If extreme Mohammedans are only an itsy-bitsy, teensy-weensy fraction of Arabic Islam, why did a bigger crowd turn out to see ISIS murder a gay guy than Hillary gets at an average campaign rally?
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hmm_contribsays
Which part of “1.6 billion Muslims worldwide” confused you? Too many decimal places?
How many Muslims live in the fake Disney country Republicansself-identified liberals want to bomb?
[Edited for accuracy.]
charlessays
Actually, V the K; I think we do need to look at the crowds as folks who are just as much afraid for their own lives rather than a group of people crying for “death to the fags.”
There have been many reports from refugees (and others throughout history) that if you did NOT show up for the killing you would also be suspect.
That, of course, doesn’t mean Islam isn’t hostile – even calling for death – to gays and others; but, let’s not just assume that all folks willing attend the bloody scenes.
V the Ksays
charles – a fair answer.
Craig Smithsays
True. Remember how those who left the funeral parade of Dear Leader Kim Jon Il were never seen again.
Craig Smithsays
In addition, often, when someone stands on a building ledge and threatens to jump, a crowd gathers.
They don’t want him to jump, they just have a morbid curiosity.
formwizsays
V, I like your use of the word, Mohammedan.
Any word but the PC-approved, Muslim, is an act of defiance.
Like Moslem, it’s classical good English.
tommy651says
you reporting al these killings of gays is islamophobic.
Sean Lsays
I would go with the “unwilling audience” theory, if it weren’t for the fact that, in cases where the poor man survives the fall, the crowd finishes him off via stoning.
And yet they are considered innocents…
Throbert McGeesays
I’m reminded that a week or so ago, the cover of The Washington Blade read in gigantic type:
TO ALL [sic] MUSLIMS:
TRUMP DOES NOT
SPEAK FOR US [sic]
Note that inclusive “ALL” — which either lumps violent Muslims in with peaceful Muslims (exactly the thing that the left professes to deplore, in other words!) — or, more likely, does unpaid PR for Islamic fundies by suggesting that the ones who kill for Muhammad’s sake aren’t even Muslims to begin with, and are thus excluded from the “all.”
Note also that first-person plural pronoun, which would suggest to any casual reader that the LGBTQ community and the Blade‘s editorial staff are in some way Trump’s “natural constituency,” but they’re now threatening to withdraw their support in protest of the Muslim issue.
The effect is not unlike a confirmed vegan (or a kosher-compliant Jew) vowing to “join the boycott” of Chik-Fil-A — it means nothing if you would never have eaten there in the first place!
Or you could compare it with a noisy atheist like Dan Savage proclaiming to a mixed-faith audience: “WE reject the Bible’s bulls**t about not eating shellfish.” (It’s true that Christians in general, and also quite a few otherwise religious Jews, do not feel themselves personally bound by the ancient kosher restrictions — but that doesn’t mean they consider the rules B.S.)
Throbert McGeesays
I would advise looking up “lapidation” (i.e., stoning) and “adultery” and “hadiths” on Google. Executive summary:
The Quran itself endorses whipping, not death, for those caught in adultery. But supposedly, Mr. PBUH once witnessed a crowd of Jews whipping (and smearing with tar) a pair of their co-religionists who’d been convicted of the offense. He asked them: “What does your Torah say to do?”
The answer came: “The Torah says to whip them.”
“You lie,” said Muhammad, “your Torah says to stone them,” and ordered a Jewish scribe to read from the Torah scroll. The scribe tried to cover up the “stoning verse” with his hand when he came to it, but on Muhammad’s order his hand was lifted from the scroll, and the relevant verse MIRACULOUSLY GLOWED.
Notwithstanding the fact that the milder punishment given (whipping) was in agreement with the Quran as well as in agreement with centuries of rabbinical thought, Muhammad ordered that the Jewish adulterers be punished “as in the Torah” — i.e., by stoning.
To me, this offers an interesting example of Muhammad opportunistically abusing Jews who were supposedly caught in a hypocritical misreading of the Torah, without appearing to contradict the Quran’s endorsement of a lighter punishment.
Throbert McGeesays
P.S. In fact, the Torah does endorse some unspecified capital punishment for adultery (Lev. 20:10 — though more precisely, the offense here is “cuckoldry”, not “adultery” in the modern, unisex sense!).
And it does endorse stoning as one method of capital punishment (Num. 15:32-36, which involves a man who performed non-essential labor on the Sabbath).
But the categorizing of specific means of execution (stoning, strangling, burning, decapitation) according to the precise nature of the offense (cuckoldry, sodomy, witchcraft, murder) did not develop in Jewish law until after the Torah had become a “closed canon” — and, of course, the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD imposed an unbreakable moratorium on the Jewish death penalty.
Craig Smithsays
What is often forgotten is that the goal of a terrorist is not killing. It is fear.
So, when a city locks down because they have a reliable report of a terrorist attack, the terrorists don’t have to do a thing. They already have the city afraid of them, which is what they want.
All of the effort to appease the terrorists is so ridiculously wrongheaded for precisely this reason. You give in to them without them having to fire a shot.
THAT is what the terrorists want, and that is EXACTLY what the left is giving them.
The cult of death loathes homosexuals, women that don’t have eight babies, Christians, Jews, Hindus, anyone that isn’t their special radical sect.
Why is this cult of death always trying for world domination? that has been their bloodthirsty craving since the pedophile Mohammed started his sociopathic hatred in the unholy Koran. So many psychopaths in this pseudo religion.
Just Mesays
I do not understand the lefts uncritical support of Islam. Nope it’s the Christians they attack even though Christians haven’t thrown any gay people off roof tops or sentenced a rape victim to death, or keep women from driving cars.
As I look at that picture, I think, “That building is not tall enough”. Not because I am in favor of what they are doing, but because I want them to do it humanely. There is a high possibility of survival if the fall is too low, depending on how the victim lands. But his survival will be temporary, his last hours will be filled with pain and misery. Like hanging a man without a sufficient drop to break the neck results in an agonizing choking death.
Stevesays
Charles Mark Styen said it better
Moderate Moslems fear backlash from tommorows attack.
Meaning Moderate Moslems fear backlash from tomorrow’s terror attack that they know about.
All moslems want Sharia law, and under sharia law saying you love an adult male will get you killed but having sex with a boy too young to have body hair is acceptable especially if it is an infidel. Look up Bacha Bazi, the reason Anderson Cooper defends moslems.
Which part of “1.6 billion Muslims worldwide” confused you? Too many decimal places?
How many Muslims live in the fake Disney country
Republicansself-identified liberals want to bomb?[Edited for accuracy.]
Actually, V the K; I think we do need to look at the crowds as folks who are just as much afraid for their own lives rather than a group of people crying for “death to the fags.”
There have been many reports from refugees (and others throughout history) that if you did NOT show up for the killing you would also be suspect.
That, of course, doesn’t mean Islam isn’t hostile – even calling for death – to gays and others; but, let’s not just assume that all folks willing attend the bloody scenes.
charles – a fair answer.
True. Remember how those who left the funeral parade of Dear Leader Kim Jon Il were never seen again.
In addition, often, when someone stands on a building ledge and threatens to jump, a crowd gathers.
They don’t want him to jump, they just have a morbid curiosity.
V, I like your use of the word, Mohammedan.
Any word but the PC-approved, Muslim, is an act of defiance.
Like Moslem, it’s classical good English.
you reporting al these killings of gays is islamophobic.
I would go with the “unwilling audience” theory, if it weren’t for the fact that, in cases where the poor man survives the fall, the crowd finishes him off via stoning.
And yet they are considered innocents…
I’m reminded that a week or so ago, the cover of The Washington Blade read in gigantic type:
TO ALL [sic] MUSLIMS:
TRUMP DOES NOT
SPEAK FOR US [sic]
Note that inclusive “ALL” — which either lumps violent Muslims in with peaceful Muslims (exactly the thing that the left professes to deplore, in other words!) — or, more likely, does unpaid PR for Islamic fundies by suggesting that the ones who kill for Muhammad’s sake aren’t even Muslims to begin with, and are thus excluded from the “all.”
Note also that first-person plural pronoun, which would suggest to any casual reader that the LGBTQ community and the Blade‘s editorial staff are in some way Trump’s “natural constituency,” but they’re now threatening to withdraw their support in protest of the Muslim issue.
The effect is not unlike a confirmed vegan (or a kosher-compliant Jew) vowing to “join the boycott” of Chik-Fil-A — it means nothing if you would never have eaten there in the first place!
Or you could compare it with a noisy atheist like Dan Savage proclaiming to a mixed-faith audience: “WE reject the Bible’s bulls**t about not eating shellfish.” (It’s true that Christians in general, and also quite a few otherwise religious Jews, do not feel themselves personally bound by the ancient kosher restrictions — but that doesn’t mean they consider the rules B.S.)
I would advise looking up “lapidation” (i.e., stoning) and “adultery” and “hadiths” on Google. Executive summary:
The Quran itself endorses whipping, not death, for those caught in adultery. But supposedly, Mr. PBUH once witnessed a crowd of Jews whipping (and smearing with tar) a pair of their co-religionists who’d been convicted of the offense. He asked them: “What does your Torah say to do?”
The answer came: “The Torah says to whip them.”
“You lie,” said Muhammad, “your Torah says to stone them,” and ordered a Jewish scribe to read from the Torah scroll. The scribe tried to cover up the “stoning verse” with his hand when he came to it, but on Muhammad’s order his hand was lifted from the scroll, and the relevant verse MIRACULOUSLY GLOWED.
Notwithstanding the fact that the milder punishment given (whipping) was in agreement with the Quran as well as in agreement with centuries of rabbinical thought, Muhammad ordered that the Jewish adulterers be punished “as in the Torah” — i.e., by stoning.
To me, this offers an interesting example of Muhammad opportunistically abusing Jews who were supposedly caught in a hypocritical misreading of the Torah, without appearing to contradict the Quran’s endorsement of a lighter punishment.
P.S. In fact, the Torah does endorse some unspecified capital punishment for adultery (Lev. 20:10 — though more precisely, the offense here is “cuckoldry”, not “adultery” in the modern, unisex sense!).
And it does endorse stoning as one method of capital punishment (Num. 15:32-36, which involves a man who performed non-essential labor on the Sabbath).
But the categorizing of specific means of execution (stoning, strangling, burning, decapitation) according to the precise nature of the offense (cuckoldry, sodomy, witchcraft, murder) did not develop in Jewish law until after the Torah had become a “closed canon” — and, of course, the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD imposed an unbreakable moratorium on the Jewish death penalty.
What is often forgotten is that the goal of a terrorist is not killing. It is fear.
So, when a city locks down because they have a reliable report of a terrorist attack, the terrorists don’t have to do a thing. They already have the city afraid of them, which is what they want.
All of the effort to appease the terrorists is so ridiculously wrongheaded for precisely this reason. You give in to them without them having to fire a shot.
THAT is what the terrorists want, and that is EXACTLY what the left is giving them.
IDIOTS!!!
The cult of death loathes homosexuals, women that don’t have eight babies, Christians, Jews, Hindus, anyone that isn’t their special radical sect.
Why is this cult of death always trying for world domination? that has been their bloodthirsty craving since the pedophile Mohammed started his sociopathic hatred in the unholy Koran. So many psychopaths in this pseudo religion.
I do not understand the lefts uncritical support of Islam. Nope it’s the Christians they attack even though Christians haven’t thrown any gay people off roof tops or sentenced a rape victim to death, or keep women from driving cars.
As I look at that picture, I think, “That building is not tall enough”. Not because I am in favor of what they are doing, but because I want them to do it humanely. There is a high possibility of survival if the fall is too low, depending on how the victim lands. But his survival will be temporary, his last hours will be filled with pain and misery. Like hanging a man without a sufficient drop to break the neck results in an agonizing choking death.
Charles Mark Styen said it better
Moderate Moslems fear backlash from tommorows attack.
Meaning Moderate Moslems fear backlash from tomorrow’s terror attack that they know about.
All moslems want Sharia law, and under sharia law saying you love an adult male will get you killed but having sex with a boy too young to have body hair is acceptable especially if it is an infidel. Look up Bacha Bazi, the reason Anderson Cooper defends moslems.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html?_r=0
Opps I guess Rusty and James Edwards are converting now.
14.I do not understand the lefts uncritical support of Islam.
They hope to be eaten last by the crocodile.
Anonymous Conservative blog covers how/why they think that way if you want to be ale to predict them.
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/
VtheK, I’m impressed with your empathy for the murdered man. It would be wonderful for you to fuel your energies more in this direction.
Conservative gays (or bi’s in your case) standing for persecuted middle eastern gays. Get there before the liberal mainstream does. What a concept.