The Democrat Media Narrative is that the Charleston Shootings were caused by guns, conservatism, and the Confederate flag; they have categorized the attack as “right-wing extremism.”
And yet…
Dylann Roof was obviously a Tea Party Patriot type. @Statueboy @AACONS pic.twitter.com/SgyvqZGOZ5
— Robert Stacy McCain (@rsmccain) June 20, 2015
Leftist Logic demands we boycott Gold’s Gym
From Stormdoor’s manifesto:
“I hate the sight of the American flag. Modern American patriotism is an absolute joke. People pretending like they have something to be proud while White people are being murdered daily in the streets. Many veterans believe we owe them something for “protecting our way of life” or “protecting our freedom”. But im not sure what way of life they are talking about.”
Change the word “White” to “Black” and he’s basically Melissa Harris-Perry or any other MSNBC host.
Still skeptical that Stormdoor should be treated like a terrorist, since that would mean Obama sets him free and gives him money. However, he does increasingly resemble another famous domestic terrorist…
This is why I say that liberals react while conservatives think.
The news is out that a white male has opened fire in a black church, and liberals immediately say that perpetrator had to be right-wing, because, obviously, no liberal would ever, ever, ever shoot a black man in cold blood. This despite all of the gang-related killings in liberal strongholds, which, of course, is not the fault of liberalism, right?
Conservatives, on the other hand, left the political affiliation out of it, and condemned the killing, also suspecting it was racially motivated, but reserved all other judgement until more facts were revealed.
Even now, that the facts that he was taking drugs, wanted to start a race war, broke the law to obtain a gun, liberals still blame conservatives for this.
There are times I wish truth would bitchslap some people.
He belongs to a conservative organization. He is a right-wing conservative.
Of course you don’t think he should be treated as a terrorist. He killed black people, that make him a right wing hero. Also what terrorists have been set free by Obama?
When conservatives do this when the killer is Muslim then you can feel smug. However, whenever a killer is Muslim immediately the entire religion of Islam is indicted and it is immediately called a terror attack. When the killer is a white racist conservative, time is needed to understand what caused killings and there is continued reluctance to call it a terror attack.
James Edward what are you talking about? You and your narcissist group are a huge problem.
NO ONE blamed all Muslims or all of Islam for the Boston bombing, yet you blame all conservatives for the church shooting, and say all conservatives blamed Islam and it was wrong. Hypocrocy much? And btw I’m not a conservative but I’ve never burned an American flag, that would be your boy.
Just stop with your finger pointing and excuses, just STOP.
@James Edward, really? Because an organization has the word “conservative” in it, that makes it conservative, even with the GOP repudiates it, and every other conservative organization repudiates it?
See, the difference here, James, is liberals DON’T repudiate extreme left-wing terrorist groups. Constantly, they try to excuse their behavior.
Name one person who is trying to excuse this guy’s behavior.
Craig no one excuses it but people like James want to divide, and look at the constant hatred from him. I think perhaps he’s a worry and someone should be notified. He certainly worries me.
James, a right-wing organization cannot be a nazi organization. Naziism is socialism, as in national socialist party, which is a left wing ideology. I realize that you are probably so far into the Kool aid that socialism looks right wing, but we on the right have more in common with anarchists, in the real sense–not the awkward communistic thing that calls itself that, than any Keynesian model of society.
I think James Edwards and Dylann Stormdoor are radical bigots cut from the same cloth; they both subscribe to a philosophy of hatred toward those who disagree with them.
Yes nazis, white supremacy, belongs to you James. Slavery, segregation belongs to you James. Perhaps someone should look into James because your hatred is not right.
V the k, from what I’ve read and seen the church shooter was a drug addict, not making excuses for him at all. But James has decades of hatred, he’s fosters it and preaches it.
I really don’t want to be too morbid about this, but if a white supremacy group really wanted to do something like this, the death toll would have been a heck of a lot higher than 9.
The KKK were founded by the Democrats, right?
Uh-oh, I sense a possible “narrative collapse” coming on.
I was thinking about addressing some of James Edwards’ “points” but then thought better of wasting my time. The cat needs petting and I need to check the mailbox.
To use lefty logic, the black guy (who shall remain nameless because these people need to be “unpersons” – remembered only as murderers) who shot eight people at the beer distributorship back in 2010 indicts progressives (who are not “liberal” in any meaningful way) since they fanned his paranoia about racism.
The Charleston shooter has already garnered far more attention than he’s worth. Try him. Convict him. Hang him. Care for the victims. Move on.
V the k understood by most, unfortunately it’s not limited to those groups. Hatred comes in all forms. James exemplifies that.
Hate and threats isn’t only reported one way James. You’re a threat to society.
Colorado mass church shooting, anyone heard of it?
James Edward, I’m seriously afraid of your comments, home grown terrorist? You’re level of hatred is alarming.
But it isn’t a philosophy of hate to call gay people pedophiles, or to call Muslims “Mohamadians,” nor is it a philosophy of hate to attack Obama. All of the is fine in the world of conservatives.
However, pointing out that a white conservative who committed an act of terrorism isnt being called a terrorist nor is conservatism being attack in the same way Islam is after an Islamic terror attack now that is a philosophy of hate.
Only conservative is capable of such intellectual dishonesty
And nobody here has called all gay people pedophiles, James Edwards. Some here have called you a paedophile, but I am not privy to that information so I refrain. Just stop with the broad brush painting without facts to back yourself up. You make yourself look very foolish.
Criticizing Obama isn’t hate.
Criticizing gay people for celebrating paedophiles like Harry Hay and Allen Ginsburg is not hate.
“Mohammedan” is not an epithet, but an accurate descriptor.
It is deranged to claim otherwise.
Yet you James say, with no proof at all, that this was a conservative
and all conservatives and republicans are bad. Because he MUST be a republican of course, although he posted pics of flag burning. But Moslems shouldn’t all be held responsible for Boston bombers. No I don’t think they should. But why is it ok with you to hold all republicans, conservatives, Christians, whites, responsible for one?
And what in the world with you and gays and pedophiles? Stay on topic please. And no one said pedophiles are ok, but you appear to have some fascination with it. The rest of us want to comment on something else. So far youre a pedophile, and terrorist.
Then attacking Conservatives isn’t hate
Then criticizing Christians for the murder of gay people isn’t hate
Then Christian terrorist isn’t an epithet, but an accurate descriptor
It’s deranged to claim otherwise
Because people like you, VTK, NDT, and the other deranged commenters believe it’s okay to call gay people pedophiles.
It matters to this topic because the conservative ideology is an ideology of hatred towards non- White Male Heterosexual Christians. That ideology is responsible for this terrorist attack.
Calling gay people pedophiles, as you have done enables and strengths the conservative ideology.
Yet no one has said that, ever, please show me one post where I have said that like you throw out. Just one. I’ll even make it easy, where does anyone say pedoplia is ok and all gays are pedophiles. Please link.
In the meantime please let us talk, and take your hatred elsewhere. It’s not wanted here or anywhere. Get off of my world.
Wow, what six year old taught James Edward the nuances of the, “No I’m not, you are” argument?
Is that the best of response you can muster.
If attacking Obama isn’t hate then neither is attacking Conservatives. You claim the latter is.
If accusing gay people of supporting/being pedophiles isn’t hate then neither is criticizing Christians for the murder of gay people. You claim the latter is.
If calling Muslims “Mohammedan” is not an epithet, but an accurate descriptor then calling Christians terrorist isn’t an epithet either. Yet again you claim the later is.
Can your feeble conservative thug mind manage a response. Or is you thug mind only capable of simplistic retorts?
You just called me a pedophile. NDT and Livewire do the same.
VTK predicted that a gay couple would eventually be exposed for child molestation.
Moreover, VTK promotes an article claiming
So we have blog posters who call gay people pedophiles and we have the blog owner claiming and linking articles that claim gay people are pedophiles.
This is all relevant because conservatives want to claim that their ideology isn’t to blame for the terrorist attack. Yet this same ideology promotes hate against non-White Heterosexual Male conservatives.
Wow, JM you’re one messed up dude!
I have been trying to make sense of this kid in South Carolina going into a black church prayer meeting and shooting so many people, and I have been lost.
Until I kept reading. And I read that this putz put a “manifesto” (God I hate that word) on the internet so I pored over it.
Here is the thing. He wrote about his hatred for blacks and lots of other races. He wrote about his admiration for Rwanda, and slavery and South African apartheid. He wrote about how he wanted to join a group that would finally put things right.
But he couldn’t find that group. He actually complained that he could not find enough KKK, white supremacists or racists to help him. HERE IN AMERICA HE COULD NOT FIND A GROUP THAT HATED AS MUCH AS HE DID.
Isn’t that the most amazing thing you can imagine? Despite what the damn media may be telling you, he could not find a group of haters to join and kill with.
No matter how many times NBC or ABC or CBS may decry our heritage and the American people, a true hater could not find a compatriot.
I am so sorry for the people that were killed, for their families, for their friends. But I am also so proud to live in a country that could find no quarter for that low life scumbag.
So here’s the deal. If you make a living off racial hatred, or if you want to be famous for racial hatred, know this: We don’t give a fuck for you. We are Americans.
Anne Staskelunas
LOL.
I repeat what I said last time; James Edward is throwing an epic tantrum because frankly, he’s a bigot and a racist.
Y’all are trying logic on a position that was never logical in the first place and rational argument on an irrational person. As you can see, James Edward has way too much invested in any excuse whatsoever to hate conservatives and Christians and white and heterosexual people to the point of dehumanization. Like Stormdoor (I love that, btw), he simply is beyond the point where anything you say to him is going to stick; conversely, y’all need to realize that he is going to say anything, and I mean ANYTHING, to deflect, divert, delay, spin, or move the conversation away from the point.
So why bother with him? He’s going to throw fits, he ignores facts, and he frankly ruins any attempt at intelligent discussion. He’s going to ramp up the namecalling, because that’s what he does, and because he was so thoroughly humiliated at Hot Air yesterday I’ll bet he’s not back for weeks. 🙂
Tilly and Craig, glad you’re here. Keep going.
Exactly, NDT. We’re not dealing with a rational individual, we’re dealing with a tantrum thrower of limited intellectual candlepower.
That said, if you have a link to his humiliation on HotAir, I would enjoy reading that.
Thanks Anne. PERFECT point.
You hit on what I’ve noticed most today…..Stormdoor had accomplices, but they weren’t white supremacists — they were the race-baiters and agitators like James Edward who were looking for a fight, who want to start a race war, and the people like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and the Democrats who want to incite one for power purposes.
The families of the nine short-circuited that right off the bat — and of course, then the race-baiters and agitators turned to the flag, toward spreading lies, toward everything they could to incite racial hatred.
To those who have eyes, the world is not full of Stormdoors…..but if the race-baiters and agitators continue to scream and push that all white conservative Christian heterosexuals are racist and evil, they will create more. Yours is a reminder that there ARE decent people in this world, that Stormdoor was a horrible aberration, and that the lesson to be taken away from this is that the James Edwards and the Democrats of the world can only make us hate each other if we let them — and if we fail to confront them.
Nevermind, found it.
Holeee Crap… that is weapons-grade crazy.
If Dylann Roof can be nicknamed “Stormdoor,” I propose that James Edward also have a catchy low-intellect bigot nickname; how about “Backdoor?”
*yawn* Is our self admitted paedophile whining we’re taking him at his word again?
As you can see above, James Edwards believes if one person allegedly in a group does/believes something, then all members of the group do something.
Since he clearly believes this to be true, because NAMBLA exists, James Edward beliwves that he, like all gay men, are Paedophiles.
Thus again, by his own standards, he’s said he’s a paedophile.
Why is it wrong to take the self admitted paedophile at his word?
And, as a reminder… Most everyone condemns this kid’s terrorism, but our self admitted paedophile won’t even say buggering kids is wrong.
This is much more important
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l569/rusty98119/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpswzcell1k.jpg
Well at least now we know how the media would react if Omar Thornton and the 9 whites he murdered after being fired for stealing cases of beer from work would be covered if the races were reversed.
The conservative treehouse did some good investigation. 1/4 of his facebook friends are black and he voted for Obama. So he must have just recently realized that he will never meet a black in real life as smart as seen on TV. Possiblly with the Carter Strange 1year anniversary, 8 blacks beating a jogger nearly to death in the same area of Charleston exactly a year before. There was also a minor local news story 10 days earlier of 5yo white Allison Griffor killed by 4 blacks in Charleston.
NRA takes the high road and decides not to politicize the tragedy:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/06/18/3671649/nra-board-member-blames-charleston-victim-death/
Roof was a Confederate. What could that mean? I suppose he could have been a Dimocrat. But, then, what are the chances? Let’s play the numbers.
I’d like to propose the following:
Whenever James Edwards gets butthurt over being called a paedophile (which I assume means someone who thinks it’s okay to have sexual relations with a minor, as opposed to a pedophile, which is a clinical term for someone who has sexual attraction to prepubescent children), we simply post the definition of the term along with quotes from JE which back up the use of the definition.
I also propose that JE post his repudiation of his own statements. I mean, people are allowed to admit when they are wrong, after all.
CrayCray, are you and James Edward one in the same? We all know that you visit under different handles, but I never suspected you of being James Edward until you started in on Roof being a Confederate and posting “think progress.org” propaganda.
It is imbecilic to really, really want Roof to be a knuckle dragging redneck racist acting on direct orders from God and the NRA. Apparently, you need some sort of affirmation in your bigotry against Southern White Trash and Born Again Segregationists.
This Roof character is an out of touch with reality squirrelly fool who belongs in the Occupy Wall Street crowd of rebels with an inane cause. He is not a catalyst for politically motivated armed rebellion.
But you need him to be your own special definition of evil in order to satisfy your inner lust for superiority.
Dylann Storm Roof is a mental case who took an unremarkable gun and sat with his victims for a lengthy time before assassinating them in cold blood. In a sane world, “why” he did it is not an issue. The sane world, by definition, can not comprehend insane acts.
What is the point in trying to pile up theories of “who” he actually “is” and “why” he did the nasty deed? Are you one of those holocaust deniers, 9-11 truthers, or 1% haters? Do you have to have a conspiracy theory in order to help you understand pure evil?
Helio,
No, I am not the same as James Edward. I have never used more than one handle at a time. I’ve been CrayCrayPatriot, C***S***** (the name of my blog which I have invested four years of my life into), and variations on my real name, both of which I stopped using once a certain poster on here (whom you often agree with and support) began spreading lies about me. I haven’t posted anything on Roof until this weekend. And I’ve been using the CrayCray handle for most of this year. You and I have been interacting for a good five years, and I’ve always been clear with you (and others) as far as my identity is concerned.
You actually once told me years ago on here you loved me.
Christian love is not parceled according to whim.
Exactly how is fascism and the KKK tied in with left wing ideology? It seems like they’re both very extreme ends of both which is f***ed!
Does Christian love involve confusing someone on a whim with someone else who many on here have labeled a pedophile?
CrayCray, you can do so much better in the logic and thinking department than you settle for. I don’t have to respect how you go about your mangled ideological spewings. I hate the sin, but lover the sinner. Even James Edward who keeps throwing himself off the cliff.
Vince, need we remind you that James Edward sees himself (and you, and V, and NDT and every gay man) as a paedophile by the views he holds? Holding him to his own standards of evidence is just something the self-admitted paedophile doesn’t like.
Helio,
For future reference, please do not confuse me with any other poster than the handle I post under. I’ve been posting under CrayCrayPatriot for the last five or six months, and will continue to do so until further notice. If I have personally disrespected you in any way that doesn’t warrant respecting my request, please let me know. Thank you.
TLW,
I was not present for how that all originally went down between you and James Edward, so I do not want to be involved or make comment. That’s between you and him. Thank you.
And, for what it’s worth, VTK has identified as “bi.”
Ewwww…..has anyone else heard about this?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/06/22/report-leader-of-white-supremacist-group-apparently-linked-to-suspected-charleston-killer-donated-thousands-to-republican-campaigns/
Hey James, guess what?
http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/clinton-foundation-accepted-25000-known-pedophile_823330.html
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/23/politics/terry-bean-sex-abuse-charges/
So you can just f*ck off.
We know this game, and we know whore Democrats Ike you will scream and piss and cry if anyone DARED pull the same on you. That’s because you’re all filthy anorak hypocrites and racists.
So you don’t get to lecture us. You’re a malicious liar, and the American public is sick of you and your white-liberal lies and race-baiting.
North Dallas troll, I’m not a Democrat but there has been cases of Republicans and even Democrats taking donations from the KKK. So you can go buy me some potatoes! Drop dead, you impetuous wonderful troll! You probably play croquet with kkk men.
[Mr. James’s replay was filled with the kind of naughty language that weak-minded people use when they want to seem forceful, so a few edits were made. I hope it’s clear which parts were edited]
[Also, while both parties may have taken money from people in the Klan, but only one party has put klansmen in the senate and on the Supreme Court; and it weren’t the Republicans]
You’re all a bunch of losers anyway just like Dylan.
I’m with Romney though, the confederate flag should be taken down.
I agree with North Dallas Thirty. His statement said that he could find no one in The Big Bad South who was evil and racist enough to satisfy him.
And what kind of conservative burns the American flag and says that he hates America? The kind that’s made out of straw? And the Nazis were left-wing. They were socialist and favored big government. They talked all the freaking time about Marx and socialism and implementing Marx’s ideas and Utopia.
“Oh well they weren’t really socialis-”
Bullshit. Socialism can’t work in the real world anymore than a floating island or three-sided triangles can work in the real world. It’s pure make believe.
And IA with Joe and Romney: the Confederate flag has to go. I don’t even know why they want it. Most rednecks are poor, and the Confederates wielded tyrannical power over poor whites (or anyone in slave owning states who didn’t own slaves, which automatically excluded the bottom 95%), so I don’t see what their point is.
Hmm, moral quandry. When a self admitted paedophile calls someone a loser, is it an insult or a compliment?