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If Romney did better among Hispanics in Texas. . .

. . . , as this report suggests, than he did nationally, we need figure out why that is so and figure out a means to transfer that success to other states.

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  1. It also seems to depend on where in Texas the Hispanics in question are. The heavily Hispanic counties in Southern Texas generally voted for Obama by a very wide margin, often giving him over 70% of the vote.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 13, 2012 @ 7:30 pm - November 13, 2012

  2. Dems are convinced that in the next few elections, Texas will go to them. And unless conservatives alter their message they might be right.

    Comment by mike — November 13, 2012 @ 8:09 pm - November 13, 2012

  3. What Rattlesnake said… I’d also point out that some Hispanic families go back many generations – back to when Texas was Mexican territory and, later, a sovereign republic. I suspect that these families’ voting patterns differ from that of recent immigrants that tend to vote statist.

    Keep in mind that, at this point, the Hispanic portion of the (legal) electorate is fairly small and that a ten percent shift would work out to something less than two percent.

    Romney lost the working white vote. Since we’re down to racial pandering, someone will eventually see the need to pander to whites. Ethnic politics – what wonders diversity brings.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — November 13, 2012 @ 8:12 pm - November 13, 2012

  4. mike – I suspect that’s true. Texas demographics are browning rapidly (see Dallas public schools). Since new immigrants vote left and since we no longer expect assimilation, Texas (and the rest of us) will be trending rapidly to a more Latin culture – warts and all.

    I don’t understand why people immigrate to the US to escape poverty, crime, corruption, and all the rest and then bring the very culture they’re leaving with them.

    The poop will hit the fan if and when lower-income/lower-skill people native to the US looking for work and suffering from declining real wages and difficulty finding work figure out that the elites are crushing the with imported replacements.

    Our elites are playing a dangerous game with real, living victims.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — November 13, 2012 @ 8:23 pm - November 13, 2012

  5. And unless conservatives alter their message they might be right.

    Yes. They need to effectively communicate a Tea Party-inspired conservative message and show that it is for everyone regardless of race.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 13, 2012 @ 9:00 pm - November 13, 2012

  6. It’s always Republicans who have to change.

    First, embrace tax increases.
    Then, embrace amnesty.
    Then, embrace same sex marriage.
    Then, embrace extreme environmentalism.
    Then, embrace welfare spending (because minorities will hate you if you cut off their benefits)

    And… voila… Republicans are exactly the same as Democrats.

    And all America will be a successful, one-party state like California, Massachusetts, or Illinois.

    Comment by V the K — November 13, 2012 @ 9:03 pm - November 13, 2012

  7. If the Republican message has to change to “We will give just as much free sh-t from the Government as the Democrats,” we’ve already lost the country.

    And the message that won this election was, in fact, “Free Sh-t from the Government.”

    Comment by V the K — November 13, 2012 @ 9:04 pm - November 13, 2012

  8. Indeed, V the K.

    The message that concern trolls like mike are pushing is very simple:

    1) Say it’s OK to break the law because of your skin color

    2) Say it’s OK for you to collect welfare paid for by other peoples’ taxes

    3) Say you don’t need to have a skill or even the intention to work; you deserve to have your housing, food, and education paid for because you broke the law and are of the correct skin color

    As long as you vote for us.

    That’s really where the Obama Party is at at this point, and it’s what voters for Obama believe and espouse.

    I can only conclude that the reason is that Obama Party voters are moochers and looters who aren’t actually paying for, or even intend to pay for, any of the promises they’re making.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 13, 2012 @ 9:13 pm - November 13, 2012

  9. VDH nails it.

    Key quote:

    Among most Mexican-Americans that I know there may have been just as much outrage at Romney for advocating legal immigration based on skills and education rather than family ties, as there was furor for his talk of “self-deportation.” Is it not hurtful (and seen as racist) to prefer that someone immigrate from Slovakia with an engineering degree and some capital rather than from Oaxaca with no money and without a high-school diploma? Under the present system, a Mexican national who is an unskilled worker can massage citizenship far more easily by virtue of ethnic clout and kindred ties to a Mexican-American than can a South Korean dentist or Greek doctor or Hungarian capitalist. Why would Mexican-Americans not favor such a system, and why would they not resent Republicans who advocated legal immigration based on higher education and specialized skills?

    The simple fact is this: Latinos/Hispanics are getting substantial benefits from their racial status thanks to open and obvious government discrimination in their favor, all of which the Obama Party endorses.

    Why on earth would they give that up for a situation where they are judged by performance and character, rather than ethnicity?

    The fact is that concern trolls like mike want Republicans to become racists like Obama voters are. Concern-troll mike doesn’t WANT people judged by character; he wants special treatment based on minority status.

    Gays and lesbians naturally ally with the Obama Party because the gay and lesbian community supports bias and discrimination and wants special treatment based on minority status. Gays and lesbians adamantly OPPOSE “equal rights”; what they want are hiring quotas, tax giveaways, and freebies at other peoples’ expense, all out of “revenge” for how badly they’ve supposedly been treated.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 13, 2012 @ 9:26 pm - November 13, 2012

  10. Also, it’s rude to call them leeches and moochers just because they extract their livelihoods from the labors of other people and insist on having someone else pay for their health care, contraception, food stamps, housing, education…

    Comment by V the K — November 13, 2012 @ 9:27 pm - November 13, 2012

  11. All of my Porgressive acquaintances voted to save women and gays from being sent back 60 years. Maybe other Progressives voted for free stuff, but the message I usually heard was that Romney was going to end women’s rights, start slavery back up, and oppress gay people…oh yeah, and drove with his dog in a carrier on the roof of his car.

    Comment by Az Mo in NYC — November 13, 2012 @ 9:51 pm - November 13, 2012

  12. Yeah, Az Mo, such a positive message those Democrats have.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — November 13, 2012 @ 9:55 pm - November 13, 2012

  13. All of my Porgressive acquaintances voted to save women and gays from being sent back 60 years.

    Comment by Az Mo in NYC — November 13, 2012 @ 9:51 pm – November 13, 2012

    And ironically, they’ve sent women, gays, and everyone else back 80 years instead……to the Great Depression.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 13, 2012 @ 10:39 pm - November 13, 2012

  14. V-
    No conservatives don’t need embrace any of those planks to a platform. Conservatives need to come up with practical methods to solve those issues / programs. For example if conservatives would start talking about how the rise in tuition costs is directly related to student loan programs and then come up with ways to cut those tuition costs. Young parents and minorities might listen.

    Instead of just saying “slash spending” “lower taxes” “traditional values” conservatives need to instead offer serious solutions with specifics that dems can’t demonize. Romney did not offer too much specifics and thus left himself wide open to allowing the dems define him. Ryan had a very specific plan but vouchers are so unpopular and really unworkable from the get-go so it left him open to Biden destroying Ryan in the debate.

    Comment by mike — November 13, 2012 @ 11:46 pm - November 13, 2012

  15. Concern troll, if you ever start lecturing your own party about the need to cut spending, knock it off with the race-baiting and prosecute corruption in its own ranks, someone, somewhere might believe your advice to the party you will never ever vote for is coming from a place of sincerity.

    We all know that any Republican plan to control spending will be demagogued by your party; and you will parrot whatever the attack is.

    Comment by V the K — November 14, 2012 @ 12:12 am - November 14, 2012

  16. For example if conservatives would start talking about how the rise in tuition costs is directly related to student loan programs and then come up with ways to cut those tuition costs. Young parents and minorities might listen.

    Or, more likely, they would simply go for the Barack Obama Party’s “free sh*t, blame the rich” methods, just like they did this year.

    There is no reason to try to appeal to the stupid. And Obama voters simply are stupid. They are looters, liars, and moochers who can’t be bothered to think for themselves and are so stupid that they believe Obama’s lies that Romney was a murderer and wanted to ban tampons.

    Republicans need to be adults. The simple fact is that the moocher and liar mike, who voted for and fully endorses the lies told by the Obama Party, wants us to bail him and his fellow moochers and looters out.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2012 @ 12:37 am - November 14, 2012

  17. Hell, if Republicans announced a way to cure cancer next week, the media would be filled with horror stories about all the oncologists and cancer charities that would be put out of work because heartless Republicans don’t care.

    Comment by V the K — November 14, 2012 @ 5:27 am - November 14, 2012

  18. Since the Concern Troll thought Paul Ryan’s Medicare Reforms were outrageous, maybe I can outline a plan that would be acceptable to him and his Democrats.

    1. Triple the Medicare Tax
    2. Expand the Program to Cover all Illegal Immigrants.
    3. Create a contraceptive entitlement.

    Oh, BTW, if you don’t support my plan, you’re a bigot who hates immigrants and women.

    Comment by V the K — November 14, 2012 @ 6:07 am - November 14, 2012

  19. My guess is the difference in hispanic votes is due to social class.

    Obama had a lock on pretty much anyone in the poorest social classes-white, black or hispanic.

    I figure middle class-especially small business owning middle class-hispanics may be a little less likely to march in lock step to vote for Obama.

    Comment by Just Me — November 14, 2012 @ 8:38 am - November 14, 2012

  20. One thing I have to wonder…how much do our non-Latino candidates talk to Latino Republicans to get their input as to how to speak in a way that isn’t offputting? I don’t think Republicans should adopt any radical amnesty plan or engage in some other pander. Even so, can we at least question the way Republicans talk? Tone matters, and I think the way Republicans sometimes say things is likely to turn off potential voters, especially given how much push there is from left-wing groups to paint Republicans as racist. We have many good elected and non-elected Latino Republicans (Marco Rubio, Susana Martinez, Brian Sandoval, Rachel Campos-Duffy) who, I’m sure, have a lot of thoughts on how white Republicans can better speak to Latino audiences. Perhaps they are consulted a lot, but I’ve got to imagine they have a lot of thoughts about problems with the GOP’s messaging that don’t make it through to our nominees and others who speak for our party. And while I think we need to hold firm against wide-scale amnesty, I think it’s a big mistake when we sound reluctant to talk about any immigration reform. I’m all for us resisting pressure to give in to liberal policies, but I think introspection is a healthy thing. Whether it’s the Latino vote or the African-American vote or the youth vote or the unmarried woman vote, I don’t think we should be content to fatalistically accept that we’ll be a party that appeals to less than half the country. I don’t know about anyone else, but I hate losing. I’m confident that winning won’t require abandoning conservative principles, but we should not be complacent about our messaging problem with those who are young, irreligious, or non-white.

    Comment by chad — November 14, 2012 @ 10:26 am - November 14, 2012

  21. One thing I have to wonder…how much do our non-Latino candidates talk to Latino Republicans to get their input as to how to speak in a way that isn’t offputting? I don’t think Republicans should adopt any radical amnesty plan or engage in some other pander. Even so, can we at least question the way Republicans talk? Tone matters, and I think the way Republicans sometimes say things is likely to turn off potential voters, especially given how much push there is from left-wing groups to paint Republicans as racist. We have many good elected and non-elected Latino Republicans (Marco Rubio, Susana Martinez, Brian Sandoval, Rachel Campos-Duffy) who, I’m sure, have a lot of thoughts on how white Republicans can better speak to Latino audiences. Perhaps they are consulted a lot, but I’ve got to imagine they have a lot of thoughts about problems with the GOP’s messaging that don’t make it through to our nominees and others who speak for our party. And while I think we need to hold firm against wide-scale amnesty, I think it’s a big mistake when we sound reluctant to talk about any immigration reform. I’m all for us resisting pressure to give in to liberal policies, but I think introspection is a healthy thing. Whether it’s the Latino vote or the African-American vote or the youth vote or the unmarried woman vote, I don’t think we should be content to fatalistically accept that we’ll be a party that appeals to less than half the country. I don’t know about anyone else, but I hate losing. I’m confident that winning won’t require abandoning conservative principles, but we should not be complacent about our messaging problem with those who are young, irreligious, or non-white.

    The two biggest problems in Republican messaging is that its dismissive and hypocritical. You can’t go around saying that all the country’s problems come from poor people’s unwillingness to work and their desire to get free stuff. People find it insulting and they understand it for the status-quo serving bullshit that it is. You can’t nominate a guy as wealthy as Romney and let him walk around talking about how easy the poor people have it in this country. You can’t keep telling people that receive welfare assistance that their ultimate goal in this life is to receive welfare assistance. That’s arguably the main theme of conservatism at the moment, and how anyone could be surprised that it doesn’t go over well is beyond me.

    The hypocrisy creates the second problem in the conservative message. Young people just aren’t forgiving of hypocrites, and conservatives shouldn’t expect any support from that group as long as they portray themselves as the party of individual liberty while opposing gay marriage and abortion/contraception. Gay culture and sex may not be popular with the aging Republican baby boomers, but young people are into it and they don’t to be prevented from participating by their grandparents. We’re finally at the point where the social issues appear to be costing Republicans more than they’re gaining.

    Comment by Levi — November 14, 2012 @ 11:50 am - November 14, 2012

  22. You can’t go around saying that all the country’s problems come from poor people’s unwillingness to work and their desire to get free stuff. People find it insulting and they understand it for the status-quo serving bullshit that it is.

    Yup.

    Moochers, looters, and thieves don’t like being called that, but in fact that is what they are.

    The whole point of the Obama Party is free sh*t for no work. Obama screams and cries that those who work should be taxed to pay the bills of those who won’t.

    That is the reality. If you demand the government pay your bills by taking from other people, you are a moocher, looter, and thief.

    What one has to remember is that the insane and unhinged Levi is a fascist who wants to use government power to force everyone else to pay his bills. Levi and the Obama Party do not want to work; they want to live at everyone else’s expense. Therefore, all their rants consist of are desperate and elaborate lies and tricks to rationalize why everyone else should work and they should be exempted.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2012 @ 12:10 pm - November 14, 2012

  23. Conservatives need to come up with practical methods to solve those issues / programs.

    Conservatives don’t need to come up with anything. Conservatives need to stand back and let liberalism and Progressivism and socialism work its vast and wonderous cures on what ails us.

    While the trolls come here to spew their doxology and gloat is not because they care a whit about conservatism or Republicans. They are whores for wealth transfer and they love their work.

    I am not worried about the future of the Republican party. It can rot down the crapper for all I care. I am not worried about the future of conservative principle. In every case where socialism has been tried, it has bankrupted the society monetarily and made the people secularly banal. That is to say the people become bland, cliched, platitudinous, cornfed, insipid, unimaginative and evolve into sheeple.

    So, what does the endangered specie, the conservative, do? Avoid taxes, avoid the sheeple, keep his principles and wait. The grasshoppers always come knocking sooner or later. And from within, the voice asks: “Friend or Foe?”

    Ronald Reagan: “Socialism only works in two places: Heaven, where they don’t need it, and Hell, where they already have it”

    So, if the guy knocking at the door is a socialist, send him away or dispatch him if he resists. If he be a conservative, welcome him as a working partner.

    “He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious.” Sun Tzu.

    Thanks, concern trolls, but no thanks. You have the bit in your mouths, now run like the wind. Don’t let us call you little sh*ts, stand up and show us what gigantic sh*ts you really are.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 14, 2012 @ 12:30 pm - November 14, 2012

  24. I will grant that Republicans are going to have to rethink their position on SSM since, unlike economic issues where people change their minds as they get older, become homeowners, etc., I don’t think younger people are going to change their minds on SSM. As for abortion and contraception, the campaign centered much more on contraception than abortion, except for Akin and Mourdock’s idiotic comments. But young people aren’t particularly enthused about abortion rights, in contrast to GLBT rights. As for contraception, Romney and Republicans were not trying to prevent anyone from getting contraception. The only thing Republicans wanted to do was protect Catholic organizations from being forced to cover contraception against their consciences, i.e., respect their First Amendment rights. We do not have a problem with access to contraception, and if someone is concerned about the costs of contraception, they can choose not to work for a Catholic organization. In any case, it was a complete lie that Romney was going to keep anyone from contraception. Even if Santorum were president, we’d still not have a contraception access problem. (The problem we do have is a job access problem, but I digress.) Also, Obama accused Romney taking mammograms away from women via defunding Planned Parenthood, but PP doesn’t even provide mammograms.

    As for young people not being forgiving of hypocrites, perhaps we should ask those detained indefinitely at Gitmo for their opinion on that.

    Comment by chad — November 14, 2012 @ 12:57 pm - November 14, 2012

  25. I will grant that Republicans are going to have to rethink their position on SSM since, unlike economic issues where people change their minds as they get older, become homeowners, etc., I don’t think younger people are going to change their minds on SSM.

    There shouldn’t be anything to rethink. Opposing gay marriage used to be a little show that the Republicans could put on to drive turnout, but that’s over now. Republicans are suicidal to contemplate dragging it out any further.

    As for abortion and contraception, the campaign centered much more on contraception than abortion, except for Akin and Mourdock’s idiotic comments. But young people aren’t particularly enthused about abortion rights, in contrast to GLBT rights

    Well, there was the campaign, and then there was reality. In reality, Republicans introduced hundreds of bills around the country to restrict abortion access in the past two years. Republicans didn’t make it a centerpiece of the national campaign, but that doesn’t mean that all this activity went unnoticed.

    As for contraception, Romney and Republicans were not trying to prevent anyone from getting contraception. The only thing Republicans wanted to do was protect Catholic organizations from being forced to cover contraception against their consciences, i.e., respect their First Amendment rights. We do not have a problem with access to contraception, and if someone is concerned about the costs of contraception, they can choose not to work for a Catholic organization.

    The political and strategic motivations behind Vatican dogma (Catholic conscience, as you call it) fortunately do not mean that people can be exempted from laws in this country. Of course, in the grand tradition of religion, we’re supposed to believe that the Catholics are being forced and persecuted and are in need of protection, when it’s actually Catholics who are inserting themselves into women’s private lives and telling them what to do. Oh right, they can pay for it on their own or they can quit if they don’t like it. They can replace you with a man who won’t complain, what a generous compromise on their part!

    Conservatives claim to have a problem with government bureaucrats getting in between patients and doctors to approve or deny treatments, but this is apparently not a concern when your employer does it, for religious reasons, and only for a particular gender. Conservatives have completely misharacterized government-run healthcare, but it is true that medical decisions are best left to patients and their doctors. There are dozens of different forms of contraception and there are hundreds of reasons why women might take them that don’t involve sexual intercourse at all. What right does an employer have to force a one-size-fits-all approach into that situation?

    This leads to questions of enforcability. Suppose that Catholics could be reasonable and granted an exemption to women who used contraception for pain, or offered to cover contraception for lesbians. Well then, women could just claim to be lesbians in pain, couldn’t they?

    It’s also important to remember that contraception is almost completely an issue that affects women, and that the Catholic Church’s hierarchy is almost completely dominated by men. Women can’t get ordained in the Catholic Church, so you can bet they have had no significant input on the church’s policy on this issue. Inexplicably, the Catholic Church still gets a pass for not abandoning this ancient, patriarchal power structure, whereas the complete absence of women in any other organization’s leadership would mark them as misogynistic and retrograde. Catholic leaders are definitely putting out a vibe that women are inferior and they need men to make decisions about their lady parts for them.

    To recap, you have an organization run exclusively by men (not a good sign), requesting to be exempted from a law (not how government works), on an issue that applies exclusively to women (Discrimination Alert!), because of their beliefs (which don’t make sense and are irrelevant in every way.) I know that religious people need to flex the ol’ persecution complex now and again, but this is plainly an example of authoritarianism on their part, not the government’s.

    In any case, it was a complete lie that Romney was going to keep anyone from contraception. Even if Santorum were president, we’d still not have a contraception access problem. (The problem we do have is a job access problem, but I digress.) Also, Obama accused Romney taking mammograms away from women via defunding Planned Parenthood, but PP doesn’t even provide mammograms.

    I’m glad you brought up Romney’s promise to defund Planned Parenthood, because it proves that it wasn’t a lie to say that Romney wanted to limit contraceptive access. In case you weren’t aware, Planned Parenthood provides contraception and a variety of other women’s health services, so vowing to defund the organization is effectively the same as saying you’re going to make it harder for millions of women to get contraceptives. You guys keep complaining about your image and how you’ve been characterized by the media and the Democrats, but you have to realize that your actions and policy proposals are more important than what you say.

    And people love Planned Parenthood by the way and are hardcore about supporting it. You also might like to know that their PAC’s had one of the best returns on investment (winning candidates supported by the PAC) of any other organization. Republicans picked a fight with a sleeping giant, and they lost single women by 40%.

    As for young people not being forgiving of hypocrites, perhaps we should ask those detained indefinitely at Gitmo for their opinion on that.

    What can I say but Obama has failed on this front and has indeed been a hypocrite. He deserves a little slack since it wasn’t his policy to begin with and the previous administration created this boondoggle that has no obvious way out, but it will be a stain on his record (and America’s) if there isn’t a better resolution at the end of his term.

    Regardless, young people are more likely to avoid hypocrisy that doesn’t affect them directly. However, people can directly trace the hypocrisy of conservatives on abortion and gay marriage to their own lives, so that’s more likely to get their attention.

    Comment by Levi — November 14, 2012 @ 2:43 pm - November 14, 2012

  26. Levi is all hot to force Kosher butchers and Halal butchers to cut the religious crap and be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age.

    If the Catholic church owned and operated hospitals must provide birth control for their employees and do abortion on demand for their walk-in customers, then by golly, the Kosher deli better have have pork and dairy for my tastebud needs and they also need to can the rabbi rules about slaughter and the Halal rules as well.

    Haram is just a bunch of religious Man in the Sky horsesh*t and the separation of church and state rules means that the customer is always right and the state is never wrong and secular humanism must prevail in all cases, bar none.

    That is what Levi says.

    Levi says that a non-Jewboy employee at a Kosher deli can use whatever pot or pan he wishes and pay no attention whatsoever to the Kosher crapola.

    That is what Levi says.

    Levi says that blood sausage and blood products are not Haram and any Islamic fool that says different needs a good Dutch rub from Uncle Sam and a taste of the separation of church and state whip and have his voodoo religion nose rubbed in his own primitive crap.

    That is what Levi says.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 14, 2012 @ 3:14 pm - November 14, 2012

  27. Conservatives claim to have a problem with government bureaucrats getting in between patients and doctors to approve or deny treatments, but this is apparently not a concern when your employer does it, for religious reasons, and only for a particular gender.

    Comment by Levi — November 14, 2012 @ 2:43 pm – November 14, 2012

    Yup.

    Because you can’t change governments, but you can change employers. People do it all the time because another employer offers them what they think is a better job, better salary, better commute, better working conditions, etc.

    That’s known to anyone who has a job and marketable skills. You, being a liberal, know nothing about work and have no intention of learning; you just want a welfare check, a free phone, and unlimited abortions for your “wife” because it’s too much trouble for you to wear a condom.

    I’m glad you brought up Romney’s promise to defund Planned Parenthood, because it proves that it wasn’t a lie to say that Romney wanted to limit contraceptive access. In case you weren’t aware, Planned Parenthood provides contraception and a variety of other women’s health services, so vowing to defund the organization is effectively the same as saying you’re going to make it harder for millions of women to get contraceptives.

    Sorry, but Planned Parenthood does not have a monopoly on condoms or birth control pills; there are plenty of places where women can get both, and far more cheaply than at Planned Parenthood.

    What they DO have is a monopoly on abortion. So what you’re screaming and throwing temper tantrums about is the fact that conservatives are cutting off taxpayer funding to abortion clinics and insisting that you and your “wife” pay for your own abortions.

    Planned Parenthood does nothing but abortions, Levi. They are an abortion factory that uses taxpayer dollars to fund abortions. And the reason you are so obsessed with them is that a portion of every dollar spent in them is provided to the Obama Party as a kickback. That’s the reason you won’t talk about places like Wal-Mart or other areas that sell inexpensive condoms and birth control pills; you want the money going to Planned Parenthood and Planned Parenthood only.

    Your SOLE concern in this case is getting free abortions for yourself at taxpayer expense and laundering taxpayer dollars to the Obama Party. As you’ve already stated, you won’t use condoms and you won’t be responsible because both are too inconvenient for you; all you want are abortions. Furthermore, your bragging about how Planned Parenthood’s PAC, which is funded with taxpayer dollars, only proves that you support and endorse using taxpayer dollars to purchase elections for abortionists.

    If you saw a Christian or religious-oriented PAC receiving taxpayer dollars and lobbying/pushing for candidates, you would sh*t yourself. But you are stupid enough to brag about your abortionist PAC using taxpayer dollars to do both. You are a blatant and filthy hypocrite.

    Finally:

    What can I say but Obama has failed on this front and has indeed been a hypocrite. He deserves a little slack since it wasn’t his policy to begin with and the previous administration created this boondoggle that has no obvious way out

    So you’re blaming Bush.

    That really shows your duplicity and hate, Levi. You scream and cry and excuse Obama for everything. You whine and rant and insist that nothing is Obama’s fault because Bush made him do it.

    This is what proves that you are insane and unhinged. What a pathetic little boy you are, screaming and crying and kicking your feet that your Messiah Obama can’t do anything because of that evil Bush.

    Once again, Levi, facts humiliate you and show how you are a fanatic who is mentally, morally, and emotionally incapable of acting rationally.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2012 @ 3:49 pm - November 14, 2012

  28. Levi is all hot to force Kosher butchers and Halal butchers to cut the religious crap and be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age.

    If the Catholic church owned and operated hospitals must provide birth control for their employees and do abortion on demand for their walk-in customers, then by golly, the Kosher deli better have have pork and dairy for my tastebud needs and they also need to can the rabbi rules about slaughter and the Halal rules as well.

    Surprise, surprise. You don’t know the difference between a shop owner selling products and an employer dictating to their employees what kind of medical treatment they’re permitted to receive.

    Just try to remember that there’s nothing special about your religion. If I wanted to start my own business and say that, oh, I don’t know, cancer was a gift from God, I’d be entitled to the same exemption that you’re asking for, since it would be against my conscience to help someone reject the gift of God’s cancer. Do you understand that my hypothetical, belief-based justification is just as valid and logical as the Catholic’s?

    Comment by Levi — November 14, 2012 @ 4:59 pm - November 14, 2012

  29. And Levi doesn’t understand how in a free society yes he could do that. How he’d find employees would be his problem, but he doesn’t understand that.

    Now hush Levi, the adults are talking.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 14, 2012 @ 5:19 pm - November 14, 2012

  30. If becoming socially liberal is a path to success for Republicans, why did Scott Brown lose?

    Comment by V the K — November 14, 2012 @ 5:22 pm - November 14, 2012

  31. Surprise, surprise. You don’t know the difference between a shop owner selling products and an employer dictating to their employees what kind of medical treatment they’re permitted to receive.

    That’s because there is none.

    If a shop doesn’t sell what you want, you can go to another shop.

    If an employer doesn’t offer the benefits package you want, you can work for another employer.

    The reason you have a problem comprehending this is because you are attempting to rationalize your insane hatred of people with religious beliefs and trying to lipstick up the pig that is your demand for outright government discrimination against and punishment of people with religious beliefs that you don’t like.

    You’re a fascist who wants religions banned by government edict, Levi. Except for Islam, where you and your Barack Obama Party want people thrown in prison for daring to criticize it. Everyone here knows that, and everyone here sees through your rationalizations.

    Just try to remember that there’s nothing special about your religion. If I wanted to start my own business and say that, oh, I don’t know, cancer was a gift from God, I’d be entitled to the same exemption that you’re asking for, since it would be against my conscience to help someone reject the gift of God’s cancer. Do you understand that my hypothetical, belief-based justification is just as valid and logical as the Catholic’s?

    Comment by Levi — November 14, 2012 @ 4:59 pm – November 14, 2012

    Absolutely. And we don’t care. Pay for what you want to pay for, and don’t pay for the rest.

    Your problem, you unhinged and insane little cultist, is that you don’t understand the basic concept of freedom, which is that other people are free to do things with which you disagree. You believe that everyone else is like you are, which is a vicious and malicious intolerant bigot who thinks government should punish and silence anyone who holds religious beliefs with which you disagree — again, except for Islam, because Islamists kill those who disagree with them and you are too frightened of that to actually enforce the laws.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2012 @ 5:52 pm - November 14, 2012

  32. Ever see that Hardcore Pawn show where the bitch walks in and demands the pawn shop buys her crap at her demanded price? That is Levi in drag.

    He walks into a Kosher deli and friggin’ demands that he gets a Cuban with pork and bacon and mayonnaise and cream gravy and “F you, you Joo-boy” if he is refused his American right to be served.

    Our boy Levi is a true American jewel.

    Then our Levi takes a scholarship at Georgetown and demands Catholic blessed and supplied condoms so he can hump his sweetie in the sanctuary. What a secular humanist guy our little Levi is. Just a prince of tolerance and diversity.

    Is it wrong if I wish leprosy, scabies and herpes simplex #2 on him?

    Comment by heliotrope — November 14, 2012 @ 9:42 pm - November 14, 2012

  33. Is it wrong if I wish leprosy, scabies and herpes simplex #2 on him?

    Comment by heliotrope — November 14, 2012 @ 9:42 pm – November 14, 2012

    Given his refusal to use condoms, the odds are fairly good that he’s operating with a minimum of two out of three.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2012 @ 9:59 pm - November 14, 2012

  34. And that to an extent is the beauty of it, heliotrope; you don’t HAVE to wish any of those things on him, because his own behavior is taking care of it nicely.

    God does make life easy for Christians in that sense; all He and we need do is sit back and mind our own manners, and then watch Levi and his ilk blunder into disaster, plague, and torrent because, after all, they knew better and didn’t need our help.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2012 @ 10:03 pm - November 14, 2012

  35. Ever see that Hardcore Pawn show where the bitch walks in and demands the pawn shop buys her crap at her demanded price? That is Levi in drag.

    He walks into a Kosher deli and friggin’ demands that he gets a Cuban with pork and bacon and mayonnaise and cream gravy and “F you, you Joo-boy” if he is refused his American right to be served.

    Wanting to buy or sell something from a person that doesn’t sell or buy that something is not the same as your employer begging for an exemption from a law that he doesn’t like.

    Comment by Levi — November 15, 2012 @ 11:44 am - November 15, 2012

  36. Wanting to buy or sell something from a person that doesn’t sell or buy that something is not the same as your employer begging for an exemption from a law that he doesn’t like.

    Comment by Levi — November 15, 2012 @ 11:44 am – November 15, 2012

    Actually, it is the same, Levi.

    If a shop doesn’t sell what you want, you can go to another shop.

    If an employer doesn’t offer the benefits package you want, you can work for another employer.

    The reason you have a problem comprehending this is because you are attempting to rationalize your insane hatred of people with religious beliefs and trying to lipstick up the pig that is your demand for outright government discrimination against and punishment of people with religious beliefs that you don’t like.

    You’re a fascist who wants religions banned by government edict, Levi. Except for Islam, where you and your Barack Obama Party want people thrown in prison for daring to criticize it. Everyone here knows that, and everyone here sees through your rationalizations.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 15, 2012 @ 1:05 pm - November 15, 2012

  37. Why? I live in Texas and I can tell you why he got a large part of the Latino vote. That’s because Texas Latinos have a much softer view of the Texas GOP.

    During the height of anti-immigration fever, Perry and the Texas GOP made it clear they would never pass any law like Arizona’s.

    The Latinos saw Perry defend the Texas State Dream Act in the primaries against Romney. Every time the Texas GOP cracks down on things like the border or sanctuary cities they go to business leaders in the hispanic community and they explain why.

    Once most hispanics hear why they want to seal the borders and stop sanctuary cities (to keep the cartels out and because sanctuary cities become hot beds of crime) many agree right away with the GOP stance.

    The GOP has taken all “anti-immigration” labeling out of its platform and replaced with “guest-worker” program. The GOP has several grassroots programs that help hispanics get volunteer legal counseling for how to navigate the confusing documentation that is becoming a proper US citizen. These programs like Stepping Stones also have been building mentor and tutoring programs that help Latinos learn English so they can get through school. They help counsel their kids on whether college is right for them and alternatives.

    They work to appoint hispanic leaders in the government and diversify their party. The Texas GOP has several groups like Texas Hispanics for Republicans and GOP is For Me that connect with hispanics directly and explain what the GOP is about.

    They go door to door and talk to families. In Waco a recent republican conference attracted over 600 hispanic leaders.

    Dewhurst and many of the Texas GOP are fluent or speak some degree of spanish. The real story in many of these south hispanic counties is that the GOP ran republican hispanics and got with in 5 points of winning all of them. In the one near Corpus Christi (a county with 80 % hispanic population and area they used to write off) they won.

    The democrats, meanwhile, passively wait for hispanics to flip the state blue. The Texas GOP fights tooth and nail from grassroots to government to chip its way into the hispanic community and do stuff for them directly. Get to know them and show that they’re here to help.

    That’s why Texas hispanics broke with the national trend. With the progress their making, hispanics and the GOP in Texas are starting to bond. In a few more years, I won’t be surprised if they go 60 % for the Texas GOP. It’ll be interesting to see the democrats faces then.

    You don’t have to pander to win them. You have to TALK to them. Show you care. That’s what the Texas GOP does and it is winning them.

    Comment by M — November 18, 2012 @ 7:46 am - November 18, 2012

  38. How come people are not finally waking up that feeding
    Identity politics is destroying

    America cultural, political, economical model.

    The problem is not about communicating or talking

    the problem is that current in migrants wants the wealth of America

    but they and their American born children
    do not want to be Americans
    to embrace

    America identity, nationality and embrace, limited government

    both in the economical and political arena

    During the last 50 years, immigrants be illegal or illegal and their

    American born children, have support to identify nationality, culturally wise with the land from where their parents emigrated

    They hold dual citizenship because Latin Americans and other governments passed law allowing immigrants to become American citizens and remain loyal to them , be Mexico etc

    they consider themselves colonies, living in America but advancing the interest of their ‘nations;

    The majority of them, came to live off the generous welfare system

    and on top of that. They do not feel not gratitude or love for this nation

    the problem with the so called Hispanic, Asian vote so on

    is simple. they are lost to nationalistic Conservative Americans because

    They are not American voters but representatives of foreign interest

    The way to deal with the problem is so easy if

    ban or reduce legal immigration
    Mean test eligibility to any benefit

    including schooling

    Forbid illegals including minors to attend school

    Fine big way companies who hire illegals

    Apply the rule of law and take away the US citizenship of those who remain citizens of another nation as

    Treasonous and oath breaker of the US Constitution

    And Do what the Mexico do promote Assimilation over Multiculturalism
    Nationalism over diversity.

    Enforce laws against illegals and built a fence on the South border

    But lets get real, GOP at least that it is taken over by American nationalist has proven to be a no reliable vehicle to defend

    America national identity, national security , economy , language and borders

    Comment by american — November 22, 2012 @ 10:28 pm - November 22, 2012

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