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Democrats Moving Hard Left; Republicans Becoming More Centrist

Hey, it’s not me that’s saying it, it’s a study by the left-leaning Pew Research Center.

Pew found Democrats have moved substantially left on a variety of issues while Republicans’ views remain relatively constant.

“In nearly every domain, across most of the roughly two dozen values questions tracked, views of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents and those of Democrats and Democratic leaners are now further apart than in the past,” Pew noted.

NRO has a nifty little graphic that shows just how much the Democrats have shifted hard left.

Emblematic of this hard-left shift is the talk that ancient Senator Dianne Feinstein — a doctrinaire liberal — may be challenged by hard-left California hairpiece Kevin de Leon (of “ghost guns that fire 30 magazine clips per second” fame.) De Leon is so hard left he makes Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren look like … um… someone just moderately left-wing. Susan Collins, maybe.

When Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate, she was decidedly left-leaning, Someone like Kevin de Leon would have been considered part of the radical fringe. He’s now quite the mainstream of a party whose activist core believes that equates Free Speech with White Supremacy and due process with rapists.

Personally, I’d rather see de Leon as President… of the People’s Democratic Republic of California.

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  1. lets face it the democrat party is the communist party usa.

    Comment by salg — October 12, 2017 @ 9:16 pm - October 12, 2017

  2. Well V the K, looking at your picture I have another possibility for you. Namely, Republicans took their turn to radicalism, a tad earlier than the Dems did. I love the diagram you show. The article you link to, makes much hay of this claim from Pew:

    Over the past six years, the share of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents saying the government should do more to help the needy, even if it means going deeper into debt, has risen 17 percentage points (from 54% to 71%), while the views of Republicans and Republican leaners have barely changed (25% then, 24% today).

    And that looks like it supports your point of view pretty nicely–at first blush. Yet, the very next words from the Pew survey shows how beautifully cherry picked this claim is:

    However, Republicans’ opinions on this issue had shifted substantially between 2007 and 2011, with the share favoring more aid to the needy falling 20 points (from 45% to 25%).

    Isn’t a 2004 point exquisitely positioned to “show” the point you wish to support? Even so, the NRO graphic shows a moving to the right of the Republican Party that doesn’t look like “barely changed.” The story is a lot more complicated than the writer, Charles Fain Lehman (or the NRO) lets on. The Pew article is a lot more interesting and nuanced than Mr. Lehman’s approach.

    Comment by Cas — October 13, 2017 @ 12:54 am - October 13, 2017

  3. Salg: Thank you. Many of us out here have been saying Democrat=Socialist (a nice word for Communist) for years now and get shouted down.

    Comment by fortdixmike — October 13, 2017 @ 4:02 am - October 13, 2017

  4. I think it’s funny how Piss Cas, in its attempt to be snarky, shows what the problem is.

    You see, Democrats like Piss Cas don’t want to help “the needy”. If they truly wanted to do that, they could reach into their own pockets and do it now.

    But what Democrats like Piss Cas want is for the government to help THEM — by forcibly redistributing money from others to them. “The needy” is just an excuse. All Democrats, including Obama, Hillary and Elizabeth Warren, have publicly advocated confiscation of private property, forced redistribution of wealth, and nationalization/government takeover of businesses.

    Hence, Piss Cas proves the point. The Democrats are the party of forced redistribution and want to use government as a means to take from others to pay their bills for them. That is Communism at its purest, and demonstrates that the Democrat Party no longer has anything to do with freedom or liberty — it advocates for and practices Communism.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 13, 2017 @ 9:11 am - October 13, 2017

  5. I remember some of the online Democrat chatter following the 2016 election was that one of the reasons for Hillary’s loss was that she wasn’t far enough to the left, and that Bernie would have beaten Trump easily.

    Comment by Conservative Guy — October 13, 2017 @ 10:59 am - October 13, 2017

  6. Just sad what’s happened to a once beautiful state with a grand climate and every kind of place you could want to live from desert to mountains to beaches to great cities. California needs a rebellion by whatever sane citizens are left but I’m sure they have long ago given up on taking it back from the insane PC collectivists that rule there now. Adios amigos, as ye sow so shall ye reap and since you only plan on reaping what someone else sows and grows, good luck with that.Your tech gods can and will only support you from their gated communities and SF lofts for so long.

    Comment by Rex — October 13, 2017 @ 12:45 pm - October 13, 2017

  7. Hi North Dallas Thirty,
    Thank you for your reply. I am glad that you are getting better. You are becoming more and more your old self. 🙂
    By the way, what happened to your blog? I enjoyed reading it when you were posting it. Have you got a different on-line presence I can catch up on?

    Comment by Cas — October 13, 2017 @ 2:10 pm - October 13, 2017

  8. Cas is here looking for someone to drag into the weeds in order to argue about gerbil scat and whether it increases the likelihood of stuttering.

    What is almost always missing from the reports on polls are the actual questions asked.

    For the first time, a majority of Republicans (54%) favor acceptance of homosexuality; just 38% did so in 1994. Yet over this period, the increase in the share of Democrats saying homosexuality should be accepted has been much larger (from 54% to 83%). As a result, partisan differences have gotten larger.

    What, pray tell, is “acceptance of homosexuality.?” 46% of Republicans are homosexuality deniers? Or, 54% of Republicans say that they might consider becoming homosexual themselves? Or, 46% of Republicans say “not in my back yard?”

    Now consider “favoring immigration” as a question.

    I have long understood that the mind which is being polled is as important as the question itself. Look at this from the Pew writers:

    They also have markedly different preferences about where they would like to live. Most Republicans (65%) say they would rather live in a community where houses are larger and farther apart and where schools and shopping are not nearby. A majority of Democrats (61%) prefer smaller houses within walking distance of schools and shopping.

    As every data map shows, the blue voters cluster together in cities and sprawling urban areas. That is their reservation of choice, in no small part because of Section 8 and public housing. It isn’t a “values” thing as much as it is an economic decision.

    However, the biggest rip in this type of polling is the blending of social values with political values. The conservative on national government may be more socially liberal at the state level and downright sympathetic at the local level. The Cajun Navy turned out in force. Some people from the projects worked side by side with them. The “divide” is not what Pew tries to reduce to hard numbers.

    Now, does “accepting homosexuality” mean forcing the baker to provide a wedding cake? Hardly. Like everything else in a slippery language, “acceptance” does not equate to total favor.

    My opinion of liberals has hardened greatly since the time when they decided that Bill Clintoon was just a cute bubba with horndog problems. And then they sent Sandy Burgler to steal items from the National Archive to keep them from exposure in the post 9-11 hearings. Then they tried to steal the 2000 election. Then they floated John F’n Kerry as a war hero. Then they decided to make Afghanistan and Iraq into “George Bush’s Vietnam.” Then Obama came out of nowhere. Nowhere meaning no simple, uncomplicated documented story from birth to candidacy. Sealed records everywhere you turn. And now the Trump coup and the Russia crapola and the special hit man.

    No. Liberals don’t even begin to make an intellectual case for their agenda. They have become snakes, liars and underminers. DemonizingRats. And, on the fringes, the “left-leaning Pew Research Center” is doubtlessly full of people who shade their polling language without even knowing it, because they are liberals.

    The divide is real. I don’t much talk with liberals because within a nano-second they come unhinged and accusations fly. On the flip side, I am quite accustomed to seeing eyebrows arch or lips purse and coldness set in when I don’t enthusiastically agree with some common knowledge such as Trump is an idiot.

    If you can’t have a non-PC opinion and express it, why have the conversation? Watch the talking heads slither and snipe. There is no benefit to it. Nothing of substance is honestly debated.

    Unfortunately, the DemonizingRats “reach” more “minds” than the Republicans. What pisses both parties off is that Trump is a party of his own. He knows how to reach a greater number of minds than the two parties have divided among themselves. The Donald is tapping into the values of people who will go with him rather than a party. Meanwhile, the DemonizingRats are throwing themselves all in for statism and socialism.

    We shall see.

    Comment by Heliorope — October 13, 2017 @ 3:17 pm - October 13, 2017

  9. I think ND30 has left me for Cas. In all these years, ND30 has never come up with a euphemism of my handles as brilliant as “P!ss Cas.” I feel betrayed and shortchanged, especially when I was the one who had been talking about Serrano this past year. Them are the breaks. You’re one lucky fellow Cas. Consider me green with envy. (I guess that makes you yellow, covered in urine, lmao)

    Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — October 13, 2017 @ 4:01 pm - October 13, 2017

  10. The Democrat civilians & assorted other individual idiot radical Commies on the Left still aren’t understanding by hook or crook that it is they who are in a crisis of leadership instead of absolutely anyone in particular on the Right, despite what David Brock media supplicants & Soros networked donation engines are trying to portray. Even the likes of our despicable McCain & Collins are actual leaders compared to a feebly forgetful Pelosi & slimy Schumer. It’s so pathetic, that it’s hardly worth a snicker or brief comment. But it is their state of affairs, without question, backed up by facts. Anyone that actually pays attention to the picture as a whole can see it. If it were happening on the Right, the Democrat Media & with it’s associated Brock plants & Soros blackmail victims would be broadcasting the utterly astounding nothingness of it all.

    I think California is finally coming to terms with the reality on the ground. It is they, as the preeminent liberal bastion on the Left Coast, who are isolated & alone. Hands out like Oliver Twist. Please sir, I want some more. Are the handouts forthcoming? Partly. Normal, big government assistance that needs distribution to their disaster zones. Yet another glaring example of the limited nature of even a big brother surveillance/authoritarian state in its ability to coordinate & supply needs. Idiot, liberal & lazy territory island Puerto Rico being another example. Please sir, can I have some more.

    It was only a matter of time before the President brought the hammer down on their radical former president’s legacies. The reality of it all also being too pathetic for further words.

    They can soak in their old hat Jerry Brown world. He’s too burnt out to even levitate now during his meditations. Feinstein is a lock, still for their premier representation. The Libs & holiday box full full of Left Fringe morons can’t even do the full transition to the Left edge of the world, with alacrity. Feinstein knows she has to bow to the now emerging power in the Senate & his name is Trump. He’s president & he has an even larger electorate behind him.

    The hammer being brought down on Obamacare & the Iran deal? Only the beginning.

    I’m proud of Trump’s constitutional deference on both these warhammer blows. He’s keeping his word. He’s not isolated & the planet is finally starting to understand who’s boss. It’s been over 8 years since there was an actual boss in DC & this one isn’t an Establishment, Democrat ally Bush family member.

    It hasn’t even been a year yet in Democrat, Leftist Pinko suffering – & this puts a smile on my face that frightens any Lib that dares to come within striking range.

    Still too early to certify Democrat Extinction. Working on it. They’re still thinking that there’s a civil war on the Right. It’s not. It’s a takeover by Constitutionalists, Conservatives & their now subordinate “moderate” GOPers. A la Talking Tumor McCain, Quivering Hag Collins of Maine & that utter Bimbo from Alaska who has to navigate her sleep deprived Arctic voting base.

    The Right is doing just fine. The Left’s big mistake? Reid choosing radical Obama for White House. What a boon!

    Thanks.

    Comment by Hanover — October 13, 2017 @ 9:58 pm - October 13, 2017

  11. Hi CrayCrayPatriot,
    You are clearly jealous about North Dallas Thirty’s attention towards me. You have to be the bigger man in this! If it is any consolation, I am sure he will come up with an handle that you will love and learn to cherish, for your very own! 🙂

    Comment by Cas — October 14, 2017 @ 3:30 am - October 14, 2017

  12. I will try to find the strength to carry on in spite of the fact that it’s you he has clearly set his sights on now.

    Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — October 14, 2017 @ 7:33 am - October 14, 2017

  13. There is enough love in North Dallas Thirty’s heart for all of us!

    Comment by Cas — October 14, 2017 @ 1:55 pm - October 14, 2017

  14. Oh, LooK!

    Cas and CrayCray have turned the site into a mutual masturbation pushme-pullme venue.

    Please do not disturb them, they are so cute and cuddly.

    Comment by Heliorope — October 14, 2017 @ 5:49 pm - October 14, 2017

  15. Cas and CrayCray have turned the site into a mutual masturbation pushme-pullme venue.

    Does anyone really want to hear about your night-time sex fantasies?

    Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — October 14, 2017 @ 5:57 pm - October 14, 2017

  16. Yes.

    Comment by Aerinyes — October 15, 2017 @ 7:37 am - October 15, 2017

  17. Girls, girls, this is Gay Patriot, not Grindr.

    Comment by Juan — October 15, 2017 @ 8:41 am - October 15, 2017

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