Why does the behavior of two boorish participants at a political convention mention this kind of coverage?
Well, the story does fit the media narrative of a racist Republican Party. We don’t even know if the two people who engaged in what the convention organizers rightly called “deplorable behavior” were even Republicans.
Interesting that the source of the story is David Shuster a man with a reputation for anti-Republican bias. (He now works for Al Gore’s CurrentTV.)
“It appears,” report that staff at Twichy, that “Shuster didn’t actually witness the nut-throwing event. It’s also worth mentioning that Shuster, who was indefinitely suspended from MSNBC in 2010, has been a frequent topic here at Twitchy, known more for his deplorable behavior than for his veracity.”
What is more newsworthy that the juvenile antics of two unidentified convention participants if what one identified Yahoo! bureau chief did say:
Yahoo News has fired Washington bureau chief David Chalian after he was caught on a hot-mic during an online video broadcast saying that Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, had no problem with African Americans suffering as a result of Hurricane Isaac, a source familiar with the situation tells POLITICO.
“They’re not concerned at all. They’re happy to have a party with black people drowning,” Chalian said over a break during the ABC News/Yahoo News webcast, in reference to the fact that the GOP convention in Tampa is taking place as Hurricane Isaac makes landfall on the north Gulf coast.
Good on Yahoo! for firing the guy. But, the question remains: how did a guy who would say such a thing advance so far in a “news” service. As Roger Simon put it, “the climate in which he would make such an insane statement is very much alive and well. Why would anyone dream of saying such a thing in a semi-public situation if he didn’t feel safe and among friends?”
Wonder if Mr. Chalian opined that Obama is not concerned at all about the storm-tossed people of Louisiana given that the Democrat continues to campaign while the rains fall and the waters rise. (Wasn’t that rise supposed to slow under Obama’s watch?)
Chalian has apologized for what he called a “joke”.
It does seem Mr. Chalian is representative of a pattern, of journalists finding racism “wherever they can find it — or make it up.” As Mark Hemingway observes, Reporters in Tampa seem to be Working Hard to Cover Nonexistent Racism“.
The real story of racism is not what two unidentified rubes shouted at a CNN reporter, but the assumptions that reporters like Chalian have made. “The executives at Yahoo, and ABC, where Chalian once worked,” Simon concludes . . .
. . . are obviously in damage-control mode. But they would be better advised to examine the culture (their culture) that allowed this to happen. What is most horrifying about Chalian’s comment was that there was nothing surprising about it. If Yahoo, ABC and all the others actually consider themselves news organizations, it’s time to take a serious and lengthy look in the mirror.
Read the whole thing. Glenn Reynolds, who linked Roger’s piece, has more.
UPDATE: AOL is on top of the real story:
Interesting . . . the story about a camera woman being harassed at the RNC quickly turned into a story about a yahoo employee getting fired. Oh and the guy who reported the story on the woman was probably lying. Liberal after all. Or at least liberal by association. But oh yeah Obama probably doesn’t care about hurricane victims either (the very claim you maintained was ridiculous when made against Romney) and no one’s saying anything about that?
Bring something other than this weak mess to the table Dan.
Desperation, thy name is Another_Jeremy.
It’s all they got!
He didn’t say that.
He doesn’t if the same standards are applied to Obama that are applied to Romney. Seriously…
Some people make it really hard to abide by the civility rules here.
As far as I know, he didn’t go to TN or KY when folks were freezing to death there in, I believe, 2009. If I’m not mistaken, that’s when they had the WH party with the Wagyu Beef. Further, I’m fairly certain that he still hasn’t visited the areas hit by the flooding in Nashville two years ago.
Not to mention (and it barely was), there’s many stories out there where the SCOAMF’s feds declined requests for federal disaster assistance. That’s a story you really have to dig for.
Long story short, why should anybody believe he gives a damn about hurricane victims (except during a campaign year when he’s desperate as all hell)?
@ Rattlesnake
He said the man who reported the story of the camera woman was biased against Republicans though he cited nothing about the story that was biased or inflammatory. Then he went on to mention that we don’t know for sure that the perpetrators at the RNC were Republicans. Which I think is . . .well . . .I’ll say a little weak.
He was obviously trying to draw a parallel between the comment of the news anchor and the harassment of the camera woman, but he did it in a disingenuous way. He insinuated that the comment of the news anchor was connected to the left but had no problem writing off the incident with the CNN camera woman as just random whackjobs . .who (according to him) may not even be Republicans. And hell, even some Republicans did throw food at her and call her an animal that’s not nearly as racist as saying someone conservative wants to see black people drown, right? Hmmmm.
Not very fair and balanced imo.
Thank you, Rattlesnake, for that defense and for clarifying things smartly and succinctly.
No, Another_Jeremy, that wasn’t what I was trying to do. I was simply saying that the story that wasn’t newsworthy earned a Yahoo! headline while the story that was newsworthy wasn’t.
In the story that garnered headlines, two unidentified individuals behaved in a deplorable manner–something people do every day, the other revealed the bias of a man who determines news content for a major web-site/source of news.
Perhaps, I am partly to blame for your misunderstanding because, in my haste to complete the post, I neglected to choose categories in which to place it. I have done that now. And the category I chose was “Media Bias.” That should make things clearer.
He reported relevant information without putting any spin on it. Hopefully, people are intelligent enough to make their own conclusions. And, you seriously think they weren’t random whackjobs? Even if they were Republicans, they were condemned and expelled from the convention.
I love how you say Dan is insinuating sinister things about the reporter involved (which clearly isn’t the case) while you make absurd conclusions (i.e. that there is a possibility that these weren’t “random whackjobs”) that do not follow whatsoever from any of the facts of the case. And you’re criticizing him for being weak…
Easy answer, Another_Jeremy.
The story in question was posted on and hyped by a website whose editor was caught on tape making it clear that he is bigoted and deliberately lies/slants news coverage about Republicans.
You are trying to accuse Dan of not being fair and balanced while you openly endorse and support David Chalian’s outright, blatant, and proven bigotry.
And again, because Dan is a decent person, he is allowing himself to be manipulated by a disgusting piece of liberal trash like you who says nothing, repeat NOTHING, about David Chalian’s unbalanced and unfair “reporting”.
I did not say Dan was weak. I said implying that the people who threw food at that woman and called her an animal were not Republicans is a very generous conclusion at which to arrive.
Dan drew a parallel between a black camera woman being assaulted and harassed with the comments of a man who works for yahoo saying the Republican candidate doesn’t care about black people drowning. One of those acts was more deplorable than the other. You can figure out which is which.
It’s very strange to hear you not even focusing on the woman who was attacked as much as desperately trying to concoct a false dichotomy in which conservatives are the real victims. Just like it was strange to hear the outrage of the angry Gay Republicans when they pointed out that there were several people who booed a gay member of the military who asked about DADT during a Republican debate. Just random whackjobs. And everyone that cheered when Santorum said gays shouldn’t be in the military? Oops.
The real point of your stupid article was to refute the fact that the Republican party blatantly panders to white racists. But it’s simply true. Be it by relentlessly repeating the lie that the black President may be a foreigner (which a recent Dartmouth poll found that 56% of Republicans STILL believe), constantly depicting blacks as a mindless blob that doesn’t vote the issues (after all Republicans ended slavery 150 years ago), cherrypicking the voting record of blacks as a demographic against gay rights legislation (a particularly comical tactic given the Republican record on gay rights) to racialize what has always been a type of religious intolerance while pretending it’s the Democrats who are racist for not repudiating black people (as if opposing anti-gay activists is a repudiation of white people), inflamming white resentment against welfare recipients by lying about Obama ending the work requirement, and inexplicably calling the first President to be raised in an interracial home racist against white people.
I recall no such repudiation of Andrew Breitbart when he deliberately edited that tape of Shirley Sherrod’s speech to make it appear that she was using her government job to discriminate against white people. But when some people at your party’s National Convention throw things at a black camera woman, this must all be the result of some wicked plot to make Republicans out to be racist. After all, someone who works for the Network made a statement about Romney not caring about black people drowning. And what of the other networks who ran the story? Were they in on the anti-Republican conspiracy also? All Republicans are not racist, but it’s pretty lame of you to suggest that they don’t turn up the racist innuendo to pander to a portion of the far right.
Jeremy, you use a lot of words to say I’m not quite sure what.
Here, just answer this one question, why is the deplorable behavior of these two unknown individuals newsworthy?
The media is so obvious with their bias. In each succeeding Republican convention since 1988 I have noticed an increase in non-white delegates, which the media tries to avoid. In this years convention I have noticed an appreciable number of african americans, asians, and hispanics. I´ll bet dollars to donuts that the media cameras did not pan around the the floor. In 1988 when Paloma Bush was delivering her seconding speech in Spanish for her father-in-law GHW Bush, the media turned away to inview delgates regarding some minor issue. Later , the same thing when a second speech was being made by a black person. At that time I was switching back and forth from C-SPAN to ABC. The media is determined to paint the Republican Party as the party of old white men. As I have said from time to time, we conservatives have ourselves to blame. Decades ago, we have ceded education K through university to the progressives. The products have the system are the editors and reporters of our newspapers; the presidents, the producers, and the moderators of the major networks. We need to take back the government, but we also need to take back our educational system. Conservatives need to run for school boards, city college boards so we can have curriculums that are factual and untainted by progressive ideology.
It’s known that MSNBC’s coverage deliberately cuts away from any Republican speaker who isn’t white. (Susanna Martinez, Artur Davis, and more.) Isn’t *that* racist?
That’s easy.
Those would be names, facts, and referenceable details, all of which were presented.
You don’t have any of those for your story, and your source for it is David Shuster — who, as has been made clear on numerous occasions, will say and do anything to smear Republicans, including lie about them.
So you want us to treat your allegation, which has no names, no facts, and no details — and was made by a proven liar and anti-Republican bigot — the same as the proven, referenceable, and confirmed behavior by multiple sources, including Yahoo’s own internal investigation and his personal admittance, of David Chalian.
Furthermore, you, having made this statement:
expect us to give you any benefit of the doubt when it comes to truthfulness about Republicans.
Roger Simon nailed you and your fellow Obama puppets beautifully yesterday.
And that’s just it. You have nothing to offer. Your Obama has nothing to offer. You are failures, worthless welfare cases who know nothing but consumption and have no value whatsoever to any part of a functioning society. All you can do is demand things from other people, then scream “racist” when they refuse it.
Without Obama in office, you have nothing. Under Romney and the Republicans, you will be judged by character rather than by minority status, and under those circumstances, you, your Barack Obama, and your entire Obama base are staring financial and social ruin square in the face.
#14.. when I posted that same fact online at the local paper, the liberal response : “Networks don’t show minor and inconsequential politicians.” So all conservative minorities are “inconsequential”. How racist is that.
They are inconsequential because they have very little political influence. Not because they are minorities.
And Dan, the point is simple.
Conservatives have no credibility in making arguments about racism given the inflammatory nature of their rhetoric on race and immigrants.
This story would not be newsorthy if Republicans were not busily fabricating stories about the racism of the current administration. Your outrage is especially specious given the fact that the majority of voting Republicans now refuse to accept the legitimacy of the citizenship status of the President of the US for no other reason than the fact that he is not white.
To North Dallas
http://www.timwise.org/2012/08/if-it-walks-like-a-duck-and-talks-like-a-duck-racism-bigotry-and-the-death-of-respectable-conservatism/
So again, Jeremy says that minorites ‘don’t matter’ without sources or ignoring the fact that they do matter. Positively.
Facts to Jeremy is like sunlight to vampires. Or roaches.
So the nation’s FIRST female+Hispanic governor is “minor and inconsequential”? Looks like more liberal racism.
Of course throwing nuts at a black woman while calling her an animal is more deplorable than what Chalian said (and no one said otherwise), but they are both deplorable. And the fact that the people who threw the nuts were anonymous idiots who were promptly thrown out, while Chalian is apparently a somewhat-notable journalist, renders the latter more newsworthy than the former.
Of course the woman is a victim and deserves sympathy. But I am not going to just let people use this incident to paint conservatives as racist, nor is Dan or others. No-one said “conservatives are the real victims,” but the blame should be affixed to where it is due (i.e. the jackasses who threw the nuts at her, not her nor the Republican Party). It is clear that that is not the intent of Yahoo.
HA!
They’re idiots, but thinking someone is a foreigner doesn’t make them racist. If you can find a poll that says the same people think all black people are foreigners, then they’re racist.
Uh, that is the left. After all, they are the ones who constantly call black conservatives “Uncle Toms” et cetera.
So, you’re denying that black people, in general, support “gay rights legislation”? I think the point is that the left criticizes the right for being anti-gay while some of the left’s primary constituents are similarly anti-gay but aren’t criticized.
That has to do with race, how?
The entire left is full of racism. Including some of Obama’s policies (such as affirmative action). They judge people based on skin colour. That is racism.
Again, no one said that.
You’re delusional.
In other words, “shut up about anything that even has something remotely to do with race, or you are inflaming racism, even though we constantly judge people based on race and want an unreasonable immigration policy. Don’t you dare defend your positions or talk about our racism.”
Actually, it’s because he himself represented for years that he was born in Kenya.
If you’d like to say that Obama deliberately lied about his birthplace, go ahead.
If you’d like to say that Obama inexplicably never read his own author’s biography for sixteen years, go ahead.
But of course, you’re not going to do that, because it would be responding to the facts; instead you’re just going to scream “racist”.
And that’s all you and your friends like Tim Wise ever do is scream “racist”. Everything is “racist”. Everyone is “racist”. Any one who criticizes Obama is ‘racist”. Any fact that contradicts Obama is “racist”. Anyone who votes against Obama does so out of “racism”.
The hilarity comes when you flip that over and point out what you do endorse and state. You insist that everything a black man says is true because of his skin color. You insist that everything a black man does is right because of his skin color. You insist that everyone should vote for Obama because of his skin color. You insist that every word said, every statement made, is all about skin color.
To paraphrase Pogo, you have met the racists, and they is you.
Why? Duh. You call people racists in order to smear them and to shut them up. You and your bigot friend Tim Wise are violent abusers who have lost the argument, realize that Obama is a complete and total imbecile, and see your grip on power fading away. And like the spoiled toddlers you are, you just raise the volume of screaming.
CNN Camerawoman Patricia Carroll:
1. “This situation could happen to me at the Democratic convention or standing on the street corner … Racism is a global issue.”
2. Carroll said the head of the delegation — she wasn’t sure of which state — told her the nut-throwers were alternates, not delegates.
3. She also noted there weren’t many black women at the convention in Tampa.
Bingo.
And this is what you have to realize about people like Another_Jeremy, Cinesnatch, rusty, and Levi.
They do not want an intelligent conversation; they want you to shut up and give them their way.
Furthermore, if you do not give them their way or do as they say, they will destroy you personally and professionally.
This is the groundswell in this election. We have realized that people like rusty, Levi, Cinesnatch, and Another_Jeremy truly do not see us as human or worthy of tolerance. They want us silenced — even, as we see from the FRC shooting and the rantings of Dan Savage, eradicated. For all their talk about standards and principles and equality, the only thing that matters to them at the end of the day is that we are out of their sight and out of their way. We are to sign the checks and shut up — and if we don’t, or if we dare assert our rights, they will use the court system and the government to force us to do it while they live rent-free, insurance-premium-free, mortgage-free, food-bill-free, and work-free on our paychecks.
When recounting the incident to a friend and co-journalist, Jamila Bey wrote:
“She told me that RNC security investigated by asking of the assailants, ‘Were they black or were they white?’ ‘Are you kidding me, Jamila?’ she asked. ‘I’m from the Deep South! I know racism when I see it and when it’s being thrown at me. No black person would have done that!'”
The offer to “see” you has been presented and you have refused to meet on multiple occasions. The offer still stands to have coffee and talk. And, if you were intolerable, one wouldn’t visit GP, because you’re almost always here, ‘trying to be silenced.’
Of course.
If you break trust with and behave abominably toward one of my friends, I think it quite natural to believe that you would do the same to me.
Especially since since that breach of trust involved you taking personal information about me shared in good faith and trying to use it to attack and blackmail me.
Between your whining about posting standards, your calls for bans, and your complaining “if you don’t criticize NDT’s statements, you’re a bad person”, I think most people would agree that the only thing you really do here is to try to shut up and silence conservatives.
Bingo. And I’d bet Another_Jeremy knew that… and chose to state the lie, anyway.
Rattlesnake
You are just truly appalled that a reporter could say something about about how Mitt Romney doesn’t care about black people drowning. Ok. Cool.
And Rush Limbaugh? Saying Obama is inciting white kids to beat up black kids? Doing racist impersonations of Asian heads of state? Did you write your Congressman about him or ask that he be fired? How about when Brent Bozell (of the conservative Media Research Center) called Obama a skinny ghetto crackhead? How about when Rusty DePass said a gorilla was an ancestor of Michelle Obama? What about when Marilyn Davenport circulated an email of Obama’s face on a chimpanzee? What about when Republicans said the fake “New Black Panther Party” was preventing people from voting? What about when the WSJ (with utter disregard for the facts) blamed the government’s mandate that banks be “forced” (LIE) to grant subprime mortgages to minorities?
Nope. None of that was racist. But the typical response from a conservative to the litany of accusations of racism is to say that Dems are calling conservatives racist for no reason. And your answer to their proof is to come up with a guy who says something incendiary (but not racist) about Mitt Romney? Calling people racist is the new racism, huh? Nope. Acting like racism doesn’t exist (unless it’s against white people) despite plain evidence to the contrary is the new racism.
What white President was ever characterized as a “foreigner?” Even Presidents who enacted far more revolutionary domestic policies never had their citizenship status constantly challenged. And then your candidate makes light of this wide spread ignorance among conservatives by making a joke about it? If you mean to say that the people who do not accept that Obama is American are idiots that’s a huge percentage of the Republican party. Almost 80% according to the recent Darthmouth poll.
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~benv/files/poll%20responses%20by%20party%20ID.pdf
And you still have yet address the racist assumption that blacks only support Obama because he is black or that they are too stupid to realize that a Republican ended slavery.
Affirmative action? That was enacted by a white President? The program that the majority of the recipients of are white women? I don’t remember widespread accusations that Lyndon Johnson, Nixon, Kennedy or Bill Clinton were racists. Btws, you should also say that affirmative action is sexist. It has applied to women since 1968, and white women are the majority of it’s recipients. And what of the silence from the right about legacy admissions to schools that overwhelmingly favor wealthy white people?
The left is criticized for being anti-gay because it’s most prominent figures openly campaign against the rights of gay Americans. Attempts to racialize the issue despite the fact that white, conservative hero President Bush proposed an amendment to the constitution to ban gay marriage are EMBARRASSING. Black people (as a demographic) vote for candidates who support gay rights legislation. Meanwhile the bigots who are electing anti-gay legislators (REPUBLICANS) are the ones you give a free pass? What kind of argument is that? Well our side is homophobic, but so is part of your side even though they elect candidates who support gay rights? It’s a pathetic and desperate dodge.
And please stop playing dumb about the racist imagery of “Welfare Queens” living large on the government’s dime and black men buying T-Bone steaks with their gov’t aide that started under Reagan.
It is not delusion. It is carefully calculated propaganda that has been going on for decades.
I just have to point out the dynamic here.
1) Leftists mis-manage the country.
2) Leftists consequently lose their grip on power.
3) Unable to deal with (2), and suffering from their personal racism, leftists make up myths about conservatives being racists.
4) Republicans are having a great convention, something to give the counry real hope and feel positive about.
5) Unable to deal with (4) as well as (2), a leftist comes here to drag everyone down by spewing his hateful, dishonest bile, wherein his side’s gross racism somehow belongs to conservatives.
I don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh and I don’t have a Congressman. If he said that, I condemn him and I don’t care for him anyway.
There are idiots and bigots on both sides. These racist morons have nothing to do with me, I’ve never heard of any of them, and their views do not reflect mine or those of most other conservatives.
Regardless of whether either of those assertions are true, neither is racist. And the New Black Panther Party is not fake. Its chairman is Malik Zulu Shabazz.
A whole ideology cannot be condemned because of what a few obscure idiots who claim to espouse that ideology say. If such racist statements were actually common among conservatives, you would have a point.
Who said what Chalian said was racist?
Trying to eliminate racism with more racism (i.e. affirmative action, et cetera) is not going to work. I know you think there is some widespread racist attitude, but, that isn’t the case.
See NDT’s comment #22. Specifically this part:
Which Obama himself is doing. I guess Obama is provoking racist attitudes.
Are people really saying that? I’ve never heard it, but anyone who says that is an idiot.
Anyone who supports affirmative action is racist. I don’t care who it is. Sexist too.
What’s your point? There are white people who oppose “gay rights,” so therefore black people don’t?
I gave them a free pass? I didn’t know that.
Rattlesnake, again, the point is that you criticize and do not march in lockstep with Another_Jeremy, so you are a racist.
Bigot boy Another_Jeremy can have every single one of his posts edited to say the same thing: “Vote for Obama or you are a racist/sexist/homophobe”.
The totalitarian and fascist nature of this spoiled child gets more obvious with every post that he makes. If you do not do exactly what the brat says, you are a racist/sexist/homophobe. That’s all he knows, that’s all he does, and that’s all he and his fellow Obama supporters say.
Ok. So characterizing conservatives as racist is unfair. But everyone who supports affirmative action is racist. And sexist. Got it. Are you operating under the delusion that affirmative action just means that women and minorities show up for a job interview and get a free job? Can you please tell me how the issues of institutionalized racism and sexism in our society can be addressed? We should leave it to the free market? Like we did for 100 years after the Civil War?
Obama has a political button making fun of the ignorance conservatives and that’s the same as the conservative candidate pandering to the very idiots who believe this? Do you mean to imply that Romney is making fun of the ignorance within his own party or that he is simply unaware of it?
The point is not that there are no black people who oppose gay rights. The point is the majority of opponents to them are white. And yet no one is calling on the collective education or calling out of white people as hypocritical. You cannot criticize the views of a white homophobe and then criticize the race of a black homophobe. Get it? Anyone professing outrage over black liberals holding gay people down is an idiot. Period. If you want any credibility when demonizing black voters about their gay rights record then just make sure you scream about 1000X as loud about the white voters and legislators who do the overwhelming majority of screaming about how awful gays are and writing laws that give them second class citizenship.
And I also never said all conservatives are racist. Just that they pander to white racists. Which they do. Lee Atwater even admitted as much.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/08/27/773455/-How-Shall-You-Die-Like-Ted-Kennedy-Or-Lee-Atwater
And Dallas, love, I’m not white. Which shouldn’t matter since you don’t see race anyway.
No. Anything that judges people based on their race is, by definition, racist. Anything that judges people based on gender where it isn’t relevant is sexist.
Are the current policies actually eliminating racism? Apparently not. What is needed is a colour-blind society, and that is not what things like affirmative action create.
That ended 47 years ago. Do you really think there hasn’t been any change in attitudes regarding race since then?
I’m done saying anything about this stupid birther issue. I don’t think Mitt Romney should have said what he did (it was probably just a gaffe, like Biden’s “chains” remark). But if you think it was some sort of dog whistle to the racists, you’re mistaken.
I did neither. What is worth criticizing (in addition to homophobia) is the hypocrisy of the left criticizing conservative “homophobes” (including many Black and Hispanic people) but not “homophobes” who vote Democrat.
Agreed. Assuming that “affirmative action” means something more than outreach/advertising to particular communities, I endorse that remark.
A racist is: Anybody, repeat anybody, who wants to shove people into racial categories and see that they’re treated differently in some way, based on their alleged race.
By ending the institution of affirmative action. Since affirmative action, when carried out in the form of policies or laws which penalize some groups to the benefit of other groups, *is* the primary “institutionalized racism and sexism in our society” today.
Here’s an example of institutionalized racism, masquerading as affirmative action: http://www.npr.org/news/specials/michigan/
SCOTUS struck down part of it, but sadly upheld the rest. It was almost ten years ago, but it stuck in my mind because that was when I realized that the ACLU, of which I had been a donor and which took the wrong side in the issue (in favor of institutionalized racism), had become a racist organization.
The progress that has been made in the past 50 years is due to government intervention. You can’t say much progress has been made since the 60s and then say that the very programs (Civil Rights Act of 1964 & affirmative action) that enabled the progress are the root of the problem.
Unless they are 30 year old law students who want other people to pay for their contraception.
FIFY.
And once again, the screaming totalitarian fascist brat Another_Jeremy just repeats his mantra, “Vote for Obama or you are a racist/sexist/homophobe”.
This child utterly lacks intelligence or self-awareness. He is a racist bigot, a hatemonger who has nothing to add to the conversation and reveals how disgusting bigots like himself and Barack Obama scream “racist” to cover up their utter lack of morals, principles, character, and competence.
Also, I would point out that Barack Obama and the majority of the Obama Party are 9/11 Truthers.
That’s what is funny. Bigot racists like Barack Obama and Another_Jeremy scream that Republicans are delusional for believing Barack Obama’s author bio which stated for seventeen years that Barack Obama was born in Kenya…..but insist that George W. Bush was complicit in and approved the 9/11 terror attacks.
Again, it’s the insane hatred of the left. It’s why the hatemongering bigot Another_Jeremy supports and endorses his white liberal massas calling black conservatives n*iggers, slaves, c*nts, and wh*res, and calling for them to be lynched. It’s why Another_Jeremy supported and called for Bush to be assassinated and Palin to be raped. It’s why Another_Jeremy and the liberal trolls here supported and made excuses for the FRC gunman and for bigots like Dan Savage and Joe Jervis who wish for Republicans to be killed.
And again, it will only get worse. Does anyone here seriously believe that a bigot like Another_Jeremy who justified the FRC shootings won’t justify the murder of other conservatives or Republicans?
If Segregation has been eliminated, why do colleges have Black-Only lounges, Black-Only Dormitories, and Black-Only scholarship programs?
Another Jeremy is killing you guys.
Not all conservatives are racists, but most racists are conservatives, and conservative politicians actively court them as a voting bloc. Bottom line, end of story. It’s no coincidence that of all demographics and constituencies, blacks are the most lopsided in support of one political party. How else do you explain that? Are blacks too stupid to see through the media’s lies? (A racist assumption.) Are blacks voting for Democrats because they want entitlements and hand-outs? (Another racist assumption.) I mean, the country just elected its first black President, and the overwhelming conservative response was to, with no evidence other than his skin color and non-Anglo name, insist that he was a foreigner and therefore completely illegitimate. You guys can’t trade in that stuff and feign indignation when you’re called on it.
That’s easy, Levi; one need only point out what “tolerant” liberals like yourself do to black people who dare to stray off the liberal plantation.
When the choice is between publicly espousing the Obama Party line or having people verbally and physically beat the ever-living crap out of you and threaten your job, your family, and your life, the fact that people do the latter in much higher concentration is easily explainable. Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, and Mao had extremely high approval ratings from their populace for the same reason.
Furthermore, Levi, for you and your bigot friend Another_Jeremy to sit there and call other people racists when you are calling black Republicans and conservatives like Mia Love, Condi Rice, Artur Davis, Allen West, JC Watts, Clarence Thomas, Michael Steele, and others c*nts, wh*res, traitors, Uncle Toms, self-loathing, self-hating, oreos, and worse is beyond parody and well into complete and total delusion.
You are a slave owner, Levi, just like your Obama Party forbears. And like them, you cloak your utter and contemptible racism behind an argument that black people are too inferior, stupid, and helpless to survive without the help of kindly white people like yourself, and that when you abuse them, it’s just to show them the wrongness of their ways and get them out of their “bad” instinct to think for themselves instead of accepting the dictates of their kindly white massas.
Actually, Obama himself said in his author bio that he was born in Kenya.
If you’d like to say that Obama deliberately lied about his birthplace, go ahead.
If you’d like to say that Obama inexplicably never read his own author’s biography for sixteen years, go ahead.
But of course, you’re not going to do that, because it would be responding to the facts; instead you’re just going to scream “racist”.
Contrast that with the fact that an overwhelming number of Obama supporters are 9/11 Truthers.
That’s what is funny. Bigot racists like Barack Obama and Another_Jeremy scream that Republicans are delusional for believing Barack Obama’s author bio which stated for seventeen years that Barack Obama was born in Kenya…..but insist that George W. Bush was complicit in and approved the 9/11 terror attacks.
Again, it’s the insane hatred of the left. It’s why the hatemongering bigots Another_Jeremy and Levi support and endorse white liberal massas calling black conservatives n*iggers, slaves, c*nts, and wh*res, and calling for them to be lynched. It’s why Another_Jeremy and Levi supported and called for Bush to be assassinated and Palin to be raped. It’s why Another_Jeremy, Levi, and the liberal trolls here supported and made excuses for the FRC gunman and for bigots like Dan Savage and Joe Jervis who wish for Republicans to be killed.
Levi, that’s so cute! Left-liberals are racists, and Another_Jeremy is making a fool of himself, and you don’t like that to be seen… so you declare the opposite! 🙂
Again – all the minorities are voting for the liberals. I guess this is supposed to be an inconsequential point when talking about which party is more racist than the other? How convenient for you!
Yup.
Mainly because, Levi, you and your fellow liberals call for the death of minorities who disobey liberals and don’t vote for them.
Given the choice of voting for Obama or being killed, what’s the correct choice?
I have provided evidence, Levi, that you and your fellow Barack Obama supporters are threatening the well-being, livelihood, families, and even lives of minority members who don’t vote for Obama.
Given the choice of voting for Obama or having your home, your business, your family, and even your life smeared, attacked, vandalized, destroyed, and even killed, what’s the correct choice?
The FACT, the clear, referenced, obvious FACT that you and your fellow Obama supporters are calling minority members who don’t vote for Obama c*nts, wh*res, traitors, Uncle Toms, self-loathing, self-hating, oreos, n*iggers, and slaves, plus calling for them, their families, and their businesses to be vandalized, destroyed, or killed, is all that needs to be shown to demonstrate how laughably hypocritical and desperate your claims are, Levi.
And, more entertainingly, how the only way you can get people to support you is to viciously beat and murder anyone who doesn’t.
Detroit has had uncontested liberal-left rule for half a century. How’s that working out for its overwhelmingly African-American population?
I think this is a fundamental difference between liberalism and conservatism. Liberals say, “The minorities are on our side, which means we’re the cool kids.” Conservatives say, “Our policies actually work, which is more important that being cool.”
Just calling it as I see it.
The stupidity of that argument is mind-boggling; sadly, just what one can expect from Levi.
For starters: “all the minorities”? Really? How racist is that kind of talk, right there? Levi looks out for “the minorities”, and knows just how “the minorities” should vote, which they do with 100% perfection, except of course for a very very few who are obviously wicked and/or stupid for not falling in line. That’s Levi’s mentality, it seems. Is it just me, or are we looking an individual right now this minute, who… judges people by their race?
Liberal racism, folks: it’s real. As with the racists at MSNBC who, this past week, very carefully and intentionally denied coverage to the non-white speakers at one of the major parties’ conventions.
Good question.
Obviously a progressive like you thinks so, but it would take a relatively objective person to accurately determine who is the one who is being “killed.” From my perspective, that person is Another_Jeremy. In fact, he is the easiest troll since George in terms of arguing with (with the exception of Kevin, who seems to pop up intermittently and never argues back anyway).
There are not enough (malicious) racists to form a voting bloc that is worth “courting.” And I assume most of the malicious racists have an ideology that resembles “national socialism,” which is not a rightist ideology.
Any group of people is susceptible to a tribe mentality, particularly when politicians actively breed one and when the education many black people receive (from the inner city public schools which are so poorly run, and that black families have no control over because of the teachers’ unions).
There is plenty of evidence that might raise suspicion (far more than there is that suggests Bush was complicit in 9/11). I would say the evidence more strongly indicates that he was born in Hawaii, but he still seems to be oddly secretive about his records (which, if I understand the situation correctly, is what initially prompted speculation about his birthplace, in addition to the exotic persona he himself crafted in his autobiographies).
I should add pundits and activists (who actively breed such a mentality).
Let me just stick my head in from vacation that the racist Levi who’s on record saying that “Arabians” are unable to comprehend democracy, calling anyone racist is the height of absurdity.
Indeed, Levi’s also on record being in favour of killing people he finds “inconvenient” to him having fun.
Now hush Levi, adults are talking
Also, Democrats think blacks are too lazy and stupid to get Voter ID’s, but Republicans are racist?
Also, in 2008 the white supremacists went for Obama, but Republicans are racist?
Good call I Love Capitalism. Since some white supremacists voted for Obama it means that the Republicans are not racist. Never mind that all minority groups voted overwhelmingly for Obama.
The comments on this website are truly frightening at times.
And Rattlesnake, when did the “tribe mentality” come into being? Was it when blacks voted for Republicans for almost a century after the Civil War? Or was it when they began voting solidly democratic after Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil RIghts Act of 1964? Hmmm. This doesn’t really go well with the racist assumption that blacks vote along party lines due to brainwashing.
So minority groups voted based solely on skin color.
So Obama attracted the vote of all groups obsessed with and voting primarily based on skin color and minority status of the candidate.
Obama attracted the racists, then.
When did you and your fellow Obama liberals start calling minority members who don’t vote for Obama or the Obama Party c*nts, wh*res, traitors, Uncle Toms, self-loathing, self-hating, oreos, n*iggers, and slaves, plus calling for them, their families, and their businesses to be vandalized, destroyed, or killed, as I already documented you’re doing?
If there’s no “tribe mentality”, Another_Jeremy, why do you and your fellow Obama supporters call black people who vote against Obama traitors to their race or other derogatory names like “oreo”?
Okay, play stupid games if you want. You and I both know that minorities break for Democrats every election year, and blacks especially so. I think it’s reasonable to conclude that such a split occurs in large part because blacks consider the Republican Party to be racist. What’s your explanation? I don’t suppose you’ll even try, and will continue just insisting that somehow I’m the racist. Whatever.
Look, I wouldn’t want to be in a position where I had to explain away that kind of disparity, either. That’s why, as a rule, I generally don’t align with political movements that exploit racism as a means of getting out the vote.
And the stupid racist “arguments” continue. Because minorities overwhelmingly voted for Obama (as they have for Democratic candidates for the past 45-50 years) they are only voting for him because of his skin color, huh? So I guess when 98% of the black populace voted for LBJ in 1964 it was because he was white?
Your basic assumptions are that black people do not vote the issues and that they are too stupid to realize they are being destroyed by “government programs” (see welfare that only 1.2% of black adults receive cash from) you have yet to fully identity. These are blatantly racist ideas that fly into the headwinds of reality. You idiots keep screaming that democrats ignore minority conservatives. Well, conservatives conveniently ignore the vast majority of minority politicians and voters who are Democrats. When they do pay attention to them, it’s to paint them as ignorant or collectively misinformed/brainwashed. They’re not brainwashed. They just don’t like contemporary conservative ideology. Your responses to this disparity have been to say that Democrats are racist for tricking the apparently childlike negroes into believing they’re helping them when they’re not. Not a very compelling argument for your lack of racism or that of the Republican party.
So let me see if I understand jeremy’s logic…
90% of blacks vote for the black guy, not racist.
Any percentage of whites vote for the white guy, racist.
African Americans for Obama, not racist. Caucasians for Romney, racist.
Livewire
Your moronic response had nothing to do with my posts on this thread.
Where has anyone said that because someone votes for a candidate who happens to be white that they must be racist? The point is that a very small percentage of minorities are voting for Republicans. Period. And the question that no one has yet to answer (without implicitly implying that black people are collectively stupid and do not vote the issues) is why is that the case and why has that been the case for the past 50 years?
Awwwwww isn’t it cute…
Thank you for clarifying. “Majority of blacks voting for a party, not racist.” “Majority of whites not voting for the party, racist.”
Thank you for proving my point. You’re so cute in your bigotry. Maybe you should go back to lying about what Paul Ryan said.
I find it more than entertaining that, despite having clear and obvious documentation, neither Another_Jeremy or Levi can deal with the fact that Obama liberals call minority members who don’t vote for Obama or the Obama Party c*nts, wh*res, traitors, Uncle Toms, self-loathing, self-hating, oreos, n*iggers, and slaves, plus call for them, their families, and their businesses to be vandalized, destroyed, or killed.
You have to wonder why, if minorities so overwhelmingly support Obama, Another_Jeremy and Levi have to use death threats to keep them voting “correctly.
Still no response. I guess if you make stupid accusations and saw “Awww” it makes your arguments stronger. What a shame.
Jeremy proves clearly that “You can lead a liberal to facts, but you can’t make him think.”
“Minority groups overwhlemingly vote for Democrats. That’s not racist.”
“Whites vote for Republicans, that’s because they’re racist.”
Sorry I don’t have crayons and can’t draw pretty pictures, but those are your arguments.
Why, you did, Another_Jeremy.
You and your disgusting Obama have stated over and over again that the only reason any white person wouldn’t vote for Obama is racism.
You and your disgusting Obama have stated over and over again that the only reason any non-white person wouldn’t vote for Obama is that they are a self-loathing race traitor, “house n**ger”, and all the other pleasant names you call them.
Hence the point. And it is why Livewire has so effectively cornered you by pointing out how you DEMAND that people vote based on skin color or be called racists.
Even the biased politifact destroys your lies Kevin.
Also look how Ohio, North Carolina, Wisconsin Texas and AZ are doing. What do all those states have in common?
Won’t stop Obama from trying to take credit for Kaisich’s efforts to counter his downturn in Ohio though.