The Europeans are doomed, by their own willful blindness and stupidity.
I might not vote for her party’s candidates, but if I were French I’d vote for Marine LePen in the next Presidential French Election.
Kevinsays
The French are lost.
Gregsays
They threatened to burn gay people. I see nothing wrong here. Je suis Charlie wasn’t a march about free speech, it was a march for secularism and opposition to fanaticism.
Stevesays
It doesn’t help that most gays are ultra leftists. Many are too stupid to realize the alternative to a Christian Europe is a flooded with savage moslem one that lacks running water. All those who hate western civilization need kicked out like one group has 200+ times in history. No need for taxes to support those in favor of the destruction of civilization. http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/01/anti-europeanists.html?showComment=1422116415878#c7586276797730565538
“Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won’t be able to atone for.”
James Edwardsays
This is a conservative website, and you think it’s an injustice that statements like “let’s burn the gays on…“ and “gays must die because…” were punished.
No wonder you guys won’t condemn acts of violence and calls for violence against gays evil. You all support it.
But yes V and everyone else, Christian Conservatives don’t hate gays or wish them harm. Riiiiiiiiight.
If you really love and support free speech, that must include supporting the right of people to say things that offend you or hurt your feelings.
Supporting that right is not the same as supporting the speech itself, dumbass.
If you don’t support that right, you’re against free speech.
James Edwardsays
and if you won’t condemn said speech as evil or wrong, its easy to infer you support the content of the speech.
Ted B. (Charging Rhino)says
The Left doesn’t care about free speech, just “correct speech”. It’s no wonder that collectivism, fascism, socialism and communism are all creatures of the Left.
Mr. Edward and his comrade Priya Lynn have already made it clear; they want the state to control and censor speech so gay people’s feelings won’t get hurt. (And they will decide what is “hurtful”)
Ignatiussays
Are the tweeters Islamic, perchance?
Throbert McGeesays
I don’t see an inherent contradiction here with the Charlie Hebdo case.
“Kill the gays” isn’t analogous to “Your prophet was a retard”; it’s analogous to “Kill the Muslims” — a direct call for mob violence that Charlie Hebdo did NOT make.
If the tweeters had been busted for saying “Harvey Milk was a retard,” THAT would be something analogous to what Charlie Hebdo actually published, and it would be hypocritical for French law to punish the “homophobes” while upholding the primacy of free speech with regard to the Hebdo cartoons.
P.S. The question of whether the anti-gay hashtags in actual fact met the French legal threshold/test for “direct incitement to violence not covered by freedom of speech” is a separate one — but many countries with free-speech protection, including ours, recognize that such a threshold exists somewhere.
Throbert McGeesays
P.P.S. Regarding Ignatius’s question about the religion of the tweeters — yes, I’d call it a safe bet in Vegas that the hashtag-authors would insist on their own free-speech rights to use #letsburngays, while simultaneously denying other French citizens their right to “insult” the fabulous Mr. PBUH.
By the way, I hereby call copyright on “the fabulous Mr. PBUH” in case anyone wants to market a line of T-shirts. Although, come to think of it, maybe “Mr. SAW” [i.e., the Arabic equivalent of “PBUH”] would be more apt…
(Though maybe we shouldn’t give ISIS any ideas about reverse-bear-trap masks.) anyone?
The Europeans are doomed, by their own willful blindness and stupidity.
I might not vote for her party’s candidates, but if I were French I’d vote for Marine LePen in the next Presidential French Election.
The French are lost.
They threatened to burn gay people. I see nothing wrong here. Je suis Charlie wasn’t a march about free speech, it was a march for secularism and opposition to fanaticism.
It doesn’t help that most gays are ultra leftists. Many are too stupid to realize the alternative to a Christian Europe is a flooded with savage moslem one that lacks running water. All those who hate western civilization need kicked out like one group has 200+ times in history. No need for taxes to support those in favor of the destruction of civilization.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/01/anti-europeanists.html?showComment=1422116415878#c7586276797730565538
“Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won’t be able to atone for.”
This is a conservative website, and you think it’s an injustice that statements like “let’s burn the gays on…“ and “gays must die because…” were punished.
No wonder you guys won’t condemn acts of violence and calls for violence against gays evil. You all support it.
But yes V and everyone else, Christian Conservatives don’t hate gays or wish them harm. Riiiiiiiiight.
If you really love and support free speech, that must include supporting the right of people to say things that offend you or hurt your feelings.
Supporting that right is not the same as supporting the speech itself, dumbass.
If you don’t support that right, you’re against free speech.
and if you won’t condemn said speech as evil or wrong, its easy to infer you support the content of the speech.
The Left doesn’t care about free speech, just “correct speech”. It’s no wonder that collectivism, fascism, socialism and communism are all creatures of the Left.
Mr. Edward and his comrade Priya Lynn have already made it clear; they want the state to control and censor speech so gay people’s feelings won’t get hurt. (And they will decide what is “hurtful”)
Are the tweeters Islamic, perchance?
I don’t see an inherent contradiction here with the Charlie Hebdo case.
“Kill the gays” isn’t analogous to “Your prophet was a retard”; it’s analogous to “Kill the Muslims” — a direct call for mob violence that Charlie Hebdo did NOT make.
If the tweeters had been busted for saying “Harvey Milk was a retard,” THAT would be something analogous to what Charlie Hebdo actually published, and it would be hypocritical for French law to punish the “homophobes” while upholding the primacy of free speech with regard to the Hebdo cartoons.
P.S. The question of whether the anti-gay hashtags in actual fact met the French legal threshold/test for “direct incitement to violence not covered by freedom of speech” is a separate one — but many countries with free-speech protection, including ours, recognize that such a threshold exists somewhere.
P.P.S. Regarding Ignatius’s question about the religion of the tweeters — yes, I’d call it a safe bet in Vegas that the hashtag-authors would insist on their own free-speech rights to use #letsburngays, while simultaneously denying other French citizens their right to “insult” the fabulous Mr. PBUH.
By the way, I hereby call copyright on “the fabulous Mr. PBUH” in case anyone wants to market a line of T-shirts. Although, come to think of it, maybe “Mr. SAW” [i.e., the Arabic equivalent of “PBUH”] would be more apt…
(Though maybe we shouldn’t give ISIS any ideas about reverse-bear-trap masks.) anyone?