Jim Comey claims he can read Trump’s mind, and that when Trump said “I hope we can put this episode behind us,” he was obstructing an investigation (which, in accordance with 18 USC would have required him to immediately report his suspicions to the Attorney General; not to leak them several weeks later to the media through “a friend” but anyway) but he couldn’t discern any suspicious behavior in Hillary deleting 30,000 emails during an investigation, wiping a serve with BleachBit, and physically smashing Blackberry devices with a hammer. Nope, nothing suspicious there.
On a semi-related note, how many of you guys have ever actually seen Vladimir Putin in action? In this video, he deftly parries a hapless, in-over-her-head MeAgain Kelly as he effortlessly deflects her accusations of interference with the American election, and then schools her on world affairs while she can only pout and make Serious Journalist Faces. He runs rings around poor MeAgain, just as he ran rings around President Dogmuncher for eight years. Watching him is like watching a brilliant quarterback playing for a team you really hate. You don’t have to like him, or support what he stands for, to recognize that he’s a canny and effective political force.
http://www.redstate.com/jimjamitis/2017/06/12/defense-jonah-goldberg-busting-four-myths-nevertrump/
Myth 1: Trump shouldn’t be criticized from the right because Democrats are worse.
Myth 2: Trump’s critics on the right are sore losers.
Myth 3: We are AT WAR! Trump is our general.
From big name talk radio hosts all the way down to lowly tweeters with few followers, the Trump-publicans insist that they are fighting a war and Trump is our general. (Presumably this is a way of telling us we must obey Trump’s orders or be shot as deserters.)
Myth 4: NeverTrumpers think they are morally superior.
This one often manifests as accusations of “virtue signaling” which is a silly term people use to trivialize an opinion they don’t like. It’s really just a variation on the ad hominem logical fallacy. The personal attack in this case is dismissing someone’s idea by falsely characterizing their motive for expressing it. The same fallacy could easily (and just as falsely) be turned around to accuse the Trump-publicans of only attacking NeverTrumpers in order to signal their superior loyalty to the “team.”
Ann Coulter had a good Comey joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFkliT_dE4I&t=0s
Finally, she points out that Russia *did* mess with the 2016 election and collude with Americans: when Russia created the defamatory “Trump dossier”.
It was produced by Russians and then put to use by NeverTrumpers, Hillary and CNN.
As to Putin-Kelly: He should have gone farther. She has devolved into just another stupid media-career-ist like the rest.
And in other news…Today, June 12, was THE FIRST complete Cabinet meeting for the Trump administration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59fp7bVhoxg
And yes, Putin is a bad guy. What I’m saying here, is that I’m over this TrumprussiaComey B.S. It’s time to make fun of it. It’s time to make fun of the people who are so insane, or whatever, that they still hold it forth.
Comey also claimed to have read Atty Gen Sessions’ mind when Sessions left the room. …Really? I thought a good investigator ONLY relies on provable and verifiable facts.
Speaking of mind reading, well, this is quite something to behold:
https://youtu.be/Fu7HjZG4tWc
In 2017, the real nazis can’t even comprehend they are nazis.
Just FYI. Beware, with the antifa b*tches, sometimes, they attempt murder:
https://youtu.be/Oj5X_sHtdVY
Cowards are dangerous especially when they show up and act as mobs.
I see Putin more as the team owner, rather than quarterback.
When did people turn on Megyn Kelly? I have always been ambivalent about her, but, generally, I’ve liked her.
I do think they exist (ANTIFA being a prime example). But, then again, I think some of the pro-Trumpers think they’re morally superior too.
haha. rusty and CCP (Clinton supporting anti-deplorables) are commenting on moral superiority!!! They still don’t get this is the major reason why non-progressives control most of the legislative bodies in the US. Keep up the good work. We deplorables need you.
Hi V the K,
“Jim Comey claims he can read Trump’s mind, and that when Trump said “I hope we can put this episode behind us,””
No, When Comey didn’t want to be alone with Trump and then Trump made everyone including the AG leave the room, and then shared that he “hoped” that Comey would let the investigation into Flynn die, you don’t have to be a mind-reader to work out what is going. Thought experiment: If this had been Obama with Comey doing exactly the same thing–you wouldn’t be doing this song and dance routine about not knowing intent. You would be saying–“Yes, Obama was obstructing justice.” You wouldn’t let that slide–the context is too damning to do that. And that would be the general attitude of most commenters here. So, what is different, V the K, that has you defending the President here? Surely it can’t be the fact that the President is nominally a Republican, can it? So, what is it?
Cas – No. Wrong on all counts.
First, you’re ignoring other possibilities for why the President cleared the room. For example, it could be that already was forming a low opinion of Comey, planned to dress him down somewhat, and didn’t want to him to lose face.
I’ve done your thought experiment several times, proactively. The result is always the same.
1. Obama knew Comey needed delicate handling, didn’t want to embarrass him.
2. Of course Obama would rather the investigation die; but he isn’t giving an order.
3. If he were giving an order, he is constitutionally empowered to do so – No “obstruction of justice”, even if the absolute worst were true. Comey still has the options of a) clearly stating that the investigation is right, b) resigning, and/or c) reporting to Congress immediately.
4. And why didn’t he do any of those?
5. Meanwhile the investigation stands or falls on its own terms. Either there’s meat there, or not. If there is, it will come out.
Plus,
6. V isn’t a Republican. Neither am I. I don’t give a crap about the “R”.
What I do give a crap about, is when people irrationally and maliciously foment a false crisis that is both international (with Russia) and constitutional (with McCarthyism on a lawfully elected President). Because they just can’t admit they blew an election. That bothers me.
Let’s criticize President Trump – on grounds that are real.
Hi ILoveCapitalism,
“For example, it could be that already was forming a low opinion of Comey, planned to dress him down somewhat, and didn’t want to him to lose face.”
That makes no sense given the President’s subsequent behavior in the meeting, right? It was all about getting something from Comey–“the hope” that he would drop the investigation!
Let me accept the claim that it was within his prevue to ORDER Comey to drop the investigation. Why not do that, ILoveCapitalism? Why not do that in a crowded room? Because he didn’t want to hurt Comey’s feelings? What is more likely given his behavior AND what was discussed–Occam’s Razor–The President wanted to protect Comey’s feelings (cause that’s the kind of guy President Trump is) OR he wanted to stop the investigation which he knows is damaging by getting Comey to agree to it so as to minimize any political fallout.
And finally–thanks for the thought experiment, but the reality is that MOST on this site would not be calmly saying–oh its a big nothing burger given what Obama did in your thought experiment… They would be looking at that razor blade pretty damn closely and getting on the side that sees major problems with “hoping.” And I don’t think that V the K would be thinking kindly of Obama’s behavior either.