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Some Americans like the Idea of Barack Obama

LIke many conservatives — as well as good number of independents — who follow politics, I’ve struggled to understand how, after four years of near-constant failure, Barack Obama could have won re-election as President of the United States.  He didn’t put forward a plan to improve the economy or addressing the burgeoning debt.  He had not shown much willingness to work with his partisan adversaries in Congress.

In the ended it seems, low-information voters, together with those more concerned about matters other than the economy and our government’s shaky fiscal state, tipped the scales for the Democrat.

Michael Barone thinks that Obama “was helped by widespread feelings that it would be a good thing for Americans to elect a black president and a bad thing to reject him.

Calling Obama “born orator backed by a flawless machine, whose personal rise from a difficult childhood is a true inspiration, and whose achievement in breaking the ultimate color barrier is gift to us all“, Noemie Emery considers a notion we have addressed on this blog

People like the idea that Obama is president. As a politician and president, he has only one failing — he is the wrong man at the wrong time to be leading this country. He is out of sync with his age and its crises. There is more proof every day — here and abroad, in nation-states, states and even some cities — that his political theories will lead to disaster, and do so every time they are tried.

The Democrat may not have any ideas on how to fix the nation’s problems, but people do like the idea of Barack Obama, the post-partisan healer who can bring people together.

In his first four years in office, he governed in a manner quite different from his 2008 campaign rhetoric — and from the media-endorsed image of his character, but some people who don’t follow politics as closely as do we.  And in whatever little bit of time they pay attention to politics, they see a less tarnished version of that image than do those more familiar with current events.

And perhaps if they’re not struggling to make ends meet, they’re not beholden to change at the national level.  Nor are they fully aware of our nation’s pressing fiscal problems — or the storm clouds on the economic horizon.

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  1. The little fascist can not read and comprehend. The first amendment protects the freedom of speech and political protest. Protesting is not a form of demagoguing. It is protest. No matter how the protest is staged, it is protest.

    If the protest uses incendiary language that could lead to violence, the protest can be iced down. There are limits.

    Obama is a demagogue and he and his party have become experts at demagoguery. When the “Plan B” effort to stave off going over the fiscal cliff failed, Nancy came forth and announced that the result of Republicans not saving the country would be:

    It entirely eliminates federal funding for services like Meals on Wheels – which serves 1.7 million seniors – by getting rid of the Social Services Block Grant. This would also eliminate federal funds for child care and related assistance for 4.4 million children; services for nearly 1 million disabled individual; and child protective services which serve 1.8 million at-risk children

    That is demagoguery. Any number of choices have to be made in deciding which cuts to make in the overall general 10% cut mandated. The demagogue immediately says that if you cut the fire department budget, none of the fire engines will have tires.

    Try as he might (and he doesn’t try), the little fascist remains steadfastly i immune from understanding anything that is inconvenient to his rants.

    A father and daughter can not marry because of incest. They are of different sexes and how they do sex includes the biological imperative. There is no equivalence between a father and daughter and a homosexual father and his homosexual son. As to the sex of that loving couple, you can look it up. The survival of the species is not dependent on where or how they grasp things and/or stick them.

    Comment by heliotrope — December 28, 2012 @ 2:23 pm - December 28, 2012

  2. The little fascist can not read and comprehend. The first amendment protects the freedom of speech and political protest. Protesting is not a form of demagoguing. It is protest. No matter how the protest is staged, it is protest.

    If the protest uses incendiary language that could lead to violence, the protest can be iced down. There are limits.

    I said quite clearly that its the conservative media celebrities and politicians that are the demagogues on the issue of abortion. Those protesters are the rabble, and they’ve been roused. Accuse me of poor reading comprehension, you say? Look at what I said here;

    “Well, technically, the cajoling that took place to put these people in front of abortion clinics with their signs would be the demagoguing. Again, abortion is a private issue that has no effect on other peoples’ lives, and yet people are motivated to go to abortion clinics and scream “BABY-KILLER!” at the top of their lungs all afternoon.”

    Not that any of this is important. When you state that protesting is not a form of demagoguing, I disagree. Hell, I don’t even know if I’d call the people that stand in front of abortion clinics ‘protesters’, anyway. I think activists is a more fitting term – can activists demagogue, heliotrope? After all, you’re the only one that knows what that word means, right? Either way, this doesn’t matter. You’re going to absurd lengths to narrow your definition of these words so tightly that they apply to people like me and don’t apply to people that, for example, accuse women of being sluts for voicing their opinions.

    Obama is a demagogue and he and his party have become experts at demagoguery. When the “Plan B” effort to stave off going over the fiscal cliff failed, Nancy came forth and announced that the result of Republicans not saving the country would be:

    It entirely eliminates federal funding for services like Meals on Wheels – which serves 1.7 million seniors – by getting rid of the Social Services Block Grant. This would also eliminate federal funds for child care and related assistance for 4.4 million children; services for nearly 1 million disabled individual; and child protective services which serve 1.8 million at-risk children

    That is demagoguery. Any number of choices have to be made in deciding which cuts to make in the overall general 10% cut mandated. The demagogue immediately says that if you cut the fire department budget, none of the fire engines will have tires.

    Try as he might (and he doesn’t try), the little fascist remains steadfastly i immune from understanding anything that is inconvenient to his rants.

    Okay, I’m confused. I did a Google search for the quote you attributed to Nancy Pelosi, but it seems like this is actually a statement from the White House. What’s more, it’s describing an actual cut that was written into the language of Plan B. To me, it seems like the Democrats are accurately describing a cut that the Republicans would prefer to make and are citing statistics – and apparently this meets the secret standards for your special word. Never mind that the whole ‘Plan B’ thing was a sideshow to begin with! Demagoguing is for people that don’t have plans, demagoguing is for people who are too afraid of their base to compromise. This definitely describes one party, and it’s not the Democrats.

    And why did you say Nancy Pelosi said this?

    A father and daughter can not marry because of incest. They are of different sexes and how they do sex includes the biological imperative. There is no equivalence between a father and daughter and a homosexual father and his homosexual son. As to the sex of that loving couple, you can look it up. The survival of the species is not dependent on where or how they grasp things and/or stick them.

    What?

    Boy, you really are dying to go on this disgusting journey, aren’t you? Is it necessary to have in-depth conversations about all the various ways that family members can have sex with each other just because you don’t understand how laws work?

    Straight marriage does not establish a precedent for father-daughter marriage. Similarly, gay marriage does not establish a precedent for father-son marriage! There’s even empirical proof, since gay marriage has been legal for nearly a decade in parts of the country and incestuous marriage has yet to gain a foothold. I mean, they really have nothing to do with each other. You could just as well posit that if we allow gay marriage, we must allow people to run meth labs out of garages. You could just as well posit that if we allow gay marriage, we must allow murder. You’re comparing something that is harmless and innocuous to something that is horrible and taboo and legitimately criminalized, not because you’re trying to be logical or reasonable, but because you want to scare people into voting the same way that you do. In other words, you’re demagoguing! Somebody brings up gay marriage, and you immediately launch into a series of increasingly stupid statements about people marrying animals and their children and Hitler’s corpse, because what else can you do? You’re upset that people don’t take religion as seriously as they used to, and are desperate to establish that bizarre, adverse, and perverted sexual preferences are creeping into our society as religion is forced to withdraw.

    Well, this idiotic strategy of yours is failing miserably, to the delight of anyone who values rule of law and basic human decency over the scribblings of superstitious, bronze-age goatherds. You know a good way to tell a demagogue? They’re losers. And on gay marriage, you are most definitely a loser. Might not even be a year before it’s legal everywhere in the country. What will you do then?

    Comment by Levi — December 28, 2012 @ 3:55 pm - December 28, 2012

  3. This does not describe the left. The left understands the real, practical implications of reproductive health, and this is where we live when we argue for abortion rights. Every woman is entitled to determine for herself whether or not to carry to term, and there are seriously negative economic, social, and public health consequences for interfering with that determination. I can give you concrete, substantive, evidence-based reasoning for allowing abortions all day long – the pro-life side can only muster “You are killing all the babies!” You want proof? OPEN YOUR EYES. Some of your friends will be along shortly to accuse me of murdering kids.

    No, you can’t, Levi; you simply lie and demagogue.

    That is the truth, and you are helpless to admit it. If you actually had facts, you would not need to lie. But you do lie, you demagogue, and you scream and cry and rant because you have no facts, you have no rationality, and you have no morals.

    Why won’t you provide links, Levi? Why do you scream and cry and lie and demagogue? Is it because you are a loser, boy? Is that why you and your fellows have to lie so much? Is it because you know the Supreme Court is just about to find that there is no “right” to gay-sex marriage, that your “right” to force abortion on people is about to explode, and that your sick and deluded perverse party that endorses having sex when you’re drunk and coercing women into sex like you brag about doing is losing?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2012 @ 5:00 pm - December 28, 2012

  4. NDT.

    Keep in mind, Levi supports the Government outlawing SSM, even if the Court decides to overturn a 7-0 decision. He’s on record saying that rights don’t matter if the government feels they should trample on them

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 28, 2012 @ 7:46 pm - December 28, 2012

  5. Here is Nancy Pelosi doing her abbreviated December 20 demagoguery. If I can locate the transcript or video in which she read the White House stuff, I will post it.

    But the point is moot, anyway. The little fascist can not recognize demagoguery if it bites him on the lips. He is too invested in it to risk discussing it.

    Numbskull is too kind a diagnosis.

    Comment by heliotrope — December 28, 2012 @ 10:56 pm - December 28, 2012

  6. And here’s another example of how Obama Party leaders and supporters can’t argue with facts, so they demagogue and accuse Republicans of murder.

    Once you realize that liberals are all irrational bigots who can’t function without their addiction to hate, they become that much easier to handle.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 29, 2012 @ 3:58 pm - December 29, 2012

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