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The Democrat “Get Out of Jail Free” Card

Posted by V the K at 11:14 am - November 17, 2017.
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Allow me to Summarize this Feminist Writing in the Washington Post: What Al Franken Did Is Totally, Like, Rape Culture, But I’ll Give Him a Pass Because Partisan Politics Is More Important.”

The best part is where she says she is sure other Democrats in the Senate assaulted women and she doesn’t want them to lose their seats to Republicans, because that would be bad for women or something.

If I believed for one second that Franken is the only Democrat in the Senate who has done something like this, with or without photographic evidence, I would see that as the best and most appropriate option. But in the world we actually live in, I’m betting that there will be more. And more after that. And they won’t all come from states with Democratic governors and a deep bench of progressive replacements. Some will, if ousted, have their successors chosen by Republicans.

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  1. For a different opinion, V the K, check out this NYTimes piece. By all means cherry pick your pieces for increased moral outrage, but also understand that there is real debate going on over this–on both the left AND the right.

    Comment by Cas — November 17, 2017 @ 12:26 pm - November 17, 2017

  2. The hypocrisy on the left is so overwhelming larger than the right because the self righteous populate the left to such a greater degree where fairness and light comes from, don’t you know.

    Comment by Hanover — November 17, 2017 @ 12:48 pm - November 17, 2017

  3. Think of the Womyn, Cas!

    If the rethugs get into power more, they’ll institute the handmaids tale!

    They’re AT WAR on WOMYN!

    Hypocritical fearmongering and political posturing do not make a pretty picture, Cas, especially in hindsight.

    They’ve donn their best to craft a narrative of evil republicans and conservatives. And they’re sticking to their story. ‘Well, yeah, but the other guy is worse!’

    Comment by Aerinyes — November 17, 2017 @ 12:52 pm - November 17, 2017

  4. And I do love how leftists like the fraudulent “Cas” pretend that they don’t vomit out self-righteousness on a daily basis in the name of fairness and communism.

    Comment by Hanover — November 17, 2017 @ 12:53 pm - November 17, 2017

  5. So the message to progressive womyn everywhere is that if a powerful Democrat office holder sexually assaults you or otherwise behaves inappropriately, you’d better be prepared to take one for the team?

    Comment by Conservative Guy — November 17, 2017 @ 2:05 pm - November 17, 2017

  6. So the message to progressive womyn everywhere is that if a powerful Democrat office holder sexually assaults you or otherwise behaves inappropriately, you’d better be prepared to take one for the team?

    YES.

    It’s the Kennedy Doctrine, ’til Death Do Us Part.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — November 17, 2017 @ 2:16 pm - November 17, 2017

  7. Well, guess it’s time to get out those presidential kneepads.

    Comment by Aerinyes — November 17, 2017 @ 3:47 pm - November 17, 2017

  8. At the suggestion of Cas, I went there and here ’tis:

    Oh no, not Al Franken, too.

    Before Thursday, I’d hoped Franken would run for president in 2020. A hugely gifted communicator with entertainment chops, he seemed well suited to take on Donald Trump, assuming the demagogic showman seeks re-election.

    Thus opens a NYT Op-Ed.

    Wow!!! A hugely gifted communicator with entertainment chops vs. the demagogic showman, Donald Trump in 2020. What more is there one needs to learn from the Op-Ed writer?

    The left is chock-full-o’-nuts like Kathy Griffin, Al Franken, Lena Dunham, Lewis Black, Rosie O’Donnell, Steven Colbert, Sarah Silverman, Lewis C. K. and Amy Schumer. They say whatever comes to their alleged minds and their drooling minions lap it up.

    Everything on the left is forever being torn down to its most base nitwit level. Kathy Griffin didn’t just stand posing with the bloody, severed head of Donald Trump. She had the professional help of photographers, lighting experts, artists and buffoons all professionally engaged as if this were some sort of monumental Vogue or G.Q. blockbuster photo shoot.

    And, then, the shock!!! The prudes and pukes and banana republic zit clowns objected. What is a leftist to do? Why, ban guns, of course. Can’t you imagine that if a Neanderthal will say Kathy Griffin’s right to free speech crosses a line that the same Neanderthal will just as likely launch an RPG into her without so much as a nod to diversity?

    Such is the divide of “rational thinking” between the world of Cas and the boondocks world of thinkers who have not gone above and beyond the enlightenment of critical thinking and rational discourse. God knows what they see over there in Wonderland and on the road to Utopia, but it turns them into fascists.

    Comment by Heliorope — November 17, 2017 @ 5:36 pm - November 17, 2017

  9. I thank heavens for the existence of Heliotrope and for the existence of the rest of my brethren in sisters on the Right.

    Comment by Hanover — November 17, 2017 @ 7:44 pm - November 17, 2017

  10. The funny part is how the clueless Piss Cas doesn’t realize it’s sowing the seeds of its own destruction.

    Men like Harvey Weinstein, Al Franken, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and the like are not stupid. They know full well that “feminists” like this twit have been brainwashed from birth to believe that Democrats must be in power at all costs. Thus, they also know that, as long as they serve that goal, “feminists” will not only allow them to rape and sexually assault at will, but will openly and actively aid, abet and defend them when they do it.

    And that only encourages them to do it more and more. Hence the hilarity: those who are obsessed with avoiding the imaginary “A Handmaid’s Tale” have succeeded in creating it, a structure in which the Defenders of the Faith like Clinton/Kennedy/Weinstein/Franken must be protected at all costs, with Wife figures like Hillary Clinton ensuring that the Handmaids, the nubile young women the Defenders of the Faith actually WANT to sleep with, spread their legs and keep their mouths shut.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 17, 2017 @ 8:00 pm - November 17, 2017

  11. Time to close it out.
    Sure they might scold Al Franken and maybe toss him from the Senate. So what, they have trainloads of progressive replacements. The objective is what counts, obtaining the power to reshape the United States and the world. The globalists have to arrange things so as to impeach Trump in 2021, So the ground work is being laid. Sexual harassment charge must be believed and Donald Trump has been accused. Once he and Pence are gone, hello President Pelosi Them it will be time to CRUSH the blue collar voter once and for all. They must be taught to never try rebellion by voting a outsider again.
    So if it is necessary to toss Weinstein,Spacey Franken and Clinton, so be it. They play for keeps.
    If you think what’s happening in Alabama is ugly, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
    Rush made the point on his show today about the damage that this going to do to the relationship between the sexes, he is right of course, but Democrats see that as a feature.
    So go ahead, throw the Democratic men to the curb, I am not impressed, because the progressive women want to f–k us all!

    Comment by Matthew the Oilman — November 17, 2017 @ 8:38 pm - November 17, 2017

  12. Donald Trump, Roy Moore, Roger Ailes, Bill O’Reily, GHW Bush …

    And you think that you have moral superiority in this this situation? Hmm… As I have said before–this is not a right or left problem–its a problem of asymmetric power. Powerful men abuse their power. I think we would still see the problem even if women were in charge–its a problem of the desire to exercise power. But hold on to the idea of your moral superiority. I am sure that it will keep you warm at night

    Comment by Cas — November 17, 2017 @ 11:49 pm - November 17, 2017

  13. Yes, Cas, moral superiority is not appropriate for either side, you are right. Let the person without sin cast the first stone. However, what bothers me is how, when a leftist in power does the wrong thing, we are told not to look at his sin, forget about it and move on, because he or she does so much good. However, when someone on the right does it he is a skeezy, dirty, vile man and should step down, allowing this to be his only legacy. Why is that? Why can Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton be great men when they did what they did, while Bush needs to be forever hated? Is it not possible for you to see the double standard?

    Comment by CelibateHomo — November 18, 2017 @ 2:15 am - November 18, 2017

  14. Aw, Cas, there you go again.

    When moral righteousness on the right comes up short and tarnished, it sinks the entire concept of morality in the eyes of the amoral leftist.

    Al Franken is not nearly as bad in the Cas world of amorality, because Al Franken never pretended to be anything more than dog poop. But, when Roman Catholic Bill O’Reilly goes the Bill Clintoon hormonal route on the chicks and camp followers, he is not just fallen person, he is a religious hypocrite.

    Cas and the leftists loathe religion, so they have a special oven in Dachau for religious hypocrites. It warms their amoral compass and makes them feel all gooey with social warrior righteousness delivered by fascist state power.

    Cas speaks of corruption and power. Cas praises corruption when it is the means to a social justice end. Nothing Cas values does she value more than making people adhere to the dictates of the elitist, leftist state. Comrade Cas is Dicken’s Madame Defarge: tough, unforgiving and ruthless. Her knitting may seem harmless, but her needles have sharp points and she knows from deep within her hatred who must meet the guillotine. As with all fascist social justice warriors, Cas and her ilk are consumed by revenge and they will not rest until their desires are satisfied. They seek power in order to weed society of their opponents. All is fair in this war. And corruption is merely a tool.

    Comment by Heliorope — November 18, 2017 @ 2:22 am - November 18, 2017

  15. Cas, I never claimed to be your moral superior. I merely understand power politics. I could never run for office, all my skeletons would be dancing on my lawn . ( I think my skeletons like me, but I couldn’t pass muster with the theocratic elements.) Thanks for your reply.

    Comment by Matthew the Oilman — November 18, 2017 @ 9:06 am - November 18, 2017

  16. Yes, Piss Cas, we are morally superior.

    As you have made clear, Democrats are nothing but subhuman animals who can’t possibly be held to the same standards they impose on others. Behavior like Bill Clinton’s is normal among Democrats.

    And that’s why you don’t get to dictate to us. You are someone who freely admits that you rape children and that you shouldn’t be held accountable for it because that would be “judging”. Fine. We’ll accept that you are at the level of an animal, and that Democrats like you’re Al Franken and Ted Kennedy are just doing what animals do.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 18, 2017 @ 10:36 am - November 18, 2017

  17. Also, Heliotrope, I must disagree with you slightly on your comparison of Madame Defarge with Piss Cas.

    Madame Defarge had ample reason to hate and to want revenge for what has been done to her and family. Her error was in attacking the innocent for the crimes of the guilty.

    Piss Cas has no reason for revenge. Piss Cas is acting out of a sociopathic desire to control and punish others for its own selfish desires. Piss Cas’s pathology comes, not from a lifetime of oppression, but the reverse — a lifetime of selfish indulgence with no restraint. Piss Cas and indeed the vast majority of our liberal commenters have never once been told no or asked to restrain themselves for the well-being of others.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 18, 2017 @ 10:51 am - November 18, 2017

  18. Just lie back and think of Hillary.

    Comment by Joe — November 18, 2017 @ 4:11 pm - November 18, 2017

  19. Hi Matthew the Oilman,
    I appreciate the comment–It is a pity that elections are not held around Halloween. If they were, you would win in a landslide! 🙂

    Hi CelibateHomo,
    I agree about BC back in the day–the left defended him, no doubt. It was a question of “our guy,” against the “other guys.” That was tribal. Like it is now. I like to think that as I get older I learn more about what is important. You balance power and morality, and expediency often wins out. Like it will here–pretty much a certainty. At the time, I saw that BC was guilty of lying about his affair under oath and I weighed that against whether it would be a good thing to impeach him over it. At the time, I did not know what the answer was, but I thought the guy was doing a good job and I was very interested in not giving the other side a victory on this issue since I didn’t think they were any better than the one they wanted to get rid of. So, I didn’t support impeachment.

    The left is struggling over Al Franken for the same reason. Some are in denial, though that is nonsensical because Franken acknowledged the wrong-doing. I think most realize that he did wrong, but they don’t want to give a win to the other side, especially when the other side is as radicalized as it is, in their eyes. It is tribal. So they look for ways around it. If there is one thing that Franken should have learned, it is that he should have denied everything and started counter-accusations immediately as both Moore and Trump did. As BC did. Acknowledging what happened might be morally right, but it makes you look weak in the eyes of many; weak of character, etc. since you did wrong by crossing the line (and telling people you did). If you deny it, your tribe can rationalize and pretend that it is all a conspiracy to undermine “their guy.” Even if you have a tape of the guy talking about his proclivity for sexual assault or plenty of witnesses and alleged victims who he and others can call liars. Who will you believe, me or your lying ears?

    By all means, dredge up BC to show the left’s hypocrisy, but please do not let it detract from the hypocrisy on the right. The only question is what you and I decide to do now. What do we choose? Power, expediency, or any number of ethical approaches that can give a rationalization to what has been going on (e.g., greatest good for the greatest number) or, perhaps even an ethics grounded in human dignity and in understanding that humans are ends in themselves and not means to ends?

    So, I have a question for you and others interested in such things. What would you have Franken do? Does acknowledging that it happened before he came to the office of Senator mean that he has confessed and should either resign or be ejected? Or that he can stay? Would it be enough to say that it is now up to the voters of Minnesota to decide whether they want him as their senator at the next election, knowing now what he did in the past and deciding whether or not to vote him in for another term? Or let the Democratic Party decide his fate on that issue? Or something else?

    Comment by Cas — November 18, 2017 @ 4:20 pm - November 18, 2017

  20. Jon Gabriel: Republicans are backing Roy Moore for the same reasons Democrats backed Bill Clinton – and until that changes, we’ll continue to elect sexual harassers and abusers.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2017/11/17/roy-moore-bill-clinton-sexual-harassment-politics/869635001/

    Comment by rusty — November 18, 2017 @ 4:35 pm - November 18, 2017

  21. Today, we’re seeing the same mentality in reverse. Roy Moore has an R after his name and a large number of Republicans will do anything to stick it to the media and the left. Even if it means voting for a guy who used to cruise the local mall looking for teenage girls.

    The old boys-will-be-boys culture might be on the way out in Hollywood. But until voters drop their amoral tribalism, it might remain in politics for years to come.

    Jon Gabriel, a Mesa resident, is editor-in-chief of Ricochet.com and a contributor to The Republic and azcentral.com. Follow him on Twitter at @exjon.

    Comment by rusty — November 18, 2017 @ 4:37 pm - November 18, 2017

  22. But Seth also makes you think

    Seth MacFarlane
    @SethMacFarlane
    You really have to be a special kind of human garbage to lift a ban on elephant trophy hunting.

    Comment by rusty — November 18, 2017 @ 5:12 pm - November 18, 2017

  23. Um, Rusty, as Trump said, the removal of the ban has been under study for some time. The rationale is that lifting the import ban (by providing US import permits) for trophies taken in specific areas, collected with permission of the local government (e.g. Namibia). As with whitetail deer, there are locales with too many elephants.

    Earlier today, an article on salon.com discussed reasons to allow some hunting of elephants in areas where the population had grown. It seems to have disappeared from their front page but I might spend a few minutes later to find it.

    Myself? I don’t hunt and couldn’t bring myself to shoot a squirrel. I see a lion and I see a giant, cuddly cat. Of course, I’m in no danger if being eaten by a lion and lions attacking a herd of cows doesn’t keep me from my next meal so there’s that.

    Has @SethMacFarlane expressed his disapproval of the ongoing slaughter of people in, say, Yemen begun by The One (and continuing, for reasons I still can’t fathom, under Trump)? Is @SethMacFarlane schooled in wildlife management? Anyway, Trump killed the ban earlier today and the only thoughts McFarlane ever caused me to think is “what a moron”.

    Comment by KCRob — November 18, 2017 @ 6:06 pm - November 18, 2017

  24. …Trump let the ban remain…

    Comment by KCRob — November 18, 2017 @ 6:07 pm - November 18, 2017

  25. Cas @ #19:

    • “That was tribal. Like it is now.”

    • “You balance power and morality, and expediency often wins out.”

    • “The only question is what you and I decide to do now. What do we choose? Power, expediency, or any number of ethical approaches that can give a rationalization to what has been going on (e.g., greatest good for the greatest number) or, perhaps even an ethics grounded in human dignity and in understanding that humans are ends in themselves and not means to ends?”

    So it is Old Testament “tribal” except there is no God. Cas is careful about how she knits her rules.

    Forget “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    Forget “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

    Forget honor. It is all tribal and about how you balance power and morality and expediency. It not how you play the game, it is about winning and losing.

    Typical fascist situation ethics and amorality. The good of the state comes first.

    You need no higher power or order than your own tribal political instincts and the willingness to corrupt power in the knowledge that the ends justify the means.

    The DemonizingRats set out to crucify Trump on the Cross of Collusion with Putin. Then the worm turned and it is becoming increasingly evident that the DemonizingRats own the Cross of Collusion with Putin.

    The DemonizingRats went after Trump with their pussy hats and his locker room talk about crotch grabbing hot roadies. And then, the lechery on the left came out of sewers everywhere and the DemonizingRats are up to their ears in their own offal.

    Yeah, that balancing power and morality and expediency works like a charm.

    This mangled psychobabble takes the cake: “an ethics grounded in human dignity and in understanding that humans are ends in themselves and not means to ends.”. That sort of ashtray philosophy is too big for a bumper sticker and too obtuse for a sign in a bar.

    We have a perfectly useful 2,000 year old ethic which has been worked and reworked and studied by great minds. Certainly far greater minds than any Democrat or Republican wandering around with his hand out or on some private parts.

    Cas long ago chose amorality, situation ethics, the socialist-fascist route to statism over ethics and morality. She wants her tribe to win the game of balancing power and morality and expediency and corruption and come out on the tribal top.

    Lord of the Flies.

    Comment by Heliorope — November 18, 2017 @ 6:35 pm - November 18, 2017

  26. http://uproxx.com/news/fox-news-laura-ingraham-trump-elephant-trophies/

    Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke just finished redecorating his office with big game trophies before he reversed a ban (that was implemented by President Obama) on importing elephant trophies from Zimbabwe and Zambia, but he might not have been fully prepared for the backlash. Laura Ingraham of Fox News lambasted the Trump administration for lifting the restrictions on Twitter, hinting that she’ll have even more to say on the subject in the future.

    Comment by rusty — November 18, 2017 @ 6:55 pm - November 18, 2017

  27. And here comes rusty to demonstrate how mentally inferior puppet Democrats like him are.

    The elephant thing is a classical attempt at emotional manipulation. But unfortunately for mentally-inferior rusty, educated Americans know that elephant populations are already at the point where game managers are desperately trying to use contraception to manage out of control numbers, which are destroying crucial habitats for other less-sexy animals.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/50561-vaccine-contraception-replacing-hunters-for-culling-elephants.html

    Again, intelligent people who actually study science know that nature is a delicate balance, and that blindly “saving” only one particularly-telegenic animal has an established track record of destroying entire ecosystems. Managed hunting is an established and effective manner of population control, and only science-denying imbeciles like rusty would say otherwise.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 18, 2017 @ 10:30 pm - November 18, 2017

  28. How about this, Cas and Heliotrope: stop believing that anyone in Washington or with a desire to go to Washington doesn’t have skeletons in their closet and understand that most of them on any side are in it for themselves. Then, it becomes a matter of which is the lesser of two evils, which is frankly what every election has come to today. Everyone is a little bit dirty…so, the question should not be about who is morally superior. The question should be about who has done more to learn from their mistakes and will take that life experience with them as a means of making things better for everyone else. Being in public office should be about service to those you represent, and the job you do in that office. Life experience, even the errors, sins, mistakes one makes, speak to that type of service through the display of humility and truth. All of this may be very idealistic of me to say, but very few people display any of the humility, truth, or learning I describe. So, again, it comes down to the lesser of two evils, which makes me sad, and maks our political system weak and ineffective.

    Comment by CelibateHomo — November 19, 2017 @ 3:37 am - November 19, 2017

  29. Guess what? Poachers are so sophisticated that the “good guys” are using complex intelligence to track them and catch them in act. In actual point of fact, they would prefer to kill the saps, but they need them in order to trace the money trail back to Asia where lion testicles bring big $$$$$ per ounce. Powdered rhino horn is the most expensive commodity per ounce on the market.

    The easily duped eco-morons have no concept of what is going on in the exotic animal world. Herds are culled for a large variety of reasons. Eco-warriors with animal-loving hearts are dedicated to the concept of helping maintain herd viability and health.

    Part of the way the eco-warriors raise the funds for ever rising costs is by selling the supervised rights for a Jungle Jim type to come and “cull” the selected animal under the supervision of the system. Poachers have no such niceties.

    At Kruger National Park, every elephant is identified, known and monitored. As the tusks grow, so does the interest of poachers increase.

    If you want to live in the wild with the animals, it is quite possible. You buy a house in a private sanctuary, you get fully trained by the state concerning husbanding the wildlife and you keep track (along with your sanctuary mates) of the enclosed rhinos, elephants, leopards, cheetahs, hyenas, giraffe, multiple types of hoofed animals, etc. Most sanctuary people decided long ago to cut the rhino horns in order to save their lives from poachers.

    It is a complicated system of preservation, protection and propagation. It is not perfect. But the day of redneck trophy hunting has long since been managed by a wide variety of authorities.

    If you want to meet the nastiest animal imaginable, take a turn with a pack of African wild dogs. These critters have been marked for near extermination. They would just as soon eat a kindergarten or a granny on a park bench as bring down a young rhino in the deep wild.

    Trump is going to sort out the feuding counter opinions of “true-believer” conservationists and act on the what appears to be the best route. Unlike Obama, he will not wave his robed arm and strike a haloed pose and deliver the word of God.

    When it is all said and done, you can get your high horse from the likes of Rachel Madcow or you can scratch the surface a millimeter deep and discover that a whole lot of “simple” stuff is really just the fertilizer for simpletons.

    Rusty, if you would like to kill an elephant and pay huge money to stuff its head, the countries of middle and southern Africa sell those rights as a part of their program to manage the health of herds. They will take you to the elephant and back up your shot so that the “job” gets done properly. If that messes with your mind, it is your mind that needs attending.

    Comment by Heliorope — November 19, 2017 @ 3:47 am - November 19, 2017

  30. CelibateHomo @ #28:

    • “stop believing that anyone in Washington or with a desire to go to Washington doesn’t have skeletons in their closet”

    • “understand that most of them on any side are in it for themselves”

    • “Everyone is a little bit dirty…so, the question should not be about who is morally superior”

    • “who has done more to learn from their mistakes and will take that life experience with them as a means of making things better for everyone else”

    • ” Life experience, even the errors, sins, mistakes one makes, speak to that type of service through the display of humility and truth.”

    In December, F. H. Buckley”s The Republic of Virtue: How We Tried to Ban Corruption, Failed, and What We Can Do About it will be published. Buckley is a Foundation Professor at George Mason University’s Scalia School of Law.

    Buckley writes that public corruption is the silent killer of our economy. We’ve spawned the thickest network of patronage and influence ever seen in any country, a crony capitalism in which business partners with government and transfers wealth from the poor to the rich. This is a betrayal of the Framers’ vision for America, and of the Constitution they saw as an anti-corruption covenant.

    Buckley argues that we’ve criminalized political speech and sent the message that it’s unsafe to get involved in politics without a lawyer at one’s side. Donor disclosure requirements have also unleashed Internet mobs that attack political opponents.

    The regulatory net has the curious feature that the big fish swim through safely while only the little fish are caught, and those with the wrong political beliefs. All such rules are a disaster, and should be replaced by a different set of laws that focus on crony capitalism and the nexus of legislators and lobbyists that prey on our economy.

    The key in what Buckley identifies is the virtue of the Republic.

    An amoral people can not speak truth to power, appreciate humility, value virtue or keep a promise based on the concept of integrity.

    No one has ever addressed me as a partner in muddled thinking along with Cas. You caught my attention. As I wrote @ #25:

    We have a perfectly useful 2,000 year old ethic which has been worked and reworked and studied by great minds. Certainly far greater minds than any Democrat or Republican wandering around with his hand out or on some private parts.

    I strongly advocate that ethics ridded of the uselessness of being situation dependent and that good and evil be returned to the clear, bright line which divides them.

    We have taken to the slippery slope and the land of triggered feelings to the point where only state fascism is left for ending the game.

    “Everyone is a little bit dirty” you declare. That is what Jesus to the fore. But, everyone can face his demons, recognize his failings and strive to do better. In 2000 years, we have had only one Jesus. But we have had a huge number men and women who learned the lessons of Christianity and reach for heaven rather than dwell in inquiry.

    Your cynical view of mankind is typical of the age. It is a marker of a civilization in its death cycle.

    Comment by Heliotrope — November 19, 2017 @ 4:45 am - November 19, 2017

  31. Critics of the decision to allow elephant remains into the country from Zimbabwe and Zambia included not only House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Edward Royce, R-Calif., but Fox News host Laura Ingraham and conservative radio host Michael Savage, who tweeted Friday before the policy reversal, “DO BRAVE MEN HUNT ELEPHANTS? SHOULD TRUMP PREVENT THE IMPORTATION OF LION AND ELEPHANT TROPHIES?”

    On Saturday morning, several GOP elected officials, including South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster, praised Trump. The president retweeted accolades from two conservative television hosts, Piers Morgan and Greta Van Susteren.

    Van Susteren thanked him for the reversal, writing, “this is important to so many of us,” while Morgan wrote “BOOM! Thank you, Mr President. Trophy-hunting is repellent.”

    Comment by rusty — November 19, 2017 @ 5:15 am - November 19, 2017

  32. Michael Asavage —

    Michael Savage: Mr. President, You’re Just Plain Wrong on Elephant Trophies

    Permitting the importation of elephant trophies? Are you kidding? This is a stereotype of the ugly Republican . . . on steroids. Everything the left says about the insensitive, earth-killing, animal destroying, oafish Republican is coming to fruition all in one move. Who advised you on this Mr. President? You still have time to reverse this order and restore common decency. Stop the importation of elephant trophies and stop it NOW. If you do not do this you will forever lose the independent, animal-loving voter.

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/elephant-trophies-imports-hunting-endangered-species/2017/11/16/id/826637/

    Comment by rusty — November 19, 2017 @ 5:38 am - November 19, 2017

  33. Has Rusty ever had an original thought?

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 19, 2017 @ 8:07 am - November 19, 2017

  34. There may be a reason his tag is “rusty”.

    Comment by Juan — November 19, 2017 @ 9:26 am - November 19, 2017

  35. @ CelebateHomo, I detect some clarity in your remark but it is a mistake to lump Heliotrope in with “Cas”on any issue high or low. She is a low quality farm animal troll with resources to cut and paste (paraphrase) and he is an articulate conservative without peer.

    You make a good point that we are all human including those that join public service. But no one is without a flaw and those that come close to being so aren’t worthy of performing in society in any niche.

    The Left has made all topics high and low, toxic. I would reference and view this current cycle as beginning with George W. However it’s not as simple as that and the David Brock’s and George Soros machinations need to be taken into account also it is they who have injected poison into our society with their behind the scenes treachery. Using the tendencies of the Democratic Party’s endemic authoritarianism as a basis for their attempt at an ideological takeover.

    “Cas”and her now-stooge CCP is radioactive. They are used by us to highlight our (the Right) agenda. She only reflects the destabilization tactics of the Democrat media. There is absolutely no substance to anything she vomits out.

    Comment by Hanover — November 19, 2017 @ 11:41 am - November 19, 2017

  36. Hi CelibateHomo,
    Thank you for your thoughtful reply at #28–you point to the struggle between cynical self-interest and an ethical stance fueled by humility and dedication to truthfulness. You ask:

    The question should be about who has done more to learn from their mistakes and will take that life experience with them as a means of making things better for everyone else.

    Learning from Experience is the key for you. OK, what do you think? What does your thinking and feeling tell you? Are the people we have elected or appointed either directly or indirectly acting in this way that you mention? Do you see the positive qualities you mentioned currently in our current times, in Washington and/or elsewhere? Who acts in the way you suggest is best?

    Comment by Cas — November 19, 2017 @ 1:29 pm - November 19, 2017

  37. Hi V the K,

    I didn’t realise the Trump accusation list was so long:

    1986. Accused of groping and kissing on Jessica Leeds.
    1989. Ivana Trump made a claim under oath that he raped her.
    1990s. Accused of groping Kristin Anderson.
    1994. Accused of raping a 13-year-old, along with registered sex-offender Jeffrey Epstein.
    1997. Accused of attempted rape on Jill Harth. Accused of forcing himself on Cathy Heller and Temple Taggart.
    1998. Accused of groping Karena Virginia.
    2003. Accused of groping Mindy McGillivray.
    2005. Accused of forcing himself on Natasha Stoynoff and Rachel Crooks.
    2006. Accused of groping Ninni Laaksonen. Accused of grabbing and kissing on Jessica Drake and two of her friends.
    2007. Accused of forcing himself twice on Summer Zervos.
    2010. Accused of forcing himself on a friend of Erin Burnett.
    2013. Accused of groping Cassandra Searles.

    Disgusting. So, is this something that you ignore in the case of political expediency? Your boy is doing all kinds of things you approve of and you extol the virtues of his tweeting style.

    Cheers,
    CCP

    Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — November 19, 2017 @ 4:22 pm - November 19, 2017

  38. Hi CelibateHomo,

    Cas is now engaged in the manipulation of anything you say. She has pinned you with “cynical self-interest” vs. “ethical stance fuels by humility and dedication to truthfulness.”

    Cas is a black widow. She will not allow you to define yourself or reject her definition of how you think.

    This Cas “question” is telling: “What does your thinking and feeling tell you?”

    Note: Cas only thinks based on feeling and the rest is all bullshite.

    @ #30 I wrote: “Your cynical view of mankind is typical of the age. It is a marker of a civilization in its death cycle.”

    We conservatives are NOT cynical. We are skeptics. We look at “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” – and – “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” – and we ask how state socialism and crony capitalism enhances our foundational principles.

    That is not cynicism of the likes of Hobbes, it is pure enlightenment reasoning based on skepticism.

    Cas can offer nothing but “what I think and feel is equal to what anyone else thinks or feels.” Then she plays with you before she claps her ears and says you can’t make yourself heard as she changes the topic and oh! look! a squirrel!

    Good luck if you choose to treat her with dignity.

    Comment by Heliotrope — November 19, 2017 @ 4:24 pm - November 19, 2017

  39. Hi Cas/CCP @ #37.

    Accused, accused, accused, accused, accused, accused, etc.

    Strange. In 1900, Manhattan had several signature buildings named after the builder.

    In 2000, Manhattan had a skyline of buildings at Columbus Circle named Trump. No one person in Manhattan had ever built a skyline and named it for himself.

    To do so, Trump had to fight legions of aggressive competitors. He had to deal with the unions. He had to deal with the neighborhood associations. He had to deal with the building inspectors. He had to deal with City Hall. He had to deal with the crooks and corruptocrats. He had to deal with monied interest allied against him. He had to deal with finance brokers. He had to stay on top of and ahead of a whole sewer of leeches, grifters and malevolent politicians.

    And, he won. Time and time again. He became a force to reckoned with. There was only one Trump and he was Trump.

    Sure there were hitches and even outright failures. And, of course accusations.

    From 1990 to 2016 is more than a quarter of century during which the accusations just wouldn’t stick. Even the most corrupt, politically motivated “justice” big-wigs couldn’t “get the goods” on Trump.

    Here is why: He wore them down and out in court. He hoisted them on their own petard.

    So, you want to drag out accusations as if they have coincidental “proof” embedded in their numbers? Go right ahead. No one has proceeded beyond scurrilous innuendo yet.

    That is not because Trump is powerful. It is because Trump understands corruptocrats and he turns their trash back on them.

    Cheers,
    Heliotrope

    Have a lovely day sticking your arm up your sock puppet’s arse.

    Comment by Heliotrope — November 19, 2017 @ 5:21 pm - November 19, 2017

  40. Disgusting. So, is this something that you ignore in the case of political expediency? Your boy is doing all kinds of things you approve of and you extol the virtues of his tweeting style.

    Comment by CrayCrayPatriot — November 19, 2017 @ 4:22 pm – November 19, 2017

    Of course.

    After all, political expediency is the highest virtue in the Democrat lexicon.

    It would feel good, momentarily, to see Franken resign and the Democratic governor of Minnesota, Mark Dayton, appoint a senator who has not (as far as we know) harmed women. If I believed for one second that Franken is the only Democrat in the Senate who has done something like this, with or without photographic evidence, I would see that as the best and most appropriate option. But in the world we actually live in, I’m betting that there will be more. And more after that. And they won’t all come from states with Democratic governors and a deep bench of progressive replacements. Some will, if ousted, have their successors chosen by Republicans.

    In other words, if we set this precedent in the interest of demonstrating our party’s solidarity with harassed and abused women, we’re only going to drain the swamp of people who, however flawed, still regularly vote to protect women’s rights and freedoms. The legislative branch will remain chockablock with old, white Republican men who regard women chiefly as sex objects and unpaid housekeepers, and we’ll show them how staunchly Democrats oppose their misogynistic attitudes by handing them more power.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/17/im-a-feminist-i-study-rape-culture-and-i-dont-want-al-franken-to-resign/?utm_term=.22b0110124db

    Now, what is your point, CrayCray?

    If you want to argue that we should follow a higher moral standard than that…….then explain why it doesn’t apply to you and your fellow Democrats.

    And if you are going to claim we should behave better because we’re Christians and conservatives and whatnot….then admit that your liberal and Democrat Party ideology is morally inferior and deficient when compared to Christian and conservative ideology.

    If you’d like to have a moral panic, go run down to Hollywood and start ripping out of the pavement the stars of all those Democrat celebrities that have done so much to cover up for and defend pedophiles, rapists, and sexual assaulters.

    Or amuse us by spinning, in essence, “When you’re a star you can do anything.”

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 19, 2017 @ 6:09 pm - November 19, 2017

  41. Heliotrope, I was trying to be positive, not cynical. I was indicating traits that I would find suitable in a candidate that I felt was trying to actually be a public servant in the current political climate (which I realize at this juncture, is completely hypothetical).

    Cas: I answered your questions in my post: none of them currently strike me as trying to live as public servants with the qualities that I described, including humility and a sense of life lessons learned. If you were hoping I would have some sort of epiphany that made me support your democratic socialist ideals and social justice warrior candidates pandering for votes, I am not sad to disappoint you. None of those things will ever happen.

    Comment by CelibateHomo — November 20, 2017 @ 12:34 am - November 20, 2017

  42. Hi CelibateHomo,
    Nope, I wasn’t expecting you to be a socialist or become one. I read your comment at #28, and saw this:

    All of this may be very idealistic of me to say, but very few people display any of the humility, truth, or learning I describe. So, again, it comes down to the lesser of two evils, which makes me sad, and maks our political system weak and ineffective.

    I assumed that “very few” meant you had some people who were virtuous example in mind. Can you at least talk about those who you think were examples of “the lesser of two evils”?

    Comment by Cas — November 20, 2017 @ 3:17 am - November 20, 2017

  43. No, Cas, I won’t. Mostly because since most of my choices would lean right or libertarian, you wouldn’t agree. It would be a futile exercise.

    Comment by CelibateHomo — November 20, 2017 @ 2:05 pm - November 20, 2017

  44. No worries CelibateHomo,
    Just remember that you were the one to make the claim. I just asked for examples you had in mind. And whether I agree with you is not the issue. Unless what you need is someone to tell you, uncritically, that your choices are super-awesome. And then, right you are, it would be a futile exercise to ask that of me.
    Take care
    Cas

    Comment by Cas — November 20, 2017 @ 8:59 pm - November 20, 2017

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