John Nolte has a point, if you’re on the wrong side of gay marriage or any other agenda items, then this is the flag of your oppressor. This is the flag they waved as they took away your business, made you lose your job, or vandalized your church.
This Confederate Battle Emblem business isn’t really about sparing people’s feelings, or ending discrimination. It’s about showing who has political power, and who doesn’t. And I have proof for this proposition.
Yes, the rainbow flag has become a symbol of bigotry and hate towards heterosexuals. It’s time to ban it’s public display.
New form of tranny Trans-credentialed- Harvard & Stanford graduate in a community college girls body.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/undocumented-studier-who-only-wants-the-korean-american-dream-is-shamed-by-harvard-and-stanford/
The funny thing is that here, Alaska, we still have the gay pride people, an actual non profit, doing fund raising and what not even after getting gay marriage. I have to ask why. The goal of the organization has been achieved. It is almost like there is some OTHER purpose or something.
The ramped up war on Confederate flags is just a proxy war against all things White. And The Most Foolish People On The Planet think they are show how high minded they are to accelerate our own destruction. By people who could never do it without our cooperation.
I often wonder if most gay activists are actually extremely insecure about their own identity.
This isn’t about legal equality. Recall that after the Supreme Court of California ruled that all that Proposition 8 did was reserve the term “married” to heterosexuals, and did not deny gays or lesbians any other legal rights, that the activists were outraged. What? Outraged over a ruling that said they were equal, but could not call themselves married? Why? Simple: because it isn’t about equality. It never was. Oh, they will SAY that it is, but their outrage of the ruling shows that to be a lie. A lie to themselves as well as everyone else.
No, this is about equivalency. They want the world to see Matt and Pat Kiddle with their adopted children and see them in exactly the same light as Ma and Pa Kettle and their born, bred, and raised children. In other words, they want the world to see an illusion. An illusion of their own making. An illusion that is not reality.
Why would they want this? I can come to only one conclusion: they are not able to accept themselves, and blame the world for this.
No, the fact that millions of gays are perfectly at home with what they are–are more than willing to let the world view them however they like, as long as they don’t harm or discriminate unnecessarily–that fact is irrelevant to them. They blame the world for their own poor self-image, and damn it, they are going to change the world so they can accept themselves.
There is a psychological definition for such an attitude, but the name of it slips my mind.
“There is a psychological definition for such an attitude” I think they call it adolescents.
“The ramped up war on Confederate flags is just a proxy war against all things White”
What are “all things white?” Please explain further
The multiculturalist have finally found a culture they hate. Not the Islamist culture that rapes little girls and decapitates POW’s with primer cord. Not urban Thug Culture that glorifies violence against women and bad lifestyle choices. That’s all just groovy with them. But white southern culture? Begin the ethnic cleansing!
Oh, but if only the Confederates’ history was as glorious as the Suthrons claim…
Now the US embassy in London is flying the rainbow flag http://datechguyblog.com/2015/06/24/the-other-flag-controversy-us-embassy-in-london-flies-the-rainbow-flag/
For the leftist 2-3%ers and their 2-3%ers enablers on the right, is there really any difference between the rainbow and red, white and black? Still the same people, different time in history……fortunately, their numbers are known….
I have something I’ve wanted to share with the community for a while now:
There is an Episcopalian church behind where I work. I am not a member (nor even an Episcopalian). They have been flying a rainbow flag for some time. The old flag was excessively worn, and I thought about anonymously donating a replacement, but when I looked inside, I found GLAAD and similar propaganda, so I decided to leave well enough alone. The flag was finally replaced a month or two ago.
Since that time, the church has been flying the new rainbow flag upside-down. Every time that I see it, I have to fight the urge to check inside, find the pastor, and ask if the church is in distress. Whenever I read reports of attacks on Christians and churches by radicalized, militant homosexuals I cringe and think of them.
Do I offer my help, or mind my own business?
#9 “But white southern culture”
V you hit the nail on the head to as why this flag should be taken down from all public buildings and why indeed its a hateful symbol that everyone should be against.
As VtheK says, it celebrates southern WHITE culture which was based upon the enslavement and oppression of people of color.
@Sathar
Do you know the single biggest difference between the strategies employed by the left and the right? Politeness. The left has no problem harassing and vilifying people, while the right, and I do agree with the epistemological side of it, tries to respect the other side’s ideas. While this works with sane people, and is strictly better in a vacuum, it has ostensibly failed of late.
I say go and find out. We need to do something, and the sane gay people should probably start that something for reasons which I will not expound upon here. Who knows, maybe the church is just fine?
@ mike
Seriously? ALL public buildings? Like museums?
@ mike: Less than 1.4% of all White Americans owned slaves. Less than 5% of Southern Whites owned slaves. 28% of freed Blacks owned slaves. William Ellison was a former slave who turned around became the largest Black slave owner in South Carolina, and gave financial support to the Confederate war effort.
Terrible things have been done by the flags of all countries. Shall we ban the American flag for the displacement of the American Indians? Should the British be forced to ban the Union Jack for their brutal actions in America, Scotland, Ireland, India, etc?
The Confederate flag is complex. Many people who fought for the South despised slavery, but they felt loyalty to their state and their neighbors, and felt that the federal government was grossly overstepping its boundaries. Not unlike many conservatives and libertarians today. What if, in 50 years, people decided that the Gadsen flag was a hate symbol because some conservatives thought that same-sex marriage should be left up to the states?
You got it.
I’m a Northerner (as opposed to a Yankee) born and raised, going back almost 400 years, but, damn, all of a sudden I want to see Lee’s flag flown.
mike conveniently forgets the fact that slave ownership started with Africans. Africans sold other Africans into slavery. Africans still own slaves.
Another weird historical fact. The first slave owned in the American Colonies was a white man bought by a black man.
But littleletter mike and all the other cultural leftists will still celebrate and defend Urban Thug Culture that celebrates violence against women, drug use, and gunplay.
#23 and homophobia…
When I was in college at a conservative institution in Texas in the early 1980s, I had arguments, some not so nice, about the Confederate flag. Why do people rehash what occurred well over a hundred years ago? I thought it was wrong back then, I am a conservative.
The gay flag has outlived its usefulness. I had one that I put on display in the 1990s, but it is so passe now. Plus, homosexuals are generally accepted, so why put it out at all?
To demonstrate who has political power (gays) and who does not (southern whites.)
Sorry to all who are griping here, but the tide of history is marching in the direction of LGBT rights. The Confederate flag celebrates a failed venture that happened more than 100 years ago. The rainbow flag is a celebration of today. I am proud of the fact that US embassies all around the world have been flying the rainbow flag and supporting Pride events.
Historians have turned Henry Ford into a coarse and unenlightened crank. That is because he is eternally misquoted as saying “history is bunk” and so historians feel compelled to sucker punch him whenever possible. The quote in context was made in 1916: “History is more or less bunk. It’s tradition. We don’t want tradition. We want to live in the present, and the only history that is worth a tinker’s damn is the history we make today.”
Ford went on to complain that history books don’t deal with the type of harrows the founding fathers used to till the land. His point was that guns, treaties, wars, and speeches don’t feed the people, grow the economy and raise the standard of living.
In one narrow sense, the Progressives and Ford are on the same track. It is not the symbols of tradition which matter, it the application of what grows out of tradition that improves our lives that matters. Where Ford and Progressives part ways is that Ford didn’t care a hoot about hurt feelings, he cared about invention and improving the ability of each man to enjoy more consumption while lessening his dependence on his own manpower. Never in a million years would Ford have actually considered the transfer of wealth as an entitlement.
A mere 6% of the African slave that landed in the Western Hemisphere were brought to North America. Nearly 3/4ths of the roughly 16 million transported slaves were taken to Brazil. All imports of slaves in North America ended in 1808. Yet in 1860, about 2/3rds of the slaves in the Western Hemisphere were in the American South. Slave cotton made up more than 50% of all US exports and provided nearly all the cotton used in the textile factories of the north which were concentrated in New England. Those factories depended on child labor, young girls who were all but owned by the textile companies and, of course, the slave grown cotton.
The actual facts of the US cotton economy and reducing the Civil War to bumper sticker philosophy is an example of Henry Ford’s “history is more or less bunk” and his harrow theory. Einstein cautioned that “everything should be made as simple as possible – but not simpler.” Well, we have successfully over-simplified the Civil War, the battle flag and demagogued pure emotion out of all proportion.
I am struck by the term “tide of history” used in #27 above. I would side with Ford and brand the concept of “the tide of history” as bunk. History does not make us, we make history in the present and then it becomes whatever the revisionist historians wish to make of it.
The rainbow flag is farce except as an in-your-face statement to people who do not consider gays to be entitled to the terms of the 14th Amendment which guarantee due process and equal protections under the law to all citizens of the US.
The Stars and Bars is a memento of the deep past and it was hauled out in the 1960’s by Democrat Fritz Hollings who was Governor of South Carolina to fly over the Columbia Capitol as an in-your-face middle finger aimed at Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy and the civil rights movement.
The fact that anyone thinks either a battle flag or a rainbow flag has some sort of transcendental power which emanates from the penumbra of blah, blah, blah…..
Sorry, pumpkin, but that stupid rainbow flag is a celebration of malignant narcissism. The fact that you’re “proud” of it is a profound indictment of your character.
Aren’t you arguing that Karl can’t interpret the flag differently than you?
Isn’t that what the Liberal Left is doing to the confederate flag? They’re arguing that the flag can’t be construed as anything but white racial pride and bigotry. Yet, others will say it is a harmless old relic of the past.
So, you’re lowering yourself to the level of the Liberal Left, no?
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Because bullying works. Terrorism works.
Indeed, CrayCray, you have screamed and pissed that the liberal left’s “lowered” actions are correct.
The Israelis understand this well. They understand that leftist bigots like you hate them and will smear them no matter what they do, while Palestinians can murder Jews with impunity and you will clap and cheer.
So since nothing the Israelis can do will change your bigoted mind or behavior, they will act in the fashion that preserves the most lives, and that is destroying the Palestinian terrorists regardless of what you think.
Why would I clap and cheer when Palestinians murder Israeli Jews? That’s an awful thing to say. I have friends who live in Hadera and Tel Aviv. You’re an @sshole.
Because, CrayCray, you are a Democrat first, a liberal gay second, and a human being dead last, which means anti-Jewish hatred is what your party espouses and what your sexual orientation requires you to follow. Duh.
You’re an @sshole first and foremost if you think I would clap and cheer over the death of my friends.
LOL, I’ve seen you clap and cheer over telling gay conservatives who you claimed were your friends to kill themselves and worse.
Links please.