We don’t know the particulars of whatever sex crimes Josh Duggar may have committed when he was fourteen years years old (a juvenile), but we do know that the left wing thinks that on the basis of those past behaviors, regardless of his apparent repentance and good behavior since, he… and every other evangelical Christian… should be punished forever. Perhaps by stoning.
In contrast, Kaitlyn Hunt was 18 years old (an adult) when she stalked and raped a fourteen year old girl. Ms Hunt, in contrast, became a cause celebre on the left (not quite to the degree of a Mike Brown or a Mumia Jamal, but still a celebrity).
Looking at these two cases, should one conclude that it’s socially acceptable for an adult lesbian to stalk and molest an underage girl? (The Vagina Monologues contained exactly such a scene.) But on the other hand, if an underage boy commits a sex offense, he should be branded, shunned, and punished for life… along with his entire family?
It’s a 2-3%er thing……….
One episode of “The Vagina Monologues”, titled “The Little Coochie Snorcher That Could”, celebrates an older woman seducing an early teen girl and teaching her how to perform cunnilingus. Feminists would see a similar seduction by a man of a young girl as heinous in the extreme, but lesbian seduction is somehow not just okay but virtuous in the highest degree.
How many people saw Serena Williams on the news and thought Bruce Jenner has never been as manly as Serena?
The left only believes in social mores for its enemies.
Y’all obviously don’t understand. The crime here is hypocrisy; molesting children is fine as long as the molester doesn’t believe it’s wrong.
Recently, while I was doing some genealogy research on my husband’s side, I found out his grandfather was registered in the Census decades ago as living in a “school for boys”. After inquiring, I was told it was a juvenile reformatory center. My in-laws told me Grandpa had been convicted of a robbery and sent there. After he finally left, he enlisted in the Army – WWII. After all that, he returned home, married his sweetheart and lived and worked quietly the rest of his life, until he passed on over two decades ago.
Notice we, two generations away from him, with a third one at home, found out about all this SEVENTY YEARS after the fact. If his juvenile records had not been sealed, he would have never gotten a job after leaving the Army with an Honorable discharge. His adult life would have been much, much different. As far as all of us in the family know, he had nothing else, and he had committed no other crimes. He went to his grave in peace. No one called him a “criminal” at his funeral: only a good husband, father and grandfather.
Josh Duggar had the right to sealed juvie records. He had the right to live the rest of his life in peace and to do whatever he wanted, as long as it was legal. He had a right to go to his grave in peace knowing that his grandchildren and great-grandchildren would find out about his own troubles way after he dies. That right was maliciously taken away from him. Nowadays, he might as well be in a sex offender database – or live in a leper colony. He can’t get a job driving trucks or dealing with people. He will probably have to make a living as a trash collector- or leave the country and start fresh, with a new identity. His life here is ruined.
I’m no attorney, but I think he has the right to sue the State for this.
I can’t find the article but there was one where his sisters were quoted as saying he was too curious about female bodies and he had gone into their bedroom when they were sleeping and touched them. They had no idea untl their parents told them. Their parents also then put locks on the doors so when the girls went to bed, they locked the door.
Yes. I agree that the information shouldn’t have been released by whoever released it, supposedly someone borrowed a book in which there was a letter talking about it and the book borrower publicized it. Because it related to information that was part of his juvenile record, the papers should never have published it.
Totally different than Lena Dunham too, who molested her younger sister most of the kids life and published it in her book.
As a follow up to Nan’s comment:
My understanding is that he was 14 when he did it, and they were at least old enough to have something on their chests, but younger than fourteen. The number of incidences was a small number–1, 2, maybe 5. Which means that most shrinks would call it “sexual curiosity” and not predation, not molestation.
And then, of course, there is the fact that his records were illegally released. Any one wanna bet that the guy who did it escapes with not even anything as bad as a small on the wrist?
I find it interesting to contrast the media and Hollywood’s treatment of Josh Duggar with their views on the ‘innocence’ of Roman Polanski – who, as an adult, admitted to raping a 13 year old girl after drugging her and getting her drunk, and yet they say it wasn’t ‘rape rape’ and shouldn’t be prosecuted. Yet again, being a Liberal means you don’t have to be consistent and that you can manipulate law and politics to serve your position no matter what it is.
Because he diddled his own sisters. Also, Kaitlyn Hunt’s girlfriend did at least try to consent – even though her consent wasn’t real because minors can’t consent.
My brother did far worse at that age. I was very uncomfortable with it, but never cried victim. As an adult I’m not and never was scarred for life, although as an adult being made a victim is a whole different story, and where is the they were a kid factor? They killed someone. But it was a kid!! But they were a kid so forget it. Josh duggar at 14 felt up, PEDOPHILE.
Kristina you find indignation for josh duggar as a child yet excuse an adult. Why is that? And also why is josh duggar at 14 called a pedophile, but el salavadian Ms 13 gang members, illegally allowed here , viciously raped a girl and left her for dead. Why is josh digger news and not that?
The difference is that the girl Hunt was with was a high school girl as well. She was sexually developed.
The girls Duggar fooled with weren’t even old enough to know what a penis or a vagina is yet. Plus, they were his SISTERS. Even if his sisters were the same age as he…they were…HIS SISTERS.
When I was in high school, seniors (mostly guys) would date freshman (mostly girls). Generally, when I was in school, seniors were 17/18 and freshman were 14/15.
So, um, Kaitlyn Hunt … she falls right into that spectrum.
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Yes, we do know. His sisters admitted that their brother molested them. That’s called incest.
http://time.com/3911586/josh-duggar-molestation-sisters/
No, getting molested by your older brother isn’t a horror story. It’s just like playing doctor or something like that. Only with your older brother. Nothing to see here.
VtK comparing Hunt to Duggar? Now, I’ve seen everything.
CrayCray,
Thanks for the link to a poorly crafted tabloid trash story. Lets start with the opening paragraph. Here I hope to raise your level of critical thinking so that you too can spot bias from the get-go.
The first 16 words are stated as a fact which has been hooked to six words actually spoken by a sister. Nowhere in the whole story is there any information concerning the rest of Jessa (Duggar) Seewald’s words in that interview.
Would it be of any interest to you to know that Jessa (Duggar) Seewald and her sister both told Megyn Kelly in the same broadcast interview that they did not know Josh had pawed them and peeped on them. They were told by their parents that it had happened.
For me, molestation is very serious stuff. If you, out of the blue, buy a 10 year old boy an ice cream cone, are you attempting to molest him or are you actually molesting him? Are you a gay pedophile? What is it about you and little boys?
Do you see how this works? You call Josh a child molester and then you let him dig himself out of the hole you put him in.
As I know the very scant facts, Josh was turned over to the cops at the time of the incidents. Somehow, he escaped the zealousness of the child protective services. Maybe the whole scenario was too borderline for the social workers to impound Josh and put him in a shelter. Or, maybe the nanny state failed and allowed a troubled child molester to grow into a potential monster with children of his own to molest at home in his spare time.
What is your take? You have no more “facts” at hand than I have. But the liberals are all over this outsized, fundamentalist Christian family like white on rice.
VtheK makes a stunning point. The no-talent cow, Lena Dunham, is obsessed with fully exposing her flabby gender identifying parts and plumbing and she wrote a book detailing how she played with the vagina of her little sister Grace, even when Grace was at the infant/toddler stage. Yet liberals can’t quite seem to notice her, even though Dunham will pay to get an audience to listen to her creepy mouth.
As for
Link to the source where you learned that incest occurred.
That little boy you bought the ice cream cone for? He was your little brother. CrayCray, that’s incest, in your book. What kind of a pedophile screws his own little brother? Huh? Oh, I’m sorry, did I make a great leap between presenting an imaginary example all the way smearing you? Wow, I apologize. But what are you doing about being a child molester?
19 kids. Inviting a reality show into your home to film your life.
No red flags? Warming bells? Anyone surprised?
I love how the desperate CrayCray, in his attempt to smear Josh Duggar, makes clear the behaviors that he thinks are normal and typical for LGBT people and should be celebrated in Pride parades.
Also, Heliotrope, as with James Edward, I will present evidence that shows emphatically that CrayCray has not a leg on which to stand and is in fact a bigot acting out of complete and total malice.
Take the example of Lena Dunham, who in her own words forcibly and physically violated her sister.
Furthermore, as Lena Dunham herself admits, her parents not only refused to correct, but in fact considered this forcible sexual assault of a one-year-old toddler to be “normal”.
Moreover, this behavior, which Lena Dunham herself describes as being that of a sexual predator, continued:
And:
Moreover, her sister stated emphatically that this behavior was NOT harmful and that anyone who said it was is a heteronormative bigot:
It must also be noted that Lena Dunham is fully endorsed by and is a spokesperson for Barack Obama, the Obama Party, and the Obama campaign.
So let us recap.
According to these referenced and clear facts from liberals:
1) Sexual contact with a sibling, aka incest, is NOT a crime
2) Continuous and decades-long sexual activity with an underage minor, including your own siblings, is NOT a crime
3) Parents who allow sexual contact with a sibling and continuous and decades-long sexual activity with an underage minor are not in any way negligent or destructive
4) Sexual contact with an underage minor, even if they are your sibling, is NOT harmful
5) Stating that sex and sexual behavior with an underage minor and sibling is harmful or a danger is “heteronormative” and therefore bigoted.
6) The LGBT community, the Obama Party, and Barack Obama himself all fully endorse and support points 1 through 5.
Therefore, I would ask on what grounds CrayCray is accusing ANYONE of “molestation”, since CrayCray, who claims to represent the LGBT community, supports and endorses all of these points that have been provided and insists that sex with minors, including siblings, is a normal and natural part of being non-”heteronormative”?
What appears to be obvious is that CrayCray’s definition of “molestation” does not actually have anything to do with sex with underage minors, and that in fact one can have sex with underage minors and siblings and be a liberal in good standing and fully represent the LGBT community and the Barack Obama Party.
As before, what we see is that CrayCray screams “molestation”, yet refuses to define what it actually IS or to apply the definition equally and objectively. Which means that his accusations of such are really no accusations of fact, but simply reflections of his own hatred and bile.
Helio/ND20: keep digging yourselves into a bigger hole.
1) Duggar molested his sisters
2) Hunt was a senior dating a freshman
CrayCray,
Keep digging yourself into a bigger hole.
1) What acts of molestation did Josh Duggar commit.
2) What is the Arkansas definition of molestation in the circumstances when each of the acts you are going to list concerning Josh Duggar occurred?
3) Name the source for each of the molestation facts you are listing in this issue with Josh Duggar.
4) Since you categorically state that Josh Duggar molested his sisters, you will have no trouble proving your assessment, right?
So Vince supports child rapists. Got it.
Feel free to explain how this:
Compares to a senior dating a freshman in high school. If Hunt is a child rapist, as TLW seems to be suggesting, then, I grew up with a bunch of Christian child rapists and didn’t even realize it. I’m sure all of you have been vocal opponents of seniors dating freshman in the past.
As far as Duggar NOT molesting his sisters … lmao …
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/06/04/josh-duggars-sister-comes-to-his-defense-following-molestation-reports/
Keep digging, Helio.
*pats Vince on hte head* Yes she is Vince and she even knew she was going in.
http://theothermccain.com/2013/11/24/documents-prove-kaitlyn-hunt-lied-knew-sex-with-14-year-old-was-illegal/
Se the big difference here is Josh knows what he did was wrong, and seeks forgiveness. Puts him one up on the rapist you’re defending.
I wonder if all those Christian seniors dating freshman I grew up with where the age of consent was 18 sought forgiveness.
:shrug:
Feel free to come down hard on a senior dating a freshman verses a kiddie fiddler who didn’t apologize until the media stepped in and had a father who lied to authorities.
Hey, but Jesus! And asking for forgiveness!
So dating is a euphemism for diddling kids? Because KH didn’t just go to ice cream social with a 14 yr old, but then you knew that and are just trying to obfuscate.
Keep defending rapists Vince. I’m glad to see you’re picking up the slack since James Edward has gone into hiding…
… or into a daycare.
Hmmn, that would mean the Christian seniors who were 18 and dating 14 year old freshmen when I was in high school were rapists. And I don’t believe they were.
Vince is a media-conditioned leftist, so naturally he expects it’s universal for fourteen year olds girls to put out on the first date.
As I’ve said, when I was in high school, I didn’t find anything particularly wrong about a Christian high school senior dating a freshman.
I guess you all do.
Nope, sorry CrayCray.
You don’t get to call Josh Duggar a molester since you refuse to condemn Lena Dunham for repeated sexual assaults of her own sister.
You don’t get to scream “harm” unless you condemn Lena Dunham’s sister for her claim that criticizing sexual contact with minor siblings is “heteronormative”.
And you don’t get to scream “dating” until you admit that you support and endorse as normal having sex with fourteen-year-olds in public restrooms and stalking them in violations of court orders.
You’re trying to manipulate words, and we’ll have none of it. You need to live under and follow your own rules, hypocrite.
The other hilarious thing is how the bigot CrayCray starts shrieking “Christian” like an imbecile parrot.
Why? Because the bigot CrayCray doesn’t care of you molest a child as long as you’re not Christian.
That’s the only logical explanation. The bigot CrayCray has systematically excused every single example of child molestation by a liberal provided while simultaneously applying the most draconian standards to anyone even remotely suspected of being a Christian.
In that case, CrayCray is irrelevant. He’s also incapable of doing anything but trolling, and certainly unable to contribute anything intelligent to the debate.
Progressives see this whole Josh Duggar thing as an open invitation to attack Christianity at its core. The “logic” they employ is that a self-confessed Christian “sinner” has forfeited his right to rise above his own failing. If said sinner speaks out against the acts of another person, said sinner is a hypocrite because he destroyed his life and credibility forever when he admitted to having sinned himself. For the Progressive, a Christian is parading round as perfect and any act of imperfection deletes him forever.
The Progressive does not admit to anything greater in the humility department than “mistakes were possibly made.” Just a smattering of contact with the Clintons and the Clinton Organized Crime Foundation should give anyone a taste of how Progressives acquit themselves in the “wrongdoing” arena.
This all stems from the antipathy Progressives have for any insinuation that evil exists as a force in the affairs of mankind. Since Progressives are fully obsessed with victim status, they have found it convenient to substitute “inequality” for the concept of evil. Everything in the Progressive world is not about the struggle between good and evil; it is about equality and inequality. They have made equality their religion and ultimate measure.
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” is a direct reference to how to live in a world where free will is directed by responses concerning good and evil. It is a meaningless rule in a world where judgements are handed down from political elites making rulings concerning equality and inequality.
Christianity is based on the understanding of good and evil and never giving up trying to be virtuous and on the side of good. Progressives hate the idea of sin. Not because they hate sin; they hate being told they are engaging in evil and are in need of self improvement.
What is a magnificent wonder of actual hypocrisy is when the Progressives jam political correctness as a smothering blanket of censorship on people who they judge “guilty” of fulfilling their definition of bigotry. Since perfect equality is the Progressive measure, anything smacking of inequality is unacceptable and must be rectified by courts, commissions, panels and decrees from “proper” thinking human elites. (Not that any of the 1% Progressives find themselves to be hypocrites by the accumulation of wealth and power. Equality for thee, but not for me.)
I can not overstate how extremely important to the Progressive not to get hooked up to anything being remotely “evil” except inequality. ISIS is not evil. Were the ISIS folks not suffering from terrible inequality, there would be no ISIS. Dropping gays off of tall buildings to smash on the concrete below with their heads is merely a symptom of what inequality causes people in ISIS to do. Blah, blah, blah until the Progressive feels self sanctified and pure.
Josh Duggar is reported to have confronted his evil and to have made life changes to get it behind him. He is also reported to be a very spiritual Christian man who has asked forgiveness and dedicated himself to follow the path toward righteousness. Boy, does that piss off the Progressives. They know that Josh Duggar does not believe in gay marriage as a hallmark “equality” issue. Therefore, Duggar is an enemy of the Progressive religion. He needs to be silenced and his moral code must be crushed. Free will is the property of the state which authorizes its use through strict regulation and the threat of force.
The oldest religion in the world is the state as god and the source of all codes be they legal, ethical or moral. The state sets forth the doctrine of obedience to the state and its espoused values and creates the cult of organization in its bureaucracy. It is axiomatic that the state and statism as the ultimate authority is incompatible with religion.
Ask any Progressive about the meaning of separation of church and state in the USA and he will tell you that the state and religion are separate entities and that the state must be free of any association with religion or its concepts, understandings or teachings. The state must be a sterile zone untainted by religion. To this end, the state must drive religious influence out of the culture, traditions and ethos.
Just after the close of WWI the Nazi Party Platform of 1920 said this in Article 24:
Put aside the anti-semitism and strong nationalism and look at the rest. The state’s existence and the manners and moral sentiments of the people MUST NOT be either jeopardized or put in conflict by the church. Why? Because the common good is supreme over the individual good. That is to say that the individual is subservient to the state in matters the state deems as being necessary for the common good.
In 1935, Hitler appointed Hanns Kerrl to the position of Reichsminister für die kirchlichen Angelegenheiten (Minister of Ecclesiastical Affairs). His job was to bring the German churches into accord with Nazi ideology. Ultimately, Kerrl wanted to herd the people into one “Reich Church.”
“Positive Christianity” was national socialism by a different name. Kerrl set out to pressure most of the Protestant ministers and officials to swear a loyalty oath to Hitler. He couldn’t mess with Catholics on that demand, so he basically marginalized them along with other churches which did not get with the program.
We have our own Liberation Theology and Social Justice church voices and the Progressives are quick to identify them as the bearers of modern thinking, reason and understanding.
This state and church struggle for significance in guiding the culture is not anything new. But it should be noted that socialism drives religion out of the public square. It pretty much has to. Nothing can be above the state and the sheeple must not have alternative views to what the state is promoting.
Addressing the comparison made in the main post:
Can you please quote the part where VtheK discusses Dunham in this post? Are you confusing her with Kaitlyn Hunt? Because they’re two very different people.
Nope, sorry CrayCray.
You don’t get to call Josh Duggar a molester since you refuse to condemn Lena Dunham for repeated sexual assaults of her own sister.
You don’t get to scream “harm” unless you condemn Lena Dunham’s sister for her claim that criticizing sexual contact with minor siblings is “heteronormative”.
And you don’t get to scream “dating” until you admit that you support and endorse as normal having sex with fourteen-year-olds in public restrooms and stalking them in violations of court orders.
You’re trying to manipulate words, and we’ll have none of it. You need to live under and follow your own rules, hypocrite.
VtheK does not mention Lena Dunham in this post. To find his thoughts on Lena Dunham, you need only slide to the next post above this post.
But to accommodate your distinction-without-a-difference concerns, Kaitlyn Hunt used her diesel powered sex drive to drive across the top of the law to satisfy her lust and has now got her libido in a sling along with a world of legal troubles. He choice. Her free will.
What is your defense?
May I reword that for you? “When I was in high school, I didn’t find anything particularly wrong about a Christian lesbian high school senior stalking the vagina of a female freshman (sex proclivity unstated and religious affiliation unstated) for a taste of what is between her legs.”
CrayCray, I am too dense to understand how lesbians rape one another. I am also too dense to understand how consensual sex between a freshman female and a senior female is much of anybody’s business unless a legal guardian gets into the mix.
Because your comment has the context of a gay person reminiscing on a gay site, I don’t actually know what your definition of “date” is in your comment. Is it about gays and consensual sex or is it about copping a feel or is it about innocently getting the mating game started in hopes that compatibility will be discovered and gay union may be in the future? What further baffles me is whether you are somehow trying to normalize stalking among the hormonal crowd. If your high school was like most high schools, there was a lot of crotch-driven, craving passion in play.
So, why don’t you unwrap your simplistic, defensive comment and speak to motive, predilection, propensity, itch, lechery, appetite, attraction, lust, and licentiousness.
And do tell us why you specified the senior as being a Christian.
Or, Heliotrope, CrayCray could just admit that LGBT people like himself are incapable of going on a date without having sex.
Because that’s basically the problem here. CrayCray and his fellow “real gays” cannot date without having sex, are incapable of human interaction without intercourse, and in generally unable to carry out the most basic and simple action of enjoying a person’s company without climaxing.
This is incomprehensible to heterosexuals, who actually ARE expected to be able to restrain themselves and view people as something other than sexual objects. But it shows just how dysfunctional LGBT people like CrayCray are that they can’t.
Yeah, NDT, I guess he could, but I will leave it for him to go there.
My vomiting point is always reached when lust and fetishes are promoted as the “new normal.” Like the Romans and Greeks didn’t leave records of lust run wild and fetishes with Latin and Greek words to describe them were never captured in print! Heck the Larco Museum in Lima, Peru has a collection Mocha pottery that is pretty instructive.
Christians and Jews took on Baal worship and recognized it as the destruction of God’s people. Baal worship involved casual sex, indulgence in sensual pleasure and disregarding moral restraints. But it has never been eradicated.
Perhaps there is no delineated study of the size of the LGBT population engaged in casual sex, indulgence in sensual pleasure and disregard for moral restraints. But, as I learn about the efforts to “normalize” gay differences, time and time again it boils down to being how the sex hormones function.
From my view as a Christian, I believe this: How can a true Christian not show gracious love for a gay? I didn’t read any footnotes and exceptions appended to The Golden Rule. I also didn’t find anything exculpatory in the “go and sin no more” scenario, but gracious Christian love was not denied.
More and more, I find that having casual sex, indulgence in sensual pleasure and disregard of moral restraints are being shoved down my throat as some sort of punishment for my “primitive” thinking.
Give me a break. Stick around the zoo and you will come across plenty of primitive impulses being played out by the breeders and wannabe breeders. Going the Baal route is as primal as it gets.
Until the bathhouse crowd publishes their winning treatises on improving the state of mankind, I will continue to see them as reprobates who risk their very lives for momentary and fleeting pleasure. Drug addicts, sex addicts, alcoholics, compulsive gamblers, etc. are all wound up in pleasure seeking. And, often as not, they are strongly opposed to feeling guilty about it. So, they attack those who will not enable them. Simple as that.
I have no clue about the root causes of why a fellow human is gay, bi, lesbian, trans or hetero. That is a mystery. But, like all mystery, it soon enough becomes political and seeks to gain status through some form of force.
ND20 is oddly fascinated with my sex life. Really weird. I haven’t had sex in years. Been on dates, though.
And Helio degrading (making fun of?) sex between two women is also odd.
Helio, to educate you, most of us (men and women, and the rest) have a g-spot or two. Helping another human being achieve orgasm between two consenting adults is generally considered to be a form of sexual relations. There is no right or wrong way about it. There are also several ways to make a baby these days, btw.
Cheers.
I grew up in a small town where everyone went to church. And, failed to see why Kaitlyn Hunt was as “bad” as Josh Duggar (as VTK was trying to argue), when she was no different than some of the people (most of them Christians) I went to high school with.
Again, a senior dating a freshman back when I was in high school was not considered a big deal. Whether they be a Christian (then or now) or not, or lesbian (now, obviously, as a lesbian would not have done well in the town that I grew up in back in the 80s/90s), or whatever. Back in my day, we never thought of “oh, so-and-so is 14 and the other so-and-so is 18,” any more than if the latter was 17. It just never occurred to us (well, to me anyway). It wasn’t a big deal and I’m not sure why VtK is making a big deal about it and comparing the 18-year-old Senior to someone who diddled his younger sisters.
Certainly ND20 can act smug from his prim perch as he has been in a monogamous long-term relationship For a while now. However, it wasn’t that long ago that there were “tasteful” nude photos of him floating around on the Internet of him spread out with his @ss pointed north. I mean, why would someone looking for non-sexual dates do such a thing?
Not really, CrayCray.
After all, you’re the one shrieking that this is your normal “dating” behavior.
And:
What Heliotrope is simply pointing out is that you are a sexual pervert and deviant and that you are so delusionally desperate to normalize your perversion and deviancy that you are equating it to dating. So own it.
Then what makes it funny is that you start to scream and finger-point about nude pictures. Since you openly support raping and sexually molesting minors in a public restroom and consider violating court orders, INCLUDING covering up the violation, encouraging perjury, and sexually manipulating a minor to be normal “dating” behavior, who the hell cares? You’re just looking for any excuse to spin, deflect and get away from the fact that you are cornered and exposed as a sexual pervert and a deviant.
Amen, NDT. It is hard work to get the blind to see.
Like I said, ND20, trading nudies online suggests you at one point were interested in sex without commitment. And you cast judgment on me for not having sex since obama’s last term. That’s a laugh and a half.
And neither of you have come out against sexual relations between a senior in high school and a freshman unless that senior is a lesbian.
: rolling eyes :
Evidently you’re too stupid and stubborn to read, CrayCray.
Since you openly support raping and sexually molesting minors in a public restroom and consider violating court orders, INCLUDING covering up the violation, encouraging perjury, and sexually manipulating a minor to be normal “dating” behavior, who the hell cares? You’re just looking for any excuse to spin, deflect and get away from the fact that you are cornered and exposed as a sexual pervert and a deviant.
Want to know how we know you’re cornered? Because you start spinning and changing your story and tripping all over yourself like a malicious lying brat.
Emphasis mine:
And now magically that has changed to:
Two points:
There is a WORLD of difference between “dating” and “sexual relations”. The one hardly implies the other.
You insisted before that we WERE opposed to and were criticizing DATING between a freshman and a senior.
So bluntly put, you not only tried to play word games, you’re already on record as having negated your claim.
This is adult reasoning, CrayCray. You aren’t mentally or morally capable of that. You are a brat, a spoiled child who learned early in life he could get away with lying — which means you are simply unsuited to function as a grownup. Hence you fall back on race-baiting, childish taunts, and word games.
I guess you all think it’s okay for a senior to stoop a freshman unless that senior is a lesbian. Let the record show that when I wrote “dating” I Intended that to include sex. I was a little confused because apparently ND20 believes that putting nudies of yourself online has nothing to do with trying to procure sex.
ND20:
Why was your Twitter suspended? Did you break any of their rules?
No, CrayCray, you wrote it because you’re a sexual deviant and pervert who cannot date without having sex, are incapable of human interaction without intercourse, and in general unable to carry out the most basic and simple action of enjoying a person’s company without climaxing.
And what makes you pathological is your screaming insistence that your behavior is normal. No, it isn’t. You’re a pervert and a sexual deviant. Normal people are not going around having sex with underage minors. The fact that you did it, that you condone doing it, and that you attempt to explain it away as normal are symptoms of your sickness.
Then you descend into outright gibberish.
Read that very carefully. You are attempting to impugn us for not criticizing something that you claim criticizing is homophobic and wrong.
This is classic Alinsky and cultural Marxism. And the way you defeat it is to point out the hypocrisy of the Marxist. If you want us to condemn sex with underage minors, you condemn it first. Otherwise, as we’ve seen, you go screaming off about “Christians” while you support lesbians raping underage minors.
And this was classic.
When the Marxist primate is cornered, he begins to fling poo.
That’s actually a compliment to the person doing the cornering and getting the poo flung at them, because the Marxist primate is acknowledging that the person has a sense of right and wrong, is willing to reevaluate oneself objectively, and can feel shame.
Unfortunately, the Marxist primate CrayCray, being trapped at the level of a child, is incapable of realizing that the self-aware adult with self-esteem knows that the validity of an argument does not depend on the person making it. Moreover, the adult knows that the Marxist primate is screaming and flinging all this poo to deflect and distract and avoid.
And this we repeat to CrayCray the Marxist primate: Since you openly support raping and sexually molesting minors in a public restroom and consider violating court orders, INCLUDING covering up the violation, encouraging perjury, and sexually manipulating a minor to be normal “dating” behavior, who the hell cares? You’re just looking for any excuse to spin, deflect and get away from the fact that you are cornered and exposed as a sexual pervert and a deviant.
Now watch. The Marxist primate CrayCray is just going to fling more personal poo. CrayCray has been obsessed with stalking and doxxing anonymous commenters from this website for years, going so far as to misrepresent himself to try to phish information from the board owners and moderators. I have no doubt the primate has and wil try throwing more dirt and speculation, because it’s either that or admit he’s a sexual deviant.
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LMAO.
Let’s recap, Marxist primate CrayCray.
You’re screaming about and insisting that pictures online are shameful.
And yet, what did you consider normal dating behavior?
So again: since you support sending underage minors sex solicitation videos showing people engaged in sex acts, not to mention raping and sexually molesting minors in a public restroom, violating court orders, INCLUDING covering up the violation, encouraging perjury, and sexually manipulating a minor as all being normal “dating” behavior, who the hell cares? You’re just looking for any excuse to spin, deflect and get away from the fact that you are cornered and exposed as a sexual pervert and a deviant.
And, exactly as I predicted, you just get worse on the doxxing. That’s because you are a violent, malicious, and emotionally immature person who is right now acting out of pure hate and spite and a desire to harm someone else.
Problem is, CrayCray, I’m NOT ashamed of my body. I’m not ashamed of what I’ve done, and I know that the people here value my arguments regardless. You ARE ashamed, you ARE a shameful pervert and deviant, and the only chance you have is to try to scream and savage other people into submission.
You lose, CrayCray. Everyone here sees now what a total liar and piece of disgusting hypocritical trash you are.
No shaming of body. Only illustrating the hypocrisy of your lies and double-standards. Obviously, it’s lost on you.
Can you define pervert and deviant and then in a sentence? If you’re calling me those names I’d like to know how they apply to me. I looked up the definitions and they don’t seem to fit.
I’d also like to know how you shame me for having sex without dates, especially when that has never happened.
Thanks!
Awww, so cute, CrayCray.
We can all see you balling up your little fists, your face turning redder and redder. You thought you had the trump card, that you were going to shame me into silence.
Now you’ve just demonstrated you’re a complete and total imbecile and hypocrite who screams that a grown man’s pictures on the Internet are bad, but a perverse and sick lesbian sending masturbation videos to an underage minor, in violation of a court order and THEN encouraging others to perjure themselves, is just awesome.
Even better, you’ve demonstrated that there literally is no limit of doxxing to which you will go to harm someone. You had no purpose for posting those other than to cause malicious and deliberate harm to me. Moreover, CrayCray, I strongly suggest you link the original source, because you do NOT have rights to repost or alter those, and you have misrepresented them.
But again, you’re a violent, vindictive, and malicious brat. Now everyone sees it. You tried to body-shame me and failed. You tried to behavior-shame me and only showed just how sexually deviant and perverted you are. Now you’re screaming “hypocrisy” while you yourself have stated there is absolutely nothing wrong with sending pron in violation of a court order to underage minors.
Looks like the Marxist primate CrayCray is so mad he’s gone incoherent again.
Then why on earth did you claim THIS?
And the part about deviant and pervert is easy, CrayCray. You screamed that anyone who has sex with a minor and/or supports others having sex with minors is a deviant and pervert. Since you support lesbians like Kaitlyn Hunt having sex with minors and insist that sex with minors is normal, you are a deviant and a pervert for exactly the same reaons you claim Josh Duggar is one.
What is happening, CrayCray, is that you are being forced to live up to your own pronouncements, and you are cornered. Hence you’re frantically flinging poo, deflecting, and trying to distract. So sowwy.
If hunt were a conservative you wouldn’t be opening up your stinking clam.
And, as I have argued, neither would I, as it was an accepted occurrence when I was in high school and didn’t give it two thoughts (a senior dating a freshman).
And you’re a coward per usual: lobbing insults at people and then not backing them up. Let the record show you called me a pervert and a deviant and then you backed off when you couldn’t even define those words or use them in a sentence. What a politician you are. But what should I expect from someone who pretends to know intimate details about my life and is completely wrong (accusing me in the past of molesting children, spreading disease, having careless bareback sex, sex without dating). But you don’t care because you say all this anonymously and are weak and scared. Because you would never say such things to my face because you’re a yellow motherf*cker.
Fact is, she’s a liberal LGBT, and you’re defending her and screaming that sending underage minors sex solicitation videos showing people engaged in sex acts, not to mention raping and sexually molesting minors in a public restroom, violating court orders, INCLUDING covering up the violation, encouraging perjury, and sexually manipulating a minor is all normal “dating” behavior for LGBTs.
Fact is, such behavior is NOT normal. It’s deviant and perverted, and you by supporting it show that you are a sexual deviant and pervert.
Nope.
DATING is normal. Having sex with underage minors is deviant and perverted. Your attempt to turn the former into the latter simply shows how mentally sick, deviant, and perverted you are — and how desperate you are to insist that yours and Kaitlyn Hunt’s behavior is “normal”.
Nope. You screamed that ANYONE who had sex with or even touched an underage minor, or defended anyone who did, was a deviant and a pervert when you were having your puritan fit over Josh Duggar. Thus, by your standards, you are a deviant and a pervert because you defended Kaitlyn Hunt.
You can’t play that game, CrayCray. Everyone here saw you pitch your fit over Josh Duggar. Now you’re getting it thrown back in your face and you’re bawling.
Or so shrieks the person running around trying to body-shame, behavior-shame, and doxx me for the sole purposes of malice and harm.
If you were so concerned about respecting other people, CrayCray, you wouldn’t be acting like you are now. But since you’re doxxing and trying to smear and attack people, who the hell cares?
LOL.
Why should I make it easy for a mentally-unstable, violent, proven malicious individual who clearly will go to any lengths to harm me and has no restraint whatsoever?
Only an idiot allows themselves to be killed over an imbecile calling them a coward. And everyone here knows you’re an imbecile.
Lol if you think some of those seniors I spoke of weren’t shtupping the fresh women in question.
And you still have come out against all high shool seniors having intimate relations with fresh women.
Nope, sorry, CrayCray, word games will get you nowhere.
You’re backpedaling and spinning now because you admitted you’re a sexual deviant and pervert who is incapable of going on a date without having sex.
You’re backpedaling and spinning now because you admitted normal, expected and universal “dating” behavior for LGBT people involves sending underage minors sex solicitation videos showing people engaged in sex acts, not to mention raping and sexually molesting minors in a public restroom, violating court orders, INCLUDING covering up the violation, encouraging perjury, and sexually manipulating a minor.
You seem wholly and completely incapable of even imagining a situation in which two people could date WITHOUT having sex. That is abnormal, dysfunctional, sexually deviant and perverted.
And now you try changing it to “intimate relations”. Nope, sorry. From henceforth, you are required to define everything BEFORE you use it, because as we’ve seen, you magically reverse yourself and insist that fondling and having sex with minors and your siblings is not perversion or deviance when LGBT people and liberals like Lena Dunham do it.
You will get the benefit of the doubt when you demonstrate yourself trustworthy. Fortunately, with your attempt to doxx me, you just demonstrated to everyone on this website that you are not trustworthy, and in fact are a malicious and vile liar who will say anything to get your way and to hurt other people.
lol face it. You can’t come out against seniors in high school having sex with freshman because you’re a hypocrite.
So let’s see: you’re criticizing me for supposedly NOT criticizing something that you support, endorse and practice as fully and completely normal.
Since you’re the one demanding that sex with underage minors is not only normal, but absolutely imperative and impossible to NOT do, wouldn’t your demands that I criticize it be hypocritical?
Of course, we know the game of the Marxist Alinsky primate. You’re not asking questions to enlighten yourself; you’re asking them to manipulate and trap. You are a malicious liar, and that fact is exposed by both your doxxing me and your repeated attempts, as I have documented, to change the subject and deflect and delay and stall.
You’re a sexual pervert and deviant, CrayCray. You’re also hilariously impaired by your tribalism and your irrational hatred of Christianity, and frankly it makes it child’s play to run rings around you in an argument.
Lol, you just can’t condemn all 18-year old seniors from having sex with freshman, can you? Only because hunt is lesbian and made a cause célèbre by the lefty liberals.
Figures.
So let’s see: you’re criticizing me for supposedly NOT criticizing something that you support, endorse and practice as fully and completely normal.
Since you’re the one demanding that sex with underage minors is not only normal, but absolutely imperative and impossible to NOT do, wouldn’t your demands that I criticize it be hypocritical?
Of course, we know the game of the Marxist Alinsky primate. You’re not asking questions to enlighten yourself; you’re asking them to manipulate and trap. You are a malicious liar, and that fact is exposed by both your doxxing me and your repeated attempts, as I have documented, to change the subject and deflect and delay and stall.
You’re a sexual pervert and deviant, CrayCray. You’re also hilariously impaired by your tribalism and your irrational hatred of Christianity, and frankly it makes it child’s play to run rings around you in an argument.
Just admit it, ND20. If Hunt was a straight guy or girl and wasn’t turned into an LGBT sensation, the media wouldn’t care and neither would you. (And neither would I. But, then again, I’m willing to admit that if Hunt was a straight guy or girl, and I knew about it, I still wouldn’t care.)
*still wouldn’t be bothered, as I remain unbothered by Hunt.