Yeah, just when you think he can’t possibly sink any lower than talking about Megyn Kelly’s menstrual cycle or saying George W. Bush was responsible for 9-11.
And his slobbering followers are lapping it up.
Because they are as mindless and impervious to reason and good sense as Obama’s followers.
I think I’ve officially gone from #NeverTrump to #NeverEverNoFkingWayNotEvenIfYouHeldAGunToMyHeadTrump.
At this point, Hillary could pick Chuck Schumer as her running mate, Gloria Allred as her Supreme Court pick, and Huma Abedin as First Lady and I would still be #NoFkingWayTrump
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Trump won’t be a disaster. It’s either vote for him or end up purposely or essentially supporting Benghazi, Email-Scandal, Inept Hillary. I’ve been pro-, but not cheerleading, Cruz. Until he decided to cement his religion on his sleeve like a gob of toxic BS. Cruz is the disaster now. Completely. Such a disappointment to many.
We’ve seen all of Trump’s warts & bumps. It took awhile for the Cruz reality to raise its mendacious head. I cannot abide Cruz’ father & Cruz is an exact copy without tent-preacher credentials.
He’ll make a good member of SCOTUS.
The reality is, Trump is doing & saying what he needs to, to be elected. It’s working. It’s not the intellectual elite that he’s needed to communicate to. He’s proved that he can throw mud & Hillary is already a filthy mess.
I like his gumption & I understand his humor. If it takes vulgarity to expel the Dems out of the WHouse for decades; then that’s what needs to be done.
Dear God, seriously? Seriously?! Christ Almighty.
All in all, the entire conservative movement, both those who went for Trump and those who opposed him, have conducted themselves rather disreputably. It got utterly consumed by panic and tore itself apart. Both sides turned into the straw men the Left has been holding up for so long. I’m not saying the Left has been right all along- hell no, I will always and forever oppose the madness of the Left- but the Right has really lost its luster- those who convinced me to overlook Trump’s glaring problems, those who demonized anybody who looked favorably or even insufficiently poorly on Trump, and those who are having buyers remorse.
I’m sorry. Count me with the growing number of people on the Right who are finally waking up and realizing that Trump was the wrong way to go. I didn’t listen to the warnings, and I’m sorry. Can I be let back into the club, please?
At this point, I don’t what I’m doing in the general election. It’s a sad statement that the socialist has run the most honest campaign.
Sorry I refuse to vote for Hildabeast or the Bern man. Nor will I sit out the election. If Trump is on the ticket I will vote for him. Hell I voted for McLame, and Romnuts. So why not Trump?
@ KC: The mood I’m in, I would be sorely tempted to vote Sanders as a punishment vote regardless of who the Republican nominee is. He’s the only one who I would consider to be up-front and honest, and that’s a scary, scary statement.
But you’re right. After “Muslims love democracy” Bush, “I was a POW, vote for me!” McCain, and “I’m not actually sure I want to be President” Romney, “I’ll say literally anything” Trump isn’t particularly novel. Not like conservatism can become any more of a joke than it already is.
This story was around before Trump was even in the GOP primary race. Liberal web sites such as Talking Point Memo, Wonkette and Democrat Underground as well as less mainstream sites have referenced it in the past.
Google “Raphael Cruz and Lee Harvey Oswald” and set the time range to before May 2014 and you will find references to it.
Crazy speculation or not, Trump did not start it and has not been the only one using it against the junior senator from Texas.
Just trying to keep things in perspective.
@ Hold My Nose: Perpetuating a false rumor is still wrong, even if you don’t start it. Besides, he had to stoop to quoting the National freakin Enquirer. An article that has been thoroughly debunked.
Over the decades I’ve voted for both Bushes repeatedly, John McCain, Mitt Romney and Bob Dole. Even Reagan I had misgivings about for letting the Social Conservatives gain so-much influence over the Party, but voted for him. So I can’t make any sudden claims to high-minded electoral principles when it comes to Donald J. Trump.
So I’ll vote for Trump, but NEVER for Lying Ted Cruz.
You know, I don’t like Trump much, but at this point I really have to weigh the “lesser of two evils” that everyone is constantly talking about and consider that advancing an absolutely idiotic conspiracy theory is vastly less of an evil than the guaranteed economic collapse that we’ll end up with if we elect Hillary or Bernie. If the choices are “a president who is kept in supreme check by Congress for a change” versus “a president who Congress NEVER opposes in a million years and allowed to do whatever they wish” well… it’s going to have to be the first one. Otherwise, we’ll be patting ourselves on the back for being principled while warming ourselves around a burning trashcan out on the streets.
Personally, I’m still hoping for President Cruz, but let’s not kid ourselves. If Obama was horrendous, Hillary will be apocalyptic.
@ Kilroy: That’s just about the only thing that’s keeping me from skipping the general election. As much as Trump makes me cringe, I would rather shoot myself than not do something to try and keep Hillary out.
I don’t see how Cruz could possibly get anything done if he’s elected president. The Republicans on the Hill utterly despise him. He would be filibustered and stonewalled until the very last day of his presidency.
I am voting #neverHillary. I don’t care for any of the candidates though I say that every presidential election but this time it seems worse than ever.
Nothing can be worse than Obama and the continuation of the BS under Hillary. Plus Even if Hillary was not a lying murdering, rape enabling skankles, I would vote against her to keep that disgusting rape hoaxer, pedophille, sexual harasser Lena Dunham from further nastying up the WH. I have no real hope Lena will move to Canada if a GOP candidate is elected.
@ Sandra: As much as I don’t like Trump… I despise a lot of the people who don’t like him even more.
We are so screwed. Just when I thought Trump was moving past his bomb-throwing… I’m starting to go back to my “let it burn” thinking… if we’re headed over the falls, let’s just get it over with.
#SMOD2016
#feelthebern
@ KCRob: I would contemplate voting for Bernie, but he’s got the SJW cult members in his pocket, and I’d shoot myself before I sided with those wackos on anything. And I just flat-out loathe Hillary. The most I can muster for Trump (and Cruz, for that matter) is mild disgust.
So, folks. If Bernie somehow gets elected President, how about we make that whole conservative/libertarian colony happen? As long as we agree never to discuss this primary process, I’m not sure the wounds are ever going to heal.
why is that no one in the never trump crowd ever points out that without the duplicitous behavior of mc Connell, Boehner, ryan, Rubio, rove, barbour, jeb bush, pribius, ellemers, graham, mc cain, mia love, the entire GOPe there never would have been a Donald trump candidacy. the never trump crown says trump is not a conservative, well who the hell in the republican party is. it is axiomatic the only time a republican is a conservative is when they are running for office. you have been voting for fake conservatives for decades why should one more bother you.
The #NeverTrump people either don’t get what Trump is doing to take control of the media and the news cycle or they are and are scared their comfy conservative media gravy train is derailing.
See the deal is that these conservative pundits make their living by selling books, going on TV, tours to their special little niche. Suddenly “not a real Conservative” Trump shows up and destroys their formula for success. Even though the Conservative media like to pretend they’re not part of the Establishment – they are.
A “real conservative” is what they say it is. Trump voters don’t give a crap about him being a real Conservative or a real Republican. They probably don’t even give a crap about the party. This is about something bigger.
@ salg: Take a look at Bruce’s twitter feed. All those guys are already on the blacklist he’s got going that I mentioned in the next comments section.
Salg: Well stated and completely accurate.
Our long national nightmare is over…. Lying Ted Cruz has quit.
@ Ted B.: I disliked how Cruz represented himself on the campaign trail and found his last-minute wild pitch to the evangelicals bizarre and insulting, but I would hardly call Cruz “lying.” I remember applauding Cruz’s filibusters and refusal to go along with the Establishment without kicking up a fuss. I still respect him for his conservative positions, and would love to see him get appointed to the Supreme Court.
He was hardly a “nightmare” in my book. Yes, we can focus on the general election now, but Trump’s tactics have left us in a very bad position, and we are facing the very real risk of the incumbent’s party winning the White House, which hasn’t happened since H.W. Bush. That, to me, is a far greater nightmare. And if we are honest with ourselves, Trump has helped to make it so.
Can any of the “Nevertrump equals Hillary people”, explain a real difference between the Hillary and Trump besides gender and a bad toupee? Nevermind what he says (That changes every five minutes), what has he ever done that makes you think he’d do a good job?
Hillary might even be better in that I’m fairly sure she’s had a stroke and may die before the election is over.
Purely a personal view but, …I would not want Ted Cruz in the SCOTUS ever, I don’t want him in the US Senate after his term ends, I don’t want him in further public office in Texas, I don’t want to hear from him ever again….
You may get your wish after his current term expires; his popularity among Texans has rapidly declined since the first of the year. I’ll leave it to commenters from the Lone Star State and the chattering class therein to explain why.
This thread is appended to a bumper sticker philosophy post.
The only bumper sticker philosophy I ascribe to without reservation is
Sometimes, as W.C. Fields noted: “you have to take the bull by the tail and face the situation.”
In my lifetime, I have voted for Goldwater to quash Vietnam, Nixon for ending the civil chaos and Vietnam twice, Ford by default, Reagan with gusto, ’41 with fingers crossed, Dole while holding my nose, twice for’43 on the “anyone is better” ticket, McCain on the same ticket and Romney praying for Obama’s defeat.
My point is that we rarely get the candidate we think we want. And, I think that is true in large part because we don’t actually know what constitutes our supposedly “shared” ideology.
Trump is not politically ideological. So, those who are looking for an ideologue who is principle driven are turning out to be the sorest losers in this Trump coronation. Get over it.
Trump pulled off a “coup” by getting the most votes. Now, just how sleazy and radical is that?
The Republican Party is firmly embedded in the big government merry-go-round of K Street lobbyists, perpetual reelection fund raising, power brokering and feathering nests. You can hardly find a honest man among them.
It is anyone’s guess what Trump will do. Returning jobs to America is not a fairy Godmother “Bippity Boppity Boo” sort of instant magic. Crushing ISIS is not a matter of dusting off a shelved plan. Unscrambling the scrambled eggs created by Obama’s minions in the Middle East is like trying to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. But, succeed or fail, at least Trump has the Moxie to confront the problems.
Trump has stirred up a whole bunch of the disaffected, disgusted and mad as Hell tribe who are not particularly impressed with all the big government establishment and their smoke and mirrors. The global economy deceit has proven that you can’t have a high standard of living without high paying jobs. Castro and the Venezuela knock-offs have shown the truth of socialism. Meanwhile, much of Europe is running out of other people’s money and they are importing Muslims to do the dirty work which their socialist poor don’t have to do because of welfare.
So, perhaps an “America First” dominator is what is in vogue. If Trump is to succeed, he will have to confront and deal with the liberal mobs infesting every agency of government, the courts, Congress and the media. Horatio, he isn’t. George Washington he isn’t.
Trump has made it through the larval stage. Now we have to see what he grows into being. Trying to guess that outcome will be a useless as the #NeverTrump crowd was in trying to stop his momentum.
The Trump momentum was not due to his inevitability. It was due to the dynamic force in the hinterlands that connected with The Donald in myriad ways. Attempting to analyze Trump is as impossible as it was to stop his rise. The Trump populism of today was a surpass to many, including Trump.
I really hope all of you who are claiming you are not going to vote in November for Trump will reconsider. Think about how well sitting on the sidelines worked for our country in 2012? You are entitled to your opinion. You have several months to really think about this decision. Just remember if you don’t vote, you have no right to complain about what happens if the dems win and continue to destroy our country.
In the American binary electoral system, any third-party vote or abstained-vote against Trump is a explicit vote for Hillary….assuming the Sanders partisans are willing to (grudgingly) support her.
The implicit advantage of the Electoral College is it (usually) provides a substantial mandate for the wining candidate to govern-by once sworn-in, even if the popular vote was razor-thin tilted in either direction.
Of my Republican friends and acquaintances, and they are many, there is a strong plurality that will not vote for Trump. Most are drawn to Gary Johnson. No, he cannot win, but my vote is a protest and one of conscience. V the K is right: You would have to put a gun to my head to vote for that evil, narcissistic so called man.
I will be getting a Libertarian bumper sticker once the nominee is known. Plus a Never Trump bumper sticker beside it.
@v the k was the campaign of ted cruz anymore honorable than Donald trump’s? I was a cruz supporter and still am but his campaign tactics were as dishonest and disreputable as anything the rnc does. I offer up the Mississippi senatorial race as an example.
the difference between myself and the nevertrump crowd is while I liked cruz I never disliked trump. any dislike I have is for trump supporters. I feel that every American that cares about the future of the united states as a free country owes trump an eternal debt of gratitude for raising the colonization question which every politician has ignored or dodged for almost forty years. your gay rights or transgender rights won’t amount to a hill of beans if your living in a communist country. which is the sole purpose of the colonization of the united states that the left has been conducting since 1980.
The #NeverTrump crowd is full of hypocrites. They’re probably the same people that ragged on Ron Paul supporters for refusing to vote for Romney Rich four years ago. NOW they’re talking about voting on principles and refusing to vote for the lesser evils? FUCK THAT NOISE! They created the mess that allowed Trump’s rise. You #NeverTrump-ers have no room to talk. Time for you to drink your medicine.
And if you’re so adamant about not voting for Trump, I hope you’re still smug when Shrillary’s new SCOTUS rules that 12-year-old transgender girls have a right to free abortions for all trimesters…oh, and the abortions will be performed by an illegal immigrant (of course).
No matter what you’d like to think about Trump the few facts are:
He’s had nothing to do with creating the policies that has put our country in the mess it’s in. YOu can slice it any way you want, but those are hard facts.
He’s not part of the club, which includes Dems and Cons and that group is fearful of a Trump or Sanders presidency, because their little club will become irrelevant.
For this alone I want Trump, or Sanders, because the current system has failed. Anything would be better than more of the Clintons, Bushes, Kennedy’s, Reids Pelosi’s, Ranglels, Obamas, Rove’s, Bill Kristol’s etc.
Thats all I have to say!!!!!
Hmmm…”protest votes”….frankly, any aid and comfort to the Hilderbeast is damn wrong IMO. Then again, people with bumper stickers ….why????
Paul @ 32: “32.The #NeverTrump crowd is full of hypocrites. They’re probably the same people that ragged on Ron Paul supporters for refusing to vote for Romney Rich four years ago. NOW they’re talking about voting on principles and refusing to vote for the lesser evils? FUCK THAT NOISE!”
I have a very low opinion of both Paul and Trump.
That said, Amen. Most of the #NeverTrump crowd are hypocrites.
ex-army BlogSpot said it best about TRUMP
http://ex-army.blogspot.com/
Once you’ve allowed the barbarians through the gates, any swashbuckling ruffian who is willing to pick up a sword and push them back out again is an ally. We can worry about what the city should look like once we’ve put out the fires and have stopped the barbarians from actively setting more of them.
Firstly, there is zero comparison between Ron Paul and Donald Trump, save for the fanaticism of some of the supporters of each. The fanatical supporters of both are boorish and obnoxious, much as The Donald is. (I really don’t think Dr Paul deserved some of the supporters that he was stuck with; they really did more to dampen enthusiasm for his campaign than bring in new energy.)
Secondly it is just not true that not voting for president, or voting for a third-party is the same as electing Queen Granny Cackles. It really all depends on where one lives. In my very red state with a minuscule number of electoral votes, no candidate’s campaign gives a crap after the conventions. It hasn’t supported a Democrat for president since 1964 and is unlikely to do so this year, given that the presumed choice of the Democrats is someone who makes LBJ look conservative, demure, and timid by comparison. Therefore, if the candidates for both major parties are indeed as they appear to be today, I will vote for the Libertarian candidate (presumably Gary Johnson) with a clear conscience. For those who live in swing states, it will still depend on how things look as the election season approaches its conclusion.
Thirdly, Agent Orange is doing his best to ensure he will become the next Walter Mondale, with an Electoral College blowout. Every day, there’s another group he does his best to alienate. If he keeps it up, it won’t matter if he gets every Republican voter registered to vote in 2012 plus all the alleged ‘new’ voters: he will lose the independents and swing voters essential to victory. He’s already telling voters in West Virginia to not vote in the primary. I’m beginning to wonder if Glenn Beck’s thesis last week is correct: he’s sabotaging his campaign in order to save himself the ignominy of just dropping out.
dave@32 sanders has nothing to do with the current policies that are ruining the country?
After decades of being told anyone but Hillary, now they come out against Trump because they see a loss of their political power. Shows you who’s in bed with who. In past elections we were told, you’ll vote who we tell you to vote for, for the good of the party. Now that the people have spoken all hell erupts because it wasn’t their guy(s). So they sure can dish it out, but they can’t take it.