A group of Diabolists are unveiling an eight-foot statue of Satan; supposedly to raise awareness of the “Separation of Church and State,” the doctrine that entered American jurisprudence because of Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black, a Klansman who did it because he hated Roman Catholics .
But I digress.
According to the Satanic Temple, the 1-ton, nearly 9-foot-tall bronze idol will be unveiled only in Detroit. Ultimately, the group hopes to have it placed permanently next to a sculpture of the Ten Commandments monument now in place near a state courthouse in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, or outside Arkansas’ Statehouse in Little Rock, where a Ten Commandments monument also is planned.
See, this is really about Christians in the nose, and also about getting attention from daddy, and about showing society that “we’re rebels and we don’t follow your rules, man.”
Tiresome. Although they may achieve their goal of offending a few Christians, I think most of us will regard them as spoiled children acting out and feel sorry for them.
On its website, organizers are promising a “hedonistic celebration” and a “night of chaos, noise and debauchery” at the Detroit unveiling.
Of course, they did.
Not surprising that its happening in Detroit. It’s spread a hellhole.
I meant “its pretty much a hellhole.” My phone typed in spread.
Don’t feel sorry for adults acting stupid as a box of rocks. Nor will I have a bit of pity for such. A waste of time, that.
So, they are satanists … unless it is Weber’s Armagh branch, they won’t mind someone showing up and sending as many of them to hell as possible, right?
Or are they like all anarchists and only happy if THEY are the ones who are doing the acts against others? Nothing says chaos like sending them to meet their master.
Not that I believe a bit of that God/Satan rigmarole, being a small A atheist.
Jefferson was the first to use the phrase “wall between church and State,” but he was referring to government being kept from interfering in the affairs of religious groups, not the complete divorce of religion and State.
Black obviously meant it to apply only to Catholics, being a good bigoted Protestant who hated those seditious, drunken Irish Papists ruining the country. The fact that there are still many public schools in the South where religion is considered a part of daily routine shows that he had it in for Catholics; “real” Christians were, of course, exempt from the scrutiny of the State.
The sad thing is no one looks at the arguments over the word “religion” from the Constitutional Congress.
➤ Separation of Church and State
All liberals are spoiled children. I know whereof I speak: I was 19 the summer of Woodstock, but I wasn’t partying in rural New York. I was in summer school, having fallen behind in my pre-med requirements [got an A in the course]. The Vietnam war protestors, the in-your-face libs of the day, were largely idle, bored trust fund kids [boy, did the hate capitalism; but daddy’s dirty money was sure handy to buy drugs with].
@ 6 Was the anti war movement originally started by preppy college students and then the hippies came into that scene and denigrated it with drugs and mind altering substances?
The anti war movement was started by Soviet agents and their useful idiots.
“I think most of us will regard them as spoiled children acting out and feel sorry for them.”
Now you know how Mainstream Americans feel when the right wing crazy does their childish gun rights protests, bundy ranch protest, and your whiney cries of “tyranny” when a judge ruling doesn’t go your way.
Maybe that is why you hate those Satanists protecting their rights so much. Its like looking in the mirror for you waco rightists isn’t it?
The prose in Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists contains one meandering sentence which ends with a concept that is often ignored:
There is a “wall” of separation “built” between church and state. Clearly, the “wall” is not described. Is it “So high you can’t get over it,. So low you can’t get under it,. So wide you can’t get ‘ round it?” And in keeping with the lyrics, is there a door? or a window? Is it a barrier or a line of demarkation?
Since we have been pushed and pulled into using this wall metaphor as if it is some sort of sanctified Constitutional appendage, it would seem best to have an understanding of how walls differ. As it stands, too many people see it as some sort of impenetrable barrier. That would be a good description of theocratic Islam. In Iran you have the bureaucratic state and you have the Mullahs. The puny state does NOT regulate the mullahs. That is an impenetrable wall of separation.
!. Right wing crazy (sic) does their gun rights protests: Are we talking about refining the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms understandings or is there some other presumed authority at play in this rant?
2. bundy (sic) ranch protest: The BLM dispatched a heavily armed force and air support in order to attempt to round up cattle owned by Bundy in the process of trying to end a civil dispute between Bundy over decades old disputes about grazing rights. The BLM wimped out when armed citizens confronted them. The BLM has stonewalled Freedom of Information Act requests to release of details of why the BLM felt it necessary to take the Bundy cattle by force. The stalemate continues. So, apparently, when the government runs out of patience in its demands, the citizen must acquiesce and take a beating, whether it is lawful or not.
3. When a judge’s ruling doesn’t go your (sic) way, the right wing crazy (sic) utters “whiney calls of tyranny.” Apparently, there is no such thing as Judicial “tyranny” in littlelettermike’s world of Big Brotherism. How’s that Dred Scott thing working for you, littlelettermike?
4) Mainstream Americans feel the opposite of right wing crazy. Well, Hell, littlelettermike, abort them. They don’t qualify in your grand scheme of tolerance and diversity. Get your hobnailed boots on, slap your swastika on your arm and round the defectives up and exterminate them. Dear me but we need intellectual elites like you to sweep the human debris off of the critically global super-heating of the planet.
If you could round up just one more wit, you would be within reach of becoming a full blown half-wit.
Apparently, there is no such thing as Judicial “tyranny” in littlelettermike’s world of Big Brotherism.
Not as long as the tyranny is hitting other people.
The fact is that gun rights are supported by 66%+ majorities, tougher immigration laws are supported by 70% of Americans, and similar majorities support restrictions on abortions after 20 weeks.
The spoiled, shrieking extremists are llm and his radical left cohorts.
VtK and HT: The only “Judicial Activism” they see is when the judicial says the law is what it says, not some out of step, out of context thing they want.
@7: thx for noting my ‘alleged words of wisdom,’ Joe. The U.S. government did violate the trust of the people in escalating the Vietnam war, and there were sincere students and academics in the anti-war debate early on. By the time it became the anti-war movement, it was virtually all hype, idlers, and mob rule. The MSM like to pin the war on Republican Nixon, but it was Democrat Johnson who got us in to it in a way that took years to extricate, and set us up to fail.
And there you have it. Because individuality and compassion are views that differ from Christian and conservative beliefs, right? And the Westboro Baptist Church is, as the reader is led to believe, a conservative Christian group, right?
OK, I think everyone is missing the most important point here. I they deliver on their promise of at “night of chaos, noise and debauchery” in Detroit, how will we know???
When the Satanists can prove that their religion has as much influence on American Jurisprudence as The Ten Commandments and the Codex of Hammurabi, they might have something.
I don’t feel sorry for these people. I loathe those that remain children into adulthood.
Apparently, this Satanic Temple group is not related to the Church of Satan, the group founded by Anton LeVay.
Basically, the Satanic Temple folks are the militant anti-theists to the Church of Satan folks’ Objectivists.
Fewer rapes, murders, gunshots, and fires in that part of town on that night?
What they are missing is the Ten Commandments are actually a historical system of law, which was used in the United States Historical, or at least in the colonies. There are totem poles featuring Raven in front of the courthouse in Alaska, and no one has whined about it.