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Although I first saw an online news posting about the explosion in West, Texas on Wednesday night, I had no idea of the severity of the incident, and I didn’t research the matter in much depth.  When I first heard news reports about the story on Thursday morning, though, I was struck by the fact that the reporters and the news networks almost resented having to take time away from covering this week’s events in Boston to report on the disastrous accident in Texas.

I wasn’t the only one to notice.    Yesterday Ace and Mary Katherine Ham noted a New York Times piece faulting Fox News for focusing on the events in West, Texas rather than reporting on the failure of the gun legislation in the Senate on Wednesday.  Writing in the New York Times,  Brian Stelter lamented: “While most of [MSNBC's] ‘Joe’ was dedicated to guns on Thursday, Fox’s morning show, ‘Fox & Friends,’ didn’t mention the word once. It focused instead on news about a Texas fertilizer plant explosion.”

Ace’s characterization of the complaint gets at it perfectly:

The media here documents its own sick-making bias and arrogance but instead of understanding their own words — we ignored the destruction of an entire town to focus only on the minor heartburn suffered by our Liberal Messiah — they use it as a bludgeon for criticizing Fox.

See, Fox did wrong by thinking the lives in West, Texas mattered.

And as Thursday moved into Friday, that has only continued to be the case.  Granted, the story of a manhunt for a suspected terrorist is more dramatic, particularly when most of a major urban area is ordered to go on lockdown and to stay indoors.

But when it comes to the magnitude of what happened in West, Texas Wednesday night compared with what happened in Boston on Monday, what happened in Texas is many times worse, not only in terms of deaths, but also in terms of destruction and lives uprooted.  At this time, the death toll in Texas stands at 14 (including five volunteer firefighters and four emergency service workers) with 60 people still unaccounted for.  Three fire trucks were destroyed, at least 50 homes were damaged or destroyed, and at least 200 other people were injured.

An act of evil which terrorizes and disrupts a major city is certainly important.  What happened in Texas, though, is just as important, as the consequences will likely be much more devastating for the lives of those involved and for the entire community, and yet the media is doing its best to bury the story, just as the media and the Obama administration did its best to deny that a terrorist incident in Texas 4 1/2 years ago was actually a terrorist incident.  How many people even knew that three weeks ago, the Army formally declined to give Purple Hearts to Fort Hood shooting victims?

To listen to most of the media this week, it should be abundantly clear that some lives and some places are clearly more equal than others.  And the lives and livelihoods of a bunch of folks in a tiny town in rural Texas aren’t viewed as amounting to much.

UPDATE:  Assistant Village Idiot has some related thoughts (about Boston’s importance to the media, that is, not about their lack of interest in Texas) here.  This paragraph stands out as a key reflection of the media’s insularity about its focus on the Northeast:

I admit, a few dead and almost 200 injured is a big deal.  But the shared mentality is of the news, the politicians, and the teams combining to make it look more universal than it actually is.  OMG, the kid was from Dorchester!  Why, I go past Dorchester a lot!  A BU grad student! Oh no!  I knew some BU grad students once!

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  1. Warshinton, and it’s suburbs, have become the be all and end all of life in this country.

    Comment by Richard Bell — April 19, 2013 @ 10:57 pm - April 19, 2013

  2. If it bleeds, it leads. It’s not about politics. It’s Journalism 101. Not saying it’s right, just observing the way it is.

    CNN sent Anderson Cooper to West, Texas, and on Wednesday and parts of Tuesday and Thursday, that’s all CNN focused on.

    Or maybe I imagined it. I’ve been accused of much worse on GP. But, this was my experience, so feel free to try to poke holes in it.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 20, 2013 @ 1:48 am - April 20, 2013

  3. And, just to clarify, for news networks, an ongoing Manhunt that shut down one of the biggest cities in the U.S. is considered “sexier” than a small town wiped off the face of this earth.

    Yes, both events are equally tragic. But, the poster has failed to illustrate as to why coverage was politically fueled, other than the poster thinking news networks have everything against small Red State towns. If this had been switched and Dallas was Boston and Danvers was West, you would have not seen a difference in the coverage you saw this week.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 20, 2013 @ 1:55 am - April 20, 2013

  4. “…the poster has failed to illustrate as to why coverage was politically fueled”

    Failed you, perhaps. I think I speak for the majority of regular folks here who understand perfectly the nexus Kurt illustrates in his article.

    This Vince Smegma fellow uses many intelligent-sounding words but doesn’t really understand very much of the world around him, does he?

    Comment by My Sharia Moor — April 20, 2013 @ 7:47 am - April 20, 2013

  5. @My Sharia Moor

    Maybe he is Vinceini?

    “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

    Comment by The_Livewire — April 20, 2013 @ 8:57 am - April 20, 2013

  6. In that case, TLW > You: friendless, brainless, helpless, hopeless!

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 20, 2013 @ 10:55 am - April 20, 2013

  7. You: friendless, brainless, helpless, hopeless!

    Pot, meet kettle.

    “I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.” – Baroness Margaret Thatcher

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 20, 2013 @ 11:13 am - April 20, 2013

  8. Vince–You’ll note that I didn’t specifically state that the coverage was politically fueled, though I did suggest that the nature of the coverage illustrated the media’s built-in biases. In that respect, both the NYT piece (which expressed dismay that Fox focused on Texas rather than the failure of the gun bill) and the AVI comment (about the fact that the media operates largely in the Northeast, and most media personalities and leaders are more strongly connected to that area) are illustrative.

    With regard to your counterfactual, the main evidence that comes to mind is that I mentioned about the Fort Hood incident 4 1/2 years ago. That was a different situation in that it occurred on a military base, and so the government was controlling the initial coverage, but even now, the only people who refer to the incident as a terrorist attack are from the conservative media, despite the fact that Major Nidal Malik Hasan stood up and shouted “Allahu Akbar” before he started shooting. The administration has insisted on classifying it as “workplace violence” instead of terrorism, and most of the lamestream media hasn’t challenged them on that.

    I didn’t mention it in my post, but I also think that the fact the explosion occurred at a fertilizer factory plays into the media’s built-in biases, as well. In addition to being dangerous, I imagine that a fertilizer factory is not an especially pleasant place to work. Then there’s the distrust that most media types have towards the chemical industry and towards industrial fertilizer itself. In one of the key rhetorical twists in the opening of The Omnivore’s Dilemma, Michael Pollan makes it sound as though Fritz Haber was practically a Nazi, despite the fact that Haber was born Jewish and died in Switzerland in 1934. Lamestream media types hold Pollan and his works in very high regard, and Pollan is a professor of journalism at Berkeley.

    Comment by Kurt — April 20, 2013 @ 11:38 am - April 20, 2013

  9. Peter H. > It was a movie quote in response to TLW’s movie quote from the same film.

    Regards,
    Vince S.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 20, 2013 @ 12:05 pm - April 20, 2013

  10. I was struck by the fact that the reporters and the news networks almost resented having to take time away from covering this week’s events in Boston to report on the disastrous accident in Texas.

    Watching CNN all week, my experience was different, as I already explained in my first two posts. But, it sounds like you didn’t read them, so there’s no sense in responding any further.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 20, 2013 @ 12:07 pm - April 20, 2013

  11. The lives in West, Texas are mainly Republican, so the liberal media would rather have them dead so fewer of them vote in 2014. On the other hand, liberals died in Boston, so that is of paramount importance.

    Comment by davinci — April 20, 2013 @ 12:50 pm - April 20, 2013

  12. The disparate treatment of these stories, on its own, doesn’t demonstrate that the MFM are self-interested coastal elitists for whom 2 deaths in a deep-blue enclave mean more than 60 desks in a small town in a red state they despise. But it is part of a larger pattern that makes that case.

    The other thing to consider is that until the bombers were identified as Muslim immigrants, the MFM were openly hoping they would be white males that could be linked to the NRATea Partytax protesters… some other group the MFM wished to demonize. So, the story was more useful to The Narrative than a fertilizer plant in Texas blowing up; which only served to remind people that Texas has an economy where people can find jobs.

    Comment by V the K — April 20, 2013 @ 1:05 pm - April 20, 2013

  13. Also… and this is one reason I don’t watch the news … 90% of news coverage is “what is the Government doing.” Politics completely dominates news coverage because the MFM are part of the political class.

    The Boston story was a “Government story,” because it involved all the alphabet soup Federal agencies, it involved Dear Leader making pronouncements and addressing victims, and cabinet secretaries, and mayors, and police chiefs. The actors in the story were their fellow elites.

    The Texas story, on the other hand, didn’t really rise above the state and local government level; so it wasn’t about the MFM’s “friends.” And therefore, not newsworthy.

    The MFM seem to have the same news guidance as the staff of a high school yearbook.

    Comment by V the K — April 20, 2013 @ 1:13 pm - April 20, 2013

  14. There were a FEW renegade “experts” SOME networks were entertaining in the periphery because of the Patriots Day/Tax Day connection, but, by and large, the media was a lot better this time at stifling their biases then in past situations like these. If anything, there were improvements in the balance of the coverage. For the most part, the general air was, “let’s wait and see what happens” (as they pushed and pushed and misreported certain apolitical developments in the case, the impatient media, eager to be first in the age of the internet, has been known to do).

    Certainly, there were Muslims (and Hindis, and people of other Middle-Eastern cultures mistaken for Muslim, by ignorant fools) out there who were hoping the perpetrator(s) weren’t other Muslims, only to have to deal with more abuse that events like these can stir up.

    Frankly, I was moved by the impassioned uncle who stood up against those who defame Islam with acts of terrorism such as what was witnessed this past week.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 20, 2013 @ 2:02 pm - April 20, 2013

  15. Oh, uh…by the way, early reports state that the Boston Bomber is an Obama supporter.

    Comment by Ignatius — April 20, 2013 @ 2:24 pm - April 20, 2013

  16. Boston Massacre II bombers a lot like Obama’s mentor Bill Ayers. Again, not an angle one can expect the MFM to cover.

    Comment by V the K — April 20, 2013 @ 2:32 pm - April 20, 2013

  17. “How Much Grief Can We and Obama Take?” simpers the headline in the Washington Post. Y’see, it really is All About Them.

    Comment by V the K — April 20, 2013 @ 2:41 pm - April 20, 2013

  18. I see your points, VTK/Ignatius: When bombers are conservatives, the media plays it up. When bombers are liberals, the media plays it down. As details emerge this week, I’m curious as to what will be reported about the bombers’ political beliefs.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 20, 2013 @ 2:57 pm - April 20, 2013

  19. *sigh* O-bomb-A. Must be a phonics thang.

    Comment by Ignatius — April 20, 2013 @ 3:12 pm - April 20, 2013

  20. V the K, that article (“How Much Grief Can We and Obama Take?”) is really something. It makes you wonder where that writer spent the G. W. Bush years.

    Comment by Kurt — April 20, 2013 @ 3:22 pm - April 20, 2013

  21. It IS political, and cultural, and simple arrogance on the part of the liberal news media.

    This really isn’t surprsing – Texas is a part of “fly-over country,” nothing out there but rattlesnakes, and rednecks, oh, and of course, those freaky “Christians” who use snakes in their worships services. So in the news media’s mind – it is Texas; who the hell cares?

    Comment by Charles — April 20, 2013 @ 3:59 pm - April 20, 2013

  22. Hurricane Sandy meant that Staten Island was fly-over country.

    Comment by Ignatius — April 20, 2013 @ 7:26 pm - April 20, 2013

  23. Ignatius wrote: Hurricane Sandy meant that Staten Island was fly-over country.

    From the perspective of the folks in the lamestream media, most of the outer boroughs usually are. There’s Manhattan, and then there are a few select neighborhoods in Brooklyn–Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Williamsburg. Most of the rest is stuff the train passes through on the way to the suburbs.

    Comment by Kurt — April 21, 2013 @ 11:37 am - April 21, 2013

  24. My husband is furious at the lack of coverage. A buddy’s in-laws lost their home and everything in it as well as the apartment complex they owned. They were fortunate to be physically okay but they have lost everything. Beside all the dead, many of whom were first responders there were over 200 injured in a town of 1500. Horrible accident. The school was hit as well. It was difficult to get information because during the search for the bombers local channels here switched to the national feed. I imagine that the Feds won’t declare this a disaster area, Obama refused to do so after half the state burned a couple years ago, unless he thinks he has a chance to turn Texas blue. So looks like we will be on our own. Wish the Feds would leave us alone all the time…

    Comment by Texann — April 21, 2013 @ 11:38 am - April 21, 2013

  25. I agree, the contrast between Texas & Boston coverage is weird. On any “if it bleeds it will lead” type of standard, Texas should have led.

    We do know the lamestream media is race-conscious, preferring stories where whites are perpetrators and non-whites are victims. But that angle is very difficult to figure, here. In Texas, the perpetrators (incompetent employees and/or managers) and victims alike were presumably white first, then some Hispanic, black, etc. (I’m guessing; someone can correct me if I’m wrong.) In Boston, the perpetrators were officially non-white (Muslim, Middle Eastern).

    The Boston story was a “Government story,” because it involved all the alphabet soup Federal agencies, it involved Dear Leader making pronouncements and addressing victims, and cabinet secretaries, and mayors, and police chiefs. The actors in the story were the[ mainstream media's] fellow elites. The Texas story, on the other hand, didn’t really rise above the state and local government level; so it wasn’t about the MFM’s “friends.”

    That makes a lot of sense. It fits with the general ‘Social Network’ type of explanation. Assistant Village Idiot gave another good variant of it (“A BU grad student! Oh no! I knew some BU grad students once!”). Mine would be simply that the media elite were following a “We heart Boston / We hate Texas” type of rule. Texas is District 10/11/12, not the Capitol.

    In any event, this is episode #337,441 of certain left-wing media observers bludgeoning Fox, which in fact covered the events in reasonable proportion, while their own media organs did not. They must really hate the competition.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — April 21, 2013 @ 12:13 pm - April 21, 2013

  26. Very good points brought up, but please keep in mind an ongoing manhunt for a bomber involving a metropolitan area and its outskirts is going to get more media attention, be it Boston, Seattle, Houston, Oklahoma City, Miami, etc.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 21, 2013 @ 1:37 pm - April 21, 2013

  27. Vince, it is great that you see some “very good points,” but you really don’t get the “big picture” point. Yes, this discussion appears to be only about the Boston bombing vs. the fertilizer plant explosion, but we conservatives see and hear from MOST, if not all, major news and reporting sources this disparity ALL the time. It is a constant daily, weekly and yearly thing that we experience. Some times it is rather innocuous, but many times it is maddening. It gets to a point that it is so constant that liberals and people similar to you can’t see the forrest through the trees.

    An innocuous example is simply putting a “D” or an “R” after the name. Look at Corzine articles and reports – it is almost never pointed out that he is a democrat, or a former democrat governor. But, let a republican or christian get in trouble and the “R” word and “C” word are everywhere. The media will call a repubican a “right wing” republican like Rand Paul, but I have almost NEVER heard the media refer to a democrat as that “left wing Democrat.”

    As for the “maddening,” just watch going forward. The media will refer to Dzhokhar as a “troubled teen,” or a “misguided youth” who was controlled by an older brother. What you will rarely to never hear, especially from certain news sources is that he is a “muslim,” or a “radical muslim,” or a “Chechnyan radical muslim.” Could you find in this story any reference to those words, because I can’t seem to find them:http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/21/boston-bomber-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-breaking-bad-fan/

    Over the next months and year, this “troubled youth” will wind up being the “kid next door” and the media will completely white wash his being a muslim or radical. And, our “dear leader” will do the same. You heard it here FIRST!!!!

    Comment by mixitup — April 21, 2013 @ 4:37 pm - April 21, 2013

  28. mixitup > Okay, I understand. The liberal bias exists. And I do believe the media, to a degree, holds “flyover country” in contempt. And in some situations, the contempt becomes more apparent than others. However, I’ve been home all week. CNN news was on for a great amount of that time. And, on Wednesday, when the explosion occurred in Texas, it was as if the events in Boston didn’t even exist. But, that was my experience. Obviously, it was different for others. I’m just commenting on what I saw.

    Frankly, if it had happened in a New England town of 3,000 that was somehow “liberally bent,” I highly doubt that the coverage would have been any different than it had for West, Texas. The news cares more about urban than rural as a general rule. And, as it goes, generally, rural is considered red and urban blue.

    But how many natural devastation’s (floods, hurricanes) have affected Small Town, USA in flyover country and not been given ample coverage? If the manhunt had been in a smalltown, the coverage would have been no different.

    However, millions of Muslims are distancing themselves from the two Boston bombers. They purport that the Islam connection is tenuous at best. And, if that’s the case, then that is what should be reported. And it’s not a white-washing. And, if the bombers had deep ties to militant Muslim factions, then that is what should be reported.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 21, 2013 @ 5:02 pm - April 21, 2013

  29. I am most likely not the best person to argue the veracity of CNN, ABC, NPR, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and the rest of the MFM. I turned them off a very long time ago when I stopped being a liberal. They have decades of highly biased reporting back to Walter in the 1970′s. I get my news from other sources, and think it through and do some research.

    I will accept your point on CNN and West, Texas. The big issue is not the moment it happens, but the way it is covered over time. A PERFECT example is the Gosnell trial. It’s eastern, it’s in a blue state, and it is from a rather “liberal” city – yet the coverage has been horrible – ask your self why? See: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/04/19/New-York-Times-Defends-Non-Coverage-of-Gosnell-Trial-Says-Trial-is-Meaningless

    I would disagree on the “tenuous” connection to Islam/Muslims for our “troubled bombers.” From what I have been reading, they have quite an extensive relationship with radicalized Muslims and Islam. Please see the: UPDATE(2:51pm EDT) in the following: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/21/live-updates-boston-marathon-investigation

    Vince, just give it time. Keep an open mind and start to question the reports and the way they will down play important facts in an attempt to mold people’s opinions. Maby now you will start to see and question all you see and hear. Also, try to wean yourself away from CNN – they are poison!!

    Comment by mixitup — April 21, 2013 @ 5:34 pm - April 21, 2013

  30. “Keep an open mind and start to question the reports and the way they will down play important facts in an attempt to mold people’s opinions. Maby now you will start to see and question all you see and hear.”

    This is perfect and it should be the mantra of ALL sides. Sometimes when you are biased against the folks at CNN/NBC/NYT etc you will only see negatively and be too quick to judge. – See the last paragraph in comment #8 as an example of how personal bias can you lead you to illogical conclusions.
    The blast in TX was horrible. And got lots of coverage. – LOTS. A quick web search will show all of the coverage it got. But unfortunately, many folks in the hard right seem ready to believe the falsehood that it didn’t get much coverage and nobody on the east coast cares. All sides need to keep an open mind and be willing the change minds when presented by evidence otherwise.

    Comment by mike — April 21, 2013 @ 9:57 pm - April 21, 2013

  31. What “illogical conclusions” do you have in mind, Mike? Have you read the Pollan book? The section that I referenced–about the invention of chemical fertilizer–is a hard one to forget, and it helps launch Pollan’s narrative about the evils of modern agricultural techniques. (And as to my point about the veneration of Pollan by the media, he was the subject of a lengthy interview feature on NPR just this morning.) Have you ever noticed the ongoing campaign against the chemical industry generally in the media? It is nothing new, and has been going on for years. My comment was simply pointing out that because the media has an established and long-standing bias against the chemical industry, it stands to reason that they are less interested in covering an explosion at a plant that makes chemical fertilizer.

    You also wrote: “The blast in TX was horrible. And got lots of coverage. – LOTS. A quick web search will show all of the coverage it got.” It got a lot of coverage on Thursday, granted, but my general point in the post was that the media was all too eager to bury the story on Friday, and I have mostly had to look for more news about it since then.

    Vince mentions Anderson Cooper being in Texas on Thursday, and I didn’t know that because like others here I rarely watch any news on television. But my impression is that after Thursday, the Texas story rapidly got buried beneath other headlines. I’d be surprised if Anderson Cooper is still reporting from Texas this weekend, and I suspect he’s not. The fact that you have to do “a quick web search” to find the story, though, illustrates my point. Even now, two days after the manhunt in Boston, you can’t miss the stories about Boston on the web news feeds. To find the latest news out of Texas, you have to go searching for it.

    Comment by Kurt — April 21, 2013 @ 10:53 pm - April 21, 2013

  32. Kurt, CNN shifted back to Boston Thursday night, because that’s when they found and killed one of the bombers, while the other bomber remained on the loose. It’s not bias. It was an active manhunt that had a huge break in the case. Of course, attention turned away from West, TX to the bombers. I’m not saying it’s right, but that’s the way news works. I don’t know why this is so hard to see.

    As far as Gosnell, I agree. If the media was consistent with salacious and “sexy” news stories, the trial would be getting way more attention. He’s a disgusting man and should be publicly shamed for his atrocious behaviors. Is it the media? Is it the audience? Or both? Some may purport that the general populace doesn’t want to watch an abortion trial, because it would make them feel uncomfortable. But, that is not reason a trial such as this shouldn’t be getting the same kind of attention that other tabloid trials. It makes Nancy Grace look kind of like a hypocrite. One could theorize that the “liberal media” doesn’t want to weaken the country’s pro-choice laws, especially in the wake of many states recently tightening their abortion laws. Who knows. I’m pro-choice, by the way.

    But, despite the liberal bias, to claim that the media couldn’t wait to get out of Texas to cover the bombers is a stretch. Again, I repeat, coverage of small red state towns affected by floods, tornadoes, and other natural disasters have always attracted ample coverage. Do you have a different experience?

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 21, 2013 @ 11:24 pm - April 21, 2013

  33. It always boils down to ratings and money. If the Gosnell trial could bring in revenue, you can’t convince me that the media wouldn’t be on it like flies on sh!t.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 21, 2013 @ 11:25 pm - April 21, 2013

  34. #33: “If the Gosnell trial could bring in revenue, you can’t convince me that the media wouldn’t be on it like flies on sh!t.”

    Vince, we’ve known for a long time that that you cannot be convinced of anything that is actually supported by facts. Your assertion that “it always boils down to ratings and money” SHOULD be true, but the facts prove beyond any doubt that it’s NOT.

    Every single day, Fox News has more than double the viewers of MSNBC, triple the viewers of CNN, and dominates the coveted 25-54-year-old demographic. This has been the reality of cable news not for a week, not for a month, and not for a year, but FOR A DECADE. Over the course of the same period, the only discernible change in CNN & MSNBC’s content is that editorial decisions went from being made by anti-American, despot-worshipping commies to anti-American, despot-worshipping commies addicted to crack. A decade of ratings conclusively proves that what CNN and MSNBC have been doing isn’t working, they’ve done virtually nothing to change it, and what they have done (burrow even deeper into the scalding magma of the left-wing echo chamber) has made it worse.

    Fox News has been regularly covering the Gosnell trial from the beginning and of course, CNN & MSNBC have ignored it, along with fellow blackout buddies ABC, CBS, and NBC. Yet somehow, Fox News has maintained it’s decade-long spanking of CNN & MSNBC in the ratings. So, predictably, your assertion that coverage of the Gosnell trial can’t bring in revenue is supported by NOTHING. Moreover, if the Gosnell trial is just some local story incapable of generating national interest (and the revenue to go with it) then why is it, IN FACT, a national story that refuses to go away DESPITE the blackout by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT, WaPo, etc.? The fact that we’re talking about the story NOW proves that it’s an important story on a national scale.

    Vince, the facts don’t prove that ‘it always boils down to ratings and money.’ They prove something much more horrifying–that the left-wing elitists calling the shots at these billion-dollar news corporations are so obsessed with poisoning our society with their sick, nihilistic agenda, they’re willing to SACRIFICE ratings and revenue to that end. But I’m sure they’re very appreciative of your efforts to spread the meme that their actions are impartial and benign. Without the help of millions of low-information, easily-influenced drones like you, their job would be a lot harder.

    Comment by Sean A — April 22, 2013 @ 3:04 am - April 22, 2013

  35. Interesting that left-wing news outlets will go out of their way to “humanize” terrorists, and sympathize with them. But then they treat Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann as the most loathsome monsters in history.

    Comment by V the K — April 22, 2013 @ 7:35 am - April 22, 2013

  36. And for those of you who STILL think the MSM isn’t biased – and you know who you are – try this on for size:

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/adam-carolla-why-did-boston-bombings-get-more-media-attention-than-texas-explosion-boston-is-3-people-dead/

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 22, 2013 @ 10:31 am - April 22, 2013

  37. Great points Sean A! If it was ABOUT ratings and revenue as Vince would like to have us believe, then CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo, etc. would have all converted to a conservative platform years ago. But, they are very content to have FOX eat their collective lunch so they can stick their collective noses in the air in collective arrogance.

    Seems to me there is a “boy god” running around with his nose in the air most of the time too. It just might be a common liberal trait.

    V the K, outstanding article in your link. As I opined above, in 6 months the liberal media will have Dzhokha be the “kid next door.” I wonder if obama would let his daughter date him, or better yet, he can adopt him as a “son.”

    Comment by mixitup — April 22, 2013 @ 10:37 am - April 22, 2013

  38. Dear Reader is headed to Texas to raise funds for his glory; snubs community wiped out by explosion

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/obama-to-hold-fundraiser-in-texas-will-skip-visit-to-disaster-town/

    Comment by V the K — April 22, 2013 @ 11:06 am - April 22, 2013

  39. Regards, Vince S. @ #33:

    If the Gosnell trial could bring in revenue, you can’t convince me that the media wouldn’t be on it like flies on….

    Well, if you can not be convinced, why try?

    But, being thick headed, I will make some observations in an effort to pry around the edges of your sealed mind.

    Gosnell is the worst possible demon for the abortion crowd. He is worse than a “back-alley” abortionist. He was ignored by all the “watch-dogs” for safe abortions: the state health inspectors, the AMA, Planned Parenthood, Code Pink, PETA, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, the New York Times, The L.A. Times, The Chicago Tribune, The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Washington Post, USA Today, etc.

    Do news sources only pursue news that brings in revenue? Really? Is that why ABC, NBC, and CBS have pared their news departments down to minimum in an effort to contain their costs? Wouldn’t you think that staying on the Boston marathon bombings would have been sliced to nothing since it washed all manner of advertising and sponsorship off the air? Or, did they stay on the story because they got lots of eyeballs which helped them boost their ratings?

    Oops! FoxNews got more than the combined viewership of CNN and MSNBC. Why is that? Why did cable news viewers choose to watch FoxNews?

    So, back to Gosnell. The liberal media has decided it is not “interesting” to readers and viewers. Did they poll them? Did they attempt coverage and discovered it was “unpopular” and drop it?

    Are you telling me that the whole Jerry Springer and The View world would not love to chatter and kvetch endlessly about the baby a Gosnell aid found swimming in a toilet and trying to get out?

    Liberals disdain NASCAR as an event rednecks watch only in the hopes of seeing a major crash and blood and guts and tragedy. Well, Gosnell is every NASCAR crash that ever happened all wrapped up into one endless gross, dehumanizing tale of evil.

    Sounds like a great aestheticization of violence film for Quentin Tarantino, except he would never make it. It is not consistent with his ideology.

    How about it, Vince, you are a film guy and a liberal. What is so boring and uneventful to you about the Gosnell case? Would you have a greater interest in the topic if a young girl committed suicide because her parents wouldn’t take her to an abortionist? (The girl could have been a budding genius on the violin and raped by her brother and a devout Catholic. Wow! Now there is a great movie!) Would the news have been on it like Casey Anthony or Treyvon Martin? What do you think?

    Comment by heliotrope — April 22, 2013 @ 11:06 am - April 22, 2013

  40. I hadn’t turned on FOX recently, so I wasn’t aware that Gosnell trial is being covered by the network.

    I also wasn’t aware that because FOX (a niche network) is covering the trial, that if every other channel did the same, the rest of America would tune in. I guess your guy’s point was proven when FOX’s rating went through the roof and it became the most watched network compared to all others combined because they were offering the Gosnell trial, as it wasn’t available anywhere else. I’m aware that FOX is the #1 rated news network, but, by all your accounts, there should have been an inordinate spike when they started covering the Gosnell trial. From the way I read these numbers, CNN experienced a bigger spike than FOX in the last week. Can anyone care to explain that in terms of supply and demand? Because I obviously have no understanding of the concept.

    If there is a demand, people will go to the supply. Right? Or, do I have that backwards?

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 11:37 am - April 22, 2013

  41. For those of you who can’t follow the numbers (i.e. actual facts), I’ll break it down for you. From Thursday before the Boston marathon to the Thursday after, CNN TRIPLED its overall (P2+) viewers. FOX improved its viewership by 50%.

    And, while I’m at, if you look at Tuesday’s, and Wednesday’s ratings, when CNN and the other networks “abandoned” West, TX, their ratings continued to improve (as a collective).

    But, hey, these are just ratings and they don’t mean anything. Right, folks?

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 11:49 am - April 22, 2013

  42. Watching FOX right now … analysts both approve of media coverage of Boston bombings, with some minor criticisms.

    One criticism: reprimanding a network for suggesting suspect was “dark skinned.” Whoops. You mean MSM actually suggested a bomber wasn’t Caucasian when they were? Who would have thunk.

    Also, they shared footage of FBI director thanking “the media” for helping them expedite catching the suspects. They should have been in West, TX. Whoops again.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 12:53 pm - April 22, 2013

  43. P.S. I invite you all to watch the documentary Lake of Fire, an unflinching look at abortion from BOTH sides of the political spectrum. The balanced, intelligent assessment of the issue made a whopping $25,317 at the box-office, because, you know, pro-lifers and pro-choicers are all clamoring for a comprehensive examination of the debate.

    Regards,
    Vince S.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 1:16 pm - April 22, 2013

  44. Exit stage right! Vince, it is here where this conservative could care less about all the bull $hit you think proves your point. You just don’t get it, and you most likely never will.

    Heliotrope said it succinctly: “Well, if you can not be convinced, why try?”

    He tried, but that liberal mind is sealed tight. Real tough to see the forrest when all you can see is that one tree up front.

    Comment by mixitup — April 22, 2013 @ 2:33 pm - April 22, 2013

  45. Vince, it is here where this conservative could care less about all the bull $hit you think facts which proves your point[s].

    FIFY. Because facts don’t tell a story like a stubborn belief can.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 2:38 pm - April 22, 2013

  46. Well, the strike function certainly didn’t work out the way the preview box suggested it would on that last comment.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 2:40 pm - April 22, 2013

  47. #40: “I guess your guy’s point was proven when FOX’s rating went through the roof and it became the most watched network compared to all others combined because they were offering the Gosnell trial, as it wasn’t available anywhere else. I’m aware that FOX is the #1 rated news network, but, by all your accounts, there should have been an inordinate spike when they started covering the Gosnell trial.”

    No, no, no, no, Vince. That was not the point at all. You claimed that networks were not covering the Gosnell trial because nobody was interested in watching it and that it was a revenue loser, not because of bias. My point was that there is absolutely NOTHING to support that except the fact that you said it, which isn’t evidence of anything. Fox News covered it, but I NEVER stated or implied that it gave Fox a ratings bonanza. All I said was that Fox continued to dominate the cable ratings just as it has every day for the past 10 years. So, it’s also clear that it didn’t TANK Fox’s ratings either. So it doesn’t do anything to prove your claim that the story was a ratings/revenue loser.

    Again, you have NO EVIDENCE to prove that it all comes down to ‘money and ratings’ and that CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WaPo, etc. are just ignoring the story because nobody wants to hear about it and it’s a ratings/revenue killer.

    Comment by Sean A — April 22, 2013 @ 2:44 pm - April 22, 2013

  48. #44: “Feel free to irrationalize these facts.”

    Vince, the Gosnell trial has been going on since March 18th. WTF do last weeks’ ratings prove? That there were bigger stories to cover than Gosnell last week? If so, NO SH*T. No one is claiming the Gosnell trial is the story of the century and that Boston and West Texas were secondary to it.

    Answer this question if you can: where were CNN; MSNBC; CBS; NBC; ABC; NYT; WaPo; etc. on March 18th? I know they weren’t too busy covering the Boston bombings or the West Texas explosion because they hadn’t fuc*king happened yet. Any ideas other than the baseless and fabricated ones you’ve already provided?

    Comment by Sean A — April 22, 2013 @ 3:00 pm - April 22, 2013

  49. Supply and Demand.

    FOX supplied a product (Gosnell coverage) that FOX viewers have come to know and demand.

    If the demand was there in greater numbers beyond the niche market interest, audiences would have migrated over to FOX, increasing FOX ratings beyond proportion. All the other suppliers would be wise to follow suit to offer more Gosnell coverage to bring their viewers back.

    As it were, CNN experienced a three-fold spike from Thursday before the Boston Marathon until Thursday after.

    Feel free to refute this, Sean A.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 3:04 pm - April 22, 2013

  50. FOX/CNN “Total Day” P2+ date (using “Thursdays” as a control guide)

    1/17: 1,187 / 394
    2/14: 1,220 / 565
    3/14: 1,170 / 339

    3/21: 1,151 / 319
    3/29: 1,082 / 294 (“total day” date unavailable for 3/28)
    4/4: 1,173 / 346
    4/11: 1,133 / 366
    4/18: 1,606 / 1,075

    Taking Thursday “Total Day” P2+ information available from over the last month and then once from the proceeding three months to provide a context, we see that the Thursday after the Boston Marathon, CNN experienced a 200% increase in viewership (I don’t know if “three-fold” and “tripled” are still correct terms). FOX, who was also reporting on the Boston bombings, experienced a 50% increase in viewership. As you can see, there is nothing remarkable in FOX’s numbers for a whole four weeks since the Gosnell reporting began.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 3:19 pm - April 22, 2013

  51. No, Vince. You have utterly failed to prove that the media blackout of the Gosnell trial is based on anything other than political bias and you’ve refused to respond to legitimate, relevant questions (e.g. what was happening on March 18th?) You’ve offered…let’s see…you own bald assertions, which aren’t evidence. And what else…CNN had a week of higher ratings (though still dismal compared to Fox) because hmmm…the biggest terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 was happening.

    FAIL. Now go away, you ignorant drone.

    Comment by Sean A — April 22, 2013 @ 3:20 pm - April 22, 2013

  52. Answer this question if you can: where were CNN; MSNBC; CBS; NBC; ABC; NYT; WaPo; etc. on March 18th?

    I don’t know where I was on March 18th, but I do distinctly remember watching Anderson Cooper sometime after and him acknowledging the lack of coverage from the MSM on the Gosnell matter, while going into detail about the charges being leveled against the doctor.

    I, for one, believe the Gosnell trial should be receiving MORE coverage from ALL networks. My theory is that the ratings potential IS NOT THERE. Americans in general do not want to watch a trial of a cruel and revolting abortionist, because TALKING ABOUT ABORTION MAKES THEM FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. And it makes the MSM uncomfortable. And the MSM is not going to put themselves in the position of being uncomfortable if there is no net financial gain, because the MSM is a business–a slightly biased business for sure–but a BUSINESS NONE-THE-LESS.

    Capice?

    I do not excuse the MSM. I’m only calling out things for how they actually are.

    I invite you to watch the documentary Lake of Fire, an unflinching look at abortion from BOTH sides of the political spectrum. The balanced, intelligent assessment of the issue made a whopping $25,317 at the box-office, because, you know, pro-lifers and pro-choicers are all clamoring for a comprehensive examination of the debate.

    Regards,
    Vince S.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 3:28 pm - April 22, 2013

  53. Sean A,

    I’ve made my case.

    You’ve made yours.

    I keep presenting numbers. And you keep covering your eyes. Those of intelligence can decide for themselves who failed and succeeded at making their points.

    Regards,
    Vince S.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 3:33 pm - April 22, 2013

  54. Regards,
    Vince S.

    Either imitation is the most sincerest form of flattery, or Vince is probably not capable of a single original thought in his pointy head.

    I’ll opt for the latter.

    Regards (since 2002),
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 22, 2013 @ 4:34 pm - April 22, 2013

  55. I believe I made a case in this thread that is quite original. And coherent. And solid.

    Peter H. responds: “not capable of a single original thought in his pointy head.”

    To quote the recently quoted Margaret Thatcher (h/t to Dan Blatt, as well as Peter H.):

    I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.

    Regards (since 2012),
    Vince S.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 4:41 pm - April 22, 2013

  56. Again, Vince, you are using my verbiage to try to appear intellectual.

    Nice try.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 22, 2013 @ 4:42 pm - April 22, 2013

  57. Actually, I’m using Margaret Thatcher’s verbiage to inform you that you have egg on your face.

    Cheers.

    Regards (since 2012),
    Vince S.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 4:47 pm - April 22, 2013

  58. Here’s what’s really important.

    @anthonyweiner

    Comment by Richard Bell — April 22, 2013 @ 5:21 pm - April 22, 2013

  59. Vince, you probably don’t get it, but there is a difference between making a rude comment and a pointed observation. I suggest you have a lot to learn.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 22, 2013 @ 5:43 pm - April 22, 2013

  60. Peter, you seem to be obsessed with the word “point.” (“pointy head”; “pointed”) Ironically, you have yet to make one.

    Regards (since 2012),
    Vince S.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 22, 2013 @ 5:48 pm - April 22, 2013

  61. Vince, dear, I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed troll.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 22, 2013 @ 5:50 pm - April 22, 2013

  62. Again, I refer you to the aforementioned Thatcher quote you’re already familiar with. Or are you somehow immune (“do as I say, not as I do”).

    I’ve provided a sound argument supported by valid data. And rather than engage an intelligent debate, you have resorted to name calling.

    Regards,
    Vince S.

    Comment by Vince Smetana — April 22, 2013 @ 6:29 pm - April 22, 2013

  63. I’ve provided a sound argument supported by valid data.

    “I reject your reality and substitute the kool-aid” isn’t valid data, no matter how loudly MSNBC pisses and moans.

    And rather than engage an intelligent debate, you have resorted to name calling.

    I never claimed to be interested in debating you. I’m not particularly interested in debating anyone online, least of all some preening, self-important douche who trolls opposition websites under color of “debate.” To be even more frank, I could really give a shit about anything you have to say, snatch. And please, spare us the bleating about your noble intent. You’re basically an annoyance with a braodband connection, which is pretty much what you set out to accomplish in the first place.,

    As for the name-calling…well, I’m crestfallen to learn I have to abandon all hope of ever earning your respect. I’ll toss and turn tonight. Seriously, you guys!

    Now, go get your fuckin’ shine box.

    Comment by My Sharia Moor — April 22, 2013 @ 7:01 pm - April 22, 2013

  64. I’ve read through all the comments here and think that you have all missed the most important point mentioned by Kurt. It isn’t the relative importance of West v Boston but rather the relative importance of West v failure of gun legislation. The NYT critisized Fox for covering West when it should have been covering the gun vote. Surely that is a much clearer proof of bias.

    Comment by LondonTrader — April 22, 2013 @ 7:23 pm - April 22, 2013

  65. The NYT critisized Fox for covering West when it should have been covering the gun vote. Surely that is a much clearer proof of bias.

    I agree. That is clear proof of the bias that has long plagued the NYT.

    Comment by Ignatius — April 22, 2013 @ 8:22 pm - April 22, 2013

  66. The NYT critisized Fox for covering West when it should have been covering the gun vote. Surely that is a much clearer proof of bias.

    Yes, that is the central point of this thesis.

    Yes, it’s a good and worthwhile point to make.

    Maybe the reason the thread drifted is because it is so inarguable.

    Comment by V the K — April 22, 2013 @ 8:27 pm - April 22, 2013

  67. Vinc, I know this dead horse has been pretty well beat up, but I wonder what your response is to the following, considering some of your lame thinking???

    Ratings: Fox Number One In All Cable, MSNBC Collapses

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    by John Nolte23 Apr 2013, 9:37 AM PDT64post a comment View Discussion

    In all of cable, not just cable news, Fox News was the most-watched channel throughout all of last week. During the Boston bombings and subsequent manhunt, the new “Most Trusted Name In News” averaged 2.874 million viewers during primetime, and 1.77 million in total day.

    CNN came in a distant third with 1.985 million and 1.329 million respectively.

    Because no one turns to left-wing talk radio when major news is breaking, MSNBC humiliated itself with a 19th place showing. Fewer than a million viewers tuned in in primetime, and fewer than 600,000 in total day.

    This is not a small deal, either. Once upon a time CNN was America’s news outlet when major news broke. Even as Fox has overtaken CNN in recent years, that dynamic would flip during major news events. Obviously, that is no longer the case.

    CNN certainly didn’t help their situation throughout last week as the network became a laughingstock over flubs both big and small.

    MSNBC, obviously, is paying for a choice they made long ago to get out of the news business. Today the network is nothing more than left-wing talk radio with video and smug hosts, many of whom are starting to all look alike.

    Follow John Nolte on Twitter @NolteNC

    Comment by mixitup — April 23, 2013 @ 4:19 pm - April 23, 2013

  68. MixItUp,
    I was clear about FOX being the #1 news network.

    The numbers I posted showed FOX continue to claim the #1 position by a wide margin.

    I did not dispute that overall viewership increased in ALL networks.

    Not all FOX viewers watch FOX everyday. The same goes for CNN. Viewership increased overall because of the Boston/West, Texas events.

    Nothing you just posted disputes what I said or the points I was making.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 23, 2013 @ 5:14 pm - April 23, 2013

  69. That is not how I read your many comments.

    But, that is why we all have a “belly button.”

    The horse is dead, let’s give it a proper burial. Kurt got a spirited response to his post, which is, I am sure, one of the aims of this or any opinion blog.

    Job well done!!!!

    Comment by mixitup — April 23, 2013 @ 7:20 pm - April 23, 2013

  70. The factual TV-rating evidence I provided was not “lame,” to borrow a phrase from you. Therefore, I can only ascertain that you did not read my more pertinent comments, or you simply didn’t comprehend them.

    Job well done.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 23, 2013 @ 7:54 pm - April 23, 2013

  71. The factual TV-rating evidence I provided was not “lame,” to borrow a phrase from you.

    Ummm..yes, it was. Sorry.

    Comment by My Sharia Moor — April 25, 2013 @ 5:42 am - April 25, 2013

  72. Instead of apologizing, you might actually try refuting the evidence, Eric Olsen.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 25, 2013 @ 10:19 am - April 25, 2013

  73. Instead of apologizing, you might actually try refuting the evidence, Eric Olsen.

    Rrrreally????

    Using my real name is supposed to be some sort of “smack-down?”

    My Lord, you really are quite the adolescent, aren’t you? :)

    Comment by My Sharia Moor — April 25, 2013 @ 10:54 am - April 25, 2013

  74. Eric Olsen, when you had administrative powers at GP and exposed details about my personal life on this site, one might describe it as *adolescent* behavior: acting out like a vindictive kid with whatever is readily available, for not getting what you want.

    I use your name to remind myself of what kind of person you are and the lack of repentance which lies underneath.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 25, 2013 @ 11:16 am - April 25, 2013

  75. Oh, I don’t deny my own little post-adolescent temper tantrums. Not at all.

    The difference between you and me, though, is that I never pretended to get all butt-hurt about it, and claim my actions as empirical evidence that somehow, your pathetic, narcissistic, self-absorbed worldview was right all along.

    Its called hypocrisy, sweetheart. Might wanna look it up.

    Comment by My Sharia Moor — April 25, 2013 @ 11:24 am - April 25, 2013

  76. It’s called apologizing and taking responsible for one’s actions. You might want to actually own up. Thanks.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 25, 2013 @ 11:42 am - April 25, 2013

  77. It’s called apologizing and taking responsible for one’s actions. You might want to actually own up. Thanks.

    Apology means actually feeling remorse for one’s actions.

    Adherents of your worldview spent over a decade pissing on everything even remotely related to the War on Terror, then conveniently forgot all about your objections when the Mocha Messiah landed his ass in the White House and only escalated the whole f*cking thing after having the balls to accept the Nobel F*cking PEACE Prize a few hours earlier.

    You make no apology for your hypocrisy, which renders your argument moot, and worthy of about as much respect as you have for your own convictions.

    My apology, therefore, will be forthcoming as soon as you arrange for a month-long handjob for me, to be administered by 15 people to be selected by me after an online search brought to you by Google and Koch Bros., Inc.

    You putz.

    Comment by My Sharia Moor — April 25, 2013 @ 11:54 am - April 25, 2013

  78. My apology, therefore, will be forthcoming as soon as you arrange for a month-long handjob for me, to be administered by 15 people to be selected by me after an online search brought to you by Google and Koch Bros., Inc.

    TMI

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 25, 2013 @ 12:00 pm - April 25, 2013

  79. TMI? Maybe. Your problem, not mine.

    Comment by My Sharia Moor — April 25, 2013 @ 12:08 pm - April 25, 2013

  80. You’ve demonstrated plenty that constitutes as “your problem.”

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 25, 2013 @ 12:25 pm - April 25, 2013

  81. You’ve demonstrated plenty that constitutes as “your problem.”

    You’re so cuuuute when you hold your firsts like that!!!

    Comment by My Sharia Moor — April 25, 2013 @ 12:53 pm - April 25, 2013

  82. Eric Olsen, when you had administrative powers at GP and exposed details about my personal life on this site, one might describe it as *adolescent* behavior: acting out like a vindictive kid with whatever is readily available, for not getting what you want.

    Comment by Regards, Vince S. — April 25, 2013 @ 11:16 am – April 25, 2013

    But had he made cracks about your cholesterol level and your relatives in politics, that would have been just kosher dandy.

    LOL.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — April 25, 2013 @ 1:23 pm - April 25, 2013

  83. It appears that Smegmasnatch has more hang-ups than Bawney Fwank’s answering machine.

    Just sayin’ is all.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — April 25, 2013 @ 1:24 pm - April 25, 2013

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