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GLAAD Are Just Terrible People

Fresh from its “victory” over Duck Dynasty, the Fascist, Christian-Hating Bully-Boys and Bully-Womyn of GLAAD successfully threatened and intimidated old comedian Bob Newhart into canceling a scheduled appearance for a group of Catholic Businessmen. Ace comments:

GLAAD demands that Christians (fundmentalists, Catholics, those who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible) renounce a core part of their selves in order to join polite society. If they refuse, they will be excluded from society, by use of social pressure to harass, insult, humiliate, ostracize, and economically marginalize those Christians who do not fall into line.

Is GLAAD’s position so weak, so intellectually indefensible, that it cannot prevail in reasoned debate, and therefore all opposition must be bullied into silence? This is how America becomes divided and balkanized; because groups like GLAAD make civil disagreement impossible. “I disagree with what you say, but I will fight for our right to say it,” has become, “I disagree with what you say, and I will fight to see that you lose your job for saying it.”

And some will say, “Well, it’s all right, because the Government isn’t doing it, it’s just a private group.” No, it’s just technically legal for a private group to do it, that doesn’t make it right. The end result is a divided nation where civil debate is impossible.

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  1. Christophobia at work.

    Comment by Juan — December 27, 2013 @ 10:41 am - December 27, 2013

  2. The words of the immortal sage, Rodney King, seem more appropriate as we see a widening divide between the left from the center, “Can’t we just all get along.”

    Comment by Roberto — December 27, 2013 @ 10:53 am - December 27, 2013

  3. It’s almost New Year’s Eve, don’t forget to buy your silver coins, ammo and PVC piping before your local authorities make them illegal.

    The guns you should already have, …and a shovel.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — December 27, 2013 @ 11:16 am - December 27, 2013

  4. Do all the Christian members of GLAAD hate themselves?
    Also, how was Newhart threatened or intimidated?

    What civil disagreement should he or we or GLAAD strive for? Legatus has said and stands by these statements:

    No one is denying them love or happiness. We are not denying love or happiness to the alcoholic by taking away his alcohol. We are not denying love or happiness to the drug addict by taking away his drugs. We are not denying love or happiness to the pedophile by keeping him away from children. In fact, we are showing true love to the sinner by denying him his disordered passions.

    There are many reasons why people suffer from SSA disorder. Some “discover” this tendency within them. Others grow into it through pursuits of pleasure or experimentation. Some use it to punish themselves or others. Whether the disorder has some deep, unknown roots over which one has virtually no control, or whether it’s a developed disorder resulting from bad choices, it leaves an individual disposed toward activities and a lifestyle that are dangerous — physically, emotionally and spiritually.

    [in a] 2011 column… Legate Ed Furton claimed that homosexuality should be “repressed because it leads to such rank excesses”

    They call us broken, dangerous people who should be repressed. Yet, you want there to be “civil disagreement”, and we and our allies should appear with these people on stage?
    Why does GLAAD and do gay people bear all the responsibility for balkanization by objecting to their attacks towards us, but they bear no responsibility for what they call us? Isn’t Legatus contributing to dividing America?

    Comment by hmm_contrib — December 27, 2013 @ 11:59 am - December 27, 2013

  5. Awww, someone said something that hurt hmmm’s feelings, and now they must be punished.

    Grow the hell up.

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 12:32 pm - December 27, 2013

  6. synopsis
    Future WKRP in Cincinnati regular Howard Hesseman makes a return appearance on The Bob Newhart Show, this time in the role of Bob’s new patient, Mr. Plager. Described as “mildly neurotic with compulsive tendencies,” Plager is welcomed by the rest of Bob’s therapy group with open arms. Alas, those arms quickly fold up when it is learned that Plager is gay. Written by Patricia Jones, “Some of My Best Friends Are…” first aired on October 16, 1976, as the series’ 100th episode.

    Comment by rusty — December 27, 2013 @ 1:26 pm - December 27, 2013

  7. Described as “mildly neurotic with compulsive tendencies,”

    Sounds like every gay libtard I ever knew.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — December 27, 2013 @ 1:44 pm - December 27, 2013

  8. …don’t forget to buy your silver coins, ammo and PVC piping…

    I understand the first 2 items (and have them). What’s the PVC for?

    The guns you should already have, …and a shovel.

    Guns…check!
    Shovel…check!

    Comment by Jman1961 — December 27, 2013 @ 2:02 pm - December 27, 2013

  9. @ rusty: Has it occurred to you that the episode may have been using an illustration of injustice to make a satirical attack on the contemporary treatment of homosexuals?

    @ hmmm: GLAAD and its supporters seem to like calling orthodox Christians barbarians and bigots. Why should they and their allies ever come to the table and negotiate with you when you see them as irredeemably evil unless they capitulate to your every demand? See how that works?

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 27, 2013 @ 2:15 pm - December 27, 2013

  10. “mildly neurotic with compulsive tendencies,”

    Sounds like every gay libtard I ever knew.

    Zing!

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 2:24 pm - December 27, 2013

  11. Sean the Sharmuta, note once again the commonality between progressives and Islamists. Under sharia, if you are not Muslim, you are a dhimmi, but you are permitted to live as a second-class citizen as long as you pay extra taxes, keep your faith to yourself, and never speak against Islam.

    Under progressivism, if you are not a secular leftist, you will be permitted to live as a second class citizen as long as you pay your taxes, keep your faith to yourself, and never speak against progressive leftism.

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 2:26 pm - December 27, 2013

  12. I understand the first 2 items (and have them). What’s the PVC for?

    PVC Backyard Cache for guns, ammo, silver, …even survival supplies. And if your home is physically-compromised or searched…

    In a real crisis, ammo is a better trade-good than silver coin — bricks of 22LR and .223 hollowpoint; cartons of .357, .44SPL and 45ACP; 10-packs of .30-30, .308 and .30-06.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — December 27, 2013 @ 2:45 pm - December 27, 2013

  13. @ V the K: Sounds similar to the overlap between Communism and Fascism, which is far greater than people care to admit. Many of the early members of the Nazi Party were former Communists who said that they liked Hitler’s ethnocentric spin on Communist rhetoric; Hitler explicitly designed the Nazi flag to resemble the Communist flag, but again, with a German ethnocentric twist.

    Stalin and Hitler had a temporary entente. Similar to the current progressive apologism for Islam and the media’s silence on Islamic extremism, both Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia toned down their rhetoric against the other for the benefit of the people they controlled for the sake of their relations. And we all know how the Nazi-Communist relations broke down. It’ll happen again.

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 27, 2013 @ 2:50 pm - December 27, 2013

  14. Why should they and their allies ever come to the table and negotiate with you when you see them as irredeemably evil unless they capitulate to your every demand?

    First off religious conservatives have been attacking gay people for centuries and labeling lgbt individuals as freaks and threats to society. Boys beware is such a lovely example of the “loving” conservative view of gay men. You expect people to just forget what was happening only 20 years ago?

    “Oh yes, we compare you constantly to terrorists, child molesters, drug addicts, murderers, and all other things, but we really love you and you should bargain with us.”

    That is naive, but hey at least christians can act like they are being persecuted. In the end there is no need to negotiate with the losing side. I feel no need to bargain with individuals whose words and actions have made it much easier to attack individuals for their sexuality.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 3:02 pm - December 27, 2013

  15. I feel no need to bargain with individuals whose words and actions have made it much easier to attack individuals for their sexuality.

    Or to treat others with civility, courtesy, or basic decency.

    And then you whine about the lack of civility in politics.

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 3:09 pm - December 27, 2013

  16. And Lady_Byron returns:

    In the end there is no need to negotiate with the losing side.

    Until the tide comes back in again and you and yours are taking on water.
    It won’t be long now.

    Comment by Jman1961 — December 27, 2013 @ 3:55 pm - December 27, 2013

  17. Lord_Byron seems to blithely ignore the fact that the negative stereotypes conservatives have about gays are often self-promoted. LGBT-made media often celebrates the very debauchery and promiscuity that conservatives accuse them of.

    “He said something that hurt my feelings, so I’m going to be mean to him until he’s nice to me!” What are you, five?

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 27, 2013 @ 4:24 pm - December 27, 2013

  18. 4. Do all the Christian members of GLAAD hate themselves?

    First, I have no idea how many “Christian members” GLAAD has. According to their website, they have a full-time staff of about 30 people, but their total membership is claimed to be around 15,000. Mind you, one becomes a “member of GLAAD” merely by giving a suggested minimum donation of $50 — and it’s highly probable that the 15,000 total includes people who gave the organization some money years and years ago but have long since been routing email from glaad.org into the Spam folder and no longer consider themselves to be a member, supporter, or fan.

    At any rate, though, GLAAD may well have some members who identify as Christian and who do not hate themselves, but do hate certain other Christians — namely, the several hundred million “Christianists®” who have the appalling bad taste to believe that the Bible’s verses appearing to condemn homosexual behavior actually do condemn it, and that these verses are still as valid and binding today as they ever were. How frightfully retrograde!

    Comment by Throbert McGee — December 27, 2013 @ 4:32 pm - December 27, 2013

  19. Ah, “Christianists,” a term coined by RawMuscleGlutes to describe Christians who refuse to adapt their faith the whims of the Secular Left.

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 4:42 pm - December 27, 2013

  20. @V

    Or to treat others with civility, courtesy, or basic decency.And then you whine about the lack of civility in politics.

    No, I don’t complain about the lack of civility in politics. Tell me who spent the last millennium vilifying and attacking gay people? Who spent so much time torturing, humiliating, and persecuting whom? You want respect well you have a couple hundred years worth of baggage that you need to get over first.

    If your actions or ideas support the persecution of people because of who they are attracted to I do not even have to attempt to act civil to that person. You must be all warm inside this week to know that conservative values were reinforced in Uganda.

    Oh please, Sean, if it was only about gay men having lots of sex that conservatives talked about it wouldn’t be a big deal and it wouldn’t be out of character for certain people that like to call women sluts. I care nothing if people don’t like me and hell I do not even care if you don’t respect me. All I want is to be treated fairly and equally under the law which is something that those I disagree with don’t even want. They only want to bargain now because it is obvious now that they are losing, but only a few decades ago they were demanding gay people be cut off from society and imprisoned.

    Those words also have impact in other places since in many countries they are using those words and ideas to support the persecution of lgbt individuals.

    Jman, that is the nice thing about social movements. Once the rights have been recognized it is next to impossible to revoke them. Tell me how many people born after the civil rights movement do you think support taking away those hard earned rights? In a few decades kids will look back and it will amaze them that gay people were ever treated like 2nd class citizens.

    namely, the several hundred million “Christianists®” who have the appalling bad taste to believe that the Bible’s verses appearing to condemn homosexual behavior actually do condemn it, and that these verses are still as valid and binding today as they ever were.

    When those same people no longer wear mixed clothes, do any work on the sabbath, and no longer eat any shellfish you can talk otherwise you are just a hypocrite. Yeah, they are as binding then as they are now as in that they are arbitrary rules made up that have no legal basis.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 5:27 pm - December 27, 2013

  21. Wow, Lady Byron sure did use a lot of words just to say, “Historical victimization makes it okay for me to act like a complete d-bag.”

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 5:39 pm - December 27, 2013

  22. @ V the K: Quite. Hope he’s for the equal application of the “shoe’s on the other foot” doctrine.

    @ Lord_Byron: Ronald Reagan (yes, that one) opposed laws that put gay teachers out of work and did not believe that homosexuality was a sin. Margaret Thatcher (yes, that one) supported the decriminalization of homosexuality and opposed a plan to create gay internment camps in England during the AIDS crisis. Meanwhile, the Democrats support legislation that would deprive gay people the right to defend themselves from gay bashers. Which side is really doing the damage to gays here?

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 27, 2013 @ 5:51 pm - December 27, 2013

  23. Which side is really doing the damage to gays here?

    To a neurotic, leftist bed-wetter, the people he hates are people who say that gays aren’t going to heaven (Which he doesn’t believe in anyway) and they must be silenced, lest they hurt his feelings. And he gets to be douchey to them because it makes him feel better about himself.

    To anyone who isn’t PajamaBoy, that seems like a pathetic way to go through life. Leftists call it “empowerment.”

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 5:56 pm - December 27, 2013

  24. If these people are as confident as they claim to be that the views that they hold are the just and correct ones, then why are they so “threatened” in any instance where someone offers an opposing viewpoint?
    Doesn’t sound like confidence to me.

    Comment by Jman1961 — December 27, 2013 @ 6:10 pm - December 27, 2013

  25. …a plan to create gay internment camps…

    As opposed to quarantine?
    I don’t advocate internment camps, and I don’t think quarantine (a common and effective response to communicable diseases in the late 19th and 20th centuries) would have necessarily been an effective response at the dawn of AIDS, but I wonder how many people would be alive today if we had quarantined folks until we had determined the exact methods of transmission.
    Not even bath houses could be closed, what with all the weeping and wailing about ‘rights’, ‘stigma’, ‘victim’ and ‘oppression’ from the congregants at the Church of the Perpetually Offended.

    Comment by Jman1961 — December 27, 2013 @ 6:24 pm - December 27, 2013

  26. Actually Byron’s just shown he’s a hypocrite.

    After being told that his speech in offensive, he continues to waggle his fingers over the keyboard.

    Like most fascists, he believes he should have rights that no one else does.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 27, 2013 @ 6:36 pm - December 27, 2013

  27. @ Jman: The man in question was a very conservative member of Thatcher’s cabinet. He suggested to Thatcher that, since AIDS was known at that point to be predominant among gay men, that the British government should order the construction of camps for gay men outside of population centers for “temporary” detainment, and suggested that police be given the power to forcibly remove gay men to the camps if they refused to go voluntarily. Apparently, the details made the scheme sound so much like the Nazi concentration and death camps that Thatcher and her cabinet called the minister on it and refused to consider the proposal.

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 27, 2013 @ 6:51 pm - December 27, 2013

  28. First off, the shoe has been on the other foot for lgbt people for a long time. What is happening now is a far cry from any historical discrimination that has happened. Gay people are not going to round up the religious and give them electro therapy, castrate them, lock them up, or burn them alive at the stake. You wouldn’t expect Jewish people to be nice to nazis or black people to be nice to the kkk so why do you expect respect or niceness to groups that worked to deny basic rights?

    Reagan is mixed when it comes to gay issues. He did oppose prop 6, but a lot of that opposition to the bill came from possible abuse of the law. He wrote, “And how do you prevent an overwrought child with bad grades from seeking revenge by accusing the teacher of a homosexual advance or “advocacy”? Under Prop. 6, you don’t.”

    Of course he once said, “”My criticism is that [the gay movement] isn’t just asking for civil rights; it’s asking for recognition and acceptance of an alternative lifestyle which I do not believe society can condone, nor can I.”

    As well as during an interview when asked about anti-discrimination laws when it came to housing he questioned the ordinance and wondered whether banning discrimination in jobs was the same as advocating promiscuity among students. “Well, I am one who believes in the rights of the individual. But I do have to question sometimes whether individual rights are being defended in this particular field, or whether they are demanding an acceptance of their particular lifestyle that others of us don’t demand. For example, should a teacher in a classroom be invoking their personal habits and advocating them to their students as a way of life?”

    The Family Protection Act was also endorsed by Reagan.

    Thatcher did vote to decriminalize homosexuality, but then she did lend her support to that lovely Section 28 of the Local Government Act 1988.

    You really just called gun control laws that prevent gay people from protecting themselves from gay bashers? Statistically speaking lgbt individuals are usually attacked by multiple people and do you think a gun will prevent someone from punching you in the back of the head or the face? I would say the group that holds an unyielding religious view that gay people are a threat to society is the bigger threat.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 6:54 pm - December 27, 2013

  29. Once the rights have been recognized it is next to impossible to revoke them.

    Hey, Lady_Byron! Check this out.
    I guess you and yours haven’t won the right to banish everyone who disagrees with you to the gulag.
    And this coming closely on the heels of the Cracker Barrel ‘about face’.
    The score: Grown-ups: 2 Screeching Pajamaboy fascists: 0

    Don’t forget about those tides that I mentioned.
    The pushback begins…

    Comment by Jman1961 — December 27, 2013 @ 6:57 pm - December 27, 2013

  30. Of course, if you and yours understood that the concept of free speech has nothing to do with popularity contests, incidents like these need (almost) never happen.
    But I have no doubt that this is entirely lost on you, Lady_B.

    Comment by Jman1961 — December 27, 2013 @ 7:28 pm - December 27, 2013

  31. What makes me shake my head is how Lord Byron is determined to go through life consumed with hate and bitterness toward people who only want to pray for him. That seems like a messed up way to go through life; yet to his way of thinkimg it is perfectly normal.

    I guarantee you Christoams do not go through life obsessed with H8ting Teh Gheys the way gay leftists are obsessed with hating Chriatians.

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 7:45 pm - December 27, 2013

  32. Shorter Lord_Byron: What we’re doing right now is not as bad as what has happened to us, so it’s perfectly fine; we have not intention of proving religious conservatives wrong about us being vindictive and cruel. I can’t understand how a multiple-shot firearm gives an advantage over people armed with only their fists, and I can’t understand why casting my political lot with people who support Muslim terrorists would make some people see me as a threat to society.

    My reaction: Roflmao

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 27, 2013 @ 7:49 pm - December 27, 2013

  33. Even Shorter Lord Byron: “Derp.”

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 8:34 pm - December 27, 2013

  34. The_Livewire, I never said that the Duck Dynasty guy should have been removed from his show for his comments and frankly I don’t care what a reality star from a scripted show has to say about me. In addition, my comments are no more offensive than those here that call anyone on the left a libtard or other such names.

    I claim no rights for myself that no one else has.

    I am free to call what the guy from dynasty bigoted and outdated and he has the right to say what he wants. What you, and so many other conservatives seem to forget, is that there are limits to free speech and there are consequences for your words. There is no guaranteed platform for your speech and there is no right to having a tv show. Hell, Bashir, was rightfully fired for his comments about Palin, but I am sure that was wrong as well.

    The issue with cracker barrel I don’t care about either. I was talking about the actual rights won by LGBT individuals that are next to impossible to roll back without a take over of the government by fascists. Unpopular speech has the right to be said, but that does not guarantee, as I said, the right to a platform. It was after all the same views that led to the murder of people like Matthew Shephard and other LGBT individuals like him.

    I hold no bitterness for those that simply state they are going to pray for me. I hold animus towards those that claim that they are going to help me by voting to restrict my rights. I hold animus for the double talk hate the sin not the sinner. The left does not hate christians, but the existence of liberal christians must be a contradiction to you. I mean after all no true christian™ would be liberal. Except for all that helping the poor and turning the cheek stuff.

    Why is it lgbt people’s responsibility to make religious conservatives not view as “vindictive and cruel”? I am not responsible for your beliefs and if you want to see the actions as vindictive and cruel that is up to you. Of course you are blaming lgbt for the biases of the religious, but I guess that is normal. The push for equality is neither vindictive nor is it cruel. As for guns, tell me how quickly are you going to pull a gun on a group that jumps you from behind? Show me how democrats are supporting terrorists. If you hadn’t realized it most people on the left do not support the Islamic fundamentalism that the terrorists espouse and most would not support the groups unlike certain conservatives who sold weapons to terrorists to support rightwing death/rape squads in certain central american countries. Of course then we could talk about the support of the right for dictators as long as they claimed they were anti-communist. How did that support for pinochet, diem, or saddam work out?

    As a last note you do realize it was not just gay people he offended with his comments, correct? No sane person can say with a straight face that the jim crow south was good for black people. But I guess suggesting that people were better off when you could lynch them is sane to certain individuals.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 9:00 pm - December 27, 2013

  35. If these liberals are trying to engage us in conversation, they have a funny way of going about it. Conversation requires mutual accommodation. The liberals who come on here bellow at us to adopt their views without exception. Of course, we know their game and refuse to submit. At least they generally have the sense to realize we’re having none of their nonsense.

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 27, 2013 @ 9:01 pm - December 27, 2013

  36. It was after all the same views that led to the murder of people like Matthew Shephard and other LGBT individuals like him.

    Wrong. What led to the death of Matthew Shepard was the victim’s desire for crystal meth and reckless disregard for his own personal safety.

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 9:10 pm - December 27, 2013

  37. I hold animus towards those that claim that they are going to help me by voting to restrict my rights.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 9:00 pm – December 27, 2013

    No, you don’t.

    You voted for and endorse as your messiah Barack Obama, who has restricted your rights to choose health insurance as you see fit, own a weapon, be secure from unreasonable search and seizure, make any type of political speech without being attacked by the IRS, and practice religious beliefs freely.

    In short, you junked the entire Bill of Rights when you chose Barack Obama. So you clearly don’t care about “rights”; what you instead want are special handouts and privileges given to you and you alone based on your sexual orientation.

    Show me how democrats are supporting terrorists. If you hadn’t realized it most people on the left do not support the Islamic fundamentalism that the terrorists espouse and most would not support the groups unlike certain conservatives who sold weapons to terrorists to support rightwing death/rape squads in certain central american countries.

    Oh, you mean Iran/Contra? Funny, you sell weapons and give money to Iran NOW with Obama’s statement that Iran does not and has never supported terrorism ever, so what exactly changed?

    And as far as death/rape squads, perhaps you ought to familiarize yourself with what Hamas and the Palestinian Authority that you fund with hundreds of millions of dollars a year does to Jews, gays, and women who don’t wear the proper headscarves. Here’s a hint: you won’t find it in your “Queers for Palestine” brochures.

    As for guns, tell me how quickly are you going to pull a gun on a group that jumps you from behind?

    LOL. Have you ever handled a gun? Have you ever even been in a situation more dangerous than walking across your white liberal gated subdivision at night? Do you know anything about criminals other than what you have watched on TV?

    If you had done either, you would have realized that you would have to be ridiculously STUPID to put yourself in that type of cornered situation, that the primary value of a gun is deterrence, and that criminals are not idiots who would go after someone with a gun when there are plenty of unarmed and deliberately-helpless people like yourself that they can rob without the risk of being shot.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 27, 2013 @ 9:37 pm - December 27, 2013

  38. I guarantee you Christoams do not go through life obsessed with H8ting Teh Gheys the way gay leftists are obsessed with hating Chriatians.

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 7:45 pm – December 27, 2013

    The funny part is that Lord_Byron is screaming that he and his fellow gay bigots are justified in their actions by things that happened a millenium ago.

    Since Muslims slaughtered Christians wholesale a thousand years ago, do we have carte blanche to slaughter Muslims as well?

    The degree of psychosis that is required to be a gay liberal comes out in every one of Lord_Byron’s statements. There is no rationality whatsoever in anything that he has written; it is an ugly combination of irrational tantrums and desperate attempts to rationalize hatred, bigotry, and violence towards Christians, all with government sanction.

    Since Lord_Byron has openly advocated discrimination and punishment of Christians, I think the gloves need to come off at this point. Lord_Byron is incompatible with civil society. He is mentally and morally incapable of acting without malice or bias. He admits that he must hate and discriminate against Christians and that any actions he takes against Christians, including violence and incarceration, are justified based on past events. He openly advocates for persecution of people based on the way that they vote. He supports and endorses people like Dan Savage and the gay and lesbian community leaders who have called for the murder of Republicans and their families, and who have demanded that gays and lesbians who do not vote for Barack Obama be stripped of their right to vote. He is a threat to his workplace, a threat to his employer, and a threat to society as a whole, because he is both mentally and morally capable of and culpable for acts of violence against people because of his hatred for their religious beliefs.

    Lord_Byron and his ilk have threatened to murder Christians. Lord_Byron states that the murder of Christians is justified because of their religious beliefs and because of what he ascribes to them all historically. Lord_Byron states that it is wrong for Christians to defend themselves.

    There is nothing that Lord_Byron has said that was not in the Nuremberg laws. And that is exactly the spirit in which he and his fellow gay bigots and anyone who supports him operates.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 27, 2013 @ 9:49 pm - December 27, 2013

  39. @ ND30: But he “has no problems with those who just pray for him.” Strange that the only rights he seems to be concerned about are rights specific to the gay community. If he’s only concerned about the betterment of gay people, does that make him a heterophobe? ;)

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 27, 2013 @ 9:53 pm - December 27, 2013

  40. If he’s only concerned about the betterment of gay people, does that make him a heterophobe?

    It makes him a herd animal.
    A gay Guernsey.
    Moooooo.

    Comment by Jman1961 — December 27, 2013 @ 10:07 pm - December 27, 2013

  41. @Sean

    No, I don’t expect you or other conservatives to change your views. I did not come to this site expecting to do so. Though with the statements of the posters here I do have to wonder how many are actually gay when so many seem to want to repeat the idea that the majority of gay men are pedophiles.

    @V
    Really you are going to repeat that unverified story that Shephard was a drug dealer and was a lover/rival dealer of one of his murderers? Tell me, how often do rival drug deals sleep with each other?

    Funny thing, but the search and seizure thing happened prior to the president being elected. Who was it again that was in the white house when the patriot act and all those other laws were signed into effect? I think his name began with a “g”. I am not saying things have gotten better under President Obama, but don’t act like this is a new thing and don’t act like it is something oppose to by conservative politicians. Which members of congress are the ones screaming the loudest about how the NSA is keeping us safe and we need the programs?

    As for the IRS incident it wasn’t just conservative groups that were targeted for higher scrutiny. I am taking this from wikipedia, but the following were things that was searched for: referencing words such as “Tea Party,” “Patriots,” “Israel,” “progressive,” “occupy,” or “9/12 Project” in the case file; outlined issues in the application that included government spending, government debt, or taxes; involved advocating or lobbying to “make America a better place to live”; had statements in the case file that criticized how the country is being run; advocated education about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights; were focused on challenging the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act — known by many as Obamacare; questioned the integrity of federal elections.

    The practicing of religious beliefs are not being attacked in the country. If anything the practice of religious beliefs is flourishing. Hell, the IRS won’t even go after churches that blatantly tell people to vote for specific candidates every year. But if you want to talk about trashing the constitution you are one to talk. Which side is trashing the 5th amendment and eighth amendment. Oh that’s right I forgot that what we do to detainees is not torture.

    Evidence that we are selling weapons now to Iran. LGBT

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 11:12 pm - December 27, 2013

  42. Though with the statements of the posters here I do have to wonder how many are actually gay when so many seem to want to repeat the idea that the majority of gay men are pedophiles.

    Mainly because the international leadership of the gay and lesbian community, representing such groups as GLAAD, the Human Rights Campaign, NGLTF, and others, fully endorsed and supported pedophilia and sex with underage children as natural and normal for the gay and lesbian community.

    NAMBLA has been a member of the International Lesbian and Gay Association for 10 years. We’ve been continuously active in ILGA longer than any other US organization. NAMBLA delegates to ILGA helped write ILGA’s constitution, its official positions on the sexual rights of youth, and its stands against sexual coercion and corporal punishment. We are proud of our contributions in making ILGA a stronger voice for the international gay and lesbian movement and for sexual justice. ……..

    LGA’s current positions on man/boy love and pedophilia are explicit:

    – In 1985, ILGA adopted a position on “Age of Consent/Paedophilia/Children’s Rights” that urged member organizations to “lobby their governments to abolish the age of consent law” so long as there is “adequate protection for youth from being sexually abused without the age of consent law.”

    – In 1986, ILGA adopted a position that says the group “supports
    the right of young people to sexual and social self-determination.”

    – In 1988, ILGA declared “this conference recognizes that existing
    same-sex age-of-consent laws often operate to oppress and not to
    protect; that in many countries, existing laws on sexual coercion
    and rules of evidence also often operate to oppress and not to protect; that therefore member organizations are urged to consider
    how best children, adolescents, and people of all ages can be empowered and supported against both sexual coercion and sexual oppression and to work towards that end.”

    – In 1990, ILGA “calls on all members to treat all sexual minorities with respect and to engage in constructive dialogue
    with them. In another position adopted that year, ILGA declared
    that it “supports the right of every individual, regardless of age, to explore and develop her or his sexuality.”

    And before you start screaming and ranting about being held accountable for the actions of other people who happen to belong to the same group you endorse and support decades ago, I would seriously consider the possibility that we will take your words demanding that all Christians alive today be held accountable for the action of every Christian throughout history and jam it so far down your throat that you will figuratively be farting Bibles.

    And let’s show another example of your hypocrisy.

    Funny thing, but the search and seizure thing happened prior to the president being elected. Who was it again that was in the white house when the patriot act and all those other laws were signed into effect? I think his name began with a “g”. I am not saying things have gotten better under President Obama, but don’t act like this is a new thing and don’t act like it is something oppose to by conservative politicians. Which members of congress are the ones screaming the loudest about how the NSA is keeping us safe and we need the programs?

    So your argument is to blame Bush for what Obama is doing.

    And you refuse, absolutely refuse, to call for Obama’s impeachment or scream that such actions are unconstitutional as you did for the entirety of the Bush presidency.

    Black skin good, white skin bad. You really are nothing more than a sick racist.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 27, 2013 @ 11:27 pm - December 27, 2013

  43. And let’s go for more:

    Hell, the IRS won’t even go after churches that blatantly tell people to vote for specific candidates every year.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 11:12 pm – December 27, 2013

    Especially when said churches are pushing Barack Obama and the Barack Obama Party.

    That nicely torpedoes both your attempts to argue that the IRS is non-partisan and that the DOJ is acting fairly.

    But if you want to talk about trashing the constitution you are one to talk. Which side is trashing the 5th amendment and eighth amendment. Oh that’s right I forgot that what we do to detainees is not torture.

    Of course not. You screamed it wasn’t torture when Saddam Hussein was doing worse or when al-Qaeda was cutting off the heads of Jewish reporters, so what we realize is that you are a bigot and hypocrite who doesn’t mean a word that he says.

    Especially since Obama has been in power for five years and, like a good little racist, you shut up about detention and torture the moment he took power. When you have the balls to apply the rules to Obama, which you cannot and will never do, then you may speak; until then, you’re the worst kind of opportunistic coward.

    But we knew that. And that is why Christians are now going to start treating gays like you like Islamists have, because frankly you are nothing more than animals who understand nothing but pain. You are indecent, hatemongering, amoral bigots; as your Ethan Krupp, the face of your Obama Party outright states, you have no morals and will do nothing but attack.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 27, 2013 @ 11:33 pm - December 27, 2013

  44. Damn it hit submit too quickly. To continue LGBT rights in Palestine is sketchy. There are no anti-discrimination laws, but it is legal in certain areas that did not have the british penal code. The US government does not provide funding to hamas, but I take it you are talking about the money being invested in Palestine. You can also talk about attacks on gay people and women by orthodox Jews in Israel, but that goes against your narrative so I guess it doesn’t count.

    Grew up in the country and fired guns quite often and don’t live in the suburbs, but nice generalization. I also don’t walk around scared for my life. As for putting yourself in such a situation it has happened before. How many links do I need to post here to show a gay couple being jumped to prove a point? Sure a gun in a holster can be a deterrent, but if you can not reach said weapon and are attacked from behind what do you do?

    Well, Dallas, it is funny that you mention this because for many the current wars in the middle east is just another crusade, but seeing as both sides attacked each other during that time period I would say they are equal. It is also interesting to note that the Muslims, like Saladin, were far more lenient than the christians when it came to the crusade. The muslims didn’t cut people open after they took jerusalem in attempt to see if people tried to sneak gold out. They also, as far as I am aware, didn’t engage in large scale cannibalism during the crusades. As I said though both sides killed each other during the crusades so I would say it’s about equal. The crusades also ended in 1272 so there is 700 years or so of non-action while attacks on lgbt by religious individuals are still occurring.

    There has been no violence nor discrimination towards christians and I would not condone if there was any. In fact I would condemn such violence. How about this? I hate the belief not the believer. You christians have such a persecution complex in this country that it is astounding. If you want to know what true persecution is try living in a theocracy. Until then you should stop talk about being persecuted every time you are not allowed to put a manger on government property. You are attributing views to me that I do not hold. I never said that christians should be attacked or imprisoned which IS NOT HAPPENING. I never said persecution was ok and as I said previously what is happening now is not persecution. I am a pacifist and I find violence only morally justifiable in defense of oneself.

    who have demanded that gays and lesbians who do not vote for Barack Obama be stripped of their right to vote

    Source please.

    I care about the rights of LGBT individuals because it appears to me that denial of rights to LGBT people is the last socially acceptable form of bigotry. I care about people being hanged. I care about people having their asses super glued shut and then force fed a laxative. I care about people being beaten to death with a hammer and worrying about who they talk to lest someone report them to the authority. I worry about people that face such abuse thanks to the actions of conservatives like scott lively and co. I also care about those that are working for slave wages and exploited everyday. I care about people being prosecuted under anti-blasphemy laws.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 11:35 pm - December 27, 2013

  45. So, Lord Byron is obsessed with non-existent threats, and indifferent to real ones like the wretched state of our economy and finances, or the abuse of power by the people he supports.

    In my lifetime, I’ve attended hundreds of church services in eight states, three countries, and two continents. In all those services, I have never, ever heard anyone call for violence against gays.

    Reading of leftists calling for violence against Christians, conservatives, or Republicans is a daily event.

    Comment by V the K — December 27, 2013 @ 11:43 pm - December 27, 2013

  46. Churches should not have tax exempt status if they get into the field of politics. If you tell people who to vote for or who not to vote for then you get to lose your tax exempt status period. I do not hold every christian responsible, but I do hold responsible the organizations. The RCC is the worst offender when it comes to this, but is not alone in this.

    Again another generalization and I have called the actions under obama unconstitutional. I do not think the constitution supports the widespread collection of metadata along with the other programs involved. FYI I didn’t call for Bush to be impeached. I call torture torture and call it unconstitutional under all circumstances.

    ” by a vote of 214-30, ILGA expelled North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) and two other groups (Vereniging MARTIJN and Project Truth) in early 1994 because they were judged to be “groups whose predominant aim is to support or promote pedophilia.”

    ” You are indecent, hatemongering, amoral bigots”

    Hello pot, I’m kettle.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 11:54 pm - December 27, 2013

  47. If Lord B does not expect us to change our views, than why does he bother saying this? A sort of “I wish there could have been another way” before he sends a SWAT team through our front doors to arrest us? Liberals seem quick to embrace the distortion of Augustine of Hippo’s famous “Error has no rights.” He meant that errors should not be tolerated and should be gently corrected at the nearest opportunity. Many have interpreted that as “The erroneous have no rights,” the unfortunate attitude brought to bear to many in the Middle Ages and Renaissance.

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 27, 2013 @ 11:56 pm - December 27, 2013

  48. @ Lord_Byron: Have you ever actually attended a Mass, or do you just get your information from the Daily Kos? The Roman Catholic Church has towed that line quite well, thank you very much. Every Mass I’ve ever attended during election time has featured a homily in which the priest reminds the congregation of the Church’s stance on social issues, without naming any specific candidates to vote or not vote for, mostly because they know that secularists like yourself are itching to see the IRS strip them of their tax-exempt status. There have been some isolated cases of individual priests breaking this rule, but the priests have usually been reprimanded by their bishops. Contrast to the Black Churches, who were a constant track of “Obama! Obama!” during 2008 and 2012. Hardly a fair comparison.

    But then, I’m willing to bet that you think that priests and ministers shouldn’t remind their congregation of areas where their religion splits with the social zeitgeist on morality.

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 28, 2013 @ 12:04 am - December 28, 2013

  49. I care about people being hanged. I care about people having their asses super glued shut and then force fed a laxative. I care about people being beaten to death with a hammer and worrying about who they talk to lest someone report them to the authority.

    No, you don’t.

    Because like a good little Obama puppet, you scream and cry and defend the Palestinian Authority, Hamas, and the theocratic government of Iran for doing exactly that, and you said nothing when Saddam Hussein did it.

    And:

    I care about people being prosecuted under anti-blasphemy laws.

    Which is why you stand up and shriek about the necessity of punishing those who “slander the prophet of Islam”.

    The reason why your actions do not match your words is right here:

    I worry about people that face such abuse thanks to the actions of conservatives like scott lively and co.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 27, 2013 @ 11:35 pm – December 27, 2013

    You do not give a rat’s ass about gay people. You only use gay people as a convenient excuse to attack Christians. You are a rotten, sick, racist bigot.

    And here’s your link about how you and your sick Barack Obama Party and your GLAAD and your LGBT leadership want gays who vote against Obama to be stripped of their rights and die.

    Lastly:

    by a vote of 214-30, ILGA expelled North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) and two other groups (Vereniging MARTIJN and Project Truth) in early 1994 because they were judged to be “groups whose predominant aim is to support or promote pedophilia.”

    Which is funny, because those groups joined ILGA decades earlier and, as quoted above, were instrumental in getting ILGA to pass pro-pedophilia resolutions left and right.

    What changed?

    Oh, that’s right; Jesse Helms exposed that they were pushing pedophilia and embarrassed them, the liberal Obama Party left that was supporting them, and the United Nations.

    Had Jesse Helms not spoken up, those groups and the LGBT community would still be pushing pedophilia, as seen by the actions of Harry Hay, father and spiritual leader of gays and lesbians, who openly supported and endorsed NAMBLA as normal gay and lesbian behavior worthy of inclusion in ‘gay pride’ parades.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2013 @ 12:05 am - December 28, 2013

  50. You can also talk about attacks on gay people and women by orthodox Jews in Israel, but that goes against your narrative so I guess it doesn’t count.

    LMAO.

    You are trying to defend your support and endorsement of Hamas by blaming Jews.

    Just as you attempt to scream that Muslim atrocities of today are justified by alleged Christian atrocities of centuries ago.

    This is why you are particularly unfit for civil society, Lord_Byron. As Sean brilliantly put it, you believe that those who agree with you are right and those who disagree with you should be exterminated. You can come up with all sorts of reasons to hate Christians, but scream and cry and whine that even the worst behavior of gays and lesbians should be tolerated.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2013 @ 12:10 am - December 28, 2013

  51. There have been some isolated cases of individual priests breaking this rule, but the priests have usually been reprimanded by their bishops.

    Comment by Sean the Sharmuta — December 28, 2013 @ 12:04 am – December 28, 2013

    Even more hilarious: Lord_Byron and his fellow Obama supporters ENDORSED a Roman Catholic priest using the pulpit to push political candidates when it benefitted Barack Obama.

    Liberals like Lord_Byron are completely amoral scum. They have no sense of right and wrong, no objective values, and will say and do anything to get political power.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2013 @ 12:13 am - December 28, 2013

  52. @ Lord Byron

    Just give it up, man, and be grateful you didn’t get called a barebacking bugchaser.

    Comment by Mike Roberts — December 28, 2013 @ 1:31 am - December 28, 2013

  53. And some will say, “Well, it’s all right, because the Government isn’t doing it, it’s just a private group.” No, it’s just technically legal for a private group to do it, that doesn’t make it right.

    Aww, still butthurt about being corrected re. the definition of censorship? No one was arguing whether it was the right thing to do. In fact, it was made very clear (to those of even average intelligence) that suspending/firing Robertson was a stupid decision for A&E’s bottom line, for their hypocrisy, and in acquiescing to a vocal minority. The issue was (and still is, apparently) that A&E did not censor Robertson, in contradiction to what was posited on this site, repeatedly and erroneously. And idiotically.

    Comment by Ignatius — December 28, 2013 @ 1:38 am - December 28, 2013

  54. And another thing:

    Lady_Byron is a barebacking bugchaser!

    Comment by Jman1961 — December 28, 2013 @ 2:01 am - December 28, 2013

  55. Sean,

    I don’t care if your church wants to remind it’s followers of the religious tenants. As a side note it’s amazing how many catholics don’t accept said tenants, but that is another issue. What I don’t like is when religious leaders tell people specifically who they should vote for and who they shouldn’t. I am talking about the yearly Pulpit Freedom Sunday in which they tape themselves explicitly endorsing candidates, record it, and then send it to the irs in hopes of having their tax exempt status challenged so they can sue over not being allowed to act in politics.

    Because like a good little Obama puppet, you scream and cry and defend the Palestinian Authority, Hamas, and the theocratic government of Iran for doing exactly that, and you said nothing when Saddam Hussein did it.

    Clearly you are a troll, but to respond to your statement I do not support hamas nor any theocracy. The world would be much better in my opinion if all governments were secular, but that probably will never happen. Saddam did not persecute gay people. He gassed groups of people, but he did not attack gay people specifically for being gay. If you talk to any LGBT person in Iraq, many of whom have fled or live in safe houses, they would tell you that it was better for gays under saddam. There were no roving bands of religious fundamentalist looking to kill gay people. There was not rampant raping of gay men and trans women. Not saying things were perfect, far from it, but things were better under saddam according to many Iraqi lgbt individuals.

    That radio host was wrong and the majority of gay individuals do not want to take away the constitutional right to vote, but since you are just trolling here you will ignore that. You will also ignore the fact that your favorite ice queen, Coulter, said that all women should have their right to vote removed because they tend to vote democrat.

    Not blaming Jews for the attacks of hamas. I simply pointed out that there have been attacks on women and lgbt individuals by Jews.
    Eight Year Old Girl Attacked

    Then there is the case of three Jewish youths opening fire on a gay youth center in Tel Aviv.

    In this debate tell me which side has spawned more violent actions and hatred because I can tell you it is not mine. I do not call for people to be imprisoned, executed, tortured, castrated, hanged, whipped, cut off from society, or to have their hearts cut out and bodies burned. Conservatives have spawned the push for numerous anti-gay bills in this country and in others now and historically.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 28, 2013 @ 4:18 am - December 28, 2013

  56. @ Lord_Byron: If you are implying that Catholic priests take part in Free Pulpit Sundays, you are sadly mistaken. Catholic priests are often under explicit instructions from their bishops not to participate in these events. And what about Rev. Jeremiah Wright? He very openly campaigned for Obama in the 2012 election. So

    Comment by Sean — December 28, 2013 @ 6:32 am - December 28, 2013

  57. Perhaps I should thank Lord Byron for illustrating the point I made in the last paragraph of the post; his attitude does make civil debate in this country impossible. And he is quite proud of the fact that he is unwilling to be decent or civil toward people who disagree with him.

    Comment by V the K — December 28, 2013 @ 6:55 am - December 28, 2013

  58. Aww, still butthurt about being corrected re. the definition of censorship?

    You’re still butthurt about that? Bummer. I know I demolished your weak and pathetic and completely inaccurate argument that only the Government can censor, but you should be over the butthurt by now.

    Comment by V the K — December 28, 2013 @ 6:57 am - December 28, 2013

  59. Ah i apologize. It was James Edward who was saying offensive speech should be canned. Hate filled leftie trolls, they all sound alike to me.

    I am amused that he believes 10 year olds can marry in California, and I can own a P90.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 28, 2013 @ 9:34 am - December 28, 2013

  60. Lord_Byron @ #55:

    I simply pointed out that there have been attacks on women and lgbt individuals by Jews. Eight Year Old Girl Attacked (link)

    Then there is the case of three Jewish youths opening fire on a gay youth center in Tel Aviv.

    Why should anyone ever be surprised that one can find evidence of homophobia in any given country. What is the point?

    Lord_Byron proclaimed in the same comment that: Saddam did not persecute gay people. Period. I have no particular knowledge to the contrary, but I would hardly put Saddam on a pedestal of worship for any particular type of loving tolerance.

    But the leap from exposing homophobes in Israel to this drivel is beyond comprehension in terms of developing a point:

    In this debate tell me which side has spawned more violent actions and hatred because I can tell you it is not mine. I do not call for people to be imprisoned, executed, tortured, castrated, hanged, whipped, cut off from society, or to have their hearts cut out and bodies burned. Conservatives have spawned the push for numerous anti-gay bills in this country and in others now and historically.

    Holy Toledo, Cap’n Crunch!!! You telling me that “Conservatives have spawned the push for numerous anti-gay bills in this country and in others now and historically” which has led to a:

    call for people to be imprisoned, executed, tortured, castrated, hanged, whipped, cut off from society, or to have their hearts cut out and bodies burned.

    Lord_Byron, you got some ‘splainin’ to do.

    Obviously, from the pious perch of Lord_Byron, conservatives are the root of all evil and they are aided and abetted in their malicious, low-down, dirty rotten skunkery by their religion. I get it. That is the opinion of Lord_Byron. It is not an argument. It is a conclusion which he dares one and all to attempt to talk him down from. Why would anyone waste the time? His mind is made up and facts play no role in his opinion making.

    The Pajama Boy said this:

    “I am a Liberal Fu*k,” Krupp wrote in one post. “A Liberal Fu*k is not a Democrat, but rather someone who combines political data and theory, extreme leftist views and sarcasm to win any argument while make the opponents feel terrible about themselves.

    At least Pajama Boy knows who he is and what he is doing. Lord_Byron is just a run of the mill liberal with a drool cup.

    Comment by heliotrope — December 28, 2013 @ 11:17 am - December 28, 2013

  61. As a side note it’s amazing how many catholics don’t accept said tenants, but that is another issue.

    Yes, we all know that “Catholics” like John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and Joe Biden support infanticide like Kermit Gosnell performed, rape and sexual harassment like Bob Filner and Ted Kennedy performed, and crimes like Jon Corzine performed.

    You might note the absolute correlation between opposition to Catholicism and support of Barack Obama. It’s because Barack Obama and the Obama Party are jealous gods who will not tolerate any religious belief that does not support and endorse full governmental takeover of everything.

    I am talking about the yearly Pulpit Freedom Sunday in which they tape themselves explicitly endorsing candidates, record it, and then send it to the irs in hopes of having their tax exempt status challenged so they can sue over not being allowed to act in politics.

    Are you unfamiliar with the First Amendment, perhaps?

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    The latter is what a lawsuit IS.

    The problem here is that these churches may not be pushing Barack Obama. Were they pushing Barack Obama and the Barack Obama Party you and your Barack Obama Party would be fully endorsing them, as you already do.

    Next:

    Saddam did not persecute gay people. He gassed groups of people, but he did not attack gay people specifically for being gay. If you talk to any LGBT person in Iraq, many of whom have fled or live in safe houses, they would tell you that it was better for gays under saddam. There were no roving bands of religious fundamentalist looking to kill gay people. There was not rampant raping of gay men and trans women. Not saying things were perfect, far from it, but things were better under saddam according to many Iraqi lgbt individuals.

    LOL, yup, the ones who were screaming in 2003 how awful Iraq was and then who flip-flopped after being paid by leftists to smear George W. Bush.

    The fact that you are deluded enough to defend and endorse Saddam Hussein shows the problem.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2013 @ 11:45 am - December 28, 2013

  62. In this debate tell me which side has spawned more violent actions and hatred because I can tell you it is not mine. I do not call for people to be imprisoned, executed, tortured, castrated, hanged, whipped, cut off from society, or to have their hearts cut out and bodies burned.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 28, 2013 @ 4:18 am – December 28, 2013

    Actually, the LGBT community calls for the disenfranchisement and death of those they dislike.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2013 @ 12:07 pm - December 28, 2013

  63. And don’t forget LGBT hero Floyd Lee Corker, who acknowledged he was carrying out orders from the LGBT community to kill as many Christians as possible.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2013 @ 12:16 pm - December 28, 2013

  64. And now, let’s return to this:

    Saddam did not persecute gay people. He gassed groups of people, but he did not attack gay people specifically for being gay.

    Comment by Lord_Byron — December 28, 2013 @ 4:18 am – December 28, 2013

    Lie.

    Hili, who has a bachelor’s degree in English literature, and who used to work for Iraqi radio and television, fled to the U.K. in 2002 after having been persecuted for being gay under Saddam Hussein…..

    “In the late ‘80s and early ‘90s there were a couple of gay clubs in Baghdad,” Hili explained, “but they were all shut down in 1993 after sanctions were imposed against Saddam’s regime and Iraq. We had a weekly gay nightclub in the Palestine Hotel that became the gathering place for gay people, especially for actors and others in the entertainment world, but it, too, was shut down. I was arrested three times for being gay, and tortured. After several attempts, I finally was able to escape the country, going first to Dubai, then Jordan, then Syria, and finally reaching England.”

    And who is responsible for the activity now in Iraq, pray tell?

    The Abu Nawas Group, according to Hili, is accumulating evidence that Iranian agents are advising SCIRI and the Iranian police on how to implement anti-gay persecution. Not only has Iran’s Internet entrapment campaign targeting gays been adopted in Iraq, he said, but there are reports that Iranian agents have been involved in interrogations, questioning those arrested in Persian through translators.

    So these very same groups that are screaming about conditions in Iraq are praising and pushing Barack Obama’s Iran and the Iranian government, who are the ones driving intolerance in Iraq.

    So tell us, Lord_Byron: why do you and your fellow gay-sex bigots who scream about conditions in Iraq, Israel, and Uganda ignore Iran, Palestine, and other countries? Why do you rant and cry about Christians when you give money to and support Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, who advocate the murder of gays right here in the United States?

    Answer: Because whether or not you consider someone “homophobic” is directly correlated with whether or not they support and endorse Barack Obama and the Barack Obama Party, and has nothing in fact to do with their treatment of gays.

    You are a hypocrite, Lord_Byron. You only care about pushing Barack Obama and liberalism. You support and endorse killing gays and anti-gay rhetoric when Barack Obama needs it.

    That is backed up by facts. You have none.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2013 @ 1:54 pm - December 28, 2013

  65. And for a nice chaser, let’s point out how Lord_Byron endorses and supports raping women.

    Now, according to Lord_Byron, calling for people to be stripped of their rights, raped, and murdered is not, repeat NOT, hate speech.

    And actually heading out with a gun to shoot people, with the encouragement and support of the LGBT community and its organizations, is not a hate crime.

    For anyone else, it would be. But according to Lord_Byron, gays and lesbians like himself can call for and carry out the murder of Christians with absolutely no criminal or social constraints.

    Sick.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2013 @ 2:17 pm - December 28, 2013

  66. Link for Lord_Byron and the LGBT community, including GLAAD, endorsing and supporting rape: http://m.nydailynews.com/1.321411#bmb=1

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 28, 2013 @ 2:19 pm - December 28, 2013

  67. Lord_Byron, you say that the world would be a better place if all governments were secular, then you admit that Saddam Hussein gassed people. Saddam Hussein’s government was secular, as was Hitler’s, Stalin’s, Mao’s, Castro’s, Ho Chi Minh’s, and Hafez al Asad’s, just to name a few. Clearly, secularism does not guarantee democracy and freedom. But for you all that matters is the well-being of gay people, and so long as people aren’t imprisoned, tortured, and/or executed specifically for being gay everything is all right. And you think conservatives are warped. Physician, heal thyself.

    Comment by Seane-Anna — December 28, 2013 @ 2:45 pm - December 28, 2013

  68. Odd — isn’t this what we hear called “bullying” when targeted at folks that GLAAD and others like?

    Comment by Rhymes With Right — December 28, 2013 @ 3:47 pm - December 28, 2013

  69. I know I demolished your weak and pathetic and completely inaccurate argument that only the Government can censor…

    Nope. You’re just too small and stupid to admit you’re wrong. And too butthurt.

    Comment by Ignatius — December 28, 2013 @ 6:02 pm - December 28, 2013

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