Obama is having the Pope over for dinner. This is not surprising, ideologically the Pope and the Preezy are two peas in a socialist pod. However, Obama decided to be a **** and invite a bunch of people who oppose Catholic Church doctrine to dinner as well.
On the eve of Pope Francis’s arrival in the U.S., the Vatican has taken offense at the Obama administration’s decision to invite to the pope’s welcome ceremony transgender activists, the first openly gay Episcopal bishop and an activist nun who leads a group criticized by the Vatican for its silence on abortion and euthanasia.
Can you imagine Obama hosting the leadership of Cuba and inviting anti-Communist dissidents? I cannot.
Since Obama wanted to troll the Pope, why not go the distance and invite these esteemed members of the LGBT community and Democrat Coalition:
Why is the pope coming here anyway to lecture our country, in Spanish, that we should we welcome everyone and capitalism is evil. Why is this allowed? Then because of death threats, from Muslims, we US tax payers have to pay for security for that aggorant ass. Ok, open the doors to Vatican City, ditch the Swiss guard. He’s the head of the catholic church, not all Christians. Although Obama has proven himself there.
I think president thin skin, mentally ill, doesn’t like the visit, not because as CiC he shouldn’t. But because it’s not aboUt him. So he has to bring in someone to insult because he’s perpetually insulted.
What does that say about our country that the mentally ill and perpetual victim was elected to the highest office.
And to the pope, as a catholic, bite me. Stay in Vatican City, stop this I’m great shit while preaching Jesus and ignoring persecutions of Christians world wide, including USA. Stop, just stop you arrogant asshole.
Another gay man thrown to his death by ISIS. Where is Obama, where is the pope?
Sorry this is all over, I’m just so mad about so much.
This makes Obama look like an asshole.
I’m sure if he held an event for gay activist group he would invite the members of FRC or Westboro Baptist Church.
Of if he had a leader thr NAACP he would invite the president of Bob Jones and David Duke.
I’ve long believed Obama was a narcissistic know it all but we can add asshole to the list now too.
Tilly I’m not Catholic but I’m pretty sure the Pope has been one of the few world leaders (and the Pope is the leader of Vatican City as well as the church) to speak out against the persecution of Christians-especially those in Africa and the Middle East. He just doesn’t have power to do much other than condemn.
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“As Army secretary, he would be partnered with Gen. Mark Milley, who took over as the Army’s top general in August. ”
So now they have made gay marriage mandatory in the military.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-to-nominate-first-openly-gay-service-secretary-to-lead-the-army/2015/09/18/d4b1aafe-5e30-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html
Just me thank you for taking the time to type such a thoughtful reply. You and I definitely disagree, but in reality we could have coffee and like each other. I don’t see that so much anymore.
I read your reply and although it differs from me, you understood. Where’s that everywhere?
Here’s a staring common thread, although different options that should be allowed, what is so striking , there is conversation, and there is liberal shutting it down.
Here’s an example of great liberals.
Yesterday I was at the vet, and the phone kept ringing for the respectionist. She said something about it and her kids being so disrespectful because they call and report her and she goes to jail. But she gave up..
I’ll say this: Francis is making certain members of my family consider learning Greek/Russian.
That said, Obama owes more respect to the head of Western Civilization’s oldest continuing institution than this. Whatever my gripes with the Catholic Church on matters of cosmology and ethics, I still pick them over the Progressive sideshow.
Sean L @ 6: I’m thinking the same thing, and actively exploring various Orthodox churches in my area. I’ve had enough.
Seriously?! After two years of what assuredly won’t be a twenty-year papacy? Glad I don’t manufacture toothpaste to sell to your household.
At least I hope you weren’t one of those “Santo Subito!” dolts who thought St Pope John Paul walked on water (and did it better than Jesus); under who’s reign the majority of the priest sex abuse was revealed.
@ RSG: Francis has been orthodox on matters of doctrine up until now. It’s when he starts talking about pretty much anything else that he starts getting annoying. I still can’t figure out how buying air conditioners in a tropical environment is supposed to be evil.
We’ll see what happens at the council at the end of the year. If Francis holds the line on doctrine, all will be well. If he has the Church capitulate, you’ll probably see people leave the Church.
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Geez, don’t go Orthodox because of Pope Francis. At least he’s not a Borgia.
Besides, the Orthodox reject filioque.
@ Acacia: Technically not true.
Filioque was not part of the original Nicene Creed; it went, “I believe in the Holy Spirit … who proceeds from the Father, and with the Father he is adored and glorified.”
This is how the Nicene Creed was recited for centuries in both the West and the East. Filioque was an innovation introduced by a regional creed used in Spain. Apparently, people learning about the faith thought that the phrasing designated Jesus as a subordinate member of the Trinity, which obviously not the case; filioque was added to stress that, yes, the Catholic Church teaches that Jesus the Son is coequal with the Father and the Spirit. Eventually, an ecumenical council decided that filioque ought to be added to the official creed.
The reason the Orthodox reject filioque isn’t so much out of any true doctrinal disagreement, rather a matter of protocol, as they see it. To the Orthodox, an ecumenical council requires the entire Church, and since the West and East are technically both the “true” Church (they are both Nicene and both maintain apostolic succession), the continued schism means that no declaration made by a “ecumenical” council is valid in their mind. It’s doubtful that the Orthodox would have any real problems with any of doctrines coming out of the ecumenicals since the Schism (papal infallibility being the obvious exception).
I wonder if he would invite these same people if the Saudi King, or some other Muslim Diplomat was coming to the WH?? I think NOT!! He is just sticking a stick into the eyes of the Catholics….
The entourage of “specifically included” invited guests has the stink of “in your face” about it. They are are all humans, but humans with an agenda. Therefore, they represent political turmoil and dissidence. Can the Pope bless them and pray for their souls? You bet! I wonder if Obama and his clown car of political lepers can do the same for the Pope?
I would be delighted to see the Pope bless Obama and each of the key antagonists and then turn around and limo out of there. That way he could avoid being hectored to by the Socialist in Chief.
“Can you imagine Obama hosting the leadership of Cuba and inviting anti-Communist dissidents? I cannot.”
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You mistyped. It should have been:
“Can you imagine Obama inviting anti-Communist dissidents? I cannot.”
Francis and Obama are on the same page, radical socialism, climate change, and open borders for unlimited immigration. I don’t know who contacted whom but it appears that the Pope was intermediary so that Obama could revive diplomatic relations with Cuba. Francis is elevating liberal bishops to the rank of cardinal and packing the curia with liberals, to support his leftist agenda. He has spoken kindly about gays and lesbians, while he does not support gay marriage but he does speak favorably about gays living in a monogamous relationship and having legal status, in other words, civil union. Once the liberals have an overwhelming majority in the curia, I would not be surprised that he will authorize the ordination of women to the priesthood and possibly to the bishopric, as has done the Episcopal Church and some other branches in the Anglican Communion.
The last liberal pope, was Pope John Paul I, who lasted 31 days, until somebody laced his tea with cyanide or some other poison. (Read In God’s Name by David Yallop). I wonder if Francis has an official taster.
Roberto: Honestly, I don’t see the big deal about ordaining women. Then again, I grew up for the first 16 years of my life in a charismatic church where it was common to see women preaching. The senior pastor of that church was a male, but whenever he was out of town, a woman would occasionally fill in. Women would also sometimes get up to “prophesy.”
I don’t think they’d change on marriage, though. If the Catholic Church ever does change on gay marriage, it would be at least two or three generations. Our grandchildren would probably be about 70 years old when that happens.
@ Paul,
Women “preachers,” I have no problem with. She could be a nun or lay member of a third order such as Benedictine or Franciscan. I am now a member of Religious Science a.k.a. Science of Mind. Some of the best sermons I’ve ever heard were preached by women ministers. But they are ministers, not priestesses. Their ministry is not a sacramental ministry. I do have a problem with women wearing eucharistic vestiments, or bishops attire, cope, mitre, etc.
If we want to consider the Bible as an authority, during the public ministry of Jesus, there were women followers but none were designated an apostless or a discipless. After the Ascension of Jesus the eleven were in the upper room and Peter inspired to keep the apostolic college set at twelve, two male disciples were chosen to fill the vacancy by the death of Judas. Matthias was chosen, Thereafter on the Day of Pentecost, considered ordination day, the Holy Ghost lit upon them. Peter as chief had an opportunity to choose a women, if we are to believe Scripture, the Holy Ghost did not deem it so.