Terrorists are people who:
- won’t fight as part of a regular military; and who
- mainly attack others who are not part of a regular military (that is, civilians); in order to
- intimidate people into accepting (or not dissenting from) the terrorists’ political viewpoint.
Guess what? That’s Antifa.
Antifa is also a conspiracy to commit crimes. As one of our fine commentors recently suggested, they may be compared to other criminal conspiracies. Here’s my take.
- On the one hand, Antifa “only” plans crimes of felony assault and vandalism (that could get out of hand and become manslaughter or murder, semi-accidentally). In that way, they’re a bit less dangerous than the Mafia (which plans specific murders).
- On the other hand, many of the Mafia’s crimes are intra-Mafia. Not so with Antifa, ALL of whose crimes are directed at the larger society. In that way, they’re more dangerous than the Mafia.
Where is the FBI, on Antifa? Or the Department of Justice?
Where the OUGHT to be is this:
Record official statements from their organization, inciting to riot.
When riot occurs, arrest rioters and do a manhunt for their organizational heads on “inciting to riot” charges.
That’s what should happen.
Yup – I’d like to see DOJ investigate the city of Berkeley and Univ. of California, for starters.
The cops made a point of not protecting peaceful protestors and provided “photo-op” arrests for the Antifa crowd.
If nothing else, there were blatant civil rights violations.
For instance:
Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 – Conspiracy Against Rights
This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).
It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.
Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to ten years, or both; and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years, or for life, or may be sentenced to death.
https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/federal-civil-rights-statutes
I’d pay real money to see that jerk-mayor of Berkeley led off in handcuffs to do prison time (and the police chief and a few coppers).
I think the Mafia would be more than happy to bump off one of these Antifa thugs.
‘Antifa’ should be called ‘Actualfa.’
Seems like the last time people in hoods and masks were running around committing violence and intimidating people from participating in politics, the FBI did something about it.
The Pro-Free Speech rally today at Berkeley went off really well today.
So, now UC-Berkeley is claiming they totally support free speech and it’s a Nazi Republican conspiracy to make them look bad to suggest otherwise. The Mayor of Berkeley dittos that and says also conservatives hate him because he’s not white.
It would be really easy for UC-Berkeley to prove they aren’t hostile to conservative speech by … for PR purposes obviously… inviting some anodyne, inoffensive figure whose just to the right of center… Hugh Hewitt, or George Will … to give a speech. But they know the stunt would blow up in their faces because the violent protesters will protest anyone whose speech doesn’t thread the needle of political correctness. Violence would happen anyway, and it would prove the point.
The violent progressive left (Antifa) doesn’t just control UC-Berkeley to the city of Berkeley, it controls the whole of the Democrat party.
The purpose of the Mafia was to make money. The Antifa costs George Soros money. What is end purpose? Is it to provoke a violent counter strike?
“The Pro-Free Speech rally today at Berkeley went off really well today.”
Only because a massive protective force was needed to keep your violent leftist friends in check.
Still waiting for CCP to produce a list of riots started by the right.
@ Matthew the Oilman: The endgame is collapse of Western Civilization as we know it so that George Soros can rule over the ashes and remake it in his image, make himself our God-Emperor. That’s not even hyperbole, he has stated that he is so powerful, he is effectively a god in interviews.
To use a pop culture comparison, Soros is Littlefinger from Game of Thrones.
‘Where is the FBI, on Antifa? Or the Department of Justice?’ Better yet, where is the vaunted SPLC?
Coincidentally, breitbart today had an update on the Justice Dept: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/27/new-sheriff-town-first-100-days-sessions-doj/
Basically, AG Sessions has only one deputy in place – thanks to Congressional Democrats dragging their feet, no doubt – and has been focusing on immigration. Over the coming weeks, he should get more appointees.
So the answer to “Where is the Justice Dept?” is, “Just waking up from their Obama-coma.” Things hopefully get better in a few months.
I found this aside interesting:
I’m still waiting for you to stop misinterpreting my comments to suit your delusions, but I’m not going to hold my breath.
So CCP just admitted the left is the purveyor of violence not the right. You can tell CCP is an avid leftist, when confronted with their lie, CCP stomped their feet, and screamed out insults just like a 4 year old.
Anti-factists.
Dis-honesters.
Utop-dopes.
Neo-stalinists.
Nazi-Gen2.0ees.
Let’s use our own neologisms to describe these Contra-Troopers.
@ tnnsne1: To CCP’s credit, he agreed with me a couple posts back that, if things get nasty, it will be because of something Antifa does, not the alt-Right. So he’s not denying that it’s the Left’s crazies who are the main problem.
Sean..CCP never ever condemns the violent leftists without mentioning those on the right.
Free Speech Rally? You mean that victory dance Berkeley held after successfully using violence to stop Ann Coulter and Milo from expressing their viewpoints in their town?
To call such a thing a Free Speech Rally is positively Orwellian.
TnnsNe1: Where “mentioning” equals “pretending they are just as belligerent and numerous when anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see the violent left — or at least, the anti-right — are far more belligerent and numerous, as well as deliberately protected by law enforcement in many major cities.”
Thanks, Sean. You read my words for what they were. Unlike some others. But, I’ve lost energy to even bother with them.
That’s what it was being called by demonstrators on the right on the Live Feed I was watching.
“But, I’ve lost energy to even bother with them.”, says the resident 4 year old.
Still no list proving your statement that the violence of the right is on par with the violence of the left.
From the violent street thugs to Academia, to the mayor of Berkeley, to the leadership of the DNC, to the editorial pages of the NY Times there is a consensus. “The Government ought to silence certain voices and opinions (“hate speech”) and amplify the voices and opinions of selected others (‘marginalized communities’). Left-wing activists will decide which is which.”
“That’s what it was being called by demonstrators on the right on the Live Feed I was watching.”
Therefore, that has to be the opinion of EVERYONE on the right.
Antifa is a leftist organization that believes free speech should be countered by violence. You are a leftist, therefore, you believe free speech should be countered by violence.
Just using your own logic.
Lacking reading comprehension skills. Having a big imagination. Telling white lies. Acting stubborn.
I think people here can judge for themselves who the resident 4-year-old is.
Just so we’re clear. I’ve supported the rights of MyLow and Coulter to say whatever it is they say (even though I don’t agree with a lot of what they say). And I condemn any violence encouraged or inflicted in their direction or on their supporters. I’ve said so multiple times in this past on here. And I’ll continue to say so. Anyone who disagrees with this premise is delusional and anti-First Amendment.
If you want continue to be a twat and twist it into something else, it’s getting super tiring, and I, for one, would like if we could please move on from this. It does nothing to further the conversation.
Unlike other commenters here, I have never accused CCP (ha) of any of these claims. But I will never accept bullshit false equivalence from anyone.
I never made any.
Okay, Maxine.
And I condemn any violence encouraged or inflicted in their direction or on their supporters.
i.e. “Of course, I don’t condone this…”
‘If you believe in a “Climate of Hate” encouraging violence from more excitable members of a political cult, then you must also believe that the left’s endless justification and excuse-making for violence — when not openly calling for it– creates a Climate of Hate on the left for visiting violence on the right.’ -Ace of Spades
“Just so we’re clear. I’ve supported the rights of MyLow and Coulter to say whatever it is they say (even though I don’t agree with a lot of what they say). ”
You talk of lack of reading comprehension… Yet, you have failed to comprehend that I ask for you to support your claim that the right is as violent as the left.
You refusal to do so leads to 2 conclusions : 1 – You lied, 2 – you support the violence of the left.
In the words of your hero’s spawn, “Words without action are.. meaningless. Words with inaction are.. just words. Words with opposite action is .. hypocrisy”.
Since you can’t/won’t produce a list of rightist riots to equal leftist riots, you confirm that you are a liar. Therefore, everything you say is a lie. Again, just applying simplistic leftist logic to your actions, words, inaction …..
” would like if we could please move on from this”
Just like a 4yo stomping their feet and leaving the room when they are caught in a lie.
“Words without action are.. meaningless. Words with inaction are.. just words. Words with opposite action is .. hypocrisy”
You’re asking me to support a claim I never made. How f*cking dumb are you?
CCP : “I think there are factions on both sides that crave some kind of physical altercation, unprovoked or otherwise.”
CCP : “They (both sides) just want to fight.”
There it is..
I can prove this statement is true for those on the left…
Can you prove it is true for those on the right?
No, you did not prove anything.
The first statement has nothing to do with committing violence. It’s about the DESIRE. And it was qualified by being a small portion.
The “they” was also about that small portion. I went on to emphasise how the true burden of the violence was at the feet of the far left.
Sean L. interpreted my words correctly. If you’re arguing that he misinterpreted what I wrote, I disagree with you. He understood exactly the point I was making.
Taking statements that are clear to reasonable people who understand English and then having to explain them to ignorant people who first language is also English but refuse to see what is in front of them will hopefully be the low light of my day.
CCP completely misses the point. You are not only morally bankrupt, you are a moron.
And, it’s pretty clear to me now that you’re just trolling. Otherwise, you’d actually refute my argument. Which you continually fail to do.
I’ll go with Sean L.’s interpretation of my words. You go with yours.
CCP can’t back up the original statement so CCP resorts to insults and bullying. Yup. The is a violent leftist.