The Gay Left Bitterly Clings to Political Correctness
So, let me get this straight… (as it were)…
Obama’s FBI interviewed the Muslim Democrat terrorist three times on suspicions that he was involved in terrorist activity, but let him go each time.
Florida Law Enforcement gave the Muslim Democrat terrorist a license to work as an armed security guard despite a history of domestic violence and erratic behavior.
Orlando Police waited outside the nightclub for three hours while the Muslim Democrat terrorist murdered people on the inside.
And the response of the Gay Community is to demand that *we* be disarmed and trust the Government to protect us?
[And, of course, to blame Christian Conservatives for the actions of a Muslim Democrat.]
WTF is wrong with people?
To hell with that.
Buy yourself a gun before the Gay Community makes any other bright decisions for you.
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Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 8:34 am - June 13, 2016
Most dance clubs make their money from alcohol over cover charges, etc. Additionally, in most clubs, there is no specific delineation between, say, a bar, and a dance floor, outside of the infrequent separate room that is for dancing only.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 8:38 am - June 13, 2016
This was not a hate crime, it was an act of pious devotion.
A deliberate self-martyrdom in the cause of Islamic Jihad.
It’s participation in what they consider a central sacrament of their Faith.
The conceptual failure of the Left is to excuse acts of this nature as “hate”. It has nothing to do with hate. It’s done coolly, dispassionately, even joyously in the Name of his God. Until our leaders and elites understand this reality, of-course they are going to fail to address this as what it is; an abomination against Western Liberal civilization.
The Carthaginians sacrificed their own living children to Ba’al.
The Aztecs cut-out the living hearts out of their victims to appease their Gods.
Would you tolerate this today? Excuse it, or ruthlessly stamp it out?
Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — June 13, 2016 @ 8:40 am - June 13, 2016
So, this talk of arming the citizens is cute and all. But, if you are speaking of this being another instance where armed citizens could have stopped these deaths, there’s actually a major legal hurdle you’re not even addressing.
But, hey, the answer is always so simple, right? And, hey, allowing firearms be allowed in establishments that serves alcohol as its main function is a super idea.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 8:45 am - June 13, 2016
Long live the Pink Pistols. Was gratified to see them in last year’s SF TBLQGXYZ pride parade. Hopefully all their chapters have an entry in their respective parades this year. The mainstream queers need to get over the “Guns are icky!” groupthink.
Comment by RSG — June 13, 2016 @ 8:52 am - June 13, 2016
You’re presenting an either/or fallacy.
The fact is, but, lol, at your knee-jerk reaction to arming citizens in situations where it’s against the law, and not first addressing the law that would need to be struck down (and consequently trying to save face).
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 9:02 am - June 13, 2016
You also seem to refuse to be educated. Can’t deal with that.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 9:09 am - June 13, 2016
It appears the radical muslim extremists have no intent on rekindling the alliance between the 2%er national socialists/communists/progressives they shared during WWII. The Gay Left and those hostile to the COTUS and the Bill of Rights have no proxy for their continued assault.
Comment by rjligier — June 13, 2016 @ 9:22 am - June 13, 2016
In my favorite bar/restaurant, the bartender has access to a gun. (I’m pretty sure the rest of the staff knows where the bar pistol is as well.) That should be enough for most situations. Even though I think that carrying concealed is fine for non-felons is most situations, I don’t feel comfortable with the idea of customers at a bar and dance club having firearms with them. Too many chances for problems when passions are inflamed and increased by alcohol.
But to go back to the original subject, blaming conservatives for this jihadi action is nuts. And unfortunately the usual suspects will try to take away our rights in order to “protect” us. That is the real threat in the aftermath of this tragedy. Buy firearms and ammunition while you can (and get training and practice), but don’t be stupid about where you carry.
Comment by TheQuietMan — June 13, 2016 @ 9:26 am - June 13, 2016
What percentage of this country do you think blames conservative Christians for the Orlando shooting? Honestly. We’re probably talking about a microscopic percentage, some of whom happen to have a voice, like any fringe-group you can cherrypick to make a point. The Federal, State, and Local Governments have failed to stop known terrorists under other presidencies. This isn’t conspiracy theory. They’re just f*cking inept (both on the left and right). The bottom-line is a nut-job killed over fifty people and injured just as many. The answer isn’t to ban all Muslims. I don’t think the answer is arm all citizens either. Maybe it is. I don’t know what the answers are, quite honestly.
And, per earlier comments, no, I don’t give a sh!t if a Christian doesn’t want to bake a gay wedding cake. So stop ascribing that association to me.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 9:29 am - June 13, 2016
Oh, re law enforcement. The local reaction may have taken as long as it did to get enough people and equipment in place. As bad as it was, it probably sounded worse on the initial nine-one-one calls, and so they tried to be ready for anything.
I have no insight to the apparent failures of the licensing and FBI interviews.
Comment by TheQuietMan — June 13, 2016 @ 9:31 am - June 13, 2016
Sorry, my response was to #10.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 9:34 am - June 13, 2016
Islam delenda est.
Comment by Bastiat Fan — June 13, 2016 @ 9:35 am - June 13, 2016
I was taken by the many hundreds of people who stood in the hot sun for many hours to donate blood for the Pulse massacre victims yesterday. I am sure that very many of them were Christians and probably many conservates. The left has a template, which like a Procrustean Bed, must be made to fit any scenario regardless of the actual facts.
Comment by Holding My Nose — June 13, 2016 @ 10:03 am - June 13, 2016
Cinesnatch, I have a question for you: Where are these radical, militant, extremist Christians that you think are out to get you?
I know I see many radical Muslims killing people worldwide for their god, but where are Christians massively killing people for Jesus?
Answer: They’re not.
The violence you speak of is happening in Democrat-held cities (like Chicago or Detroit) where guns are outlawed, identity politics are the norm and people like you tend to look the other way when a gay male is being shot by a Muslim, or excuse it by saying “but-but-but white privilege and all.”
People like you make me glad to own a firearm. Period. Go seek some medical help, or maybe you’re just too stupid and that’s your problem.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — June 13, 2016 @ 10:18 am - June 13, 2016
It works will in many states. (see the crime rate in bars in VA after guns were allowed)
Almost every liberal person who has posted a comment on the local paper in my area. The leaders of several gay organizations in my state have all blamed the religious right for “creating an atmosphere of hate”.
You completely ignore the deterrent effect. You would be hard pressed to find a mass shooting at a location (school, public place) that has a decal that reads, “We proudly allow our patrons to responsibly carry firearms.”
Some schools are now posting signs that trained employees may or may not have guns on the premises. You can bet your bottom dollar those schools will not experience any gun violence.
The church where another horrific act of violence took place in SC has removed the Gun Free Zone sign. The new pastor proudly proclaimed the congregation has two new members : Smith & Wesson. Can I get an, “Amen”?
After that act of violence, the left grouped all southern white rednecks together. Remember that?
Comment by TnnsNe1 — June 13, 2016 @ 10:26 am - June 13, 2016
I don’t think this.
You aren’t making any sense.
Good for you. Try it on yourself. Or …
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 10:29 am - June 13, 2016
I don’t oppose this.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 10:44 am - June 13, 2016
Personally, I’m glad to see Vince is for allowing people to carry into bars and opposes ‘no gun zones’. It means there’s hope for him yet.
Then he goes and lies about not thinking Christians are out to get him, and I lose hope again.
Comment by The Livewire — June 13, 2016 @ 10:46 am - June 13, 2016
Good lawd. I support a businesses’ right to not bake a gay wedding cake. I don’t f*cking care! People can be anti-gay marriage. I don’t care about that either. I. Just. Don’t. Give. A. Sh!t. Anymore. The left is myopic. It concerns me more about gays being executed because of archaic laws then some f*cking cake.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 10:51 am - June 13, 2016
“I don’t oppose this.” yes you do…“So, this talk of arming the citizens is cute and all.”
Comment by TnnsNe1 — June 13, 2016 @ 10:56 am - June 13, 2016
In one instance, it was the context of a school employee being trained. In the other context, it was a private citizen.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 11:00 am - June 13, 2016
Cinesnatch, you must be on crack or just plain stupid. If Florida hadn’t made every bar a “Safe Space” by making them “Gun Free Zones”, this guy won’t have lasted so long, or done so much damage. Period.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — June 13, 2016 @ 11:04 am - June 13, 2016
No, you’re right, Peter. More guns are the answer.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 11:11 am - June 13, 2016
@27… I would venture that the shooter never would have gone into the bar if there was any indication there would be armed patrons. These shooters are cowards which is why they strike soft targets.
“In one instance, it was the context of a school employee being trained. In the other context, it was a private citizen.” Nice walk back…
So, a highly trained private citizen should be able to carry a concealed weapon in a school? Bar? I know some private citizens who are excellent shots.
The anti gunners want training, training and more training for gun owners. The Sandy Hook shooter was very well trained. The final report stated his NRA training made him much more effective in his task.
Comment by TnnsNe1 — June 13, 2016 @ 11:53 am - June 13, 2016
What the f**k else did you expect? Really guys, enjoy the decline.America is done!!
Comment by Anon — June 13, 2016 @ 11:54 am - June 13, 2016
“More guns are the answer.” Thank you some sanity in your conversation. Look at the over all stats of violence since the 1960’s and look at the number of guns in the US. It is only during the Obama administration that we see a slight upswing in violence. Why is that? Perhaps police have taken a stance of non-intervention while a crime is being committed. Let it play out… and let the detectives sort it out later. BLM wins…. citizens lose.
Comment by TnnsNe1 — June 13, 2016 @ 11:56 am - June 13, 2016
Um, no. I quoted “trained employee” and purpose and made a specific comment about arming citizens.
Huh? Maybe I should be more clear: I see a difference between a a trained employee and an armed citizen. You apparently still hung up on thinking I was contradicting myself, which I was not.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 12:08 pm - June 13, 2016
Well, we’re discussing mass shootings, specifically, right? Because one major one just happened. They’ve been steadily on the rise the last 30 years without any certain regard to particular presidencies.
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 12:12 pm - June 13, 2016
Florida Law Enforcement gave the Muslim Democrat terrorist a license to work as an armed security guard despite a history of domestic violence and erratic behavior.
How????? With a history of domestic violence, federal law prohibits him from possessing a gun. ( People who are convicted of a felony or domestic violence misdemeanors are prohibited from possessing firearms. )
Comment by Larry Dunn — June 13, 2016 @ 1:40 pm - June 13, 2016
In a popular, crowded gay nightclub there statistically should have been at-least one off-duty cop or law-enforcement officer– whose gun was lawfully locked in his vehicle due to Florida’s
come and murder us-all, we’re defenseless by government fiat“Gun-free Zone” bar law.Frankly I’ll take my chances being caught in the crossfire of armed resistance — to being butchered like sheep at the hands of a Jihadi as those poor bastards in the Paris nightclub were, or there in Orlando. The Jihadi was at-large in the Pulse nightclub for THREE hours before the Orlando police stormed the club.
Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — June 13, 2016 @ 2:27 pm - June 13, 2016
“They’ve been steadily on the rise the last 30 years without any certain regard to particular presidencies”
Nope.. Wrong again. The definition of a mass shooting changed to make it appear that mass shootings have increased. The new definition includes self defense uses and if the shooter gets killed.
Comment by tnnsne1 — June 13, 2016 @ 2:34 pm - June 13, 2016
Two gang-bangers light-up a street in the middle of the night, it gets counted as murdered children as long as they were 25 or younger…
They even count service-members killed overseas in-combat as “children murdered”.
Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — June 13, 2016 @ 3:22 pm - June 13, 2016
The graph posted in the Canadian journo thread wasn’t lumping everything into one category:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck1E5kDUYAAQGAQ.jpg:large
Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — June 13, 2016 @ 3:41 pm - June 13, 2016
And when even former Rep. and gay pimp Bawney Fwank starts to echo conservatives, then you know that Cinesnatch is on the wrong side of an issue: http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/06/former_massachusetts_rep_barne.html
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — June 13, 2016 @ 4:53 pm - June 13, 2016
“According to the Congressional Research Service, there are roughly twice as many guns per capita in the United States as there were in 1968: more than 300 million guns in all.”
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/05/462017461/guns-in-america-by-the-numbers
News Flash: 299 million legally owned firearms killed no Gays yesterday.
Comment by Splinter — June 13, 2016 @ 8:40 pm - June 13, 2016
+1000
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — June 13, 2016 @ 9:09 pm - June 13, 2016
From POLITICO Magazine:
The Group That Wants To Arm Gay America
http://politi.co/1XmjVIy
Comment by RSG — June 14, 2016 @ 3:08 am - June 14, 2016