You knew, you had to know, that the left would take their glorious victory in Charlottesville and overplay their hand. Getting the approval of the media and certain Republicans for their violence (“It’s OK because it was against racist bigots”), the left is now running around painting every group that opposes the Progressive Left agenda as “Nazis” and “White Supremacists.”
The NRA… yup, they’re Nazis.
Pro-Lifers… white supremacists. (Ignore, please, that Planned Parenthood exterminates disproportionate numbers of black babies and was founded by a racist for that purpose.)
Republicans are White Supremacists unless they totally cave to all demands of the Taliban left.
Christians… yup, also White Supremacists.
It’s one thing when the Democrat Left is calling people carrying Nazi flags and throwing Hitler salutes at a rally Nazis. You wonder how that will play with ordinary people being shouted at, “The things you believe in make you a Nazi racist!”
After the latest assault on monuments to anyone linked to the Confederacy, I remarked to hubby that it won’t be long until they go after Mt Rushmore and the like.
I hate being right.
I saw yesterday that SJWs want Stone Mountain taken down. Mark Krikorian just tweeted that Al Sharpton has put the Jefferson Memorial on notice.
Orwell would be agog. When will it stop?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450537/al-sharpton-opposes-jefferson-memorial
In Philadelphia, they are going after a statue of mayro Rizzo. They have gone quite mad, and part of me almost cheers it on because this madness will be very offputting to mainstream people.
The Left is all about accentuating the tribalism and hysteria in human nature and running it wild. It always has been; study the French or Russian revolutions.
As a society, we’re in a self-destructive phase like the French or Russian revolutions.
For all their imperfections, Trump & Co are trying to pull us out of the self-destruction: restore American manufacturing, pick our foreign interventions better (e.g. smash ISIS rather than Syria), get sane conservative judges appointed, crack down on criminal gangs, tell lefties the truth to their faces (that they’re as bad as the racist bogeymen they oppose), and so forth.
“This is what it looks like”, when you have imperfect-but-fairly-sane people trying to correct a huge number of highly self-destructive people and self-destructive situations. The kiddies squawk. Ridiculously.
And you keep going, man, how long can they go on? and will they win? meaning, are we doomed? or are things already getting better and it’s just not obvious? Things seem chaotic and even the sane people doubt themselves (and/or each other).
I wonder if they should take down all the statues of FDR; you know, the guy who put people in internment camps based on racial ancestry?
That would require too much honesty, I think.
By and large, people are looking at the Charlottesville mess as being between racists and non-racists. Therefore, they are repelled by what they hear Trump saying: “There are some fine anti-racist people and there are some fine racist people.”
If that is what you hear, you have every right to go ballistic, but you would also be intellectually constipated and going ballistic over attack butterflies and aliens farting in your eggnog.
The actual issue and what Trump was addressing is whether the statues of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson should be left in place or removed. On one side, the white supremacists got a permit from the proper authorities to say that whites are supreme and blacks, Jews and whatever else they dislike are “trash” and that Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson (both dead and unable to speak for themselves) are among their idols and therefore their monuments should remain undisturbed.
The other side is a fractured group of various “offended” subgroups who are promoting their own race or against fascism or just in it for the fight over righteousness and their version of social justice. They seem not to have a developed philosophy about whether the statues should stay or go, but they damned sure know that they hate the white supremacists.
As a consequence, the issue has devolved into a racist vs. anti-racist issue, except for Black Lives Matter, but, hey, that’s beside the point.
If it is racist vs. anti-racist, why do the racists have to get permit, but the anti-racists do not?
More and more people are “noticing” that liberal governments are “trapping” some groups with requiring permits and then standing by while non-permitted opponents mix it up with the permitted stooges. This, of course, speaks of mafia level strategy and conspiracy. However, such a “scheme” is not a particularly high level of government process trap.
Meanwhile, in Charlottesville, “fine people” are still trying to work out whether the statues should stay or go.
Seriously, folks, maybe we worry too much.
More specifically, wrt. the “you’re a Nazi” name calling.
I take it as a linguistic inflation. My little pinky tells me that, still, the vast majority of americans, even mildly on the left of center — well, yes, they just want to mind their own business and are getting more and more wary of taking seriously the deranged left’s “Nazi tag” inflation.
Imho, we should keep our focus on what the legislator actually derives from it and make it into law — and speak out and act accordingly.
As for the name calling per se — I will strive here to ignore it or laugh at it only more thoroughly.
Just my .02
This website is a island of sanity in a world seemingly gone mad, I thank you for that. The entire news media, (at least the outlets I am exposed to ) has gone batcrap crazy. Both U.S.A. radio news and Fox News Radio are just about nonstop with “Trump is a clansman or Nazi sympathizer ” . The local news is filled with disaster about the sewage and water board, while excusing the Mayor for neglecting the situation for many years, because he was busy removing statues.(None of the local crime seems to be committed with cavalry sabers or LeMatt pistols, odd that.) All because Trump spoke the truth.
I may be wrong, but here’s for my rationale, fwiw:
1) Q: what happens when anything gets artificially and forcefully inflated too fast? A: it loses its objective utility value faster than naturally;
2) I believe it applies to psychology too;
I am aware of what Klemperer observed and explained, though.
We ought to stay vigilant and wary of betrayal against language — dear to the left.
Still, I wouldn’t put what we see/hear today at the same level of Klemperer’s time.
A) it was state propaganda; we have deep state corporate propaganda and I suspect americans already only pretend to take the lame MSM seriously;
B) they didn’t have the WWW
It’s impossible to ignore the hysteria & glee that seems to be drooling out of the Left in the past few days. It’s abundant. Like a rampant infection. The Left, supported by the Republican Establishment, do love their race agenda.
The Democrat Plantation politics are front & center. Except, it can’t have an effect on people that already have an opinion on the matter. It’s a Loud, empty paean. Cue in the self-righteous eye-twitches. I would imagine there are more than a few severe cases of burst blood vessels for the obamacare hospital staff to (pretend) treat.
The Left’s Anarchists & Progressives must have their venting sessions every few years. It’s still too bad that they’re still using last years stale talking points. They need to apply new paint to that.
“They need to apply new paint to that.”
They won’t.
Because they can’t.
Their Divide and Conquer game is getting so old that the converts / conversion multiply at quadratic speed — before it goes exponential — even as witnessed on the leftist strongholds themselves, such as Youfreeze (aka Youtube).
I bet we’re going to see more of Jordan Peterson’s, James Damore’s, and Rubin’s popping out and going out there to shake the mainstream ideological corpse bottom-up, until it gets to and threatens the rotten fish head’s assumption of omnipotence itself.
Imho, that process could have only been challenged if they already had the WWW’s content in subjection under their boots.
And they — Soros, Clinton, McCain, et al — still don’t.
It’s just going to be ever more difficult for DJT to do a good job in that adversity, and whether he is hitting the nail right on, or he isn’t — but, that too, I bet it’s something he was expecting.
Interesting the folks who paint with such a wide brush when describing “the left” are bristling and demanding to be painted with a Lamy Safari.
It’s fine. I accept your request for nuance.
But hopefully you can begin to reflect at why wankers like Richard Spencer, Jack Posobiec and James Allsup so easily co-opted your movement.
“Interesting the folks who paint with such a wide brush when describing “the left”…”
The brush didn’t wider, but way, way thiner, actually.
The libertarians and (classical) liberals of yesterday are what today’s left has started to call “Nazi” for their mere non-leftist views (again, as of today).
Pretty much anyone who isn’t an Antifa, or BLM, or By Any Means Necessary nutjob will find themselves in the right, alt right, or extreme right.
We don’t need to make the brush wider.
The Social Justice Warriors and other Leninist-wanna be’s are alienating themselves in the corner of mental illness.
Consistent with the fact they thus need to wake up and grow an even tinier movement they virtue signal about by a theatrical hatred — the so called racists and white supremacists, who, I’m sure, for half of them didn’t even know only yesterday they were / or could be so, btw.
* The brush didn’t go wider
‘hope it clarifies.
#11, Cyril, Oh yes, Pres Trump would have expected it. Despite the ongoing insult of him being clueless. People voted, for the exact same man that they got & that’s a formula for success.
Meanwhile, Pres Trump continues the Agenda. It is indeed going on, on many fronts. Everything he promised. This is what really p!sses of the anti-American Left.
mike, dearest, just because someone’s chosen to support you doesn’t mean they agree with you or you with them. The Communists & violent Anarchists support you, do you agree with them?
The Left can be painted with a wide brush each & every time because anti-Americanism is specific a thing & something expected.
“But hopefully you can begin to reflect at why wankers like Richard Spencer, Jack Posobiec and James Allsup so easily co-opted your movement.”
They have not co-opted the conservative movement except in the minds of leftists. Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley and Tim Scott are all well-respected leaders of our group.
BUT more people may join them if the left continues in their identity politics disparaging mainly whie males. Some examples, a college course on Ending Whiteness, scholars saying the work of primarily white male researchers is suspect, math is racist, check your privilege(whatever that even means).
This is the early hard left, before 150+ millions of innocent slaughtered for their “greater good” and “social justice” :
September 1918 edition of the Bolshevik newspaper, Krasnaya Gazeta:
“We will turn our hearts into steel, which we will temper in the fire of suffering and the blood of fighters for freedom. We will make our hearts cruel, hard, and immovable, so that no mercy will enter them, and so that they will not quiver at the sight of a sea of enemy blood.
We will let loose the floodgates of that sea. Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds.
Let them be thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood […]
Let there be floods of the blood of the bourgeois – more blood, as much as possible.”
Nah not early enough. Let’s go back in time even further, shall we? Eg, way before Maduro, or Castro, or Pol Pot (who studied in Paris, Sorbonne, inspired by french leftists deniers of Stalin’s crimes, 1960s, before returning home exterminating 25% of his own people in just 5 years, 1975-1981), or Mao, or Stalin, or Hitler, or Lenin, or the 1st clan of the KKK :
War in the Vendée
Battle of Savenay (December 1793), General Westermann report to the Convention:
“The Vendée is no more … According to your orders, I have trampled their children beneath our horses’ feet;
I have massacred their women, so they will no longer give birth to brigands.
I do not have a single prisoner to reproach me.
I have exterminated them all.”
Actually, he didn’t, but he got pretty close.
But it didn’t matter too much for the french left who could kept the historical topic taboo (thus, totally occulted from public school “education”) until the early … 1980s when the first historians brave enough finally decide to say, “wait a minute”.
Sorry Mr mike.
You’ve been on the wrong side for over 200 years already.
‘hope it helps.
The left’s imagination to destroy life is endless, though.
Before Hitler’s ovens, or Planned Parenthood’s dismembering devices, our hard left had invented the “the national bathtubs” — also in the Vendee :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drownings_at_Nantes
My grand father was a black man born in the french Caribbean island Martinique, who worked as an attendant on transatlantic liners connecting Normandy, France, the south of the UK, with New York, before, and after WWII. He made a good life and made good friends of a number of white and black peoples while on the job, including some European or American in the post WWII Jazz craze. By the early 60s (1959-1961) half a decade after Castro took over Cuba, he started to warn my then teenager father about the communists and the appalling reports coming from Cuba, Castro and Che’s deeds on black lives that did not matter for the revolution. Those were first only hearsays (confirmed later) during his Europe-US trips. My father kept investigating the topic for himself while watching the growth of influence the Stalinist crimes leftist deniers hanging out in the en vogue elite Paris cafes (Sartre, De Beauvoir, and the rest of the clique who inspired Pol Pot’s crimes in Cambodia 15 years later). Hence how my bad became a staunch anti communist, and didn’t buy a microgram of leftist lip service cr*p about “social justice” or “protecting the minorities”.
Just thought some background would help on my own bias, here.
* Hence how my dad became a staunch anti communist, 1947-present.
TLDR:
Hence, how I became a Nazi in 2017.
Post suggestion:
How about you, GayPatriot readers? What is your personal route to becoming a Nazi — *even in America* — in just 9 months (11/08/2016 and on)
j/k
(I know. Not very funny.)
mike, fyi / ftr: You are super ignorant about Jack Posobiec. Watch for an upcoming post of mine, where he features.
Cyril, you’re a very intelligent, very graceful, very interesting man.
@27 Well, thank you. I have only been very lucky to have great parents and to have made it eventually, for self and my family, to one of the last great free countries in the west that hasn’t completely surrendered on the idea of liberty, yet. And I’d hate to see that happen in this life. So, God forbid.
I became a Nazi the same way I became a Gamergater: I got thrown into the pit with the rest of them.
It’s good to know we can’t trust anyone endorsed by David Duke. Like Barack Obama.
#28 or Keith Ellison.
As to mikey, remember he hates America and everything it stands for. We’re all traitors don’tcha know.
FIFY
You posted this to Ricochet, right?
This is an illustration of the “Two Movies On One Screen” theory by Scott Adams. I’ve been thinking a lot about it a lot in the past few days in the context of the events over the weekend. Those who are up in arms over the comments by POTUS in the intervening period have been watching the horror version of the movie and this past weekend was the point in the movie where extremity amputations were done via bandsaw. Those who think events have progressed to the point of ridiculousness and absurdity are watching a farce with a few violent scenes.
Those who are watching the horror version are coming out of the theater and looking around every which way for a possible attack and having their phones ready to dial 911 at a moment’s notice, while being amazed that their vehicles are in the parking lot right where they left them, undisturbed. Those watching the farce are coming out of the theater thinking about where to have dessert or a snack before going home and thinking about what they need to do to get ready for the next day.
One group wants to write their congresscritter about the increasing violence and attacks in society and why there isn’t more done by The State to prevent it. The other group wants to write their congresscritter about why more things aren’t getting done in Washington. Each side thinks the other is just nuts and should be institutionalized. Next week there will be another two movies on the same screen with similar disparity and similar reactions. This is where we are in 2017. Don’t expect it to change any more than the weather normally does.