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Cernovich on the intel leaks

This refers to Monday’s drama where The Washington Post alleged that President Trump had inappropriately leaked intelligence to the Russians.

First, why should anyone care what Mike Cernovich thinks? Because lately, he’s been breaking stories. He seems to have sources. His claims are outlandish; and then they turn out to be on the right track (though not 100% on all details).

So, here he is on the WaPo story. It’s a long video. Listening at 1.5x speed helps. Or I can just tell you his key points. Disclaimer – take this as his opinion and speculation. I’m interested mainly to see if it’s going to come true again?

  • Whoever leaked the story to WaPo, leaked way more classified information than Trump did.
  • At most, Trump revealed a location where some intelligence had happened. But WaPo was given far more detailed classified information, by its source(s).
  • As such, the leaks to WaPo were highly illegal, and have done far more damage to American security.
    • Because WaPo computers/networks can be hacked (and probably are).
  • White House and NSC staff have been on lockdown while they figure out who is the leaker. Cernovich’s top candidates:
    1. David Laufman, chief of counter-intelligence at the FBI. Obama donor. Was in charge of investigating Hillary’s emails; i.e., helped whitewash her. Has been involved in previous leaks. Fits the profile of someone who was not present at the meeting with Russians, but who nonetheless saw the meeting notes and all kinds of other classified info.
    2. NSA McMaster. Has a troubled relationship with Trump; potential motive would be to create a disaster, then be the hero who gets Trump out of it.
    3. Kris Bauman, a pro-Hamas / anti-Israel hire of McMaster’s; potential motive would be to disrupt the U.S. relationship with Israel.
  • One way or another, people will be going to prison over this episode.

As to Seth Rich: Per Cernovich,

  • Rich was the DNC leaker. (again Mike’s opinion/speculation – although I agree)
  • He was one of that rare breed: a Democrat staffer who was an American patriot. He was outraged by the Democrats’ rigged primary.
  • The Rich family spokesperson who denies all this (Bauman) is a political consultant paid by the DNC (not the Rich family).
  • When the DNC reported the hacking, FBI agents asked to look at the hacked servers – and the DNC refused. DNC hired CrowdStrike to concoct the narrative that DNC wanted (Russia hacking).

I do recall that former FBI Director Comey has been a strong supporter of CrowdStrike and their report; for example in his testimony before Congress. It is remarkable how many different actions of Comey’s over the years have helped Democrats and/or Clintons.



  1. You know what I don’t understand? How is it that these government barnacles remain attached to the bureaucracy, free to leak and interfere without fear of discipline?

    If I were to leak my employer’s proprietary algorithms and source code, I’d be canned and then sued into ruination. As my niche is a relatively small world, word would leak and I’d never work in this town again. In DC, being a duplicitous scumbag is a resume enhancer.

    The counter help at the nearby McDonald’s are subject to more accountability than these self-aggrandizing traitors.

    (Actually, I do understand: good enough for government work.)

    I’ve been following politics since childhood (I volunteered for the Nixon campaign in ’68 at age 11). I cannot remember a more unsettling time. We’re entering uncharted territory where the Dems and the media are actively conspiring to make the country ungovernable (and we’ve been close to that for a while).

    The recent dust-up about Trump’s talk with the Russian FM is an example: aside from the part that POTUS can declassify whatever he wants, the story is based on unsourced leaks and innuendo. If there was wrong-doing then let the leaker come forward and tell us what happened. I’d be far more likely to believe a story from someone willing to put his/her name on it.

    The nation is teetering on the edge economically, militarily, and culturally and the Dems are working overtime to push us over the edge (with the help of some “Republicans”). Once that happens, they will then start fixing the blame on everyone but themselves.

    As they say, you have to break some eggs to make an omelette. For the left, you have to break some people to make a crap sandwich.

    Comment by KCRob — May 17, 2017 @ 5:07 pm - May 17, 2017

  2. How is it that these government barnacles remain attached to the bureaucracy, free to leak and interfere without fear of discipline?

    It’s the proverbial Swamp.

    Either you’re in, or you’re out. You play ball, or you don’t. If you do, the other barnacles look out for you. And if you don’t, the other barnacles plant stories to destroy you. We’re watching it, in real time.

    If I were to leak…

    But you’re not “in”. (sorry 😉 and neither am I) – Rules are for us, the little people. Not for the rulers.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 17, 2017 @ 5:12 pm - May 17, 2017

  3. two things:
    1) who the hell convinced trump to keep all these Obama people in their positions? my guess would be the rnc.
    2) how many people were in the room to hear what trump said, there can’t be very many, how hard would it be to find out who the leaker is? if not get rid of them all. when is trump going to realize that he doesn’t have a friend in either party, he can’t trust any of these people.

    Comment by salg — May 17, 2017 @ 5:33 pm - May 17, 2017

  4. 1) From day 1, the Senate has been very slow to approve Trump’s appointees. And the FBI has been slow to approve security clearances. In other words, the Obama holdovers are barnacles (see comments 1 and 2) who have worked together to stay in power and destroy the outsider (Trump).

    2) The leaker is probably someone who wasn’t in the room. Someone with very high-level security clearance, who sees lots of classified stuff – and presidential meeting notes. Someone at least halfway-clever about covering their tracks.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 17, 2017 @ 5:47 pm - May 17, 2017

  5. When I heard that the stock market dropped heavily today, and that it was on account of the doubts about all the [contrived and concocted] Trump scandals, my thought was, “By pushing all this Russia and Comey nonsense, the media and the Democrats are ruining the U.S. economy just to score political points against Trump. And they don’t care.”

    Comment by Conservative guy — May 17, 2017 @ 6:00 pm - May 17, 2017

  6. The point concerning the protection of national security issues that comes into the hands of the Washington Post (by whatever means) is interesting.

    First, the Supreme Court has ruled that when the press gets ahold of classified data, the press is covered by the First Amendment in revealing it. Justice Hugo Black’s opinion in New York Times v. United States, 1971: The press was to serve the governed, not the governors. The Government’s power to censor the press was abolished so that the press would remain forever free to censure the Government. The press was protected so that it could bare the secrets of government and inform the people. Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government.

    So The WaPo goes free, in the same way that the President can declassify anything, either intentionally or unintentionally.

    Whether the WaPo is easier to hack is moot. Once the WaPo gets the classified document, it is not their responsibility to safeguard it.

    It must be understood that the reason “leakers” send classified material to the WaPo or Wikileaks is precisely because the “press” is totally free to publish in whatever form available.

    Secondly, it is not against the rules of the House of Representatives or the Senate for members or staff to leak.

    I believe that a great deal more should be made of the DNC denying access to the FBI of their hacked servers and would only allow CrowdStrike to investigate the hacked servers and to relay information to the FBI. One can only speculate that the DNC servers might well lead to things that the DNC would not be happy to explain to the FBI. By using CrowdStrike, it was the equivalence of the DNC “lawyering up.”

    Assange all but fingered Seth Rich as the DNC leaker. The Rich family has their own interests and concerns which may or may not be colored by political interests.

    If the FBI has been politicized, it is no better than a Sanctuary City in that the rule of law is corrupted by arbitrary loyalties and ill-defined customs and practices.

    Former Comey boss and Director of the FBI, Robert Mueller has been appointed Special Council for the FBI Russia-Trump Investigation. He will replace Comey and continue what is already well under way. But he will be able to call a special grand jury.

    I believe that Mueller will put a damper on the “herding cats” aspect of this clown-car sideshow. Now, all the players will “lawyer up” out of concern for a future before a possible grand jury.

    Frankly, if Trump is correct about this whole Trump-Russia collusion investigation being a political fire hosing, Mueller will cut to the chase pretty quickly.

    In many ways, I believe that the DemonizingRats are relieved at not having to continue to carry the cat they picked up by the tail.

    Mueller, will most likely start off with intensive meetings with Congressional staff on both House and Senate investigations, get a strong understanding of where the FBI has been, and examine all of the open leads under investigation. His first instinct will be to organize and create the road map for bringing this whole stampede under control. He won’t keep at it just to find something to prosecute.

    Mueller is a bit younger than I am, but I believe that like many of us geriatrics, Mueller is not, as Bill Clintoon called it, hot to make “his bones” on a trophy conviction. It is my opinion that his “long view” is homed in on the rule of law for our posterity.

    Comment by Heliotrope — May 17, 2017 @ 7:11 pm - May 17, 2017

  7. Hahahahahahahaha
    Michael Cernovich of “pizzagate” & “Clinton has syphilis” fame?!?!?

    Holy cow. You have stopped that low????

    It’s pretty much assured that his “sources” are none other than Bannon himself & his army of Russian facebook propagandists

    Comment by mike — May 17, 2017 @ 8:17 pm - May 17, 2017

  8. Then leave 🙂 Your call. Good luck.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 17, 2017 @ 8:44 pm - May 17, 2017

  9. P.S. for others. I stated why this post happened.

    First, why should anyone care what Mike Cernovich thinks? Because lately, he’s been breaking stories… Disclaimer – take this as his opinion and speculation. I’m interested mainly to see if it’s going to come true again?

    Don’t worry, I’m used to mike not reading or understanding 😉

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 17, 2017 @ 9:11 pm - May 17, 2017

  10. ILC, it’s a wonder mikey can remember to breathe.

    Comment by Lobogris — May 17, 2017 @ 9:18 pm - May 17, 2017

  11. BTW and FTR – mike’s allegation here of Cernovich being behind the Pizzagate mess is simply false.

    I figure mike was probably doing his usual pattern of repeating some trash he picked up from other lefties, without knowing or checking anything.

    Scott Pelley [of CBS “60 minutes”]: When you heard about the guy who shot up the pizzeria?

    Mike Cernovich: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

    Scott Pelley: What did you think?

    Mike Cernovich: Well, at the time there was no evidence connecting him to [a couple of Hillary Clinton stories on their minds]. But that was a very sad thing. Very unfortunate thing.

    Scott Pelley: Uh, uh, uh no evidence connecting who to what?

    Mike Cernovich: Well, the shooter, I didn’t know anything about the shooter. But when it happened, and I heard about it and I read about it, it was a very sad thing.

    Scott Pelley: But the pizzeria was part of this child pedophile –

    Mike Cernovich: I never claimed that.

    Scott Pelley: You didn’t name this pizzeria?

    Mike Cernovich: Correct. I never –

    Scott Pelley: That, that is –

    Mike Cernovich: Never claimed that .

    Scott Pelley: That is absolutely true.

    Mike Cernovich: Correct.

    Scott Pelley: We verified that you never named it.

    Mike Cernovich: Right.

    Scott Pelley: But wasn’t this an indication of fake news getting out of control? People picking up guns to take justice into their own hands after reading stuff like you put on your website that is based on fantasy?

    Mike Cernovich: Well, first of all, we have to draw lines between what I wrote, which is an expert analysis on Hillary Clinton’s health, versus a completely different story, where I never named the pizzeria. And I never thought that the pizzeria was at the center of this. And then people, I would say that it was fake news that people would try to connect me to that pizzeria thing when I never said there was never anything going on in there. And moreover, [as a] lawyer, it would strike me a utterly bizarre if a pizzeria were running any kind of weird operation out of it. 100%. I never, I never wrote that story.

    Scott Pelley: [Shows agreement by moving on, not contradicting Cernovich]

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 19, 2017 @ 10:35 am - May 19, 2017

  12. As to whether Hillary Clinton and her crew can be connected with child molesters or child human traffickers: Cernovich has an interesting allegation, separate from other people’s pizza mess.

    I’m going to check on it or try to find references (unlike mike). *IF* it checks out, might post accordingly. For now, here is the allegation (I’ve highlighted the key bits):

    Scott Pelley: You reported in November five days before the election, quote Clinton’s inner circle includes child traffickers pedophiles, and now members of a sex cult.

    Mike Cernovich: Lauren Silsby was arrested in Haiti trying to smuggle children out of Haiti. Do you remember that story?

    Scott Pelley: For Hillary Clinton?

    Mike Cernovich: She was a friend of Hillary. Hillary intervened on her behalf, to get a reduced sentence for Lauren Silsby. And her compatriots. So

    Scott Pelley: “Clinton’s inner circle includes child traffickers pedophiles, and now members of a sex cult.” There, there, there’s no evidence of that.

    Mike Cernovich: Well, Lauren Silsby, Hillary Clinton, and her are the inner circle together. Lauren Silsby was arrested in Haiti trying to leave the country with 33 children. Lauren Silsby and her crew were. Hillary Clinton intervened personally and that, right? So that is 100% true. I don’t see Donald Trump intervening on behalf of child t-traffickers. Like Lauren Silsby. So that is true.

    It does include that inner circle. Dennis Hastert, Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein good friends. Jeffrey Epstein is a lifetime registered sex offender. He was convicted of trafficking women who are underage. Great friend of Bill Clinton. Great friend to Hillary Clinton. So that is part of her inner circle, so that is indeed a true statement.

    Scott Pelley: Wait a minute. Friends or parts are inner circles?

    Mike Cernovich: Well, y-you want to get, you want to define inner circle, or define something else?

    Scott Pelley: Well, inner circle is the term that you used.

    Mike Cernovich: Sure. Jeffrey Epstein –

    Scott Pelley: What’s this, what’s the definition?

    Mike Cernovich: If Bill Clinton is flying with Jeffrey Epstein without a secret service detail, repeatedly, then that would be inner circle.

    Scott Pelley: Hillary Clinton’s inner circle?

    Mike Cernovich: Well, Bill and Hillary. Who’s Hillary Clinton without Bill? She ran an Bill Clinton’s legacy. She didn’t have any ideas. She didn’t have anything new going on. She ran on Bill Clinton’s legacy. So if you’re going to run on your husband’s legacy and ride his coattails, then you’re going to have to be responsible for what he does.

    Dennis Hastert would be the former Speaker of the House (R), who (per Wiki) made a statement in which he admitted to pedophilic “transgressions”.

    Not to mention Anthony Weiner, who sent porn to a child – on the same laptop where he had thousands of Hillary’s classified emails.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 19, 2017 @ 10:50 am - May 19, 2017

  13. GP loves to tie Clinton to paedophiles, but not Trump. Funny that.

    Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — May 19, 2017 @ 7:20 pm - May 19, 2017

  14. Follow the evidence, CCP.

    If you think you can tie Trump to pedophiles, to the same (or similar) extent: Supply links.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 19, 2017 @ 10:37 pm - May 19, 2017

  15. He’s friends with Jeffrey Epstein, no?

    Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — May 20, 2017 @ 5:32 pm - May 20, 2017

  16. *My point was why is it damning for the Clintons to be associated with him, but not Trump?

    Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — May 20, 2017 @ 5:59 pm - May 20, 2017

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