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National Review favors inclusion of GOProud at CPAC

Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 6:18 pm - February 25, 2013.
Filed under: Conservative Movement,GOProud

Busy with a number of projects today, including entertaining Bruce with whom I just had a nice lunch and to whom I just showed a gas station selling a gallon of regular for over $5, but did want to remind our readers despite the CPAC dustup, many conservative institutions favor the inclusion of gay conservatives.

Shortly, after returning home (from spending my early afternoon with Bruce where CPAC came up), I caught this headline on the National Review’s homepage:

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On Sunday, Bruce reported that “nothing has changed [since] The CPAC Board voted before CPAC 2012 to remove GOProud as a sponsoring organization.” Today, the flagship conservative magazine offered “Five reasons CPAC should embrace the gay conservative group.

CPAC’s decision to exclude this gay conservative group is not sitting well with all movement conservatives. Daniel Foster, the National Review’s news editor, makes a strong case for inclusion:

GOProud is consistently big-C “movement” conservative on the important issues — especially on fiscal policy and the size of government, but also on social issues such as abortion. After all, GOProud was founded by a couple of Log Cabin Republicans dissatisfied with that group’s Main-Street-partnership-style centrism. This alone is a pretty good reason for their inclusion at CPAC. But arguably more interesting, and more important for a powwow that’s ostensibly about making conservative advocacy more effective, is GOProud’s lower-case conservatism.

Read the whole thing.  Foster holds that “the move against GOProud does seem to be all downside.” Indeed.

Just another reminder about the broad-based conservative movement.  The current organizers of CPAC don’t speak for all conservatives.



  1. Neither does GOProud.

    Comment by Kyle — February 25, 2013 @ 6:45 pm - February 25, 2013

  2. I may never agree that hetero “marriage” and LGBT “marriage” are the same. Does that mean my conservative LGBT brothers and sisters will shun me?

    Comment by Richard Bell — February 25, 2013 @ 8:49 pm - February 25, 2013

  3. Yeah, when you get an answer to that Mr. Bell let me know, I’ve been wondering that myself.

    Comment by Auto — February 25, 2013 @ 10:54 pm - February 25, 2013

  4. I think CPAC is marginalizing itself into irrelevance. Tea Party Nation, where Teh Gheys have always been welcome, is the new center of conservative gravity.

    Comment by V the K — February 25, 2013 @ 11:35 pm - February 25, 2013

  5. Gays and GOProud are welcome at CPAC, CPAC has said so. No one is banned, no one is excluded. But seeing as GOProud has taken up the banner of gay marriage, contrary to most conservatives views, they were denied a microphone. Do Pro-Choice Republicans sponsor CPAC? Did anti-war Republicans ever sponsor CPAC? Do pro-gun control Republicans sponsor CPAC? Of course not. News just broke tonight that Chris Christie was not invited to CPAC, that they invited conservative speakers instead.

    I wonder if he will run crying to Buzzfeed and MSNBC calling CPAC and heritage “rank bigots” the way GOProud did?

    How is this hissy fit by GOProud any different than Andrew Sullivan? Or Colin Powell going to NBC and confirming the “racist elements” in Republican opposition to Obama? Hell, how is it any different from Dan Savage or Rachel Maddow?

    Meanwhile, while the hissy-fitters at GOProud are calling CPAC “rank bigots” for not giving them a platform to present alternative ideas, when I very politely, very civilly suggested they had gone too far in telling the liberal press that CPAC were bigots, they deleted my comments, blocked me and told everyone to go find their own venue to express their divergent opinions (you know, kinda like CPAC told them) .

    Jimmy and Chris are monumental hypocrites, typical Victo-crats, intellectually lazy, and frankly, raging pussies.

    Our side would do very well to run away from their kind of Victocrat politics as fast as we can.

    Comment by AmericanElephant — February 26, 2013 @ 12:59 am - February 26, 2013

  6. Yes, Richard, according to GOProud, you are a “rank bigot”

    Comment by AmericanElephant — February 26, 2013 @ 1:02 am - February 26, 2013

  7. Wow.. Are they doubling down on the bigot name calling? Why do they demand an invite if they hate the board so much?seems to me they are trying to kiss up to their friends in the DC lib press again

    Comment by Kyle — February 26, 2013 @ 2:06 am - February 26, 2013

  8. We are at a crossroads. I believe the American people will vote for free markets under equal rules of the game—because there is no opportunity or job growth any other way. But the American people will not hear us out if we stand against their friends, family, and individual liberty.

    Jon Huntsman is a former governor of Utah and was a Huntsman Corporation executive and U.S. ambassador to China and Singapore.

    Comment by rusty — February 26, 2013 @ 5:10 am - February 26, 2013

  9. Don’t forget MSNBC is on GOPproud’s side too.

    Comment by mike — February 26, 2013 @ 6:43 am - February 26, 2013

  10. Stacy McCain has a post about CPAC where he cites a press release from the National Bloggers Club saying Bruce Carroll blogs at


    Comment by Howard Towt — February 26, 2013 @ 1:20 pm - February 26, 2013

  11. Actually, as I pointed out, both Huntsman and MSNBC, just like rusty and concern-troll mike, endorse and support people who call GOProud murderers, traitors, and drug addicts.

    So here we see another example of McCain Syndrome: liberals pretend that they would actually like conservatives if conservatives would just do what liberals say, only to turn around and bash them again once they do.

    Keep in mind that liberals have no principles and no standards other than power and the accretion of power. They are violent, bigoted liars who, as we saw with their pig Barack Obama, will scream that an innocent man is a murderer and a tax cheat because they know their brainwashed puppets like mike and rusty will support anything they do.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — February 26, 2013 @ 1:47 pm - February 26, 2013

  12. Keep in mind that liberals have no principles and no standards other than power and the accretion of power. They are violent, bigoted liars who, as we saw with their pig Barack Obama, will scream that an innocent man is a murderer and a tax cheat because they know their brainwashed puppets like mike and rusty will support anything they do.

    If these words by North Dallas Thirty offend you, please allow me to explain.

    The Senate has not obeyed the Constitution and kept a national budget from being passed for four years. On top of this, Obama’s poison pill sequester blackmail has boomeranged on him and now he is out lying about it and threatening the population with starving children, suspending flu shots, discontinuing HIV testing, releasing illegal aliens, abandoning the border, ceasing maintenance of Navy ships.

    The sequester is 2.4% of the non-budget spending which is borrowed at a rate of 46% of every dollar spent.

    To believe this, you have to willingly believe that the government is operating at a near 98% efficiency rate without waste, duplication or misdirection.

    So, if you are in with all of this balderdash you are either profoundly retarded or your principles are so relativity based on pure ideology identification that you are fulling invested in using any means to reach the ends you desire and logic, ethics, morality and even common sense do not apply in your clawing for ultimate power.

    North Dallas Thirty comes here to cut to the chase. He is pinning a scarlet letter on you if you willingly and knowingly pimp and whore your slutty indifference to truth, honor, fidelity, standards, principle, integrity, character, accountability, moderation, civility, balance and cooperation in order to wrest raw power over the people in order to remake them according to the relativistic views, wants and desires of those in power.

    For more on this topic, you might read Marx, Hegel, Mao, Orwell, Huxley, Shaw, etc.

    Socialists come in degrees of ideology, but ultimately, those who resist being dragged into Utopia end up the same way. Shaw was a eugenics extremist.

    There is an interview from the 1980’s of a KGB defector explaining how American society was undermined by the political leftists and where it will end up. His extensive interviews have been on You Tube, and recently one was put up to warn how “Obama’s end game was revealed” so long ago.

    No one comes to believe this scenario readily. But there are plenty of clips of Yuri Bezmenov on You Tube and people would do well to be aware of his knowledge, understanding and warnings.

    Comment by heliotrope — February 26, 2013 @ 4:16 pm - February 26, 2013

  13. Video: Countdown to the Sequester and Blaming Bush. As seen on Hannity…;

    Comment by Steve — February 26, 2013 @ 6:24 pm - February 26, 2013

  14. Don’t forget MSNBC is on GOPproud’s side too.

    Only because, in this instance, they can use GOProud to attack the right.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — February 26, 2013 @ 6:27 pm - February 26, 2013

  15. Conservative political commentator S.E. Cupp announced Tuesday that she is declining her invitation to speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference until it allows groups that advocate for gay marriage

    Read more:
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    Comment by rusty — February 26, 2013 @ 8:25 pm - February 26, 2013

  16. Once ‘inconceivable,’ Republican leaders sign pro-gay marriage brief
    By Miranda Leitsinger, Staff Writer, NBC News
    Supporters of same-sex marriage hope for a boost this week when dozens of high-profile Republicans, many no longer in office, submit their legal argument to the Supreme Court on why gays and lesbians should be allowed to wed, bucking their party’s platform in a move that one who had a change of heart on the issue said would “strengthen our nation as a whole.”
    More than 80 Republicans are signatories to the “friend of the Court” brief to be filed in the case over Proposition 8, a California law banning same-sex marriage, according to the American Foundation for Equal Rights, which is waging the legal battle against the law. The nation’s high court will hear arguments in the case in late March. The New York Times first reported on the brief.

    Comment by rusty — February 26, 2013 @ 8:38 pm - February 26, 2013

  17. “From The Institute for Propaganda Analysis (IPA):

    Propaganda Tricks of the Trade #7: Band Wagon

    Band Wagon has as its theme, “Everybody-at least all of us-is doing it”; with it, the propagandist attempts to convince us that all members of a group to which we belong are accepting his program and that we must therefore follow our crowd and “jump on the band wagon.”

    Charles A. Fleming evaluates Band Wagon:

    Band Wagon. This is a “follow the crowd” device that promotes the idea that everyone else is doing what the propagandist wants the audience to do . It is more comfortable to be a member of the crowd than it is to stand out or to be left out. An example would be an appeal to vote for a particular candidate because everyone else like you is voting for that candidate.

    Band Wagon is the culmination of the propagandist’s work as he uses it to mold people into a group mentality that rejects any critique of the leader [in this case a policy] and becomes caught up in following him despite warning, despite common sense, and despite destructive consequences.”

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — February 26, 2013 @ 10:21 pm - February 26, 2013

  18. WASHINGTON, Feb 26 (Reuters) – Some U.S. business interests intend to signal support for gay marriage by signing on to two briefs due to be filed this week with the U.S. Supreme Court, according to lawyers involved in the process who argue that gay rights are good for business.

    Various companies are set to join separate friend-of-the-court briefs, one expected on Wednesday in a case challenging the federal Defense of Marriage Act and one due on Thursday in a case that questions a California law that banned gay marriage.

    Major companies are to urge the court to invalidate Proposition 8, the California law in question, and strike down Section 3 of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as between one man and one woman.

    The brief to be filed in the Proposition 8 case, a draft of which was obtained by Reuters, has been joined by such companies as Apple Inc, Nike Inc, Facebook Inc, Morgan Stanley, Intel Corp, Xerox Corp, AIG Inc and Cisco Systems Inc.

    Comment by rusty — February 27, 2013 @ 12:26 am - February 27, 2013

  19. More than 80 prominent Republicans have signed a legal brief to be filed with the U.S. Supreme Court in support of the effort to overturn California Proposition 8. It’s great news for Jimmy LaSalvia, who heads an organization for gay conservatives called GOProud.

    JIMMY LASALVIA: I think that this is just one more example about how everybody, including conservatives, are thinking about the issue of same-sex marriage differently. Npr

    Comment by rusty — February 27, 2013 @ 2:18 am - February 27, 2013

  20. As I’m often finding myself replying to Rusty’s comments…. “So?”

    Comment by The_Livewire — February 27, 2013 @ 7:48 am - February 27, 2013

  21. As an employee of a CPAC sponsor told Right Turn, “CPAC’s in a corner because it can’t afford to cross groups that are big sponsors that have said they’d leave if GOProud is ‘in the building.’” Well, CPAC should get some new sponsors. Entities that would do this do not have the long-term interests of the party at heart.

    The CPAC gathering ironically features panels on how to attract minority voters and getting up to speed on new technology. There is even a panel titled, “”A Roundtable Discussion on The Future of the Movement: Winning with Generation X/Y.” (Anyone on that panel who shows up and doesn’t address the issue frankly doesn’t get it and shouldn’t be instructing others.) Hmm. Perhaps CPAC could start by not subtracting from its already shrinking base. For casual political observers not inclined to attend or listen to speeches the only thing they will hear is that a bunch of conservatives wouldn’t allow in a gay group. In a nutshell, this is what is wrong with the GOP and why forward-looking conservatives shouldn’t encourage this nonsense. . .Jennifer Rubin

    Comment by rusty — February 27, 2013 @ 10:35 am - February 27, 2013


    Comment by rusty — February 27, 2013 @ 10:37 am - February 27, 2013

  23. Again… so?

    Vast numbers of people supported Prohibition. Does that automatically validate the Temprance movement?

    Comment by The_Livewire — February 27, 2013 @ 12:54 pm - February 27, 2013

  24. As I’m often finding myself replying to Rusty’s comments…. “So?”

    Comment by The_Livewire — February 27, 2013 @ 7:48 am – February 27, 2013

    That’s because, Livewire, as I pointed out above, what rusty is doing is propaganda and we know it.

    We also see it as illustrative of rusty’s moral values and principles, which simply are that you let the crowd decide and pick which is most popular at that given point in time.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — February 27, 2013 @ 1:01 pm - February 27, 2013

  25. Vast numbers of people supported Prohibition. Does that automatically validate the Temprance movement?

    Comment by The_Livewire — February 27, 2013 @ 12:54 pm – February 27, 2013

    Even more hilariously, Livewire, this entire argument is around rusty demanding that laws passed by the majority of people be overturned.

    This really exposes what a hypocrite and propagandist rusty is. He expects us to set our values based on “the crowd”, while he screams and cries and whines that the crowd’s opinion is invalid when it doesn’t meet what he wants.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — February 27, 2013 @ 1:06 pm - February 27, 2013

  26. Big Crowd
    A coalition of almost 300 corporations, cities, and other organizations, some of whom all also appear on yesterday’s Prop 8 brief, have filed a Supreme Court brief in support of the overturn of DOMA. The ACLU reports via press release:
    Signers include, Apple, Bank of New York, CBS, Cisco Systems, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank, Facebook, Google, JetBlue, Johnson & Johnson, Levi Strauss & Co, Liberty Mutual, Marriott International, Microsoft, Morgan Stanley, NIKE, Pfizer, Starbucks, Twitter, Viacom, Walt Disney Company and Xerox and the cities of Baltimore, Boston, Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, Santa Monica and Seattle, among others.

    Other supporters, including religious leaders, retired military personnel, children’s rights groups and former cabinet secretaries are expected to file their briefs later this week. Some groups will be holding a press conference at the Hyatt Regency in Washington, DC on Thursday at 9:30 a.m. announcing their support for Windsor’s case, as well as the Supreme Court case seeking to repeal California’s ban on marriage for same-sex couples

    Comment by rusty — February 27, 2013 @ 2:12 pm - February 27, 2013

  27. I used to like S.E. However, that started changing the moment I heard her say she was an Andrew Jackson Republican. Not much has happened since to stop that decline in opinion…

    Comment by Tavern Keeper — February 27, 2013 @ 6:25 pm - February 27, 2013

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