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Obama’s Sanctimony Making Life Harder for Gays in other Countries

Posted by V the K at 9:27 am - December 21, 2015.
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The Obama Administration has an uncanny knack for making everything they touch worse. For the domestic political advantage of gaining money from LGBT’s in the United States, the Obama Administration has made gay rights the primary focus of its foreign policy. The result of their meddling and public hectoring has been a push-back in the form of new anti-gay laws around the world.

Anti-gay sentiments are widespread across Africa. Same-sex relations remain illegal in most nations, the legacy of colonial laws that had been largely forgotten until the West’s push to repeal them in recent years.

Fierce opposition has come from African governments and private organizations, which accuse the United States of cultural imperialism. Pressing gay rights on an unwilling continent, they say, is the latest attempt by Western nations to impose their values on Africa.

“In the same way that we don’t try to impose our culture on anyone, we also expect that people should respect our culture in return,” said Theresa Okafor, a Nigerian active in lobbying against gay rights.

Americans really don’t care for having a Government forcing its moral viewpoint down their throats. Other countries don’t much care for it either. But at least American liberals get to sanctimoniously praise themselves for all the awareness they’re raising.

Also, Islamic countries like Iran are spared Obama’s lectures on gay rights because… well, you figure that one out.

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  1. I saw this over at LI myself… I always look with amusement at the situations like this, primarily as you have the left shrieking about others ‘imposing their values’ and ‘cultural imperialism’ doing that very thing.

    Then they’re shocked at the backlash…

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 21, 2015 @ 9:39 am - December 21, 2015

  2. We shouldn’t be surprised that there is a backlash both here and abroad. Those who made themselves our spokespeople didn’t know when to stop pushing, and now others are pushing back against the stark cultural fascism. If we are caught in the backlash, better hope you have a gun and enough bullets to send a message to the people coming for you- because really, is immigration an option at this point?

    Comment by Sean L — December 21, 2015 @ 10:11 am - December 21, 2015

  3. ne of the first to investigate links between American conservatives and the African anti-gay movement was Kipya Kaoma, a Zambian clergyman living in Boston. Homosexuality was illegal in Uganda under existing colonial laws, he explained, “But nobody was ever arrested or prosecuted based on those old laws. People turned a blind eye to it. Homosexuality was not a political issue.”

    That changed in 2009, Rev Kaoma said, when a group of American evangelicals led by Pastor Scott Lively, a self-proclaimed expert on the “gay movement”, held a series of talks in Uganda. Mr Lively warned audiences that the “evil institution” of homosexuality sought to “prey upon” and recruit Ugandan children in a bid to “defeat the marriage-based society”.

    Comment by rusty — December 21, 2015 @ 10:47 am - December 21, 2015

  4. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/how-uganda-was-seduced-by-anti-gay-conservative-evangelicals-9193593.html

    Comment by rusty — December 21, 2015 @ 10:50 am - December 21, 2015

  5. And.. rusty.. like lil letter mike doesn’t understand the difference between a private citizen (Pastor Scott Lively) and a government official (Obama). Another indication that liberals have a distorted view of reality.

    Comment by TnnsNe1 — December 21, 2015 @ 10:54 am - December 21, 2015

  6. But But But the pendulum isn’t supposed to swing back. I am supposed to be a commissar not the body in the ditch.

    Mikey’s pet moslems are acting up again
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/12/sweden-muslim-migrants-slaughter-gay-man-wrap-snake-around-his-neck

    Comment by Steve — December 21, 2015 @ 10:59 am - December 21, 2015

  7. Seeing as how liberals constantly blame the West for every terrorist attack (well we tried to colonize them, it’s only natural that they would be angry and lash out, maybe if we just stop trying to steal their oil they will stop!), why can’t they dredge up some sympathy for evangelicals and social conservatives (well we dress like comic book villains and hurl obscenities at them, of course they think we’re weird and freakish, maybe if we just stuck to dressing like everybody else and not talk about BDSM orgies in public, they would like us more!)

    Comment by Sean L — December 21, 2015 @ 11:02 am - December 21, 2015

  8. Sean- Only eastern European nations are fighting back. Czechoslovakia is the only one that I know of that has the Ultras advocate protecting gays. See the Czech controlled zone poster here
    http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/08/13/gotta-love-the-czechs-for-their-in-your-face-way-of-expressing-their-disdain-for-islam/

    Maybe get Rosetta stone for that instead of Mexican. Indonesia has also kicked out moslems, & Japan is an option.

    More revisionist history than an episode of President Hillary campaign ad- Madame Secretary rusty is saying Africa was safe for gays before 2009

    Comment by Steve — December 21, 2015 @ 11:08 am - December 21, 2015

  9. @VtK, you should go back and edit this blog.

    “But at least American liberals get to sanctimoniously praise themselves for akk [sic] the awareness their [sic] raising.”

    Should be “all” and “they’re”

    Comment by Craig Smith — December 21, 2015 @ 11:22 am - December 21, 2015

  10. And.. rusty.. like lil letter mike doesn’t understand the difference between a private citizen

    Either that, or they know and don’t care because muddying the waters by throwing something unrelated into an argument is a classic leftist tactic.

    Based on his history of vapid comments, little letter mike may not have the intellectual candlepower to understand the difference. Rusty just copy/pastes random sh-t. So, it’s hard to know if there is any flicker behind the brow.

    Comment by V the K — December 21, 2015 @ 11:23 am - December 21, 2015

  11. First, as extensively documented in the film God Loves Uganda and a series of reports by Rev. Kapya Kaoma, a Zambian Episcopal priest “African” ideas about homosexuality are often those spread by American Evangelicals, out to colonize Africa spiritually rather than politically. Lou Engle, Scott Lively, Human Life International—these are not household names in the United States, and that’s precisely the point. Like has-been basketball players dunking baskets in Europe, the leftovers of the American Evangelical scene have found new life in Africa.

    Comment by rusty — December 21, 2015 @ 11:31 am - December 21, 2015

  12. It always amazes me how liberals like rusty and lil letter mike can be so ignorant and yet profess to be so knowledgeable. Their comments reinforce my theory that the public education system in the US is going to be the downfall of civilization as we know it. The ignorance is astounding.

    Comment by TnnsNe1 — December 21, 2015 @ 11:41 am - December 21, 2015

  13. >>And.. rusty.. like lil letter mike doesn’t understand the difference between a private citizen (Pastor Scott Lively) and a government official (Obama). Another indication that liberals have a distorted view of reality.<<
    Which is a violation of the Logan Act if I'm correct.

    Comment by Paul — December 21, 2015 @ 2:34 pm - December 21, 2015

  14. In order to understand the anti-gay and anti-feminist legislation that is developing across the continent (Burundi, Cameroon, Tanzania are on the paths taken by Uganda and Nigeria), we must also understand the ways in which the American Christian Right, and its neo-liberal supporters, are shaping and nurturing the anti-gay laws that countries like Uganda and Nigeria are making. American evangelist Scott Lively (Author of The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party, which blames the holocaust on gays) has been sued by Sexual Minorities Uganda for crimes against humanity for his influential involvement in the “kill the gays” bill.

    Scott Lively is not the only one – there are many well-resourced US based organisations that are building inroads into African sexual politics. Rev. Kapya Kaoma’s Colonizing African Values: How the U.S. CR is Transforming Sexual Politics in Africa is a useful introduction to how the US Christian Right is working successfully to drive the homophobic and anti-feminist “Family Values” agenda in Africa. For those who are unfamiliar with the Christian Right – this is an American movement of conservative Christians who promote Christian worldviews in politics, and the belief in the superiority of the nuclear family as the fundamental unit of society. This means that for the Christian Right, any sex that occurs outside the institution of heterosexual marriage is considered dangerous for children, families, economies, and nations. For the Christian Right, morality begins, rather than ends, with imposing one’s values and views upon others, and with great consequence.

    And, while the political alignments of the groups and individuals promoting this legislation are conservative and Christian, this is not an issue that is only about Christianity, or religion. Some commentators, in condemning the laws, blame Sharia Law and Islamic fundamentalism, especially in Nigeria. However, as Kaoma and others have made clear, Islam and Sharia law are not nearly as invested in “Family Values” as American Christians.

    While his report is useful and important, what Kaoma doesn’t mention or recognise is that Family Values organisations are themselves supported by, and linked to, conservative advocacy organisations. For instance, one of the most influential conservative think tanks in the US, The Heritage Foundation, supports the Howard Centre for Family, Religion, and Society, an organisation that develops and disseminates conservative knowledge on the “natural family”.

    Comment by rusty — December 21, 2015 @ 3:10 pm - December 21, 2015

  15. http://www.afrika.no/Detailed/24743.html

    Comment by rusty — December 21, 2015 @ 3:12 pm - December 21, 2015

  16. Whom would have thought that the US State Dept financially extorting other nations into promoting homosexual behavior, marriage and adoption would be insulting to other nations’ leadership and their populace? Go figure, I guess they realize that those in the animal kingdom do not engage in sadomasochism.

    Comment by rjligier — December 21, 2015 @ 3:25 pm - December 21, 2015

  17. What V the K fails to mention in his/her original blog post is that much of Africa is just as Islamic as Iran.

    Comment by Paul — December 21, 2015 @ 4:11 pm - December 21, 2015

  18. NY Times article is being refused a share by Facebook, which is allegedly telling me the site has been reported as hate speech and may be malicious.

    Comment by perturbed — December 21, 2015 @ 4:33 pm - December 21, 2015

  19. Case example of liberal cluelessness provided by Cut-N-Paste:

    For those who are unfamiliar with the Christian Right – this is an American movement of conservative Christians who promote Christian worldviews in politics, and the belief in the superiority of the nuclear family as the fundamental unit of society. This means that for the Christian Right, any sex that occurs outside the institution of heterosexual marriage is considered dangerous for children, families, economies, and nations.

    Which is actually quite sound science.

    In this study, a cross-sectional survey among single, white, female students in their senior year of college was conducted to measure the association between behavioral risk factors and the acquisition of self-reported STDs during college. The usable response rate was 47.2% (n = 467). The combined prevalence of chlamydial infection, gonorrhea, genital herpes, human papillomavirus (HPV) infection, syphilis, and trichomoniasis during a 3.5-year period was 11.7%. There was a strong association between number of sexual partners and having an STD: those women with 5 or more sexual partners were 8 times more likely to report having an STD than those with only 1 partner, even after adjusting for age at first intercourse (odds ratio = 8.1; 95% confidence interval = 1.99, 32.64).

    Oh, there’s more. Lots more.

    In all, 21% of women were at direct risk and 23% were at indirect risk. In comparison, among men aged 18-44, 24% were at direct risk for STDs and an unknown proportion were at indirect risk. Multivariate analyses indicated that unmarried individuals, women younger than 40 and men aged 20-29, blacks and women in the South were all at elevated risk for STDs because of multiple partnership.

    Of course for liberals in the United States, who see STDs and HIV as an easy way to have the government give them checks so they never have to work again, this isn’t a drawback.

    But in Africa, it is a death sentence — and it’s a huge drain on people who are already struggling to keep their economies afloat in the first place. This is why the most successful HIV prevention strategies in Africa have emphasized fidelity and reducing the number of partners, especially in — you guessed it — Uganda.

    There has been considerable interest in understanding what may have led to Uganda’s dramatic decline in HIV prevalence, one of the world’s earliest and most compelling AIDS prevention successes. Survey and other data suggest that a decline in multi-partner sexual behavior is the behavioral change most likely associated with HIV decline. It appears that behavior change programs, particularly involving extensive promotion of “zero grazing” (faithfulness and partner reduction), largely developed by the Ugandan government and local NGOs including faith-based, women’s, people-living-with-AIDS and other community-based groups, contributed to the early declines in casual/multiple sexual partnerships and HIV incidence and, along with other factors including condom use, to the subsequent sharp decline in HIV prevalence.

    So what we see here is liberals like rusty who, because of anti-Christian bigotry and stupidity, are trying to impose on Africa the same behaviors that caused the AIDS and STD crisis there previously.

    This again shows what useless and worthless imbeciles liberals are. How to prevent STD spread is known, but irresponsible idiots like rusty refuse to take the most basic steps to avoid its spread in the first place AND, even worse, attack the basic and fundamental units of society that are shown most effective in stopping it.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 21, 2015 @ 5:24 pm - December 21, 2015

  20. Richard Lusimbo 28 years born in Mbale district and lives in Kampala and works with Sexual Minorities Uganda as the mobiliser, “My family knows am Gay, I never had a chance to tell them but they read in the news papers and accepted my decision, i associate with them. From University i joined SMUG (Sexual Minorities Uganda), i never wanted to be discriminated from work that’s why I decided to join LGBT family, accessing health services is hard, we are scared that the doctors might report us and we are arrested but the annulment of the law gives gay rights advocates in Uganda legal leverage to fight a reported surge in discrimination including evictions, jobs lost and denial of medical treatment since it was passed. There is space for people who are victims of social pressure, victims of violence to feel that they can take their complaints somewhere and hopefully obtain some access to justice,” he revealed.

    ‘We were living like slaves, bitter slogans to us, we are beaten, denied jobs before the court ruling, though not so free, we have to go through the police if we have an activity, the main stream of where we access health services is very difficult, Ministry of Health together with MARPI helped us a lot of providing guidelines to protect our health need and access of health services in hospitals. Sexual Minorities Uganda runs adverts on Radio not for Key Population to shy away but access health services, Ministry of Health through MARPI are helping us with the issue of Discrimination in Hospitals, DANIDA has left a big gap in Uganda, in memories of Key Populations (as they call us), our colleagues in those districts have been releaved with expensences of Medicine, we are going to buy again expensive STI tabs’, he adds.

    This brutality of LGBTs has been ongoing for many years, and reached a climax in 2014, after the new Anti-Homosexuality bill was passed. Parliamentarians have been working towards returning the “Kill the Gays Bill” however this has not been possible due to Uganda’s AIDS Commission which says HIV prevalence is higher in this group of people; instead of chasing them away from treatment we should be giving it to ensure that the HIV prevalence reduces

    Comment by rusty — December 21, 2015 @ 6:28 pm - December 21, 2015

  21. http://africatimes.com/2015/11/24/why-are-ugandan-anti-gay-laws-contributing-to-hiv-prevalence/

    Comment by rusty — December 21, 2015 @ 6:29 pm - December 21, 2015

  22. Wow, rusty is busy today, trying to avoid the simple truths of the article.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 21, 2015 @ 7:20 pm - December 21, 2015

  23. Al Jazeera: Which church has been most vocal in their opposition to homosexuality in Uganda?

    Frank Mugisha: Evangelicals are more extreme. Homophobia is imported from the West. All extreme evangelical criticism has come from the West, which created it. They have come with misinformation about homosexuality, especially the evangelicals from the US.

    Al Jazeera: The anti-homosexuality bill was annulled last year, but being gay is still illegal in Uganda. Is it dangerous to be a gay Ugandan?

    Frank Mugisha: Yes, there is still a colonial [era] law in Uganda on homosexuality, so it makes every known or perceived LGBTI person at risk of hate crimes, arrest, blackmail and extortion, public humiliation. The media can out them. The risk at the moment is mostly from the public.

    Comment by rusty — December 21, 2015 @ 7:23 pm - December 21, 2015

  24. http://allafrica.com/stories/201511270684.html

    Comment by rusty — December 21, 2015 @ 7:24 pm - December 21, 2015

  25. It is worthwhile to note that little letter rusty always blames American evangelicals, but there is rarely a peep from him about the Mohammedan psychopaths. But liberals like him think of the death cult as being oppressed when they kill people like I drink water.

    Comment by davinci38 — December 21, 2015 @ 7:31 pm - December 21, 2015

  26. Wow, rusty is busy today, trying to avoid the simple truths of the article.

    Poor old man must have been saving all those Evangelical-bashing links for just such an occasion.

    Comment by V the K — December 21, 2015 @ 8:44 pm - December 21, 2015

  27. Anybody who trusts Al Jazeera ought to be treated with the same contempt as somebody who trusted Pravda.

    Comment by Sean L — December 21, 2015 @ 10:31 pm - December 21, 2015

  28. They should have given me some of the $700 million.

    http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=34920
    French Doctor calls on gays and minorities to rape French Women who vote for LePenn
    Rape “right-wing” females to create “multicolored descendants”, says French Doctor
    2015-12-14 21:13
    “Blacks, Negroes, gooks, Jews, leftists, gypsies, disabled, Freemasons and even my gay friends, in solidarity: bring up your hard dicks! Let our consciences sleep under the pillow, and jump on the right-wing pussies offered (unfortunately sometimes pretty!) Hail to a vast altruistic copulation. Provide multicolored descendants to the sinking country of France.”

    “With one goal: kill right-wing poison in the egg.”

    Comment by Steve — December 21, 2015 @ 10:40 pm - December 21, 2015

  29. Rusty can lead a horse to water but he can’t make them drink.

    I see that no one here has bothered to watch Call Me Kuchu, which I’ve advocated for several times on this blog over the last three years.

    I also see that y’all are clueless when it comes to gay African history. Figures.

    Comment by CrayForGayPatriot (aka CrayCrayPatriot) — December 22, 2015 @ 3:39 am - December 22, 2015

  30. @ 27 what is Pravda?

    Comment by James — December 22, 2015 @ 6:31 am - December 22, 2015

  31. Sorry, I’m getting dizzy from watching all Rusty’s spinning. Between that and the rainbow flag he wraps himself in, someone put him in front of an aluminium Christmas tree!

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 22, 2015 @ 7:48 am - December 22, 2015

  32. One bright spot in my day. Someone had to ask what is Pravda. Thank you Thatcher/Reagan/John Paul II

    Comment by john f in indy — December 22, 2015 @ 8:35 am - December 22, 2015

  33. In a report published on attitudes towards gay people worldwide, the US-based Pew Research Center said hostility was strongest in “poorer countries with high levels of religiosity”, while there was “greater acceptance in more secular and affluent countries”.
    “Publics in Africa and in predominantly Muslim countries remain among the least accepting of homosexuality,” it said, pointing out that its survey showed that 98% of Nigerians, 96% of Senegalese, Ghanaians and Ugandans and 90% of Kenyans were opposed to homosexuality.
    “Even in South Africa where, unlike in many other African countries, homosexual acts are legal and discrimination based on sexual orientation is unconstitutional, 61% say homosexuality should not be accepted by society, while just 32% say it should be accepted,” the report said.
    This is despite the fact that South Africa’s leading Christian clerics – including Archbishop Desmond Tutu – are vocal supporters of gay rights.

    “Anywhere where the humanity of people is undermined, anywhere where people are left in the dust, there we will find our cause,” Tutu said.

    Comment by rusty — December 22, 2015 @ 8:47 am - December 22, 2015

  34. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-25858397

    Comment by rusty — December 22, 2015 @ 8:49 am - December 22, 2015

  35. South Africa-based gay rights activist Melanie Nathan argues that the US Christian evangelical movement is also shaping public debate, playing a key role in Uganda’s parliament passing a new anti-gay bill in December, which makes it a crime not to report homosexuals to police and to talk about homosexuality without denouncing it.
    “When religious extremists… found that their war against homosexuality was floundering on home turf, they scrambled to capture a world ripe for scapegoating, using the Bible to spin their hateful yarn on African soil. Uganda became a target and they were successful,” she blogged.
    “Their target included, not only the general Ugandan populace, but also the Ugandan politicians and Members of Parliament, who subscribed to their interpretations, that Gays are not fit to live ‘because the Bible says so!’ This trend has spread across the continent. And anti-gay laws have been passed, compliments U.S. Evangelicals.”

    Comment by rusty — December 22, 2015 @ 8:52 am - December 22, 2015

  36. The problem rusty, is that all your examples are from the same few anti-Christian activists. The opinions of your tribal leaders may matter to you but they mean nothing outside your tribe.

    Comment by juan — December 22, 2015 @ 9:25 am - December 22, 2015

  37. In a statement Tutu said: “When President Museveni and I spoke last month, he gave his word that he would not let the anti-homosexuality bill become law in Uganda. I was therefore very disheartened to hear last week that President Museveni was reconsidering his position.”

    Tutu equated discrimination against gay people with the horrors of Nazi Germany and apartheid-era South Africa.

    “We must be entirely clear about this: the history of people is littered with attempts to legislate against love or marriage across class, caste, and race. But there is no scientific basis or genetic rationale for love. There is only the grace of God. There is no scientific justification for prejudice and discrimination, ever. And nor is there any moral justification. Nazi Germany and apartheid South Africa, among others, attest to these facts.”

    Comment by rusty — December 22, 2015 @ 9:35 am - December 22, 2015

  38. Hey CCP, rusty, little letter mike: I don’t care.

    Comment by Sean L — December 22, 2015 @ 10:08 am - December 22, 2015

  39. What the f*** kind of name is Cray Cray anyway? Makes himself or herself sound like a crayon.

    Comment by Joe — December 22, 2015 @ 11:45 am - December 22, 2015

  40. Tutu equated discrimination against gay people with the horrors of Nazi Germany and apartheid-era South Africa.

    Warning, this won’t be popular.

    “Equate” just begs for numbers and equivalence. Who would choose to call Dachau merely a site of “discrimination?” Who would consider apartheid to be a garden variety of discrimination? What was the population breakdown of Jews to gays in Nazi Germany? Were there massive gay ghettos? Gays were targeted in Nazi Germany, but how did their “holocaust” numbers compare to the “holocaust” numbers of Jews? Apartheid enforced over blacks by a minority white population in South Africa equates to gays exactly how?

    I make no case for negative discrimination, but this psychobabble by Tutu is beyond baroque. Murdering logic and semantics is bad enough. To quote murdered logic and semantics is lunacy.

    Comment by Heliotrope — December 22, 2015 @ 11:59 am - December 22, 2015

  41. Notice how rusty, when confronted with actual peer-reviewed science that shows his perverse anti-family and promiscuity-pushing agenda is not only dangerous, but costs untold billions of dollars in lost productivity, time, and suffering due to STD transmission and spread and would be economically devastating to poverty-stricken African countries, just flaps his arms and foams at the mouth more about “Christians”.

    I think what has been made obvious is that rusty is both a pervert and an anti-Christian bigot who would willingly encourage the spread of HIV and undo all the work that has been done in countries like Uganda in the name of pushing promiscuity and irresponsibility.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 22, 2015 @ 12:28 pm - December 22, 2015

  42. @ Joe: “cray cray” is how Millennials with low intelligence say “crazy.”

    @ Heliotrope: Considering the fact that Protestantism got going because German princes wanted clerics who would be okay with opposition to the Holy Roman Emperor and the Pope, Tutu is just following form- in this case, the ideological cancer that is Liberalism.

    @ ND30: rusty’s just upset science tells him he shouldn’t do anal.

    Comment by Sean L — December 22, 2015 @ 12:55 pm - December 22, 2015

  43. “Cray cray” is actually a “ghetto” word. It just happened to be picked up and adapted by Millennials.

    Comment by Paul — December 22, 2015 @ 2:21 pm - December 22, 2015

  44. @ Paul: You mean to say that Cray Cray Patriot is engaging in cultural appropriation? 😉

    Comment by Sean L — December 22, 2015 @ 4:47 pm - December 22, 2015

  45. Queers demand Christian colleges denounce their sin of being x-tian http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428771/christian-colleges-religious-freedom

    Apartheid enforced over blacks by a minority white population in South Africa equates to gays exactly how?

    The thing to understand about apartheid was the Zulus genocided the Hottentots to get near white civilization and illegal immigration was a problem for South Africa. Rhodesia and SA where the best for human development until they went black. More blacks legally owned cars in SA than in the USA when SA fell.

    Comment by Steve — December 22, 2015 @ 4:57 pm - December 22, 2015

  46. Wait… Desmond Tutu… Isn’t he the guy who called Israel an apartheid state?

    Yeah, he’s an unbiased source.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 22, 2015 @ 5:35 pm - December 22, 2015

  47. Desmond Tutu is (or was?) an Anglican archbishop in the Anglican church of his particular country. A good chunk of the Anglican Communion’s members are located in Africa, South Asia, and Latin America. As the West (Canada, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and the USA) continues to secularize and become irreligious by the day, Christianity continues to increase in the Global South. By mid-century, everyone will be talking about “Christian Africa” and “Heathen America,” when just a century ago, the roles were reversed.

    I’d take Tutu’s view on this at least a bit seriously.

    Comment by Paul — December 22, 2015 @ 5:58 pm - December 22, 2015

  48. ^*less than a century

    Comment by Paul — December 22, 2015 @ 5:59 pm - December 22, 2015

  49. @ Paul, Bishop Tutu is entitled to his opinion, but the fact remains that many Christian groups have decided to abandon the traditional Christian heartland of the West to court the Global South, and that many Christian traditions have a history of aping the current political orthodoxy, which just so happens to be the anti-occidentalism of Liberalism. If Christianity decides to let the accumulated wisdom and beauty of over two millennia whither away, then perhaps Westerners who care about Western history and culture need to abandon Christianity for something more pro-Western, or adopt a form of Christianity that adapts its doctrines for the needs of the West.

    Comment by Sean L — December 22, 2015 @ 7:43 pm - December 22, 2015

  50. I’m very tired (had an Oncologist appt. today) so apologies for not laying out a proper comment–the most I can do tonight is post relevant clips from my past comments on a subject I’ve done intense research on. I just think it’s important to bring awareness to another aspect of this the NYT doesn’t mention.

    “LGBTQ rights” is a often used as a nice cover for reproductive of control of women, especially in Africa. (And the amounts from NGO’s far exceed the 700million in USAID funding.)

    Many that use the banner of LGBTQ rights, incorporate “reproductive rights” and “maternal health” (code for abortion, birth-spacing, long-acting birth control (you’ve no idea how many African girls and women we are poisoning with depo provera, implants, and the like)) and “youth rights” in their agendas.

    And Depo provera can increase HIV risk by 40%:

    “… January 8, 2015, The Lancet, … published yet another report stating that Depo Provera increases HIV risk by 40 percent (Melinda Gates’ contraceptive of choice for Black women). The Rebecca Project for Justice has been sounding alarm bells since 2012 that Depo Provera not only increases HIV risk, but also doubles the risk of breast cancer and causes irreversible osteoporosis.”
    (Sources http://www.1037thebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/DEPO-PROVERA-DEADLY-REPRODUCTIVE-VIOLENCE-Rebecca-Project-for-Human-Rights-June-2013-2.pdf, excerpt below @* & http://www.cameroonweb.com/CameroonHomePage/NewsArchive/US-family-planning-policy-discriminates-against-Africans-317736)

    *”This report discusses the harm of Depo Provera… a dangerous injectable progesterone-contraceptive manufactured by Pfizer. …Pfizer could potentially earn approximately $36 billion in sales resulting from an unprecedented Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF) investment3 –$560 million initially from BMGF, totaling $4.3 billion with government contributions4– using Depo Provera as the optimum contraceptive for women of color and low-income women. This report tells the story of an egregious and smoldering human tragedy driven by profit at any cost, and a “population control” ideological agenda fueled by the untrammeled power of Pfizer, BMGF, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), the Population Council, the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, Planned Parenthood, a cadre of extreme reproductive health advocates, OB/GYNs, and NGOs, that are either USAID contractors or beneficiaries of the Depo Provera policy/profit system in the form of reproductive health grants, consulting fees, and Medicaid insurance reimbursements.

    I’ll try and get back here in a few days and post the group’s that use LGBTQ rights as cover–I think it’s important for everyone to understand how we are all being played. (And I should mention the religious right v gay rights tug of war in the Pravda article is just more cover and diversion, as well as a subtle call for year end donations to the private groups they mention.)

    Comment by Rosey — December 22, 2015 @ 10:06 pm - December 22, 2015

  51. Nope, after crap like this I cant take him seriously.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 23, 2015 @ 7:31 am - December 23, 2015

  52. No one goes to an oncologist for fun. I hope you get the answers and results you’re looking for, Rosey. (#51)

    Comment by TheQuietMan — December 23, 2015 @ 10:04 am - December 23, 2015

  53. My condolences, Rosey. I hope everything goes well.

    Comment by Sean L — December 23, 2015 @ 11:32 am - December 23, 2015

  54. MAy all be well Rosey.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 24, 2015 @ 9:04 am - December 24, 2015

  55. I’m hetero but I’ve been wondering for awhile: isn’t it kind of offensive to homosexuals AND transgendered people to lump them all together along with “bisexuals” in a political identity group? I only know two trans people but they are not even the slightest bit homosexual (unless you count a man who dresses as a woman being attracted to females as homosexual). Everything I’m told says that gender and sexuality are not connected.

    Have a great Xmas G.P., love your blog!

    Comment by Mark — December 25, 2015 @ 7:47 pm - December 25, 2015

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