Per Kevin Williamson, Obama isn’t interested in reducing gun violence. A fight with the NRA is more politically useful to him.
In 90 percent of (gun-related homicides in New York city), the identified killers had prior criminal histories, often for violent crime — and about 70 percent of the victims had prior criminal arrests. The problem is an entrenched culture of criminality and disorder, not regulations on Bob’s Bait Shop and Firearms Emporium in Muleshoe, Texas.
Those killers aren’t walking the streets of New York City because of the NRA. They’re on the street because law-enforcement and criminal-justice agencies, especially in big, Democrat-run cities, fail to do their jobs. And President Obama refuses to hold them to account. If you want some common-sense gun control that can in fact be enacted by presidential order, start by reversing the fact that federal prosecutors more or less categorically refuse to take up straw-buyer cases. The U.S. attorney responsible for Chicago announced in 2012 that his office would no longer prosecute straw-purchase cases unless there was some bigger, sexier aspect to them, such as interstate gun-trafficking.
… The desire to focus regulatory efforts on licensed gun dealers instead of on straw buyers and other actual criminals is in part about laziness (gun dealers have fixed addresses and regular business hours) but also about the desire to shift prosecutorial energy away from the sort of communities in which “community organizers” make their living.
The president has it within his power to order U.S. attorneys, in Chicago and elsewhere, to take up those straw-buyer cases, but he refuses to exercise it. Why? Because he believes that there is political juice to be had from a long, drawn-out confrontation with the NRA and other gun-rights activists, but none to be had from taking meaningful steps to punish the actual wrongdoers. That is cowardice, and it is immoral.
Exactly thus. Obama is attacking law-abiding gun owners because we are not part of his political base. He will not prosecute gun crimes in Democrat-Run Big Cities because *they* are.
Please explain how law-abiding gun owners are being “attacked”
Also how else do you propose cutting down on Straw Purchases without a national registery, without tracking who buys guns, without tracking guns from the maker to the buyer and without standardized national gun laws?
Williamson has hit the nail on the head. Well expressed.
@ mike, we are not being physically attacked, it is our Constitutional Right under the Second Amendment that that is being attacked, thus rendering us vulnerable to the criminal element.
Well, Mike, I think we could easily stand to start by prosecuting more then four percent of straw purchasers that are arrested, and especially the ATF should stop just releasing straw purchasers that have multiple violent felony convictions.
But that’s just my impression.
Roberto
How exactly are your rights being “attacked”?
Agreed.
Standard police work. Stop and frisk suspicious individuals on the street. Arrest people who possess guns they are not legally permitted to possess and interrogate them to find out where they got them. Even run sting operations to catch straw buyers.
The only purpose of a gun registry is to facilitate the state confiscation of weapons as happened in Nazi Germany, the United Kingdom, and Australia. (Yes, Australia was confiscation. Gun owners were threatened with prison if they did not participate in the “buyback” program.)
“I think we could easily stand to start by prosecuting more then four percent of straw purchasers that are arrested, and especially the ATF should stop just releasing straw purchasers that have multiple violent felony convictions.”
Great
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Then you should like a lot of what Obama because a lot of what he is doing is to stop straw purchases.
The reality is the law is pretty murky and a lot of what Obama did is to help shore up who is a seller, who can be prosecuted and how to do it.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/will-obamas-action-on-guns-help-prevent-deaths/
Hell 11/2 Years ago, the NRA was fighting in court to halt the prosecution of straw purchases. So you might want to demand that none of your donations goes to that effort.
http://www.npr.org/2014/06/16/322650543/supreme-court-rules-
against-straw-gun-purchases
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Actually, that’s a lie, mikey.
You see, Barack Obama doesn’t believe in prosecuting the people who illegally buy guns.
Barack Obama and the Barack Obama Party in fact shield known criminals from prosecution and turn loose known criminals to kill.
This is what makes you disgusting, mikey. You and your fellow Barack Obama supporters harass and treat law-abiding citizens like criminals for exercising our constitutional rights even as you aid, abet and use taxpayer dollars to fund and support known criminals.
Why? Because criminals support the Obama Party and law-abiding citizens don’t. Thus you act to strip rights from the law-abiding and punish those who obey the law while fawning over criminals so that you can get their votes.
Answer that, mikey. Why does your lying Obama support criminals?
No. His actions do not address straw purchases at all. And Prosecutions for straw purchases, as Williamson notes, are less than 4% of arrests.
That statement is slanderously inaccurate. The facts of the case are nothing of the sort.
Mikey is a good Nazi.
OK. Now littlemindedmikey has gone full fascist on us.
Since, littlelettermikey, you are OK with the IRS ferreting out who does not buy health insurance and now OK with having the national firearms registry tracking guns, gun owners, etc. when are you going to get on the bus and wipe out the creeps in the ghettos who are violating all sorts of long-standing, unenforced gun laws?
Guns don’t kill people. But littlemindedmikey, the fascist, is fixated on inanimate objects. People misusing guns kill people. The simple fascist only notices gun deaths caused by cops shooting the “gentle giant” or certified whackos who mow down people for psychotic gratification.
The white population demographic in the United States has the same murder rate as Belgium. Oops. That’s an inconvenient truth. Might it lead to profiling? Can’t have that.
Just like the health department inspects restaurants for health violations and keeps a special eye on repeat offenders, does it not make sense for the agents of promoting domestic tranquility to concentrate on the demographic groups who do a disproportionate number of gun crimes?
But the fascist answer is to weave a tangled web of laws and regulations full of contradictions, loopholes and political nonsense. In order for that recipe to work according to the fantasies and dreams of the creators, the continuum of power has to be yielded by like-minded fascists in perpetuity. Can’t let a Ted Cruze get his hands on the machinery of power.
How many tons of ammunition and millions of firearms are sitting inert under the control and the private ownership of men and women across the United States? I image the numbers would stagger the credulity of the average anti-gun fanatic. Yet, none of those inanimate objects has yet arisen on their own and brought havoc and chaos to the social order. What mysterious force explains the difference between guns in the subdivision and guns in the ghetto?
I would submit, it is entirely due to the bankrupt culture of too many disaffected people who desire more and juicer government tits and the entitlement to skip the whole personal responsibility part of living life within the boundaries of social order.
Littlemindedmikey is all stoked up on government control of what he doesn’t like and which he believe prevents his imaginary, utopian world from blossoming. He uses the law to quash “hate” speech. He wants fascist control of the guns, the message, the equalization of outcomes, the rise of the oceans, the temperature of the planet, social justice, politically correct diversity, elimination of failure, fascist defined tolerance, supporting partnerships that fight rejection and cultural arrogance and a public will to let a thousand flowers bloom.
Like Alinsky, littlemindedmikey, the fascist, can not allow the narrative to escape the process and vocabulary which is used to herd and guide the sheeple.
On April 4, 1967, Martin Luther King gave birth to much that inspires littlemindedmikey when he intoned: “True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar. It comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring.”
There you have it. Government must eliminate the beggars and that is done by ….. wait for it …… compassion.
Ever since they were issued their dance charts, the liberal fascists have been selling their heart-felt, world-embracing, compassion in one, ever ending piety dance. Only they have compassion, don’t you know.
With littlemindedmikey, it is not about the guns. It is about how the politically correct use of government power can redesign the nature of man and cultural humility guided by politically correct compassion and little bit of abortion, euthanasia and perhaps eugenics can bring about true Darwinian perfection. Praise Lenin, Mao, Castro and Adolf; all we need is the Triumph of the Will.
‘Then you should like a lot of what Obama because a lot of what he is doing is to stop straw purchases.
The reality is the law is pretty murky and a lot of what Obama did is to help shore up who is a seller, who can be prosecuted and how to do it.’
The Reality, Mike, is that the only thing Obama’s executive orders do is make it easier for common citizens to obtain NFA items such as silencers and fully automatic weapons, as they no longer are required to have the approval of the Chief Law Enforcement Officer.
They make the request for 500 million dollars of funding for mental illness – which is fantastic, don’t get me wrong, but as always i question the efficiency of government – and vastly increase the staffing at the NICS center – also fantastic, it means faster and more accurate checks.
They also have the potential to make life hard on people who occasionally sell guns to friends and family.
Absolutely none of it requires prosecuters to prosecute straw purchasers. And that would have been the easiest part of any EO…and wouldn’t even have been an overreach.
Answer me this, Mike. Why did then-Senator Harry Reid refuse to allow the Coburn amendment to be brought to the floor? It would have allowed private, Non-FFL citizens to make NICS go/no go requests. truly closing any possible ‘loophole.’
Heliotrope, you are spot on.
Mikey and his fellow Obama supporters are using the government to reward themselves and punish their enemies.
Perverted and mentally sick mikey wants to make it a crime for a law-abiding American citizen to purchase and own a gun while simultaneously demanding that lawbreaking illegal immigrants and the Obama gangbanger base be allowed to steal, rape and murder with impunity.
The way to prevent straw purchases is to put the people most likely to make them in jail. But as I have illustrated, insane and bigoted mikey and his Obama Party are turning loose people who make straw purchases and use guns to kill others while harassing and attacking law-abiding citizens who do follow the rules.
mike… please define a straw purchase… then tell us how a background check is going to stop straw purchases? Please frame your response with the information we know from the latest mass killing in CA.
Next : Over 350 people have been slaughtered in Chicago this year, please tell us how a gang banger who shoots at grandmothers and children on front porches is going to be stopped by either UBC or registration?
Next : In order to bring EVERYONE into compliance for registration of the 317+ million guns in the US, each home will have to be randomly searched. Are you willing to let the Feds knock on your door at 3:00 AM to search your house without a warrant? You see there are no records of who owns guns in the US.
Next : Please explain these stats (using the Obama drama we saw yesterday. A decade ago, gun crime convictions for the Feds was topping 9,000 per year. Under Obama, that number is 6,000. So, are illegal gun purchases a problem or not. You have clearly stated they are, so why in the last 7 years has Obama let an estimated 21,000 gun runners off the hook? Or are illegal purchases really not that big of a deal and Obama has another agenda? Which is it?
mikey also doesn’t get that the NRA doesn’t represent most gun owners. Less than 7% of gun owners are NRA members. The NRA supports the 2nd with a great big “but”…
The NRA is the little letter liberals scary boogie man under the bed.
Ugh! littlemindedmikey, the fascist intones @ #6:
Hmmm. Let me get this straight. The law = Congress and the approval of the President. The President has concerns with the murky part of the law. Therefore, the President unilaterally rewrites the law and lets Congress read about it in the papers.
Lets search the Constitution for that legislative process. OK. Lets not.
So, littlemindedmikey, the fascist, what is really going on here? You seem to be right there in the co-pilot seat with Obama the pilot. If this is just all business as usual Executive Branch stuff, why even call a press conference? Why would our Constitutional Scholar President bother to say that his actions are Constitutional? Obama, in his presser said:
Oh yeah? Who is “we”? The people at the background check? How does anyone decern who has criminal intent?
littlemindedmikey, the fascist, wants me to equate gay marriage with all other forms of cultural marriage. He wants me to respect gay marriage. Well, what if I don’t. What if I won’t bake him a cake?
Simple, my “intent” is all out of whack and I must be punished for not agreeing with his version of cultural humility.
So, this “intent” crapola rears its political correctness head in the liberal, fascist gun crusade. The TSA phrenology division will examine the penumbra emanating from the scull of gun owner wannabe and search it for “intent.” That ought to work.
Dear God, but these liberal fascists are just a bunch of kvetching yentas. They run their whole lives as if they are paid kibitzers on The View.
mike, it is painfully apparent that you have never tried to buy a gun in New York City or New Jersey, or all the paperwork needed to buy a gun in California. And also the large number of the types of guns that cannot be bought in many states.
I might point out that BHO has commuted sentences for felons with a history of using firearms in the commission of their crimes. And I might point out that one of the more notorious enablers of straw purchases is, wait for it, the US gov’t (Fast ‘n’ Furious).
There are, indeed, useful changes that could be made to gun laws but I don’t trust BHO. He doesn’t actually give a damn; his goal is the continuing attack on people he and the leftist just don’t like. His tears were crocodile tears seeing as how nonchalant he was after San Bernardino and his lack of concern for genocide of non-Muslims in the ME and Africa; his grinning on the golf course ten minutes after commenting on the beheading of an American reporter, etc. You know that six Americans died over XMAS in A-stan (why are our people still there? you tell me.) – BHO was on the golf course. What a jerk.
There’s a Chicago cop that blogs at http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com and a regular theme is the number of felons arrested with firearms let go by prosecutors and/or how little time is spent going after the sources of those guns. There are zero gun stores in Chicago.
#8
V please read the NRA’s brief amicus curiae in Abramski v. United States
I wait for your apology. Unless of course you have some more backtracking to do?
Helio:
” It is about how the politically correct use of government power can redesign the nature of man and cultural humility guided by politically correct compassion”
Um….gun laws are directly related to the fact that the nature if humans is unchangeable. Humans are not compassionate and humans like to harm each other. No law will change that.
All Obama is trying to do is clarify the vauge law so the executive branch can actually enforce the law.
Thats it!!!!!
And you guys freak out like a pack of queens over a really really minor thing.
God
If mikey was a Nazi it would be a vast improvement. He is only an ideal candidate for a FEMA camp guard.
“Therefore, the President unilaterally rewrites the law and lets Congress read about it in the papers.”
Not at all. I really think you need to stop stamping your foot and actually read what Obama did…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/01/05/here-is-how-obamas-most-controversial-new-action-on-guns-really-works-its-fairly-modest/?hpid=hp_opinions-for-wide-side_opinion-card-e%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
I have asked you folks to explain how Obama is “attacking” law abiding gun owners as V claims and noone can say how. Instead you react with over the top emotional arguments and projection. .. yet no facts or reality behind your claims
Telling
I think we all should start throwing questions back at mike with the little “m.”
So mike, what is the gun show loophole? Can online dealers ship guns to your home without background checks? Which state does not do background checks to buy guns?
mike,
I can’t answer your question about Obama, but I can tell you that before 2015, our family never owned a gun. By the end of 2016, we will own 8. (Two of them will be those scary looking AR-15) Obama has been the biggest salesman for the gun industry.
littlelettermikey:
I’m sorry, but to be blunt: I’m an ABSOLUTIST on the Constitution, including the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is my carry permit. What part of “shall not be infringed” are you unclear on?
Mikey, because my father is a veteran and was treated for depression after my mother died…your precious government can try and take his guns.
Mikey, because we use automatic payments to pay bills, we can be considered not competent to handle our finances…your precious government can try and take our guns.
This is what your precious fascists in the government came up with. Read the EO’s. Then read them again. Then have an adult read them to you. And explain them to you using the smallest words they can. As old as I am, I am still stunned at the level of stupidity people like you evince when it comes to how governments work. ANY government.
Oh, one more thing…Molon labe.
Whoa!!!!! littlemindedmikey, the fascist, goes completely off the rails of Classical Liberalism. At #19, he proclaims this:
littlemindedmikey, the fascist is pure Hobbes:
So, the State is compassionate or not depending on what forces are required in herding the sheeple. If you shut up and do as you are told, the State may well ignore you. But, first, last and always the State has no contract with the sheeple. The State is the sovereign entity.
littlemindedmikey, the fascist has gone so far left that he has crossed over the line into deep, deep totalitarianism. “The race, the nation, the folk, or whatever, are to be welded into a single entity, by the application of whatever force necessary.” Pure Hobbes.
I particularly note littlemindedmikey, the fascist’s point: “No law will change that.” Yep. The letter of the law can not change human nature that likes to harm and has no compassion. Only the power of the State can crush the mortal individual who doesn’t go along with the program.
Just a few comments back, littlemindedmikey, the fascist was all about the compassion of the State. Whew! Clearly, for littlemindedmikey, the fascist, man has no soul.
St Augustine believed humans to be mass peccati (mess of sin) and man can no more move or incline himself to God than an empty glass can fill itself. Only by divine grace can the soul be liberated. This is anathema to secular humanists who believe themselves to be especially imbued with compassion. So, they take their elite status and gravitate to the State where they accumulate power and rule by enforced “reason.”
For the secular humanist, man doesn’t need God, let alone a Savior to save him from anything. Man has the natural ability to choose to be righteous if properly herded by the State.
When you read the babble of littlemindedmikey, the fascist you are looking into the dystopian world of meaninglessness and alienation where free will is controlled in exchange for security and the pleasure principle. The God State doles out “free” housing, food, health care, education, etc. Everything is about guilt-free social justice and self-esteem all enforced by the God State. All you have to do is Love, Love, Love the State.
The problem here is that the dysfunctional child mikey has absolutely no concept of rights.
In a normal person’s world, you have rights, period; the government is not allowed to infringe on those rights, or if it is, that infringement must be as limited as possible. The rights derive from your existence; the government is to safeguard and respect your rights, but that’s it.
In the Obama Party mikey world, no one has any rights unless the government gives them those rights. Hence, the imbecile Mikey, just like the fake Constitutional scholar Obama, is mystified as to how we can say he’s attacking our rights — because in their addled and idiotic mind, we have no rights without the government’s permission.
If mikey weren’t so dishonest, he would clearly state that he and his Obama believe no one should be allowed to speak, worship or own guns without government approval. What makes it more hypocritical is how the bigot and idiot mikey and the crying child Obama insist that gay-sex marriage and abortion, neither of which have explicit Constitutional protection, cannot be limited by government.
“If mikey weren’t so dishonest, he would clearly state that he and his Obama believe no one should be allowed to speak, worship or own guns without government approval”
No I am not so absolutist as you, I see the color gray and not the left/right, black/white world like you do.
BUT, I would say, isn’t that what happens now? The gov limits who can own weapons of mass destruction, the gov limits certain speech amd the gov limits some form of religion.
In the world of reality, all of the above happens for various reasons – sometimes good/sometimes bad.
So I ask again, what is Obama doing that “attacks” gun owners?
Meh, I’m still waiting for l’il mikey brownshirt to identify the website where violent convicted felons can legally purchase firearms without a background check.
littlemindedmikey, the fascist @ #29 stops short of totally exposing his real philosophy:
He left out the big ones: right/wrong and good/evil.
Here’s the deal. There is a bright line between pregnant and not pregnant, dead and alive, factual and not factual, touchdown and no touchdown, abortion and fetal life, a rifle and a weapon of mass destruction, blathering and inciting to riot, climate change and man-caused Earth destruction.
littlemindedmikey, the fascist can only dwell in the gray areas he dreams up and carves out for himself. Christianity won’t permit that game, so he flips it off. Ethics won’t permit that game so he conducts his ethics according to the nuances of the situation he constructs in order to effect an outcome that is positive to his cause. Moral codes won’t permit that game so he uses a self-tailored, self-selected morality that is relative to the outcome he prefers.
This gray world of littlemindedmikey, the fascist is a very dull swamp of ambiguity, equivocation, and inconclusiveness. That is its utility; it is meant to hinder and obfuscate.
He returns time and again imposing new arrangements of conditionals for the debate and then spreads more illogical shards, dregs and debris.
littlemindedmikey, the fascist can not survive outside of the gray area. Every aspect of his existence depends on the makeshift, ephemeral state of life in the dependent and provisional zone. He traps and wraps himself in the fate of standing at the center of the intersection of the crossroads of circumstance. He tilts at the windmills of fate, karma, kismet and happenstance.
Social justice, fairness, tolerance, diversity, equality, political correctness, hate speech, homophobia, xenophobia, racism are but examples of the various bits and pieces of the gray swamp of ambiguity and inconclusiveness where littlemindedmikey, the fascist cavorts, frolics and mucks about.
@4 mike,
Go back and reread my comment #2, addressed to you. Read it slowly and try to think about the answer. Anybody with a brain will understand it without parsing.
Of course, mikey.
That’s because you need something that allows Bill Clinton to sexually harass and rape as many women as he wants while condemning Republicans for a so-called “war on women”.
The reason you “see gray” is because, as Heliotrope puts it, you deny the very existence of any objective morality. In your deluded little world, good is whatever you need it to be at any given moment and evil is anything that disagrees with you. As even you have admitted, there is nothing that an Obama Party member or person could do that you would condemn or consider wrong.
Uh huh.
The government limited the age of consent and mikey shrieked that “attacks gays”.
The government limited who can abort and mikey shrieked that “attacks women”.
And yet, when it comes to actual, real constitutional rights, the imbecile mikey insists that limits on them attack no one.
Again, mikey, it’s convenience. You hate freedom of speech, ownership of guns, and religion, so you believe the government should suppress and punish people for practicing them despite Constitutional prohibition; however, you support abortion and sex with minors, so you scream that those are inalienable rights, even though they’re nowhere listed in the Constitution.
And this is why no one believes or trusts you, mikey. We know you will blather, spin and troll any ludicrous thing in order to get what you want. You’re a liar, bluntly put, and a selfish child who uses the threat of tantrums to get his way.
mike4
Woulod you be willing to give up your First Amendment right to free speech in exchange for me giving up my right under the Second Amendment to gun ownership?