffs, they start to distrust the left, their messages and their messengers. What is the Teleprompter in Chief reader to do when no matter how pretty the words, no one believes them anymore?

    Comment by Tim in MT — August 19, 2012 @ 8:08 pm - August 19, 2012

  6. The Republicans launched a preemptive strike and it has totally wrong footed the Democrats. The Ds made no secret of their tactics – demonize Ryan – granny off the cliff. R&R were waiting all locked and loaded.

    The Democrats, because of their intellectual bubble and the feckless 2008 Republican campaign, are sitting smugly behind their Maginot Line. It won’t be pretty, but might prove somewhat entertaining.

    Comment by Roy Lofquist — August 19, 2012 @ 10:32 pm - August 19, 2012

  7. ObamaTax fundamentally changed the Medicare debate; essentially, thanks to the Democrats, Medicare collapses into ObamaTax on purpose. That’s why they stole $700 billion of Medicare to fund ObamaTax. ObamaTax remains a toxic, radioactive tar baby for all Democrats & they remain stuck in the mire, although they are in denial.

    That’s why the Mediscare tactics have backfired. RomneyRyan2012 wisely played offense on the issue & took control of the narrative since they know ObamaTax remains unpopular. The Democrats are now forced to defend their ObamaTax votes.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — August 20, 2012 @ 9:30 am - August 20, 2012

  8. The campaign is now taking place on the ground and the airwaves in about 15 states (notably FL,OH,PA,VA, NC, WI), almost all of which are must-win for Romney-Ryan. The rest of us are in the cheap seats.

    Comment by Jeremayakovka — August 20, 2012 @ 10:13 am - August 20, 2012

  9. And yet, Jeremayakovka, here in the Portland, Oregon metro area (in some ways, bluer than Berkeley) Team Urkel continues to spend BIG BUCKS attacking Romney in TV ads. I REALLY want to know what their internal polling is telling them. I think they know they’re gonna get their asses handed to them.

    Comment by Bastiat Fan — August 20, 2012 @ 11:55 am - August 20, 2012

  10. Hey, guess who’s sweating? This isn’t on Medicare, but it’s on the Obama campaign, and packed with teh funz:

    Lots of dirt about how Obama’s staff fight among themselves, but unite in their hatred of Romeny. But this was, for me, the laugh line:

    The two things Obama fears most about a Romney victory: A 7-to-2 conservative Supreme Court within a few years. And the equally unbearable possibility, in his mind, that Romney will get to take a victory lap on an economic rebound Obama sees as just around the corner. “I’m not going to let him win … so that he can take credit when the economy turns around,” Obama said, according to an aide.

    Wow. Talk about denial. Obama seriously thinks the economy can recover, with Him as president!

    And this:

    During secret Sunday Roosevelt Room meetings with his top political and White House advisers, Obama has expressed concerns that the enthusiasm gap between his 2008 and 2012 support could cost him the election…

    Ya think? Golly, an enthusiasm gap… who knew? 🙂

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 20, 2012 @ 1:00 pm - August 20, 2012

  11. ILC, what jumped out at about that article is Team SCOAMF’s complete lack of interest in creating jobs or closing the deficit in contrast with their obsessions with personal vendettas.

    Comment by V the K — August 20, 2012 @ 3:21 pm - August 20, 2012

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