According to Right Wing Homophobic Zealots the Centers for Disease Control, teh gheys make up <3% of the American populace.
Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay, lesbian or bisexual, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Tuesday in the first large-scale government survey measuring Americans’ sexual orientation.
The National Health Interview Survey, which is the government’s premier tool for annually assessing Americans’ health and behaviors, found that 1.6 percent of adults self-identify as gay or lesbian, and 0.7 percent consider themselves bisexual.
And yet, society must be completely restructured, traditional institutions abolished and civil liberties tossed in the rubbish bin in order accommodate this <3%.
You know, back in the old days, if 3% of a country’s population demanded major changes to the political, cultural, and civil makeup of the country, and harassed and marginalized those who opposed them, we would have called it “aristocracy.” Nowadays, we would call it “dictatorship” or “fascism.” But, since these folks like bonking people with the same hardware as them, they get a free pass. I guess it isn’t who you know, but who you do, that makes all the difference.
I have already seen posts on Facebook questioning the stat. Most indicate they think gays were afraid to answer they were gay on the survey.
Personally I’ve always thought the number around the 5% mark but a lot of gays seem wedded to 10%.
I think 5% is a fair number. The religious right stat of 2-3% isn’t right, but the gay activist 10% is a bit too much. 5% seems like the perfect estimate.
@ Just Me: The 10% statistic comes from an old study of male prison inmates. 10% of inmates reported being homosexual/bisexual. Because as we all know, prison inmates are an accurate representation of normal society.
1) when they do this kind of survey it is anonymous, therefore there is no need to ‘hide’
2) the actual number of gays can be 0.003%, what has been damaging like they are 97% is the fascist push by 100% of non-gay leftists. If it wasn’t for the totality of leftists beating their collective chest demanding fairness, justice and the rest of feet stomping they usually do when they march against people of a certain faith, you would not have this disaster
So it isn’t 3-5-10%, unfortunately it is 50% of population (all hardline leftists) making the world a worse place (90% of gays are leftists, btw). The life of the leftists is so pathetic that they invest all their time, effort, money and strength into something that does not benefit them, think about survival rights under the Ponzi scheme that is every single government retirement plan. Adding gay couples to it, including fraudulent ones, will obviously lower the amount of money the heterosexual widower gets.
More people in the pool= less money for everybody (97% of which are heterosexuals).
Leftism is a mental disease.
4. Sean L “The 10% statistic comes from an old study of male prison inmates. 10% of inmates reported being homosexual/bisexual. Because as we all know, prison inmates are an accurate representation of normal society.”
That reminds me of the Kinsey sex studies, which relied on the self-reporting of various kinds of sex criminals to make conclusions about the general population.
3. Paul “I think 5% is a fair number. The religious right stat of 2-3% isn’t right, but the gay activist 10% is a bit too much. 5% seems like the perfect estimate.”
Should we call you Goldilocks?
(sorry, I couldn’t resist the opportunity to be silly.)
But seriously, I do think 3% is a more likely number, because 1 out of 20 just seems a bit higher than my life experience supports. But of course the usual rule of thumb is to wait for lots more studies to shake out the uncertainties.
It’s worth noting that this includes older generations where many more people would be afraid of saying anything, or even just not know… 3% does seem low for that reason.
As for transgendered folks (yeah, I’m bringing myself and my group up), we’re maybe 0.3% (again taking into account the older generations not self-identifying). I’ve heard stats pointing at >=50% of us being LGB as well as T, but all I have to really go on is my own experience there.
As anyone who has taken college statistics can attest, “feels right” is the gold standard of precision.
“8.It’s worth noting that this includes older generations where many more people would be afraid of saying anything, or even just not know… 3% does seem low for that reason.”
BINGO. There are lots of closeted people who may even be too scared to answer a simple poll, not to mention other people that get lost in these kind of statistics.
I’d also like to see the methodology and the types of questions that were asked.
This statistic seems about as credible as “Women make 77 cents for every man on the dollar” or “1 in 4 women will be raped in college.”
9. V the K “As anyone who has taken college statistics can attest, ‘feels right’ is the gold standard of precision.”
…and “feels so right” is the gold standard for anything having to do with sex. 🙂
The study said 2.3%. I knew I was very very special and unique.
2.3 is closer to 2 percent than three.
And frankly closer to 0% than 10%.
I am very thankful for our trailblazers. TODAY gays have much more power than we deserve I think.
I thought it was interesting that the CDC (the very folks who coined the usefully neutral term “MSM”, for “Men who have Sex with Men”) apparently chose to couch the questions in terms of “Do you self-identify as gay?” — instead of asking, e.g., “Have you voluntarily engaged in genital contact to orgasm with a person of the same sex at least five times in the past two years?”
The phrasing of the question CAN affect the statistical results.
Not ONLY sex criminals — also men who were serving time for non-sexual offenses, but may have engaged in homosexual contact more frequently than they would have if they hadn’t been in The Big House.
From what I understand, incidentally, the original “sexual orientation” questionnaires used by Kinsey his associates asked about actual sexual contacts with actual persons of the same sex — i.e., they didn’t attempt to gather data about masturbatory fantasies. So, even though the Kinsey study may have overestimated the incidence of actual homosexual contact (by relying too much on prisoners in all-male environments), it may have simultaneously underestimated the incidence of “homosexual curiosity/desire.”
Which is to say that in the ORIGINAL Kinsey studies, a man who’d never had any real-life experiences with men OR women, but who fantasized about men (while wanking) 40 or 50 times more often than he fantasized about women, would’ve been scored as a “Kinsey Zero” — i.e., a “pure, total heterosexual”. (Despite having no real-life experience with the opposite sex, and despite showing a same-sex preference in his erotic fantasies.)
From what I’ve read, psychologists still use a version of the Kinsey Scale, but the questionnaire has been significantly modified to assess both real-life experiences and recurring patterns of fantasy.
I’m with Sean L. at #1.
Regarding the legendary “1 in 10” figure, apparently the actual claim that Kinsey made around 1948 was this:
So the ten-percent-ish figure includes men who may have gone through a “brief phase” of exclusively homosexual activity (because for one reason or another they found themselves restricted to an all-male environment), but subsequently decided that they preferred to be with women.
As I read the comments from people who can’t cope with the results of the study, I can’t help but be reminded of the Romney people in 2012 insisting that the polls were wrong and he was going to win. “They polled the wrong people!” “They asked the wrong questions!”
The question that comes to my mind is, “Are the accommodations demanded by the Gay <3% substantially more burdensome than, say, the real (yet negligibly small!) surcharge that voluntary kosher certification adds to the price of mainstream grocery products?”
(The short answer to that question would be: Some of the Accommodations for “the Gay <3%" are arguably commensurate with the very trivial cost to food manufacturers of getting their products kosher-approved — but many of the Accommodations being demanded are much more burdensome.)
Why is this news? I’ve known this for over a year now.
You have got to be kidding me if you think the number of MSM who don’t identify as gay/bisexual isn’t huge.
*denial*
I am not surprised with the numbers nor I am surprised with the reactions from the MSM and perpetually outraged leftist groups. What a lot of people don’t understand or tend to ignore is this, the reason why the LGBT population appears more than they really are is this. Most of the LGBT community live and work on major cities like New York, Chicago, LA, San Francisco, Miami and Washington DC and the surrounding environs and these cities tend to be major media, political and influence centers of the country and of the world. That creates an illusion that is constantly reinforced by the national media, advocacy groups and the web that there are much more people that embraced LGBT lifestyle when in truth, the numbers they were touting does not jive in real life.