Drinking game: drink a shot each time Obama uses a first person pronoun during a speech. You will pass out on the floor before it’s over.
He referred to himself 119 times in a speech that was supposed to be about Hillary Clinton.
In the Dallas memorial service, Bush referred to himself once, in his second sentence. Obama referred to himself three times in his first sentence.
It must take a certain amount of conceit and chutzpah to run for the office in the first place. But Barry wants to be the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral.
Stevesays
Fake Unity. Seats reserved for $50 a night actors, white noise machines set up in Bernie areas, most seats empty https://vid.me/4tYB
Matthew The Oilmansays
Move the ship out of the asteroid field, The Empress is about to speak.
Ted B. (Charging Rhino)says
Listening to the Democrats was very convincing — unless you actually read a real newspaper like the WSJ, use the Internet for other than porn, or look out your own-window at America. Gods-forbid that you actually venture-forth from your Parents’ basement…
CrayCrayPatriotsays
As far as these things go, Hillary’s speech went much better than I expected.
RSGsays
As far as these things go, Hillary’s speech went much better than I expected.
Your expectations were low, I’m guessing? The worst part for me was that she still hasn’t overcome her traditional speaking style—that grating, I’m-your-mother-in-law-and-you’d-better-listen cadence that really only convinces pets to tune in. I had to tune out after a few minutes.
Though I thought it funny that some of her lines about Trump could equally apply to herself. And that she effectively told her son-in-law she’d be raising his taxes, presumably twice (once for being a high income earner, and again for being one of those nasty Wall Streeters she loathes so much, but not enough to stop cashing their checks).
TnnsNe1says
It was so good, Bill fell asleep during the speech.
CrayCrayPatriotsays
The worst part for me was that she still hasn’t overcome her traditional speaking style—that grating, I’m-your-mother-in-law-and-you’d-better-listen cadence that really only convinces pets to tune in. I had to tune out after a few minutes.
Well, we heard two different speeches then. Because, she overcame it, from what I heard. She started slow, and then really got going. It was the best speech she has ever delivered.
Peter Hughessays
And as usual, al-Cray-da is sucking up to Missus LeGree at the Dhimmicrat plantation. SMH…
Regards,
Peter H.
TnnsNe1says
“It was the best speech she has ever delivered.”
When my older brother came home with a 71 in physics and my father grounded him, he said to my dad, “But last term is was a 56”. If you start with a low “F”, a solid “F” look pretty good but it certainly isn’t an “A”.
Cray is of the crowd that Mrs. Clinton could have killed a bag of newborn kittens with a golf club instead of giving a speech and the comments would be “Wow, she has a pretty good gold swing”, because, vagina..
CrayCrayPatriotsays
Khizr Khan’s speech … damn. Just watched it. Quite moving.
RSGsays
Well, we heard two different speeches then.
Perhaps. Brit Hume, for one, apparently saw the same speech I did:
Yes, the criticism’s of “Shrillary’s” voice have plagued her for as long as I can remember. And, no doubt, when her oratory style is always compared to that of Obama’s and her husband’s, it only heightens her weaknesses in speaking to large crowds of people. She has never had, nor will ever have that vocal charisma (which not every politician needs to be successful).
The beginning of her speech was no different. But, there was a point, where she started to get the ball rolling, and she was able to reach outside of her normal limitations as a speaker. At least, I thought so anyway.
RSGsays
She does have her moments. But in the same way Donald Trump can’t miss an opportunity to publicly deride someone who irritates him, she also can’t maintain an even keel of positive communication style, even after being coached (as she was rumored to have been this past spring).
Being a lifelong student of psychology, my own private parlor game is to wonder why that is. Is she incapable of accepting direction, much as the mediocre actor who thinks he knows how to play every role perfectly? Or does she think that her current style actually works because she receives applause (reward) for doing so? Or is it simply that she is the Queen and whatever she says and however she says it shall have its own intrinsic value and should not be questioned?
Oh, and now we’re being told that to even mention her as being “shrill” is totes sexist. (Which of course automatically shuts down any criticism of her speaking style, intentionally or not.)
CrayCrayPatriotsays
I don’t believe it’s automatically sexist to criticise her speaking style. However, as a society, after being conditioned to look to men for leadership, and being exposed to various speaking styles from males over centuries, I do think there’s a subconscious resistance to being open to a variety of speaking styles in women who assume leadership roles. So, while the criticisms aren’t automatically sexist, I’m not so sure there isn’t a thin strain underlying there.
What I find interesting is the comparison to her coming across as a schoolteacher. If you think about, for quite a while over history, a schoolteacher was the closest a person would come (in general) to being exposed to a female figure of authority (outside the home).
As far as her reticence to improving her speaking style, I’m not sure what lies at the root. I would wager it’s your latter suggestion (Queen).
Ted B. (Charging Rhino)says
But in the same way Donald Trump can’t miss an opportunity to publicly deride someone who irritates him.
Where’s the person on the Trump-2016 campaign staff in-charge-of the cattle prod? Letting The Donald attack Ghazala and Khizr Khan, the parents of US Army Capt. Humayun Khan, has got to be one of the most face-palmingly-stupid decisions made this election cycle. Just respectfully-deflect and move-along, don’t double-down on the lame and disingenuous one-upsmanship. It’s just indefensible, …and in front of George F*cking Stuffingenvelopes with cameras rolling??
“Better to be thought a fool, than to speak and prove it” needs to be a Trump campaign staff mantra.
RSGsays
…and in front of George F*cking Stuffingenvelopes […]
…a former Clinton operative and known Clinton supporter, no less.
Drinking game: drink a shot each time Obama uses a first person pronoun during a speech. You will pass out on the floor before it’s over.
He referred to himself 119 times in a speech that was supposed to be about Hillary Clinton.
In the Dallas memorial service, Bush referred to himself once, in his second sentence. Obama referred to himself three times in his first sentence.
It must take a certain amount of conceit and chutzpah to run for the office in the first place. But Barry wants to be the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral.
Fake Unity. Seats reserved for $50 a night actors, white noise machines set up in Bernie areas, most seats empty https://vid.me/4tYB
Move the ship out of the asteroid field, The Empress is about to speak.
Listening to the Democrats was very convincing — unless you actually read a real newspaper like the WSJ, use the Internet for other than porn, or look out your own-window at America. Gods-forbid that you actually venture-forth from your Parents’ basement…
As far as these things go, Hillary’s speech went much better than I expected.
Your expectations were low, I’m guessing? The worst part for me was that she still hasn’t overcome her traditional speaking style—that grating, I’m-your-mother-in-law-and-you’d-better-listen cadence that really only convinces pets to tune in. I had to tune out after a few minutes.
Though I thought it funny that some of her lines about Trump could equally apply to herself. And that she effectively told her son-in-law she’d be raising his taxes, presumably twice (once for being a high income earner, and again for being one of those nasty Wall Streeters she loathes so much, but not enough to stop cashing their checks).
It was so good, Bill fell asleep during the speech.
Well, we heard two different speeches then. Because, she overcame it, from what I heard. She started slow, and then really got going. It was the best speech she has ever delivered.
And as usual, al-Cray-da is sucking up to Missus LeGree at the Dhimmicrat plantation. SMH…
Regards,
Peter H.
“It was the best speech she has ever delivered.”
When my older brother came home with a 71 in physics and my father grounded him, he said to my dad, “But last term is was a 56”. If you start with a low “F”, a solid “F” look pretty good but it certainly isn’t an “A”.
Cray is of the crowd that Mrs. Clinton could have killed a bag of newborn kittens with a golf club instead of giving a speech and the comments would be “Wow, she has a pretty good gold swing”, because, vagina..
Khizr Khan’s speech … damn. Just watched it. Quite moving.
Perhaps. Brit Hume, for one, apparently saw the same speech I did:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-brit-hume-a-lot-of-people-will-find-clintons-sharp-lecturing-tone-off-putting/
Yes, the criticism’s of “Shrillary’s” voice have plagued her for as long as I can remember. And, no doubt, when her oratory style is always compared to that of Obama’s and her husband’s, it only heightens her weaknesses in speaking to large crowds of people. She has never had, nor will ever have that vocal charisma (which not every politician needs to be successful).
The beginning of her speech was no different. But, there was a point, where she started to get the ball rolling, and she was able to reach outside of her normal limitations as a speaker. At least, I thought so anyway.
She does have her moments. But in the same way Donald Trump can’t miss an opportunity to publicly deride someone who irritates him, she also can’t maintain an even keel of positive communication style, even after being coached (as she was rumored to have been this past spring).
Being a lifelong student of psychology, my own private parlor game is to wonder why that is. Is she incapable of accepting direction, much as the mediocre actor who thinks he knows how to play every role perfectly? Or does she think that her current style actually works because she receives applause (reward) for doing so? Or is it simply that she is the Queen and whatever she says and however she says it shall have its own intrinsic value and should not be questioned?
Oh, and now we’re being told that to even mention her as being “shrill” is totes sexist. (Which of course automatically shuts down any criticism of her speaking style, intentionally or not.)
I don’t believe it’s automatically sexist to criticise her speaking style. However, as a society, after being conditioned to look to men for leadership, and being exposed to various speaking styles from males over centuries, I do think there’s a subconscious resistance to being open to a variety of speaking styles in women who assume leadership roles. So, while the criticisms aren’t automatically sexist, I’m not so sure there isn’t a thin strain underlying there.
What I find interesting is the comparison to her coming across as a schoolteacher. If you think about, for quite a while over history, a schoolteacher was the closest a person would come (in general) to being exposed to a female figure of authority (outside the home).
As far as her reticence to improving her speaking style, I’m not sure what lies at the root. I would wager it’s your latter suggestion (Queen).
Where’s the person on the Trump-2016 campaign staff in-charge-of the cattle prod? Letting The Donald attack Ghazala and Khizr Khan, the parents of US Army Capt. Humayun Khan, has got to be one of the most face-palmingly-stupid decisions made this election cycle. Just respectfully-deflect and move-along, don’t double-down on the lame and disingenuous one-upsmanship. It’s just indefensible, …and in front of George F*cking Stuffingenvelopes with cameras rolling??
“Better to be thought a fool, than to speak and prove it” needs to be a Trump campaign staff mantra.
…a former Clinton operative and known Clinton supporter, no less.
DJT is no Abraham Lincoln, that’s for sure.