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We’re All ND30 Now

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Saw this in the AOS HQ book thread this morning. This is a succinct summation of how the right has historically attempted to communicate with the left.

1. liberal: says something
2. conservative: responds
3. liberal: you’re a racist | sexist | bigot | pejorative du jour
4a. conservative: I am not a racist | sexist | bigot | pejorative du jour
4b. conservative attempts to give evidence for statement 4a.
5. liberal: not good enough
6. Goto step 3

This recent comment illustrates the point perfectly.

But if the eight years of the Obama Administration taught us anything, it was this: The left (liberals, progressives, whatever) have no interest in being reasoned with or sharing a dialogue. The left is about two things: 1. Acquiring power. 2. Using power to punish people they don’t like. The Obama Administration eagerly grabbed executive power wherever it could. Sometimes this power was used directly against political opponents — like oil and coal companies, or Gibson Guitars, or Tea Party groups. Other times, it filtered down to the front lines of the culture wars, and was used to punish Christians who didn’t want to participate or support gay marriage, or college men falsely accused of rape, or small towns in the midwest who suddenly found themselves swamped with “refugees” and illegal immigrants.

Now that we on the right have learned that the left has no interest in real dialogue, this is how conversations take place in the Trump Era.

1. conservative: says something
2. liberal: you’re a racist | sexist | bigot | pejorative du jour
3. conservative: fcuk you.

I wish it weren’t like this, but what’s the point in trying to be reasonable with people who are just going to write you off as a racist | sexist | bigot | pejorative du jour anyway?

Comments

  2. Ding!

    I follow Chris Arnade on Twitter. He’s a former Wall Street type that writes on “flyover” America for the Guardian. Some of his stuff is pretty good.

    Anyway, yesterday he tweeted out some pics of a Muslim woman and her cherubs (and other fulsome pics) as evidence that Muslims are good people (and, no doubt, a fair number are good people).

    So I made the mistake of tweeting out “Nice looking people. What about pics from Boston Marathon, Orlando, San Bernardino, etc? Don’t we need to sort good from bad?”

    I got scads of responses, mostly about stirring up hate. Some people threw up Adam Lanza, Dylan Roof, etc. Responding that Lanza and Roof were native citizens and there was no need to import more murderous loons was pointless. I only bothered to respond to a couple before deciding (as I mentioned in my response to little-letter-mike) that it was pointless.

    Lefties will take **ANY** side in an argument against the “normals”. That’s how lefties can hate Israel, be openly anti-semitic at university and call us Nazis and anti-semites at the same time. That’s how lefties can claim to champion the poor while promoting ruinous immigration and economic policy at the same time.

    Orwell called it “doublethink”: the ability to hold contradictory opinions/beliefs at the same time. I can’t pull that off.

    ‘Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.’ – George Carlin

  7. “To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” — Thomas Paine

  8. I usually go for the –

    That is very brazen of you spewing false accusations when the bigot.racist.sexist in the room is you. Are you trying to divert attention away from your b.r.s behavior or is it that you feel you are privileged enough that it doesn’t matter that you are a bigot?

    Usually at that point they are frothing at the mouth or if it is twitter they block me. Liberals want to believe they are better than everyone else thus the faux virtue signaling, false name calling, and public grandstanding. I think it is a way to bolster their poor self esteem. So the best way to deal with them is to let them know they are lower than dog poop on a shoe and that you are aware of it and point it out with examples.

  12. Go screw yourself, CrayCray, you communist swine. You and your ideological brethren were responsible for the greatest amount of human suffering in the 20th century, and you think you can shame us into going along with your scheme to drag the world down into the mire of neo-feudalism that your revolutions inevitably lead to? A bunch of dead Ukrainians and I have something to say about that: Smert’ komunistam!

  13. I replace the current number three with pasting the reply: “you’re a racist, you’re a racist, you’re a racist, you’re a racist, you’re a racist, you’re a racist, you’re a racist, you’re a racist, “. It’s demonstrative & shuts them up. Liberals need object lessons. It’s related to immediate gratification. No thought required.

  15. I’ve noticed something lately that even those who identify as liberals or just luke warm left wingers are now getting sick of the progressives, esp the crazies. Some people who come to mind, Bill Mahr and two notable you tube guys, Sargon of Akkad and Thunderf00t and there’s plenty of others too.

  16. At #2, KCRob wrote: Lefties will take **ANY** side in an argument against the “normals”. That’s how lefties can hate Israel, be openly anti-semitic at university and call us Nazis and anti-semites at the same time. [snip] Orwell called it “doublethink”: the ability to hold contradictory opinions/beliefs at the same time. I can’t pull that off.

    In Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll wrote: “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

    In the original post, V the K wrote: The left is about two things: 1. Acquiring power. 2. Using power to punish people they don’t like.

    P.S. KCRob, I know you know this. I just wanted to say it.

  18. I”m having an issue with lefty friends/clients who see fake news on their fake lefty websites and then regurgitate it to me (I’m a personal trainer so this happens multiple times every day) and I have no idea where they got the info and if it’s fake news or if its real. By the time I discover the truth (later that evening) and see them again days later
    they’ve moved on to another topic.

  19. Eddie, #19, I wouldn’t bother with looking up information or news referred to by Liberals. The MSM is a waste of time & is one of two types of purveyors of FakeNews. The other being sites & sources that specialize in actual misinformation. The Liberal-biased media has their own twisted perspective & anti-GOP/Conservative/Libertarian agenda. Stick to media that originates anywhere on the Right, whose audience is those on the Right. Bookmark, frequent conservative bloggers, look at their blogrolls (links), make note of any links to news sites that their posts refer to when proving a point in favor of the Right. I only scan headlines on the Leftist sites to see what they’re doing. You don’t have to do the same.

    Enjoy the company of any Leftists that you cater to or friend. I wouldn’t bother with lengthy conversations with a Liberal. Just smile & realize that you’re not a liberal & anything they have to say really doesn’t matter.

  20. Eddie #19. These lib clients are paying you for your time? Yes, then just smile and kill them with kindness. Your taking their greenbacks. The ones who are really obnoxious set higher fitness goals an whip an spur them hard toward it with a smile. You will both be winners.

  21. Lolzzzzz
    ” The left (liberals, progressives, whatever) have no interest in being reasoned with or sharing a dialogue. The left is about two things: 1. Acquiring power. 2. Using power to punish people they don’t like. ”

    Doesn’t that sound good? You must have given yourself a smug pat on the ol’ back after that. Unfortunately there is no truth to it. Just a bit of typical emotional projection from V who is now whining because people are calling conservatives out for being what they are

    Look. Conservatives have a problem. You have hate filled white nationalists cheering your cause:
    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/26/richard-spencer-says-trumps-a-member-of-the-alt-right-whether/21663056/

    Hell according to Ben Shapiro you have white nationalists in the cabinet
    http://www.dailywire.com/news/8441/i-know-trumps-new-campaign-chairman-steve-bannon-ben-shapiro

    But you dont do anything about it. Instead you sit around and whine like a bunch of jr high delta males because some libs call out white nationalism for what it is.

    Dont like being called a white natiinalist naizi piece of shit? Then do 2 things: 1: Demand the current conservative prez remove the anti semitic nazis from his gov. 2: When posters on conservative sites reference hate sites or racist ideology CALL THEM OUT

    You might be amazed to see that folks stop calling you a nazi when you stop associating with nazi causes

  23. V are you looking for my approval?

    If so then no you have to do a lot more, for example you would need to start using logic in your posts instead of emotional projection.
    So no you have it wrong.