The media narrative is that an evil white cis-gendered male jock [four things the left hates] found an unconscious woman behind a dumpster and raped her. The facts of the case, as usual, are a little blurrier. The man and the woman were at a party together, they were both very intoxicated, she left the party with him willingly and made out behind the dumpster with him, willingly, before passing out. She passed out, he kept going. The details of the physical assault are somewhat vague but the conviction indicates he penetrated her with a ‘foreign object.’ This may have fallen short of what Whoopi Goldberg would call “rape-rape” if it had been done by someone she is more sympathetic to.
This is not a defense of anything he did. Even the most charitable reading of the circumstances indicates the guy committed a form of sexual assault and earned legal consequences. It’s pretty cut-and-dried. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. One is just observing that The Narrative simply omits mitigating circumstances that might make a six-month sentence seem a little less outrageous. Or, not.
[Over/Under on the first troll to ignore the previous five or six sentences and claim that this post is defending rape?]
Anyway, the judge who passed down the sentence and his family are receiving death threats; because that’s the language of disagreement in the 21st Century.
Whoopi, by the way, has said she thinks the judge in the case was racially biased and all judges are racially biased. So, she finally agrees with Donald Trump on something.
I wonder if any of the people who are outraged over this sentence are outraged that Historic First (TM) Democrat Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton helped a man who raped a twelve year old girl escape punishment on a legal technicality?
Probably not. That’s not how the Outrage Machine works.
Hillary’s defense of a child-rapist is not an outrage because she’s a left-wing Democrat woman.
Mitigating circumstances, one could say.
Leftists said that the Mexican who was caught on video in Santa Cruz tossing the body of 8yo Maddy Middleton into a dumpster after he raped her to death was too stupid to face whatever minor consequences California has. Its not like CA would kill him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3180072/Adrian-Gonzalez-duct-taped-8-year-old-Maddy-Middleton-girl-raping-murdering-her.html
Oh wait why didn’t the media put out like it did the great white defendant. Its like the black moslem serial killer of gays in 3 states, Ali Mohamad Brown all over again.
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You’re on your own with this one as far as I’m concerned, V the K.
Two male eye witnesses caught him violating an unconscious woman and had to physically pull her off of her. In my book, that’s pretty unambiguously “rape.”
Rape is one of those crimes that I’m all for strengthening the penalties. Castration, anyone?
Looks like we owe you a beer, V.
Following up on SL,
Another unusual component of the case
There were eyewitnesses. Two graduate students were riding their bikes through Stanford’s campus when they saw, “a man on the ground, thrusting toward a body,” The Mercury News reported in March.
What struck the two young Swedes was that the partner wasn’t moving: She seemed almost comatose. “Hey, is everything all right?” Lars Peter Jonsson remembers asking. It was then, he says, that the man moved and he saw a woman beneath him, her dress pulled up to expose her genitals. “Hey, what the f are you doing?” Jonsson says he asked. “She’s unconscious.”
The man, whom police have identified as Brock Turner, at the time a Stanford swimmer, attempted to flee. Jonsson testified that he gave chase, tripping Turner and then jumping on him. Arndt joined him shortly afterward while a third man called sheriff’s deputies.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/what-makes-the-stanford-rape-case-so-unusual/486374/
I do not believe Bill Clinton or Roman Polanski should get a pass, but rather the reflections from the Atlantic article merit serious reflection,
“But there’s danger in looking at sexual violence this way. For one thing, the true scope of these crimes is notoriously difficult to measure. Despite widespread efforts to understand sexual assault, there’s no official clearinghouse that attempts to track its prevalence. Complicating matters further, many victims remain voiceless, and understandably so: They’re often traumatized and afraid people won’t believe them, which is why many victims are reluctant to tell anyone what has happened to them in the first place. It’s impossible to know how many sexual assaults go unreported.”
I misread the bit about mitigating circumstances to mean that you approved of the six-month sentence. Which, apparently, has been reduced to three months.
For the record, I think Hillary is an awful woman for helping that man get off. And while Bill Clinton and Roman Polanski have not had their crimes proven in a court of law… let’s be real, who doesn’t think there isn’t at least some modicum of truth to the accusations?
This website has taken a sad turn.
Going through some of the archive you can read some well reasoned articles discussing why the author was conservative and attempted to actually further conservative ideas.
Now you have posters comparing Clinton doing her constitutional duty by defending the indefensible, to dumpster rape.
To quote the leading conservative mind of the day Donald Trump: “its pathetic really”
V the K, (#7) I’ll be happy to pay up. If you’re ever in Portsmouth, Virginia, and my schedule works with yours….
mike (#10), I think it’s not so much getting her client off, which was indeed her duty to try to do, but she apparently crowed about the results and the use of the technicality/cheap trick. Then when it’s convenient, she says that all victims should get the benefit of the doubt, after her history of actively defending her wandering husband in the political and societal sense from his activities. (Which she’s still kind of doing.)
No one above has defended the (I’m not a lawyer, I’ll use the word in the normal sense) rapist. Various aspects of the case have been pointed out, and the vitriol against the judge and his family have been decried. All conservative points.
And regarding Polanski and the others, let’s have the trials so we can establish legally what did or didn’t happen and work from there.
Um, didn’t Polanski have his trial and fled?
Funny, the argument
illicit shrieks of outrage when a man says it, but when a woman says it, apparently it’s okay! You slut-shame that pre-teen, Hils!
Little letter mike’s argument would carry far more weight if he had ever tried to engage in genuine conversation rather than troll and repeat tired old Leftists falsehoods.
“The man and the woman were at a party together, they were both very intoxicated, she left the party with him willingly and made out behind the dumpster with him” This is the part that leads me to think it wasn’t rape. Over and over again, after the fact there are many women who want to sleep with athletes and then brag to their friends. Then after word gets back to family or others, the story completely changes to “I was raped.” Time and time again we have seen this story played out. “She passed out.” If she passed out, then I believe the guy was sleepwalking.
No mention of the father’s plea? Didn’t think so.
Hey, it was only “20 minutes of action.” Nothing to get p1ssed off about, right?
@ Paul in N. AL: The Macedonians had a rather dichotomous view towards sexual relations: men had sex with men when then wanted pleasure; women were the sole province of marriage and baby-making. If guys stopped having sex with women for pleasure, how much would that cut down on false rape allegations?
This is the part which has bothered me about this case. I’ve not read all the articles, nor the court docs, but the above statement seems to be the logical conclusion to everything I’ve seen about the case to date. Yes, the victim was lucky there were passers-by and yes, it was good that she went through the process to get the accused held responsible. She has also been lauded for her ‘articulate’ account of her ordeal. That’s all well and good; but I kind of long for the old days when an appropriate amount of shame was also present. She wasn’t assaulted at knifepoint while walking down a public street and taken into a dark alley. She willingly went to a location with the perpetrator and passed out, without any indication of being drugged. She. Passed. Out. Behind a Dumpster! There was a time when just that fact would have caused both a victim and many victim advocates to say “Maybe we don’t have such a good case here, and let’s not expect too much.” But thanks to narratives like Emma The Mattress Bimbo’s, anything that doesn’t come with a notarized consent form is invalid when it comes to the realm of sexual activity.
It’s one thing to hold a woman responsible for their assault in every instance, as in the case with many Arab and South Asian cultures (in many cases the impetus for “honor killings”), but it’s quite another to say that the woman in such cases never bears any responsibility for her situation. In corporate law, the concept of “contributory negligence” is used to assign responsibility for actions which have caused harm. It’s time that concept comes back, just a bit, into the realm of sexual assault.
Well, Cinesnatch, coming from you that isn’t surprising. You already have supported and defended the way Islamic terrorists kill gays. For you, this is just icing on the cake.
Regards,
Peter H.
Not exactly, Livewire. He was awaiting trial but fled the USA, hence the warrant for his arrest.
Interestingly enough, the two Hollywood stars who were also complicit in this affair – Anjelica Huston and Jack Nicholson – didn’t suffer any backlash to their careers. Funny how that worked out…
Regards,
Peter H.
Yes it has, Little Letter Mikey. Allowing posters like you, Rusty Cut-and-Paste and Cinesnatch al-Cray Cray Qaeda to bloviate lies and falsehoods has certainly turned it into a Section 8 site.
*Drops mic*
Regards,
Peter H.
Huh I read he fled after trial but before sentencing. I stand corrected
others is the rent you pay for your room here on earth.
Ali
More importantly, how much would it improve my chances of actually getting laid once in a while?
Oops.
Service to others. . .
Ali
I know where I’m going and I know the truth, and I don’t have to be what you want me to be. I’m free to be what I want.
Muhammad Ali
“Mama said knock you out.”
–L.L. Cool J.
*Drops mic*
Regards,
Peter H.
Funny how, despite the apparent epidemic of GHB and other “date rape” drugs in gay bars, that we never hear condemnation of LGBT rapists or calls for them to be arrested and put away for life.
Or condemnations of LGBT who rape and sexually molest children.
Again, this whole kerfuffle is because the left needs to push a narrative of the white male as rapist. Entertaining that the Bay Area went nuts over this case given that, when a black man who was working as a pimp committed multiple rapes and shot four police officers, the Obama Party and the “feminists” supported HIM instead.
And NDT, compare that to the faux-outrage in the Brock Turner rape story.
Bias? What liberal bias?
Regards,
Peter H.
Someone hear doesn’t really understand the meaning of *mic drop*.