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  1. The do-nothing Democratic Senate? What about the propose-no-serious-legislation-obstructionist-Republicans who filibuster even historically bipartisan legislation?

  3. Another_Jeremy, please explain why the Democratically-controlled Senate has not passed a budget resolution in over 3 years even though they only need a simple majority to do so.

    And please identify all legislation that Republicans have successfully filibustered in the current Senate, then explain why the Democratic Senate has yet to take up the approximately 30 job-creating bills passed by the Republican House.

    Thanks!

  4. The Democrat Senate has passed no budgets, not even voted on the 27 jobs bills the House has sent over, but has tried, I think, three times to overturn Citizens United.

    Show me what you vote on, and I’ll show you what you value. The Demonrats don’t want to be fiscally responsible, they don’t want to create jobs… They just want power.

  5. Hi, Another_Jeremy. See, here’s one of the many problems with your claim;

    The Republicans DIDN’T filibuster very much. Oh, they threatened to, but how many times did they actually do so?

    Another problem is that the Senate is supposed to pass a budget resolution. Every year. Why wasn’t one done before Ted Kennedy died? The Republicans couldn’t have filibustered or stopped that, could they? Or did they, much like the President himself, not want their names actually attached to anything?

    And while the filibuster is legal (and apparently bad only when “the other side” does it. I heard no such complaint from Dems when THEY used it, you know, like dissent was okay when GW Bush was in office, but magically isn’t okay now that Obama is), not passing a budget really isn’t. The continuing resolution fix was never intended to be used as a replacement to an actual budget, and I think you know that.

    Isn’t it funny how you and others like you can scream “but you did it too!” and never offer any alternatives? So am I to assume that, should Romney take office, you will scream just as long and just as loud when and if Dems become “do-nothings”? Somehow I doubt it.

  6. Acethepug

    Using the argument that they merely threatened filibusters is a desperate dodge. The Senate rules have long ended the tradition of Mr. Smith goes to Washington style speeches that were once necessary to obstruct the government. In the 60s (read civil rights movement) 8% of legislation was subject to “extended debate related problems” while in the 110th Congress 70% of the bills were. In the 110th Congress there were 139 or so cloture motions filed. And that’s not counting all filibusters. Just the ones that the Democrats tried to break.

    You can’t have it both ways. You cannot imply that the Republicans are merely exercising their right to dissent by filibustering everything AND that they aren’t doing it. I don’t know many people who would disagree with you about the ineffectiveness of Senate. But calling the Senate “do-nothing” and laying the blame at the feet of Harry Reid while ignoring the fact that the Republicans have been blocking bills at historic levels is simply dishonest. There have been an unprecedented number of filibusters by the GOP in the 111th Congress. As there were in the 110th. Start there if you want to have any serious discussion about the Congress being ineffectual.