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May 25, 2017 by Jeff (ILoveCapitalism)

Consider this an open thread to talk about anything listed here, or not listed here.

  • Eric Clanton has been arrested by Berkeley police.

    Score one for the good guys. This is the Nutty Professor who was allegedly assaulting people with bike locks on behalf of Antifa, during those riots in Berkeley.

    “His work in political philosophy also centers on mass incarceration and the prison system,” Clanton’s former faculty page read. “He is currently exploring restorative justice from an anti-authoritarian perspective.”

    I hope Prof. Clanton will be finding out a lot about mass incarceration, the prison system, restorative justice, and authority.

  • The 4th Circuit has blocked Trump’s travel suspension.

    I find this a bit of a yawner. President Trump’s orders on the suspension (sometimes called a “Muslim Ban” by our biased media) have been pretty reasonable. The opinions blocking the suspension have been mostly ridiculous. There’s nothing I can do about it except hope it goes to the Supreme Court. And SCOTUS will do whatever they’re going to do, one way or the other.

  • The Gianforte matter. Again, yawns from me. If Gianforte committed assault, let the police/justice system take care of it and let him rot in jail. That’s what the police/justice system is for. Let it work. There, I just condemned Gianforte (provided he’s guilty).
  • NYT reporting that Russian officials discussed how they might influence Trump. Again: Yawn. Does anyone think that Russian officials hadn’t spent the previous 8 years discussing how they might influence Hillary and Obama?
  • This is more interesting. The Washington Post discusses how Russians may or may not have tipped off the FBI that Obama’s AG Loretta Lynch was planning to block any prosecution of Hillary Clinton in her e-mail scandal.

    So…Hillary Clinton(‘s campaign) colluded with the Obama administration, to block investigation and/or prosecution? And Russia had spies, in the Obama administration? Or somebody fooled them with phony tips? Sorry, my head is spinning from all the Inside Baseball.

Filed Under: 2016 Presidential Election, Democratic Scandals, Free Speech, Hillary Clinton, Immigration Reform, Liberalism Run Amok, National Politics, National Security, Progressive immorality, Republican Embarrassments, Unhinged Liberals Tagged With: 2016 Presidential Election, antifa, berkeley riots, Democratic scandals, eric clanton, fbi, Free Speech, greg gianforte, Hillary Clinton, Immigration Reform, james comey, Liberalism Run Amok, loretta lynch, National Politics, National Security, Progressive immorality, Republican Embarrassments, russia, Unhinged Liberals

Comments

  1. KCRob says

    May 25, 2017 at 9:06 pm - May 25, 2017

    Trump’s travel restrictions are completely within the law – the statute is short and easily understood.

    If SCOTUS fails to uphold this, it will confirm we’re ruled by appointed people in black robes; we no longer have a means of restraining our rulers (although we’ve been seeing this for years).

    Some of these judges should be removed. The Constitution provides impeachment as a remedy for runaway judges. My chances of winning the lottery are magnitudes higher than the odds of the GOP growing a set.

  2. tnnsne1 says

    May 25, 2017 at 9:42 pm - May 25, 2017

    If the ban goes to SCOTUS will the dried up prune recuse herself?

    Will the Russians plant more false information for the WaPo to rpint as “truth”?

    How much crowd funding will the bike lock coward get from other cowards like lil letter mike?

    Will the press continue to parse every Trump phrase pushing themselves into total irrelevance?

    Will Michelle Obama erase the face off the pictures of Mrs. Trump looking stunning in almost everything she puts on?

    Will my husband convince me to sell GOOG and GOOGL because they are the enemy even though we will take a huge hit in taxes?

  3. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 25, 2017 at 9:53 pm - May 25, 2017

    After a conversation I had with a computer hacker who was hired by the RNC last year to beef up their security shortly before, I’m leaning towards the Russians having nothing to do with the leaked DNC emails.

  4. tnnsne1 says

    May 25, 2017 at 10:03 pm - May 25, 2017

    CCP.. I especially like the fact the FBI warned the DNC of hacking activity. The DNC said they couldn’t verify that the FBI actually issued the warning. The FBI and the DNC HQ are within walking distance. The DNC is simply too lazy to care. Also, Podesta, a self proclaimed internet security expert used “password” for his password. The idiots at the DNC also turned off the phishing filter on their email server. There is a reason the DNC refused the FBI access to the DNC email server.

  5. Sathar says

    May 26, 2017 at 12:35 am - May 26, 2017

    The Gianforte matter. Again, yawns from me. If Gianforte committed assault, let the police/justice system take care of it and let him rot in jail. That’s what the police/justice system is for.

    AFAIK it’s a misdemeanor assault charge. Even if convicted, in a lot of places that wouldn’t even be enough to get a Democrat onto a primary ballot.

  6. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 26, 2017 at 12:39 am - May 26, 2017

    Eric Clanton has been arrested by Berkeley police.

    Thanks ILC. I’ve been waiting for updates. Finally.

  7. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 26, 2017 at 12:46 am - May 26, 2017

    I think there was a belief by some that Berkeley police would protect ANTIFA or turn the other way.

    However, my inclination is to disagree.

    Berkeley Police Captain Ed Spiller … found the video footage from the incident “shocking.”

    “We’re taking every case seriously. We’re still asking people to come forward that have information.… There’s still work to be done,” Spiller added.

  8. RSG says

    May 26, 2017 at 4:08 am - May 26, 2017

    Some of these judges should be removed. The Constitution provides impeachment as a remedy for runaway judges.

    Yeah, but that doesn’t always eliminate the problem. Ever hear of Alcee Hastings? Before he became one of South Florida’s [CD-20] Congresscritters For Life, he was a federal judge appointed by the former Worst US President in 1979, and later impeached by Congress in 1989 for bribery and perjury. So the question then becomes: Are they better off ruling on existing laws or helping to make new laws?

  9. RSG says

    May 26, 2017 at 4:38 am - May 26, 2017

    So the person San Fran Nan called a “wannabe Trump” got elected to fill the seat previously held by the current Secretary of the Interior. Not quite the squeaker The Resistance had hoped for, with 50.3% of the vote to the troubadour pothead’s 44% (and the perennial bridesmaid aka the Libertarian candidate with 5.7%). Oh well, there’s still Jon Tossoff’s [as Bruce’s Twitter feed refers to him] second chance next month in Jawja.

  10. Jonathan says

    May 26, 2017 at 5:07 am - May 26, 2017

    As far as Gianforte goes, he is facing a misdemeanor charge. Due to overcrowding, most jurisdictions settle them with a fine or probation if at all possible – since he is the newly elected (and only) state Representative, that is likely what will happen.
    I have heard the claim, so far not backed by evidence, that this reporter was particularly obnoxious and pushy, so Gianforte could possibly argue extenuating circumstances. Another possibility is some type of settlement to get the reporter to withdraw the charges. However it goes, I don’t see it as a problem – UNLESS the Gallatin County Sheriff has it in for Gianforte, in which case all bets are off.

    As far as the 4th circuit goes, this is clearly another political ruling where they refused to rule solely based on the order and insisted his campaign statements mattered more than what he wrote in the order AND they claimed it was a religious ban despite the fact that it only affects a few percent of the people following that religion globally. If it doesn’t get overturned at SCOTUS, we’re in big trouble.

  11. mike says

    May 26, 2017 at 6:37 am - May 26, 2017

    “So…Hillary Clinton(‘s campaign) colluded with the Obama administration, to block investigation and/or prosecution?”

    No the opposite. Turns out the story of collusion between Obama and Clinton was simply part of a Russian misinformation campaign to get Trump elected. And conservatives fell for it….smh

  12. V the K says

    May 26, 2017 at 9:33 am - May 26, 2017

    That awkward moment when the left’s new victim-hero, Ben Jacobs, said he wanted to punch a 16 year old boy for being a conservative.

    https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/442428951752097792

  13. Ignatius says

    May 26, 2017 at 10:14 am - May 26, 2017

    Clanton has a purdy mouth. Good thing he’s going to be putting it to good use.

  14. Craig E Smith says

    May 26, 2017 at 10:16 am - May 26, 2017

    Cray, it would had been better if the cops had tried to stop the violence at the time it was occurring.

  15. Juan says

    May 26, 2017 at 10:21 am - May 26, 2017

    And mike, the Communist UI, spouts off with yet another dissimulation.

  16. Heliotrope says

    May 26, 2017 at 11:02 am - May 26, 2017

    If Gianforte committed assault….

    I suspect he did.

    But …. A squirrel in the snotty press got up in the wrong face and he got popped. Like a weasel. Oh, the horror! The press is sacred, you know. What they say it 100% gold and what they don’t report didn’t happen. What is the world coming to?

    I kind of like a hard boiled man who crushes a cockroach every now and then. That, of course pisses off PETA and it makes the whole “safe places” crowd of bedwetters scream about civil rights and freedom of the press and social justice.

    Back in the good old days, you learned early that some types of behavior gets you smacked.

  17. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 26, 2017 at 11:07 am - May 26, 2017

    As to Gianforte: Yes, the left-wing propagandists can provoke on purpose and Jacobs might have even done a soccer-player flop to exaggerate things….but flying into an uncontrolled rage is unmanly. Unmanly. The behavior of a street person. Gianforte needs to find his own inner peace, before he tries to represent Montana.

  18. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 26, 2017 at 11:13 am - May 26, 2017

    Helio – What I don’t like on the audio (and perhaps the reason I see it differently), is the bit where Gianforte basically shout-whines.

    You know the expression, “He’s losing it” or “He’s lost it”. – What would be “it”? Composure, inner peace, self-control, rationality, moral authority. If we don’t keep those things, we’re children. Or animals. Or street people.

  19. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 26, 2017 at 11:20 am - May 26, 2017

    (continued) I’ve been around GP for years and one of my favorite little moments, believe it or not, is when a certain commenter screamed at me in ALL CAPS expletives. Just because he was an empty person and he couldn’t refute my argument.

    Gianforte handed experience that to Jacobs / The Guardian. They will be laughing about Gianforte for years to come.

    In an argument: He who keeps his reason and composure and inner sense of authority, wins.

  20. Heliotrope says

    May 26, 2017 at 12:58 pm - May 26, 2017

    ILC, the”better angels” of myself agree with you without reservation.

    I have become so jaded by the practiced and certain hypocrisy of both the DemonizingRats and the mainstream media that I take pleasure in seeing a pesky gnat get cold-cocked. Its my military side speaking out.

    One side of me says the pesky reporter got what he “asked for.” My civilized side says that Gianforte was a fool to lose it. However, when it comes to “manliness” I believe that the event was when two unmanly folks met. If the “reporter” had a set, he would have been much more gentlemanly and professional.

    Back in the late 50’s, Mike Wallace (father of Chris Wallace) was on a CBS attack journalism show and he was instrumental in developing the art of cornering people and badgering them into making fools of themselves.

    So, it appears to me the this Guardian attack putz triumphed by pushing Gianforte into the circus ring of shame. Moral relativity in action.

  21. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 26, 2017 at 2:15 pm - May 26, 2017

    two unmanly folks met

    Ah. Fair enough.

    The thing is, Gianforte has apologized (this morning’s news) and is getting praise for it; but it still doesn’t sound like he has come clean. From http://theweek.com/speedreads/701613/greg-gianforte-says-hes-not-proud-altercation-reporter

    The Guardian’s Jacobs and a Fox News crew in the room say Gianforte “body slammed” Jacobs at an event in Bozeman, resulting in his glasses being broken; he had to go to a local hospital to be checked out and have X-rays taken of his elbow. The Gianforte campaign released a statement that claimed Jacobs “aggressively” put a recorder in Gianforte’s face, then “grabbed Greg’s wrist, and spun away from Greg, pushing them both the ground,” but not long after, Fox News reporter Alicia Acuna posted her eyewitness account of the incident, which lined up with what Jacobs said and an audio recording that was released by The Guardian.

    Claiming that Jacobs “aggressively” put a recorder in Gianforte’s face, then “grabbed Greg’s wrist, and spun away from Greg, pushing them both the ground,” does not pass the smell test. Especially not when a Fox eyewitness contradicts it.

    The apology doesn’t count, if he’s (still) lying about what happened.

  22. V the K says

    May 26, 2017 at 2:26 pm - May 26, 2017

    Especially not when a Fox eyewitness contradicts it.

    The “eyewitness” has also “walked back her story.”

    http://the405media.com/2017/05/25/breaking-fox-news-eyewitness-walks-back-gianforte-neck-grab-story-montana/

  23. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 26, 2017 at 2:35 pm - May 26, 2017

    Not much of it. She’s drawing a distinction, as I read it, between pushing someone at the neck and trying to choke them. She’s making clear that Gianforte was in no way trying to choke Jacobs. But he still had his hands at Jacobs’ neck/trapezius area.

  24. rusty says

    May 26, 2017 at 2:41 pm - May 26, 2017

    WELL THAT CHANGES…absolutely nothing. Acuna still saw Gianforte grab Jacobs and body slam him, which is unacceptable behavior for anyone, let alone someone running for Congress.

    http://www.redstate.com/jimjamitis/2017/05/25/laura-ingrahams-site-peddles-fake-news-defend-candidate-accused-assault/

    Ingraham’s Twitter comments about the incident are equally dismissive, veiled zingers aimed at the attack victim rather than the hot head Republican who lost control. Rush Limbaugh was making similar comments on the radio today, only condemning the assault sarcastically while describing Gianforte as “manly” for reacting to questions with violence.

    That’s what high profile conservative media has become in the age of Trump. Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and others like them have voluntarily become little more than the Republicans’ version of MoveOn.org. Deny, deflect, dismiss anything that reflects badly on their team and conversely promote anything that does the opposite (even if it’s a debunked crackpot conspiracy theory).

    They have decided that their job is not to defend ideas anymore but to defend politicians, provided those politicians wear the right color jersey. Remember when they all said they cared about a candidate’s character and we fell for it? Good times.

    Ask yourself how the coverage of this incident from the right would have been different had Gianforte been a Democrat. Conservatives can’t complain about media double standards when conservative media is just as guilty of them. You don’t defeat fake news with more fake news.

  25. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 26, 2017 at 2:57 pm - May 26, 2017

    So… you like my comments? 🙂

    As to the conservative commentariat: I think people just aren’t thinking things through. Occasionally, we will get a bad apple and had best cut out the rot. That’s the place I’ve gone to.

    I’ve seen signs that Rush is ambivalent. Ed Morrissey at HotAir is one of the people praising Gianforte’s apology and Ed is normally awesome, I love Ed to death, but nobody bats 1000 and in this case, I don’t think Ed has quite matched everything up to Gianforte lying (still?) about what happened.

    I want to see Gianforte come really clean. If he does, I’ll sing his praises. Until then, his pattern is:
    – Shove people who bother you.
    – Shoutwhine as you do it, to justify yourself.
    – Lie about what you did.
    – Then apologize ostentatiously, like you’re a big man for apologizing, except you still haven’t yet really admitted what you did.

    Not so great.

  26. V the K says

    May 26, 2017 at 3:33 pm - May 26, 2017

    Gianforte doesn’t seem like someone I’d defend to the last, but I’m not going to let people who supported Ted Kennedy and Gerry Studds lecture me on who’s unfit to serve in Congress.

  27. rusty says

    May 26, 2017 at 3:36 pm - May 26, 2017

    I do enjoy GP and ILC I enjoy your poses and comments

  28. rusty says

    May 26, 2017 at 3:39 pm - May 26, 2017

    Posts

  29. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 26, 2017 at 3:44 pm - May 26, 2017

    V – Touche!

    That’s the thing about double standards. They confuse everybody. Someone commits a crime that’s a “7” or “10” in criminality. Their team spins and rationalizes and they get away with it. Then, logically, someone on your team should be able to commit a “2” crime and get away with it. All the sudden it looks like you could be condoning level “2” crimes. When the real problem always was, and still is, the fact that the level “7” and “10” criminals got away with it.

  30. V the K says

    May 26, 2017 at 3:56 pm - May 26, 2017

    Also, is it just me, or has this one dust-up between a Republican congressman and a reporter gotten more mass media coverage than all the violence inflicted by Antifa, the Portlandia Anti-Trump mob, the Middlebury/Berkeley/UW-Madison college Democrats, and the woman in Tennesee who tried to run a Republican congressman off the road combined?

  31. Heliotrope says

    May 26, 2017 at 4:04 pm - May 26, 2017

    Rusty, calm down.

    …veiled zingers aimed at the attack victim rather than the hot head Republican who lost control…..

    That’s what high profile conservative media has become in the age of Trump.

    A pesky reporter got body slammed by a candidate. Your own “veiled zingers” include: attack “victim” and “hot head” Republican.

    The DemonizingRats have made a cottage industry of using language like yours to report an incident. It comes fully colored with nuance that is about as subtle as those bull balls rednecks hang from their bumper hitches.

    You know what frosts you the most about Trump? He spits it back in your face as good as you give it and even better. You prance around fluttering away the vapors if anyone speaks of radical Islamists. So, Trump calls them “evil losers” and you wet yourselves worse than a flood of flop sweat.

    There is a Mt. Everest sized hole in your idea that if this had involved a DemonizingRat candidate, we conservatives would have been on the other side.

    Nope. You see, the mainstream media and the DemonizingRats are birds of feather worthy of as much sympathy and trust as Hillary Clintoon or Anthony’s weiner.

    Andrew Breitbart and Roger Ailes latched onto your Alinsky propaganda pornography and they plotted against you and dished it back at you. They forced you to own it or shut up. They are both dead, but they left a heck of a mark and now the cat is out of the bag.

    You can come here crying about mean Republicans all you want, because you DemonizingRats have a standing army of liars and haters for every Republican who pees on your tasseled Gucci loafers.

    I am not saying that turn-about is fair play. I am saying you are wusses who can give it but can’t take it.

    A Republican candidate body slammed a reporter. Simple as that. He shouldn’t have done it. And Mark Rich shouldn’t have shot himself in the back of his head. And Hillary shouldn’t have played around with a server. And all those people who used their cell phones to record the TEA Party people who spit on John Lewis and called him the “N’ word should have cashed in on the $100,000 Breitbart offered for the evidence.

    Nope. Your slime and sleaze game has come back to bite you and now you want a special counsel to lock up the people who hurt your feelings.

  32. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 26, 2017 at 4:05 pm - May 26, 2017

    Wow, I forgot to ask my own question.

    With every Deep State investigation and every Controlled Media “narrative”, you should ask: Why this one, not that other one? And why now?

  33. rusty says

    May 26, 2017 at 4:10 pm - May 26, 2017

    heliotrope

    That was http://www.redstate.com/jimjamitis/

  34. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 26, 2017 at 4:53 pm - May 26, 2017

    The apology doesn’t count

    Does the apology even count because one is apologising for getting caught.

    A recording surfaced, charges were filed, and Paul Ryan made a stink. Only then did he express regret for doing something the he got caught for.

  35. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 26, 2017 at 4:59 pm - May 26, 2017

    Agreed. Gianforte is sorry that he was caught.

  36. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 26, 2017 at 5:01 pm - May 26, 2017

    Integrity is behind someone who apologises for actions/behaviours they have thought about out of their own volition. Not because they’re trying to save face.

    There are commenters on GP who have acted in ways of street people (such as making up lies, or using free speech to say vile things) to other commenters who have not owned up to their behaviour. They do so because they speak anonymously and won’t be held accountable, which gives them license to act in such a way.

    Gianforte acted in the way he did in part because he felt entitled and didn’t believe he would be held responsible for his actions. Winning the election further established that, yes, indeed, enough voters of Montana do not expect him to change.

  37. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 26, 2017 at 5:25 pm - May 26, 2017

    Cray, it would had been better if the cops had tried to stop the violence at the time it was occurring.

    It would be better if cops did all kinds of things (like think before shooting, not letting certain cops with an established record of ill behaviour back on the beat). But, what I was discussing was that people (on the right) were convinced Clanton was NOT going to be held responsible for his action because, “Berkeley police were going to protect such actions.”

    That awkward moment when the left’s new victim-hero, Ben Jacobs, said he wanted to punch a 16 year old boy for being a conservative.

    https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/442428951752097792

    I don’t know Ben Jacobs from Adam. I don’t support such tweets from anyone. Nor committing acts of violence, whether it be from ANTIFA or someone who runs for office and shortly thereafter gets elected.

    I want to see Gianforte come really clean. If he does, I’ll sing his praises. Until then, his pattern is:
    – Shove people who bother you.
    – Shoutwhine as you do it, to justify yourself.
    – Lie about what you did.
    – Then apologize ostentatiously, like you’re a big man for apologizing, except you still haven’t yet really admitted what you did.

    Never say never, and it’s big of you to be filled with such optimism for another person. But, sing his praises? In his existing apology, did he actually ask Jacobs for forgiveness? That’s essentially the soul of an apology: that you ask for forgiveness from another person and let them decide if they accept your remorse. He didn’t even do that. It was, like you said, “Hey I got caught, here’s me trying to be a bigger person.” And it was after all those things I mentioned in the previous post about the recording, charges, and Paul Ryan calling him out (on top of it, he won the election). The guy isn’t sorry he committed an act of violence. And there is nothing suggesting in his words or the circumstances that he will come clean. And, by come, I mean genuinely ask Jacobs for forgiveness. Anything short of that would not be worth singing someone’s praises over. But, perhaps you were being loose with your language. I do that all the time, as commenters here are quite aware. Perhaps more than most everyone.

  38. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 26, 2017 at 5:33 pm - May 26, 2017

    Gianforte acted in the way he did in part because he felt entitled and didn’t believe he would be held responsible for his actions. Winning the election further established that, yes, indeed, enough voters of Montana do not expect him to change.

    This happens with all politicians. You can convincingly argue that this applies to a lot of politicians when it comes to things they say, lies, etc.

    One major difference here is that with Gianforte, there is no nuance for the layperson like myself. An act of violence is pretty straight-forward. It is what it is and there is no justification if it’s not a response to another act of physical violence. And, as one can see, some people here don’t bat an eye. It’s all the same to them.

    And maybe it is. It does feel like we’re watching one big circus. Except, we keep having to foot the bill of the tickets, and prices keep going up (probably because there is too much government involved).

  39. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 26, 2017 at 5:42 pm - May 26, 2017

    on your tasseled Gucci loafers.

    I’m not aware that Rusty owns such a thing. You might want to check the back of Gianforte’s closet, though. You just *might* find a pair.

  40. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 26, 2017 at 6:11 pm - May 26, 2017

    But, what about that hot hunk of a Navy SEAL cowboy Gianforte is replacing: Ryan Zinke …

    He has suspended citizens’ advisory councils on public input. #GoCapitalism!

  41. rusty says

    May 26, 2017 at 6:15 pm - May 26, 2017

    CCP, you are correct, never Gucci

    Kenneth Cole or Cole Haan

    Recent summer addition. White Kenneth Cole Reaction Driver size 14

    https://www.amazon.com/Kenneth-Cole-REACTION-World-Hold/dp/B001M4IZZU

  42. rusty says

    May 26, 2017 at 6:26 pm - May 26, 2017

    But with the shift to fashion

    Melania Trump’s first outing in the Sicilian sunshine was in a colorful floral applique jacket by Dolce & Gabbana that sells for $51,000, or several thousand dollars below the median U.S. income in 2015. She also carried a matching clutch to lunch with spouses of the G-7 leaders, held at the historic Elephants Palace and hosted by Catania’s mayor.

  43. CrayCrayPatriot says

    May 26, 2017 at 6:34 pm - May 26, 2017

    Grover Norquist: Congratulations to tax pledge signing Greg Gianforte who just body slammed tax hiking Democrat pol.
    Greg won the house Seat in Montana.

    that sells for $51,000

    That seems well north of Michelle’s budget.

    size 14

    Well … you know what they say … 😉

  44. rusty says

    May 26, 2017 at 7:12 pm - May 26, 2017

    Yes, I am a tall person

  45. mark says

    May 27, 2017 at 10:09 pm - May 27, 2017

    Gian’s “body slam”. Turns out the reporter has a girlfriend who pulled this same stunt on Trump’s assistant during the campaign, claiming she was shoved to the ground, then later evidence proved it was a load of horse crap. Strange her boyfriend is the reporter claiming the same, with absolutely NO evidence apparent to substantiate the same charges his girlfriend made against Trump’s assistant.
    Coincidence?

  46. ILoveCapitalism says

    May 28, 2017 at 1:07 pm - May 28, 2017

    mark: I’m open to that argument (or possibility). But then…why would (or should) Gianforte do a big apology for the cameras?

    Either he committed assault, or Jacobs did. Gianforte has “acted guilty”; which is not the behavior of a “studly, manly” person as Rush calls him. Unless Gianforte really is guilty…in which case, IMO he hasn’t gone far enough (in terms of admitting what he did).

    Also remember that Fox actually had a crew of 3 people (not just the woman we’ve seen on TV) whose accounts seem to line up with Jacobs.

  47. rusty says

    May 28, 2017 at 2:43 pm - May 28, 2017

    mark, are you referring to Michelle Fields, and her encounter

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/15/us/politics/corey-lewandowski-trump-campaign-manager.html?_r=0

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