OK, so, throughout my life, I have attended well over a thousand Christian Services. I’ve attended churches in the Methodist, Baptist, Roman Catholic, Presbyterian, Seventh-Day Adventist, Episcopalian, Lutheran, non-Denominational, and LDS denominations. I have attended churches in eight states, four countries, and two continents. Never, ever… in any of those services… has any religious authority exerted that it is a Christian Imperative to murder or abuse gay people.
Yet, according to the progressive left Salon website, that’s exactly what Christianity is all about.
The Bible’s clobber verses may be open to interpretation, but the fact that those verses have caused centuries of suffering is not. For much of American history, the common term for queer was the biblical “sodomite,” implying that gays are so offensive to God that they pose a threat to society as a whole. Thanks to Christian missionaries, African and Latin American queers also have now lived for centuries now under the threat of violent death. As progressive Anglican Gay Clark Jennings observes, “There is no getting around the Bible when searching for the origins of the homophobia that is rampant in many African cultures. What’s more, Europeans and North Americans bear much of the historical responsibility for this sad state of affairs.”
No, Salon, the fact is, lots of Christians support gays and lots of Secular Atheists hate them. Hatred … and I mean real hatred of gay people not legitimate disagreement with the gay left agenda but real visceral hatred … has nothing to do with Christianity, and everything to do with the fact that some people find hypersexualized gay people obnoxious and buttsecks disgusting.
I think Salon has confused Christians with Muslims. Just saying.
Wow, thanks Salon! I should have realized that all of those Christian denominations that permit gay marriage, gay priests, etc. secretly hate gay people! You’re amazing!
Meanwhile, a Muslim emir tried to chop off the hand of somebody in his congregation for a misdeed that hardly merited the punishment. Not in Islamabad, but Philadelphia. And the Lefties are silent. Stupidity, cowardice, or collusion? You decide.
I’m with you V the K. I have never heard hatred preached against people in Christian churches, and I’ve been in a couple of denominations in various places too. The only ones who claim to be Christian that preach hate, so far as I can tell, are the Westboro Baptist Crowd, and they are looked on with horror by almost everyone else. “Love the sinner, hate the sin” is the guide of most Christians who oppose homosexuality.
I think the ultra-liberals team up with the Muslims thinking that a) they can tear down traditional society together faster and b) well, there is no b. Fools, as they are doing the same as tying themselves to the devil.
(I’m not saying that there are not virtuous Muslims, just that the politically active ones usually are narrow-minded and fanatical to the point of excluding all reason. There are virtuous liberals as well, but they also seem to be awfully narrow-minded these days, despite the linguistic origins of the word “liberal”.)
By the way, that Onion link is too close to the truth for many, I think.
Whoever the author was, they’re taking the perspective from a typical young gay; who’s needy & blames others for not accepting them. In the way that so many teenagers blame everyone for “not getting them”.
To stereotype religion & society in general is a non-starter in the first place. An invalid & useless exercise. A refuge for the weak who need everyone to love them, in order to survive.
Salon will forever pander juvenile thought processes.
VtheK, your attendance to so many diverse xtian denominations, is amazing.
Gays are far more obsessed with worrying about how much Christians may oppose them than Christians do.
Only occasionally have I heard the issue of homosexuality brought up in a sermon-could probably count on my two hands the number of times in my 40+ years of church attendance.
Those few times not once did my pastor encourage me to kill homosexuals or support their killing.
You know who does kill gay people? Muslims.
Sean L.:
“Stupidity, cowardice, or collusion?”
These aren’t mutually exclusive. The erwachsenekinder (Hah! I coined a word) who hold the Progressive worldview have let their desire to discomfit their parent analogs (Republicans) become pathological. Anything, even the maiming and killing of other people, is OK as long as it satisfies their immature rebellious impulses.
I am a practising Catholic and I have never heard one anti-gay message, especially any suggestions that some of the most obnoxious individuals should be killed. I have no idea where Salon got that idea.
With regard to the Scripture, the lesson regarding Sodom and Gommorah is not the sexuality but the way in which those people treated strangers to the towns. The inhabitants were intent upon abusing those strangers when their world was ended.
In the UK gays where marching with the rainbow flag near the front of the protest against the jihadists that beheaded a soldier in broad daylight. Some gay areas have been encroached by Muslims trying to enforce sharia(beating gays).
If you think someone is a good muslim ask them if they would like sharia law enforced in the US. They will say yes and that means beheading gays and raping 6yo non muslim girls. Taqiyya & Kitman the rules for lying to promote Islam. Al hijra is the commandment to rape/enslave non muslims & these are things Moo ham mad did himself. The moderate one wants the extremist one to kill you.
A joke that pisses off the leftists.
Why do muslims stone gays to death and mutilate little girls genitals? When Moo ham mads oldest wife hit puberty he realized the gays where right about his Willy being smaller than what is now cut off girls.
Thank you for being so forthright and stand out via your views VtheK. I love reading your stuff… keep it up brother.
What is odd is that hypersexualization of heterosexuality is JUST as shunned by Christianity and most other people.
I do so love when the criminal and borderline psychotic within the homosexual bisexual community project and prevaricate.
“Salon: Christianity=”Killing Queers””……..does this idiot actually believe no one will respond to his violent and borderline confrontational behavior? Sale old, same old……….borderline confrontational behavior immediately reverting to passive-aggression
Craig-good point.
I have heard far more sermons/messages on marriage and relationships than I have on homosexuality.
The truth is that Christians for the most part are more focused on their own spiritual growth than who is sleeping with who and whether the Bible approves.
Salon seems to be the one with the anti stance it is so trying to blame on christians. I mean the very utter fact they put christianity = killing gays is singling out an entire group. If someone said homosexuality = killing Christians well than the left would be screaming bloody murder and demand the person be thrown in prison and lose al their livelihood. Salon instigation much?
“The truth is that Christians for the most part are more focused on their own spiritual growth than who is sleeping with who and whether the Bible approves.” You’re right, Just Me, and that’s the main reason the gay left has gotten as powerful in modern culture as it has. I believe you meant your statement as a compliment, but it’s really an indictment of today’s Christians.