A pizza shop owner made the mistake of saying publicly that they didn’t care to be forced into catering a gay wedding. The left-wing MFM ginned up a fake story about a pizza shop that refused to cater gay weddings. Within a day, death threats… including a threat of arson from a public school teachers … forced the pizza shop to close.
And the gay left celebrated how effective they have become in their bullying.
Some will say, “It’s just words; there’s no actual threat of violence.” As we have seen, it didn’t take long for chants of “What do we want? Dead Cops” to become actual dead cops. The road from threats of violence against Christians to actual violence against Christians is also a short one; particular when the media and the culture are cheering it on. “It’s just the market at work,” say the socialists; because, obviously, death, violence, and arson threats are just part of the invisible hand of free enterprise.
The gay left has decided that Christians do not have rights. They have no right to refuse to participate in gay weddings. They have no right to even express opposition to gay marriage. Once it gets decided that certain people can have rights taken away from them by those who have power, violence follows inevitably.
Just imagine, for a second, if a gay-owned business had been forced to close because Christians threatened to burn it down and murder its employees.
The gay left has become the KKK, in 600 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets.
So pastors, Politicians, and Lawyers calling for the murder is no big deal. Not at all representative of Christian Conservatives.
Yet this means that gay people are exactly like the KKK.
I love how you easily you display your hate of gay people.
Forget your mess again, Jamie Eddie.
*meds* Damn auto spell.
Dear James Edward – it’s easy to forget what a howling mob looks like when you’re leading the charge. You might want to look behind you.
Angry, bitter coward that you are, you defend this MOB as it tears innocent families and 70-year-old grandmas’ lives and livelihoods to bits – In the name of “tolerance” and “Justice”.
You’re a wannabe Robespierre. I hope you meet his metaphorical fate – skewered by the very tools of destruction your mad mob wields.
Oh — and because some folks can’t tell the difference between a metaphor and a threat: I hope you turn out to be too crazy for the crazies, so they decide to ruin your life in turn. Then maybe you’ll learn.
You gotta admit the statement was hilarious. Who the hell has PIZZA at a WEDDING? That’s like serving ham and cheese sandwiches at a Passover seder.
You won’t even address the points I made.
Why is it okay for Christian Conservatives to advocate murdering gay or to call gay people pedophiles, but calling in death threats to a homophobe is somehow off limits?
They attacked first. There haven’t been Christian kids bullied to the point in which they commit suicide. Christian kids haven’t been thrown out of their homes by gay parents. Christians haven’t been chained to a fence and beaten to death by gay people.
BTW, I’m completely skeptical of this story. They make an announcement and a few hours later they shut down due to “death threats”?
Something smells rotten in Denmark. It reminds me of the Duke Lacrosse case where there was supposed “evidence” of “rape” yet it turns out the “rape victim” was a liar. I’m sure we’ll hear more as this story develops.
It’s the height of hypocrisy to call one girl calling another “fat” bullying that deserves national attention to stop, then on the other hand call actual death threats just words.
I personally think that if you call someone fat, it isn’t bullying. If that person truly is fat, they should be reminded of it. The fat acceptance movement is complete bullshit and is a major contribution to the obesity epidemic.
Let’s see.
You’re saying that death threats are bad, except when you make them.
You’re saying that insults are bad, except when you make them.
Now granted, you don’t see the problem with that, because you are a pervert and a pedophile who believes your sexual needs outweigh everything else, including morality and decency.
But then there’s the real world.
Nope.
That’s because Christian kids are not out to sexually molest and harm other children like liberal gays are.
That’s because Christian kids aren’t sexually molested by older gays and driven to commit suicide because the older gays reject them and/or give them HIV.
And that’s because Christians are not out double-crossing people on meth deals like Matt Shepard was.
It’s amazing how much better your life turns out when you DON’T act like a perverted sex-crazed drug-addled idiot.
And what about the gays that AREN’T promiscuous, NDT? I’m gay and yet I’m your stereotypical loner virginal nerd. And although my “little” head has insatiable sexual desires, my “big” head does not. And let’s say I’ve listened to my “big” head and have personally vowed to only have sex if I’m either married to a man or am at least in a serious enough relationship with one. I’ve never really been the hookup type.
Well, Paul, are you running around threatening to kill yourself?
Are you making shady meth deals?
Generally the worst I see you doing is leaning toward forcing little old ladies to bake cakes for you, which looks more like you’re just trying to go along to get along in the gay community.
And I’d like to think you might have the intelligence to realize that the media and gay left — but I repeat myself — current obsession with little old ladies who refer you to other people who bake cakes is a desperate attempt to divert from little old ladies who just happen to be Secretary of State, set up an unsecured homebrew email server with the intention of violating Federal laws, and then merrily send classified information to multiple devices to be picked off and skimmed by every country in the world with a 10th-grade computer hacker or access to one.
Or from an imbecile CEO and others who are demanding boycotts of a state whose laws prevent them from forcing little old ladies to bake cakes while they merrily make billions off selling to countries that enslave, torture and execute gay people AND want bonus nuclear weapons.
I’m willing to allow you might have better angels. Don’t prove otherwise.
Meh, the worst I have to worry about is graduation and taking the bar exam, and hopefully finding a job where I can help businesses get out of paying taxes, plan wills and trusts for high net worth individuals, and help execute real estate deals. Oh, and on the flip side, do some father’s rights work by helping Dads get custody of their kids in a very feminist-centric family law system.
Good grief, someone really thinks they are a snowflake. There are plenty of hetero kids who are bullied, some to suicide, and plenty of hetero kids tossed out of their homes. I’m betting there are plenty of kids who wind up doing meth like Shepard, too
Behold, ladies and gentlemen, that most bizarre and dangerous of creatures: a liberal victim-group member. The victim-group member sees himself as perpetually oppressed, and that any and all threats of violence against members of his victim-group are personal treats against him. However, he is willfully blind to the power that his victim-group has amassed, and even as he brings it to bear against those he claims are his enemies, he claims that he is oppressed.
On another note: V, I think you forgot the sequined trench coats and rhinestone jackboots.
Please be careful when talking about bullying to suicide. There are so many hurdles that have to be jumped before you start blaming the bullies (if bullying is what it actually is).
First of all, there is no such thing as sole responsibility. No man is an island. We all influence each other. There is, however, ultimate responsibility, and that belongs to the last one holding the ball. The last person who could have stopped it.
Those that actually deal with people prone to suicide know that there are three primary factors in it. First is the person themselves. They may have undiagnosed illnesses such as depression, or a mental disorder. They may also be addicted to drugs or alcohol. Second is the family upbringing. They may have been raised in an abusive home or where other family members had undiagnosed illnesses. And third, they may have suffered a recent traumatic event like the death of a family member or divorce (either their own or their parents).
Every article I’ve read on the subject that was not written by an advocate of something other than suicide prevention, put little emphasis on social pressures outside of the family. In other words, “bullying” if you want to call it that (I have a far more limited definition of bullying than most, calling the rest harassment or just plain mean or rude behavior), has littler to do with suicide.
As an analogy, suicide is like a car rolling down the hill and crashing into a tree. Personal problems are like having faulty brakes. Family problems are like not setting the brake or not maintaining the brakes. If the brakes are faulty or not set, the car could roll down the hill all on it’s own. Bullying is like someone pushing on the car. If the brakes are in good condition and set, no amount of pushing is going to cause that car to roll down the hill.
Paul, please feel free to drop off the face of the earth until such time that you can apply reality with responsibility.
That YOU may not have done this does NOT mean these attacks were not done. Nor does it exculpate the ruinous actions of the gaystapo.
It’s a shame people still try to use the “I’m a victim, so how can the others be guilty” cr*pola argumentation. Lame, Paul, LAME.
If you bother to click on the links, you will discover that names are named and a teacher has been suspended from work in this case of the “homophobic” pizza guy. If it is a hoax, the ACLU will be right there to defend the teacher who threatened to burn the pizza shop down. But, the ACLU will be nowhere to be found when it comes to defending the pizza guy for his willingness to serve gays, but not cater to a gay wedding.
This is what comes of trying to cut the Gordian knot of who, what, where, why, when and how something becomes driven by homophobia. I am waiting for the hysteria to pump up “homophobia” to attempted murder.
It is becoming increasingly apparent to a greater number of people that gay radicals do not want tolerance, they demand unconditional respect. It is how the road to LGBT affirmative action is begun.
What boggles my mind is why gays like James Edward have not established a Temple of Aphrodisia and pushed it through the IRS as being a recognized religion. The next step would be to franchise it in all states and territories and make a fortune for the Sapphos (High Bishop) in the LGBTXYZ wedding business. The Lesbos theology alone would be a drawing card.
But, no, the LGBTXYZ activists would rather snipe and carp about victimization and stomp their feet and hiss “homophobe” at people who don’t give up a bus seat.
The more these clowns do wheelies in their clown car, the less I am willing to look past them as a practitioner of the grace of tolerance. They are beginning to become annoying in a grating sort of way. They are like brake drums that produce an ear splitting squeal.
James Edward insists that conservative Christians are tolerating and even encouraging “pastors, politicians and lawyers” who openly call for murdering gays.
What a maroon. The ACLU, the NYT, the WaPo, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN and FOX NEWS would be all over this story like white on rice if it were true in any way, shape or form.
But they do not cover the figments of the imagination that drives James Edward to do the dance of the troll on his keyboard as his bile rises and his synapses sputter and short.
When, pray tell, will we finally learn that James Edward has thrown a napkin in rage at one of his demons out of disgust for their “homophobia” and been taken away in a straight jacket?
Meanwhile, it continues to be passing strange how the ever vigilant gay rights “community” pays no heed whatsoever to the inroads of Shari’a in more and more communities.
I urge James Edward and his homophobia posse to strut right down to Dearbornistan and open an LGBT wedding boutique. Let the games begin.
THIS is how the whole mess started, gays coming down on a bakery for not making a wedding cake. The threats came so fast and furious they closed down. I knew these people, they were nice enough, and very religious (eastern Orthodox, not exactly your average bible thumpers). It was all a set up by a few gay activists. As for the pizza place, well the media had to search long and hard to find these morons. While I in no way condone violence or threats of violence, I’m glad to see them go. Judging by their reviews before this, and interviews around town after, they made crappy pizza.
On a lighter note, I think pizza should be the new trendy food for gay wedding receptions. It would be a fun, non-violent way to say Fu@$^ff .
the left doesn’t believe in freedom, gay or otherwise.
“A society that puts equality before freedom will get neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both.” ― Milton Friedman
You can have quality or equality. So no pizza for weddings I wonder if the makers of MadDog 20/20 are willing to have their beverage served there. Where can I pick up my GAYKK robes?
How did we miss Barney Frank explaining achievement? Apparently he thinks that the Wright Bros achieved simply by “being there” when the first flight happened. The only way business ever works like that is on the left where it matters that “being there” to hand over a bribe. Western civilization is all about creating wealth, not zero sum
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2015/03/29/barneys-blithering-misunderstanding-business-your-being-there
The story seems a little far fertched but in the realm of possibility. The gay left is acting like a bunch of agressive fascists, If they persist with their intolerance they will lose all the political gains and support from the general public that has been acheived since Stonewall. They’re making me ashamed to admit that I’m gay which I have done since my university days and in the military.
If they had any balls they’d go to the middle east and protest the killing of gays The muslims believe in freedom of religion, for themselves.
James Edward what universe do you live in where straight kids aren’t bullied or kicked out of their homes?
And just because gay kids get bullied and thrown out of their homes, that’s no reason to justify gays/liberals bullying other people because those other people have opinions differing from theirs.
The media made this story up-they went to a small town where the “other-scary not liberals” we’re likely to live. Went to the pizza place and started asking questions about the new law. The pizza place has never been asked to cater a wedding (and who has pizza as their wedding feast anyway?) so they answered a hypothetical proposed by a reporter the. The reporter misrepresented the answer and essentially sent the angry gays their way acting as attack dogs.
Back when most people opposed gay marriage the message was “we just want to be tolerated” but now that they have mostly what they want they are showing that they refuse to tolerate anyone else’s opinion and not only want them to shut up they want to punish them by shutting down their businesses and taking their jobs away. If you do not agree with the gay left they want to destroy you not tolerate you.
Indiana caved….
Christian kids are not bullied to the point in which they commit suicide because they are Christian.
More the point that I have made repeatedly. You expect us to believe that this isn’t about discrimination. Let at the same time you refuse to acknowledge the evil committed by Christian Conservatives against gays. You continue to call gay people pedophiles. YOU CAN NOT expect us to believe that this bill is a “shield and not a sword” while simultaneously embracing the likes of NDT and Steven Anderson.
The beautiful thing about this win in Indiana is because of people like NDT and Steven Anderson.
You think by embracing these people your group is made stronger. Yet it is exactly these people who gay rights activists point out to demonstrate that this bill is really about discrimination.
It’s beautiful you can’t or won’t seem this, because it only makes our position stronger.
James… Please cite the last time a gay person was killed by a Christian. Please cite where a gay teen committed suicide where the known reason was bullying by Christians. You can’t. You have bought into the childish victim hood of your gayness. You define yourself by your sexuality and then seek to get affirmation from those you oppose. This is what teenagers do.
You still won’t condemn Islam will you? Why not?
Why do so many of you allow yourselves to be trolled? He posts comments here because you respond to them.
James Edward, please read up on teen suicide with articles written by people who deal with teen suicide, not those written by bullying prevention advocates or advocate for gay teens. You know, the ones who actually look at the PROBLEM?
Oh no; as we’ve seen, they’re bullied.
It’s just that the Christian community and heterosexual community doesn’t fetishize and glamorize suicide the way the gay bigot community does.
Gay kids know the best way to fame and notoriety is to threaten to kill themselves and post it on YouTube — or even better, to kill themselves. The LGBT community fetishizes and glorifies kids who are drama queens online, go on and on about their “oppression”, and kill themselves. It is the same mentality and system that creates Islamist suicide bombers — go kill yourself, you’ll be a martyr, you’ll strike back at all those infidels who don’t understand you.
In short, James Edward, you reward and encourage LGBT suicide, so it’s no surprise you get so much of it. Try rewarding normalcy.
LOL.
In a personality, looks, and value to society contest with you, James Edward, I will win every time.
You are a trashy gay bigot, a pathetic and helpless child who comes here to throw tantrums and antagonize people. Every single commenter here and at Hot Air recognizes you for what you are and laughs at it.
You are worthless, James Edward. Because you have made yourself worthless.
To preempt the possibility of James pulling up an article that mentions that a gay person’s assailant “went to Church every Sunday,” or something to that affect, I would kindly point out that anybody who advocates violence against those who commit sexual sins really should reconsider calling themselves Christian.
Sean L — In the course of my life, I have attended probably over a thousand Christian church services, including multiple denominations, different states, different parts of the country, different countries for that matter. And the number of times I have heard a religious authority in any church I have attended advocate hate or violence against gays is exactly zero.
What every happened to the simpler and more innocent days when the worse that happened was a flash visit by the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence and a subsequent mocking-rite of the perceived guilty-party?
All I know is I’m glad I attend an ELCA church. They’re one of the most forward-thinking denominations on the gay issue.
“Why is it okay for Christian Conservatives to advocate murdering gay…”
Nobody here is saying that. You are a lying sack of excrement, James Edward, and your contemptible habit of trying to deflect attention away from the gay left fascists by telling lies makes you beneath contempt.
For all of you radical right wing homos: Please contact me for names of psychiatrists in your home city who can help you. You obviously truly hate yourselves and have lost all self-respect. Go work as Ted Cruz’s whipping boy and let him abuse you and send you to an internment camp. Then you will experience the true joy of worship to a party that wants to see you disappear off the face of the earth.
Oh dear. kojoto @40 needs to get to a fainting couch ASAP. Somehow, I’ve apparently MISSED those meetings where the GOP plots internment camps for us homo-type sexuals.
Actually, kojoto, despotism, fascism, and totalitarianism INEVITABLY come from people who think like YOU DO.
I can’t help feel that the left and the right has made a mess of the whole thing. All of this crap over a stupid wedding cake.
Thank you Paul, for affirming again why I left the ELCA.
Livewire:
The ELCA is still theologically sound on the important issues (salvation, the divinity of Christ, etc.).
For all of you radical right wing homos: Please contact me for names of psychiatrists in your home city who can help you. You obviously truly hate yourselves and have lost all self-respect
If you don’t think lock-step with kojoto, you are labeled crazy. You are not allowed your own thoughts. You are not allowed to think outside the Borg. You will be assimilated if you know what is good for you.
Where oh where have we heard these things before?
No worries, kujo, sharia will sort these things out in due time. If it truly happens, which is entirely possible seeing how cozy your lefty friends and beloved leaders are with gay-hating regimes – and how many muslims they are importing from those gay-hating areas of the world – I so hope you get to experience the joy of living under the sword. It will be sweet justice to hear you wish for the old days of Christians only refusing to celebrate your gay part.
Christians don’t hate you or want you dead like your new overlords will. You will meekly comply and hope they don’t discover you.
Oh hey, did you hear, ISIS in Syria are now ‘fishing’ for gays. They act all gay until they catch one. Guess what they do next? But hey, Christians are worse, right?
Annie that’s just it-Christians right now just want to be able to avoid being a participant in a wedding-one they believe is a sacred rite. But gays attack as if they are intending to tie them to chairs and toss them from a rooftop. All the while avoiding the elephant in the room that is the religion that does want to kill them and runs many states where legal execution is sanctioned by the state.
Correction, kojoto.
If you want to see a party that demands gays obey or be stripped of rights and killed, go look at your own.
If you think the Obama Party thinks you’re a human being, try again. You are a slave, and the minute you talk back, you will be a pariah — if you’re lucky — or buried if you are not.
You are spiteful and jealous of us, just as plantation slaves were taught to be frightened of and to hate freedmen. You are brainwashed.
But frankly, we don’t care. Your plantation has no guards and no guns and no slavecatchers except for those who you allow to exist. You could walk away and be your own person any time and have friends and family who love and actually care about you as something other than a donation source and a reliable vote.
But you will not. And we’re fine with that. We have everything you have, only more self-esteem, more self-respect and more freedom.