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AIDS, Terrorism, History, and Political Correctness

Posted by V the K at 8:18 am - December 23, 2015.
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Donald Trump’s suggestion that Muslim immigration be temporarily suspended while we improve our immigration controls and terror screenings has been — like most other common sense suggestions these days — met with howls of outrage. Both sides of the Washington Uniparty have denounced the idea of controlling who can enter our country as an unconscionable assault on the rights of Muslims by hate-filled bigots. It has reached the point where a highly compensated Republican consultant has suggested that Trump should be shot in the head for suggesting such an outrageous thing.

A reasonable suggestion about better protecting our country from terror threats is treated like the ravings of mad man. A temper tantrum by spoiled brats that serving Sushi and General Tso’s chicken in a college cafeteria is an offensive “cultural appropriation” is treated like a reasonable and legitimate thing.

There is historical precedent for this.

Some thirty-odd years ago, not much was known about HIV and AIDS, except that it was deadly and it was spread through sexual contact. Some suggested that a reasonable, common sense precaution that might save lives would be to close the bath houses where gay men hooked up with strangers for unsafe anonymous sex. This was also decried by the politically correct left as an unconscionable assault on gay men by hate-filled bigots.

Ideology in 1983 demanded that AIDS had absolutely nothing to do with gay sex. Ideology in 2015 demands that Terrorism has absolutely nothing to do with Mohammedism.

Those who don’t study history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do study history are doomed to watch in horror while those who didn’t repeat it.

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  1. Those who do study are doomed to watch in horror while those who didn’t study it repeat it.

    Hands down one of the most brilliant statements I’ve ever encountered. Thank you and Merry Christmas!

    Comment by Sathar — December 23, 2015 @ 8:35 am - December 23, 2015

  2. If we learn anything from the study of history, it is that we learn nothing from the study of history.

    Comment by Professor Hale — December 23, 2015 @ 9:30 am - December 23, 2015

  3. The other day, Don Surber wrote this on his blog:

    Maybe the Home Audience Conservative has had enough with conservative politicians who promise everything and deliver nothing.

    Donald Trump is not a conservative? The Trump supporters say, so what? At least he will put up a wall, and keep the Islamic State from opening up a recruiting office at Lakeside and East Ninth in Cleveland.

    For many people, that’s enough. The refusal to be polite is a bonus, and the insults are entertaining. Not presidential? Many people see that as a plus.

    This is a darned good understanding of the Trump phenomenon. And I like the “Home Audience Conservative” designation.

    We Home Audience Conservatives listen to Rush, Mark, Lars, etc. and watch FoxNews. Sometimes we throw up a little in our mouths at where the “debate” goes inane on FoxNewa, but that is the very best we have in the MSM television world.

    We Home Audience Conservatives also have a home on the internet and we don’t have to scratch for news of events. We can find it out from consolidators and innumerable bright bloggers. We can post our “letter to the editor” instantly on a blog site and get a conversation going. The iron curtain of elite debate control has been shredded.

    The Republican “Establishment” is so consumed with the “low-information voter” that it has deigned to treat us all as turnips freshly fallen from the truck.

    Karl Rove fascinates me. He is so deep into the skin of political numbers, voter turn out, framing the message and other minutiae of reading the election tea leaves that he has lost his very sense of wonder and awe. His is not to reason why, his is but to analyze it to death. But Rove, Krauthammer, Will, and so many other talking heads derive their analysis from the inside politics world in which they dwell. Therefore, they are incapable of accepting the Trump phenomenon as anything other than a nasty strain of flu.

    I am not sure how I feel towards a Trump presidency other than to say that the idea does not particularly bother me. Nor can I offer any “scientific” evidence of how a Trump candidacy would be a disaster and a sure winner for Hillary. I am still avidly searching for the “facts” that Trump’s political strength is at is zenith.

    Remember 2008? All manner of people came out to vote for Obama who rarely, if ever, voted before. Trump may well have the same drawing power.

    I am not tuned into what drives millennials. I don’t think anyone actually is, either. But unless one is hide-bound to go full socialist, the choice between Hillary and Trump is a stark one. Do you realize that Donald Trump is nearly one year older than Hillary? Which one has the stamina, the spark, the “youthful” demeanor, the presence, the positive attitude, the record of success, the energy?

    Some turnips will line up to vote for Hillary. Can she actually drag enough of them to the polls to overcome a spontaneous groundswell of enthusiasm to rip the political establishment a new one?

    Comment by Heliotrope — December 23, 2015 @ 9:58 am - December 23, 2015

  4. There is precedent for Trump’s target of a specific group for security. FDR refused to permit a boatload of Jews seeking asylum from Hitler’s persecution to enter the U.S. Also, by executive order had Japanese Americans routed from their homes and placed in internment camps, while their military aged sons were serving in the Army. Moreover ten of the fourteen Latin American countries deported their Jews to the United States for internment. All of this was done for the sake of security, in a world that was, travel wise, much larger.

    Comment by Roberto — December 23, 2015 @ 10:07 am - December 23, 2015

  5. Some turnips will line up to vote for Hillary. Can she actually drag enough of them to the polls to overcome a spontaneous groundswell of enthusiasm to rip the political establishment a new one?

    Clinton or Trump? At-least that’s a choice.
    Clinton or Cruz is just turnips of the Left versus turnips of the Right. **shudder** **yawn**

    A Trump Cabinet would be enlightening. The first truly-functioning Cabinet since Ronald Reagan, not a table of place-holding sinecures with shadow political officers hovering to enforce West Wing orthodoxy via micro-management from the WH Chief of Staff’s Office.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — December 23, 2015 @ 10:36 am - December 23, 2015

  6. At this point, I just want to see Washington get rocked to it’s core, and know-it-alls on both side of the aisle forced to eat their hats. Only Sanders or Trump would really do that, and since I’m allergic to all things Leftist, Trump it is.

    Guess that makes me a lunatic agent of chaos in Jeb!’s book.

    Comment by Sean L — December 23, 2015 @ 11:28 am - December 23, 2015

  7. If you are going to talk about jews and immigration, don’t forget that only jews from the USSR could come to the US. Not sure why because jewish oligarchs snatched up all the high value industries in Russia the jewish bloshieviks would still have had control, just not an army protecting them from the peons.

    Also don’t forget after Sandy guys couldn’t stay out of the bathouses long enough for them to get a good cleaning, leading to the NYC gay meningitis outbreak. Actually how often do they clean the bathhouses or gyms as they are called now?

    Comment by Steve — December 23, 2015 @ 1:18 pm - December 23, 2015

  8. There are two problems. There’s always going to be a segment of the population, or popular dissent, against commonsense measures meant to confront any crisis or incident. We live in an age of the old 90’s cliché of the Information Superhighway. Even as the Borg were one mind, funneling their thoughts, questions & expressions through a central queen; we all publish & comment in a “connected” (another buzz word) sphere. Letting our collective outrage, combined threats or supportive views be known to one & all; when, the norm 20 years previously was that our leaders worked off of their promises & their own discretion when making decisions.

    The consequence of the one mind is that everyone is afraid, of everything. Making a decision is difficult for some of the weaklings we’ve elected & the electorate is now imitating the formerly monopolistic traditional media.

    Trump is showing difficulty in explaining, cohesively, his commonsense ideas. Also, he’s not expressing what kind of country & world he wants to lead.

    Though I will support a Trump run if he’s the nominee, I’m hoping that we can see that Cruz is our best bet.

    Trump would be able to delegate to worthy subordinates. Cruz would be a rational head of the Administrative Branch. Trump will sling dirt effectively at the filthy hag, though; in a way that Cruz doesn’t seem capable.

    However; it’s good to point out the actions of Leftists who scream about perceived past bigotry in dealing with HIV & the current Muslim Problem

    Comment by Hanover — December 23, 2015 @ 1:35 pm - December 23, 2015

  9. Millennial logic:

    Don’t control who enters this country

    Do control movements of citizens within this country

    I suggest a cage fight: Border Patrol vs TSA. Winner takes all.

    Comment by Reziac — December 23, 2015 @ 1:47 pm - December 23, 2015

  10. “Aid, terrorism…” Don’t you mean “AIDS, terrorism…”?

    Comment by perturbed — December 23, 2015 @ 4:28 pm - December 23, 2015

  11. Actually how often do they clean the bathhouses or gyms as they are called now?

    Really depends on the particular establishment. Friend of mine used to work at Sam’s Club in a large city with three male-only bathhouses. One of the three was a regular customer of that particular retail outlet and he noted that every single time they came through his line, there was a ton of chlorine bleach on the flatbed card. He was certain they weren’t drinking it, and noted that if he was into the bathhouse scene, that would be the one he would go to.

    Comment by RSG — December 23, 2015 @ 9:36 pm - December 23, 2015

  12. FDR refused to permit a boatload of Jews seeking asylum from Hitler’s persecution to enter the U.S. Also, by executive order had Japanese Americans routed from their homes and placed in internment camps, while their military aged sons were serving in the Army. […] All of this was done for the sake of security, in a world that was, travel wise, much larger.

    Not completely accurate. FDR, in reality, turned away the MS St. Louis because he was concerned that public perception of the acceptance of such large a landing of refugees would not be positive. Not only was this at a time when signs such as “No Jews – No Dogs – No Negroes” (or various iterations) were quite common in parts of the US, but also on behalf of an executive who was so conscious of public perception that he completely hid the fact he himself could not walk and could not stand unassisted. Add to that a very strong streak of isolationism both in Congress and the general public about having any entanglement in foreign wars–which was not fully overcome until the bombing of Pearl Harbor–and what was later referred to as The Voyage Of The Damned was truly thus.

    Additionally, while there were, by most unbiased accounts, Japanese spies in the US, the wholesale internment of those affected individuals and their families based on their ethnic origin–most of whom were US citizens–should not be viewed as a heroic measure, particularly when other citizens of German and Italian ancestry were left unscathed, even though the US was also at war with their motherland countries.

    That these examples are used as justification for the current immigration debate is a false comparison, given the nature of immigrants from predominantly Islamic countries and their lack of cultural assimilation into both the US and other countries which have already accepted their forebears.

    Comment by RSG — December 23, 2015 @ 10:22 pm - December 23, 2015

  13. @12

    To add to the topic that you have mentioned:

    Along with Japanese-Americans being put in the US govt.’s internment camps, in the ww2 era, aka 1942 to 1946, wikipedia .org has articles on: “The Internment of German Americans”…which happened in the US in WWI and WW2, and “The Internment of Italian Americans”…which happened in the US, in WW2.

    To find out more about the internment that happened [to German Americans, and Italian Americans], please look at the wikipedia articles titled: “The Internment of German Americans”,

    and

    “The Internment of Italian Americans”.

    Comment by TR — December 24, 2015 @ 1:06 am - December 24, 2015

  14. Hanover @ #8 writes of the “cliché of the Information Superhighway.” I had forgotten that whole utopian dreamscape where thirsting minds would gather to self-educate and everyone would be intellectually elite and united as a result.

    Funny how much the Information Superhighway was imagined to be so pure and free of human nature.

    A Superhighway, after all, has to be limited by boundaries, direction, controlled access, etc. One can not stop in the middle of a superhighway and have a family reunion picnic on the center line. Or would there even be a centerline?

    I am forever seeing corruptors of power trying to claw their way into controlling the internet in some fashion or other. Porn, hook-ups, terrorism, scams, and other vice driven sides of human nature have soiled the virtuous ideals of the Superhighway. Who would ever have guessed?

    Clearly, with the Information Superhighway we had finally reached the intellectual zenith of human history and utopia was just within our grasp.

    If I understand him correctly, I am not certain that Hanover has it right about the effect of so much openness on decision making. Cabals, controlling interests, power plays and the like put Jesus on the cross, stabbed Caesar, installed Hitler and created the man-made global warming consensus science. Even with the “Information Superhighway” as we know it, we still have the power elite trying to get control of our lives in a myriad of ways. Maybe more so.

    As an example of the power of the internet, I will choose the Bilderberg Group as a subject. I really don’t know what the whole Bilderberg Group is all about. Recently, I looked to see if Trump was a part of it. I know that Steve will be able to tie the “Joo’s” into it somehow. I know that is a boiling cauldron for conspiracy watchdogs to monitor. I know that I don’t know anything for sure about the whole association/cabal. Is it sinister, enlightened, positive, or what?

    It is a heck of a lot easier to piece together what I don’t know about it because of the internet than it ever was before when I had to depend on what I could locate on microfilm in a large library or have to acquire through interlibrary loan.

    The Information Superhighway has actually turned out to be a way to access every tiny lane and cow path on Earth. You just get there at light speed and then you explore away at your own human pace.

    Comment by Heliotrope — December 24, 2015 @ 9:18 am - December 24, 2015

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