Isn’t it interesting how the ginned-up outrage over Indiana’s Religious Freedom Law has completely driven coverage of Hillary’s email scandal and Obama’s “Neville Chamberlain Goes to Teheran” Act out of the news?
The Internet home for American gay conservatives.
This isn’t about ginning up outrage.
You want people to believe this isn’t about discrimination, yet you defiantly refuse to condemn Christians who call for the murder of gay people.
You allow Christians on this blog to call gay people pedophiles.
Conservatives praise Putin and Russia.
Please explain in light of that why members of the LGBT community should believe this isn’t about legalizing discrimination?
“Conservatives praise Putin and Russia?”
Bull.
Shit.
And I’ve never seen a Conservative yet who wouldn’t condemn calls for murder or REAL discrimination.
@ Zoe M
Palin, Giuliani, Buchanan, and Mike Rogers have all praise Putin.
http://articles.latimes.com/2014/mar/07/nation/la-na-tt-conservatives-admiration-for-putin-20140306
@ Zoe M
When has any Conservative condemned Steven Anderson, Scott Esk, and/or Matt McLaughlin
Right here right now, James. Anyone calling for the death of LGBT individuals is nuts.
Fact is most conservatives havent even heard of these people. Because they are neither significant or representative.
And as for “praising Putin” — seriously? No. Drawing contrast between Obama’s weakness and Putin’s global strength is no more praise than saying Hitler was powerful during WWII. Idiot.
Pervert James Edward just never learns, does he?
Here is Dan Savage calling for murder.
Here is Michelangelo Signorile calling for murder.
And here is James Edward’s personal hero Floyd Lee Corkins admitting to terrorism and murder against Christians because the LGBT community’s rhetoric told him to do it.
Has Pervert James Edward ever condemned any of these?
Has Pervert James Edward ever followed his own rules that say if you don’t condemn these, you support them?
So what we see here is Pervert James Edward screaming and throwing a hissy fit demanding that other people do what he won’t.
Pervert James Edward, of course, won’t answer. He’ll just scream and flap his arms some more, making it clear that he’s a little terrorist and prick with nothing to do but antagonize people.
So essentially the only thing that is keeping this prick and terrorist alive and functioning is the goodwill of people who he is screaming at and berating as evil.
How long do you think that’s going to last?
Steven Anderson is a pastor, whose flock support him.
Scott Esk was a Tea Party candidate
Matt McLaughlin is a California lawyer who attended George Mason University.
These people are evil. No conservative is willing to say as much.
Putin is evil and his laws are evil. No conservative is willing to say as much.
Palin, Giuliani, Buchanan, and Mike Rogers all refer to Putin as a real leader. No conservative has condemned them for say as such.
People on this blog call gay people pedophiles. The blog owners VtK and ILC won’t condemn it.
So please explain why members of the LGBT community should believe this isn’t a backdoor way to legalized discrimination?
And here comes ND30 to give more evidence to my point.
In his eyes gay people are perverts.
Yet we’re suppose to believe this law isn’t about discriminating against gays
Oh, the pervert comes back for more.
You want people to believe this isn’t about discrimination, yet you defiantly refuse to condemn Christians who call for the murder of gay people.
So what?
You got three examples of gay leaders calling for murder and all you did was scream louder.
Well, we can outscream you, brat, any day of the week and twice on Tuesdays.
You yelled that if you don’t condemn behavior, you support it.
Well, here’s examples of how you refuse to condemn gays who sexually molest teens and RAPE TODDLERS.
So you by your own standards ARE a pervert and pedophile, James Edward.
And of course you scream, froth at the mouth, and throw yourself rolling around on the floor because you are a child, a mentally-sick and perverted child who is attacking people who are your social, intellectual, and moral betters in every single respect.
That has nothing to do with being LGBT. WE are LGBT. YOU are nothing but a sick and psychotic child with abysmal anti-social behaviors who thinks your sexual orientation entitles you to respect, money and power you didn’t earn.
You are a weakling, James Edward. And like all weaklings, you are cruel and vindictive. You cannot succeed because you are weak and lazy, so you intend to force those of us who can to carry you.
It isn’t happening. You are nothing, a pervert, a pedophile, a screaming imbecilic child whose only gift to offer the world is his sexual orientation — and it ain’t worth squat.
In case you haven’t noticed NDT, we’re winning.
Gay Marriage is going to happen. Indiana is going to back down.
You can gay people pedophiles all you want. You can advocate the murder of gay people. You can refuse to condemn these actions and all the while believe that it will help you succeed, but it won’t and it hasn’t. In fact its these actions which have caused people on the fence to join our side. It is because of these actions that Apple, Wal-Mart, NASCAR on and on have condemned this bill and demanded its repeal.
So please continue to call me and gay people pedophiles. Continue to refuse to condemn people who advocate murder of gay people. It has only and will only make us stronger.
Just don’t expect us to believe you don’t hate us and that this bill isn’t about discrimination.
Gay marriage is going to happen. But Indiana isn’t backing down.
Because America still has rules in place to preserve religious liberty, and that liberty is JUST as important as the Left’s freedom to marry.
You don’t get to trample others’ rights. Neither you nor any leftist governor or leftist corporate goon.
And no amount of (to borrow a phrase) ginned up controversy – or outright lies for sympathy – will change the mind of the Supreme Court.
You’re staring down another Hobby Lobby case, James Edward. Now tell me — how exactly did that one turn out? Did the Left get to define what it meant to practice Christianity? In a situation where nothing but pride and morality was at stake?
I thought not.
Same will happen here. It’s inevitable.
Washington State, Connecticut, SF, Apple, Wal-Mart etc… are all the reasons why this will be short lived. Even if it isn’t 62 percent of 18-29 year olds oppose this law.
You lot advocate our murder, you call us pedophiles, and you support discrimination against us and somehow our allies and us are the tyrants? That’s even more reason why we’re eventually going to win. You can’t and won’t disassociate yourself against people like ND30, Steven Anderson, Scott Esk, and/or Matt McLaughlin.
I already did. Idiot. I disassociated myself from those individuals I’d never even heard of.
And for the record, you have yet to disassociate yourself from the Chick Fil A shooter; or any of the other LGBT individuals listed above who advocated murder – or the massive number of wicked, wicked people attempting to force Christians to live by and adhere to secular morality in the public square.
Log, splinter. I took my splinter out. YOUR TURN, you rat fink.
Uh huh, James Edward.
That’s why you’re sitting here screaming and pissing.
You are failing, You can’t win and you know it, which is why you are turning to terror tactics.
You are a failure, pervert James Edward. Moreover, you are driving more and more people to realize that you are a fascist, a pervert, a liar. People see that the liar Tim Cook is using slave labor in China and selling into countries like Iran that murder gays. The hypocrisy and lies and rank hatred that you have is now in everyone’s face.
You were never a worthwhile person, James Edward. You have what you have because people were willing to compromise and tolerate. Now they’ve figured out the same courtesy won’t be extended to them, that a cruel and vindictive weakling like yourself intends to crush them and their beliefs, and that there is in fact no decency whatsoever in you.
You obsess about murder and discrimination because those are your fantasies. People now see that fully and that the choice for them is to kill or be killed, because you have no restraint and WILL kill them if given the opportunity.
How do you think you’re going to come out in that one, pervert?
If you truly believe that gay marriage and gay equality aren’t coming then in addition to being a hate filled monster your delusional.
You think calling gay people perverts and worthless is going to advance your cause but you simply don’t get that it is the reason why you are losing.
Continue to support violence against gays all you want. Continue to support discrimination against gays all you want. We have the press, big business, state governments and most importantly the youth of America support us. We are winning. The least you could do is not lie about your intentions or dismiss outrage as being “ginned-up.” Then again coming from you lot I shouldn’t expect anything better.
@Zoe M
I don’t want a cake from a homophobe. Until Christian Conservatives stop advocating for the murder of gay people, until gay people aren’t fired from their jobs, until people like NDT don’t make up the majority of your ranks, we won’t trust bill like this.
@James Edward: Your ignorance is shining through. You know NOTHING about the Right — all you do is rant and rail about an imagined bogeyman. You’re not the conquering hero, and we’re not an evil army. You’re just another angry loser on the Internet casting aspersions upon the innocent.
Still screaming and pissing, pervert James Edward?
The more you berate people, the more they see what a loser you are, a cruel useless weakling, a lazy child.
Zoe is spot on. You imagine persecution because your own sick and twisted mind is filled with vengeance and cruelty. And what Christians and conservatives have realized is that weaklings and cowards like you leave people like Muslims who punch back and ACTUALLY kill gays alone.
Christians can either continue to take the abuse of gay bigots like yourself or start treating you like Muslims do.
What do you think the logical answer is, pervert James Edward?
And the funny part is how the pervert James Edward tried to troll Hot Air and got his rear thoroughly kicked.
Nailed it. These people know that the pervert James Edward, the worthless lying pervert and pedophile James Edward, is not capable of living in a civilized society. They know James Edward is a pervert and pedophile and coward, and they punched back and sent him howling away.
That’s what is happening, pervert James Edward. People are punching back, and they are punching back harder — and they will not stop punching because they know the only choice is to kill or be killed.
If the actions of one are applied to the many.. Leftists lose.. Big time..All leftists are thugs, robbers and mass killers. All leftists support child rape – Polanski, Dan Savage. All leftists support trashing the Constitution – Clinton, Obama. All leftists support killing of gay people – Obama and Clinton’s support of Islamic regimes. All leftist support left – Elizabeth Warren.
James Edwards gets my sympathy. Someone who is so stuck in the middle school years must be living a very sorry excuse of a life.
Putin makes Obama look like a sniveling mama’s boy but Putin is now hero. The minister who calls for the death of gays is no man of God. The lawyer calling for death to gay people is an attention getting money whore. Happy now? We will await your condemnation of the left for all the above sins. I will not, however, hold me breathe.
James Edward @ #10:
Finally! I have been waiting for James Edward to drop his fascination with minor outliers in the backwaters of American society.
Read his words: HE IS GOING TO TAKE ON RADICAL ISLAM !!!!
Please send me your address so that I can send you funds to help you gird your loins as you march off to war. James Joan Edward of LGBT has had enough. Go get ’em James. Strap a shotgun to your ultralight and take them out.
Back to the topic, i.e. Indiana, make no mistake, this law was directly aimed at the gay/lesbian community. No matter how much they try to back peddle, the intent was to give business the legal right to refuse service. I’m no radical, but have watched in dismay as radicals from both sides of the issue fight this out. The bottom line is that Brian Bosma and Mike Pence are really bad politicians who have tried to pull a fast one and now find themselves in way over their heads without the political smarts to figure a way out. Sadly, the good people of Indiana are suffering for it. And don’t say we deserve it because we voted them in, our choices of late have been dismal.
Nope, it gives people a defense of conscience John. There’s this thing called the first amendment.
Of course, I’ll pose Ace’s question, and watch you dodge it.
“If a minority of bakers refuses services to gay weddings, what actual damage befalls gays? There are still many, many more bakers who will bake them their cakes. So what is the actual harm?”
Does anyone else find it funny that self-admitted PAedophile James Edwards is now whining that someone is saying “all gays are paedophiles” When it’s him making statements that the actions of one mean the entire group is culpable in the same thread?
self-admitted Paedophile James Edwards must be upset that someone is taking his broad brush and painting gay men with it. Since I’ve never done that, I don’t know who the self-admitted paedophile is talking about.
🙂
Dear John in Indy: When you’re staring down utter defeat but still want to survive, you really have only two options: Surrender, or agree to a truce.
You never take a ridiculous offensive tact. Not if you want to see another sunrise.
So why do you imagine this was built to enable discrimination of a Westboro variety? Why do you assume the good people of Indiana are acting out of anything but self-defense?
The Religious Right KNOWS they’re going to lose on this issue. They’re like a child on a family trip to Target whose parents said “No” when he asked them if they would buy him a toy. The parents are getting close to the checkout line, just as we’re winning more equality victories. The child knows he won’t get his toy, but he thinks one strategy might help him. He starts jumping up and down, kicking, screaming, crying, and throwing a fit, hoping his parents will surrender and buy him the toy. That’s what the religious extremists around the country are doing. They’re throwing tantrums of their own, trying to pass these bills hoping it will stem the tide. Hint: IT WON’T.
It MUST. Because equality needs to stop when both sides are equal
Paul, what kind of problems do you have that you have to force Christians to bake you a cake?
And since you are so petty that you obsess over forcing Christians to bake you a cake, what should make us think you are going to stop with cake and not go after churches?
And even better, why are you and your fellow petty gay bigots not trolling Muslim bakeries to force them to do your bidding?
THAT is what these laws are about. They are about people who are screaming and throwing tantrums like toddlers, yes, but those are the people like YOU.
From above, a perfect description of you:
Maybe because Muslims tend to stick to their ethnic enclaves and don’t assimilate and integrate with the greater populace? How can we sue Muslim bakers when Muslims are segregated in their own ethnic ghettos like in Europe?
I praise Putin for knowing how to deal with savage moslems that behead gays even in the US, you know about the 3 guys that lived next door to the Boston Marathon brothers don’t you? I praise Putin for not using my gay tax dollars to import more 3rd world savage moslems like the one that burned down the Seattle gay bar last year, or Mohamed Ali Brown that serial killed gays in 3 states due to the likes of Bath House Barry abusing my wallet.
The other Steve that posts here & picks up drunk STR8 boys at the railroad tracks can tell you that I stopped an old geezer with white hair from date raping him who slipped something in his drink. So I get why someone like J.E. doesn’t like me.
This explains that its cowardice that makes leftists the way they are.
“If you are a K, fighting to protect your own is just what you do, and death comes with time to all.
Rabbits are different. Invade their house, and they will capitulate. Grab their wife to beat, rape, and kill her, and they will cower in corner obediently, hopeful you will confine your assault and murder solely to their spouse and children”~Vox Day
So, Paul, your stated goal: force Christians onto a designated enclave where nobody has to see them, while secular humanists run the country???
How very nazi of you.
“Maybe because Muslims tend to stick to their ethnic enclaves and don’t assimilate and integrate with the greater populace? ”
Why can’t two men holding hands walk into an Islamic ghetto and ask a baker to make them a wedding cake?
Your comment makes it sound like the Christians sought out the gay wedding couple and not the other way around. In all of the cases of gay couples asking Christians to supply photos and cakes, there have been gay ghettos with lots of gay people eager for the business. Your point is pointless.
“So, Paul, your stated goal: force Christians onto a designated enclave where nobody has to see them, while secular humanists run the country???
How very nazi of you.”
That’s what you wanted to do to gay people.
Gay people have been horribly treated by Christians for the past 2,000 years. Gay people have been murder, put in camps, excluded from society, fired from their jobs, kicked out of their families. Never once have Christians even admitted to these horrible acts let alone apologize for them.
Conservatives call gay people pedophiles and perverts and you applaud them.
Now gay people are finally getting some semblance of equal rights and Conservatives are losing it.
You have the audacity to call us Nazi’s when you have people like NDT and The_livewire on your side?
James is stomping his feet and screaming. Time for a time out.
You really don’t get it do you? So, a Christian today is responsible for Christians 2000 years ago?
You seem to think you are the bigger person. You go first
Condemn all Islamic people as gay murders.
Yes, Tnns, he really does. Which is what makes the self-admitted paedophile’s rants funnier. Since he admits that he’s a paedophile and shouldn’t be allowed around children, as Harry Hay was pro-child buggering.
Of course, if the self-admitted paedophile stopped and thought, he’d realize he’s describing what happened to lefties throughout history, but we sinister people didn’t whine, we adapted and thrived. All without government help.
Congratulations, Paul @27. You’ve made it quite clear that you are nothing less than a FASCIST.
Directly calling an individual person a paedophile without any proof based on some kind of Alinsky tactic is kind of gross tbh. Especially when the commenter is using what could be his real name. I was targeted by another commenter here in the same manner. It kind of makes me feel ill anytime I see it. I know this isn’t about my feelings, but still …
Most people would be turned off by this, and not take your argument very seriously. So, even from a reasoning point-of-view, ultimately, I’m not sure if it’s worth it.
What’s your endgame? To make him go away? To make him change his ways? I doubt either is going to happen.
Just my two bits.
@ Bastiat Fan: The gay rights movement got a taste of power in the 70s. They liked it. They’ve been working to get more. And they are ready for payback against anybody who reminds them of their abusers.
Power corrupts. The high-heels got traded in for jack boots.
Dear James: I’m bi. Also trans*. I want nothing bad for gay people. But I value others’ liberty as much as my own — something you could learn a bit about. No — make that a lot about.
Now, as for past events: WHAT THE HELL MAKES YOU THINK THE INJUSTICES OF PAST PEOPLE GIVE YOU ANY RIGHT TO INFLICT INJUSTICES OF YOUR OWN, YOU BIGOT???
@Zoe M
The gay teenagers bullied to the point in which they killed themselves. The gay people who have lost their jobs? Conservatives who still call gay people pedophiles what about justice for them? Is is simply the case that if any amount of time has elapsed they are no longer responsible?
Gay people have been attacked for 2000 years by Christian Conservatives. They are still being attacked by Christian Conservatives. They refuse to stop their attacks, they refuse to apologize for the lost jobs, and suicides they encouraged. They refuse to stop calling gay people pedophiles. Yet when gay people stand up and say NO MORE, and NEVER AGAIN, gay people are the bigots and are the ones taking away rights.
Well what about the rights of gay teens to not be bullied. What about the rights of gay employees not to be fired. What about the rights of gay people to not be slandered?
Jimmy Eddie, those gay teens who killed themselves? They were responsible for their own actions, nobody else is. Nearly every culture in the history of mankind has ostracized and persecuted practicing homosexuals. Why do you keep picking on Christians? Daddy issues? Or is it psychological projection?
James – YOU CAN TALK ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE THE RIGHTS TO NOT GET FIRED, OR BULLIED, WHEN YOU STOP GETTING PEOPLE FIRED AND BULLYING PEOPLE!
I have had it with your simpering, whinging, un-self aware, SANCTIMONIOUS BS. You don’t deserve to be ANYONE’S spokesperson. You’re defending an angry mob – an angry mob howling for innocent blood. ANSWER FOR YOUR SIDE’S CRIMES before you come after my parents’ parents for their views.
I’m done with you.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/04/01/story-about-1st-business-to-publicly-vow-to-reject-gay-weddings-was-fabricated-out-of-nothing/
Those poor restauranteurs. I have no words. Only incandescent fury at the scoundrels responsible.
@Zoe M
Why is it that we need to back down first? Why is okay for Christian Conservatives to bully us, attack us, get us fired but we can’t do the same?
You have sympathy for the restaurant owners who closed their restaurant because of death threats, yet those people have no sympathy for the gay teens who took their life because they we’re bullied.
If as your friend believes that the gay teens who killed themselves are responsible for their actions and their bullies are blameless, why are gay right activists to blame for the restaurant deciding to close their doors. Why aren’t they “responsible for their own actions, nobody else is?”
What about the innocent blood of all those killed directly or indirectly by Christian Conservatives?
Zoe said: “So, Paul, your stated goal: force Christians onto a designated enclave where nobody has to see them, while secular humanists run the country???
How very nazi of you.”
Nice FOX News-style spin. The point of my Muslim post is that Muslims tend to stick to their own. They refuse to assimilate into our melting pot like other immigrants have. So, if they’re all congregated in their neighborhoods, how the hell are gays supposed to sue them unless they happen to stumble upon their neighborhood one day?
I have no desire to ever visit a Muslim neighborhood. Hearing what goes on in Dearborn, Michigan and East London is enough for me to never want to visit one of those hellholes.
You have sympathy for the restaurant owners who closed their restaurant because of death threats, yet those people have no sympathy for the gay teens who took their life because they we’re bullied.
Comment by James Edward — April 2, 2015 @ 12:14 am – April 2, 2015
Perhaps the pervert and pedophile James Edward forgets that he himself tells gay teens who happen to be conservative to kill themselves.
Indeed, the evidence is strong that perverts like James Edward rape and sexually molest teenagers who then go on to kill themselves. So THEY are the ones causing the suicides with their perversion.
No, it’s about your concern-trolling to protect your pedophile friend who is running around screaming that everyone here is a Nazi who wants to kill gay people.
What makes you a troll, CrayCray, is the obvious fact that you are mentally and morally incapable of holding yourself or any other liberal to the rules you demand of conservatives. You are a con artist who depends on peoples’ politeness to survive.
We all know the con. You are a lying, pathetic shill and troll. And thus no one cares what you say because we know you are a liar who will say whatever you want to get your way, just like your sh*t Harry Reid.
I don’t really care to get my way. But you should reflect on your tactics. Have they ever worked? You’ve got politics in your blood. You should know that when one tactic doesn’t work, you need to adopt a different one for optimal success. Or do you enjoy rotting in failure?
It’s like you’re at a podium and need a step stool to reach the mic. Go get one!
“So, if they’re all congregated in their neighborhoods, how the hell are gays supposed to sue them unless they happen to stumble upon their neighborhood one day?”
Another clueless liberal.. Every case of a Christian not willing to perform a service for a gay wedding was targeted by the gay couple because the service provider was Christian. Hell, some of them even shopped around to find Christians who wouldn’t perform the service. So, again, I ask you why haven’t they targeted Islamic bakeries? Your buddy James screams and moans about Christians killing young gayen. Well, I would venture to say more young gay men have been killed by other gay men not revealing their HIV status or by the current market of condomnless porn.
Interesting how craycray admonishes others for using exactly the same tactic as James. Can you imagine the liberal outcry if all conservatives played as dirty as liberals do? Black guy shoots white cop in Boston.. White people think this a a dandy time to burn black owned businesses. Ya think?
Yes, I noted Vince is unwilling to call out the self-admitted paedophile, but condemns holding him to his own standards.
here’s a hint Vince, the only person who would call you a paedophile without proof, is James Edwards.
“Maybe because Muslims tend to stick to their ethnic enclaves and don’t assimilate and integrate with the greater populace?”
As I pointed out here Columbus Ohio beclowns you.
I notice you couldn’t reply to that reality then, just like Zoe calling you out on wanting Christians in the ghetto got under your skin.
“Those people” – James Edward
“You people” – every stereotype of a racist ever
I rest my case.