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  1. Good post, Bruce.

    Another example of the GayLeft hitching our collective future to the whore of radical Democrat politics. Any chance any conservative gay group in Tampa can “out” these slimebags to the mainstream press in Tampa? I guess not, that’s counterproductive to give them press or attention.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — November 8, 2005 @ 10:39 am - November 8, 2005

  2. Well, I just emailed LCR Tampa Bay and Equality Florida, both of which are linked on the QueerTampa website, to let them know what was going on there. Hopefully they’ll take some sort of action, be what it may.

    I’m not sure that QueerTampa qualifies as a gay rights group….looks more to me like a commercial website….but hey, it’s their funeral.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2005 @ 10:50 am - November 8, 2005

  3. Right on, sisters. I myself am particularly intrigued by this statement in their “explanation” of their site:

    “allow the looting of our economy by private enterprise”

    How in the hell does private enterprise LOOT a free economy? I thought private enterprise (as defined by Adam Smith) helped to SUPPORT a free economy?

    I guess that the Queer Tampons don’t consider that in their “gay-friendly” nations of North Korea, Cuba, China and Vietnam, their economies thrive because of lack of “private enterprise.”

    Methinks the Queer Tampons doth protest too much. And they also have talking points from both the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital.

    Regards,
    Peter Hughes

    Comment by Peter Hughes — November 8, 2005 @ 1:08 pm - November 8, 2005

  4. I don’t see GCB and QP trolling on this one….

    Comment by GayPatriot — November 8, 2005 @ 1:24 pm - November 8, 2005

  5. Peter Hughes:

    How in the hell does private enterprise LOOT a free economy?

    Funny, that was my first thought as well. And it just seemed to go downhill from there…

    Comment by EW1(SG) — November 8, 2005 @ 2:02 pm - November 8, 2005

  6. Never underestimate the left’s idiocy.

    Comment by rightwingprof — November 8, 2005 @ 2:41 pm - November 8, 2005

  7. As I stated in my article, I don’t respect any opinion based on hatred. Further, I STILL can’t figure out how Bush is Hitler, but he’s controlled by the Jews.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 8, 2005 @ 2:53 pm - November 8, 2005

  8. This Is Gay News??

    UP-UPDATE:

    Bruce over at GayPatriot has his take on this here.

    Trackback by That Gay Conservative — November 8, 2005 @ 2:58 pm - November 8, 2005

  9. Hey, EW1(SG) – long time no see! :)

    Comment by Frank IBC — November 8, 2005 @ 3:08 pm - November 8, 2005

  10. The Train to Montana

    Sure, gay rights are kind of sort of important. Especially if you’re, you know, a gay rights group. Maybe. Oh hell, why bother about gay rights when there are so many left-wing talking points to be had?
    Gay Patriot brings us an e-mail from a gay rig…

    Trackback by The Malcontent — November 8, 2005 @ 3:28 pm - November 8, 2005

  11. How in the hell does private enterprise LOOT a free economy?

    Let me explain to you how this works. The corporations sit there in their… In their corporation buildings, and, see, they’re all corporation-y, and they make money.

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2005 @ 3:40 pm - November 8, 2005

  12. I sent it to LCR yesterday and the Tampa Tribune, Lakeland Ledger and the Orlando Sentinel today.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 8, 2005 @ 3:46 pm - November 8, 2005

  13. Incidentally, I received a very nice email back from Tampa LCR….they previously had linked this site on their website and they will be doing so no longer. Haven’t heard back from Equality Florida yet….not that I expect to….

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2005 @ 3:53 pm - November 8, 2005

  14. Let me explain to you how this works. The corporations sit there in their… In their corporation buildings, and, see, they’re all corporation-y, and they make money.

    Why am I suddenly thinking of underwear gnomes?

    Comment by rightwingprof — November 8, 2005 @ 3:55 pm - November 8, 2005

  15. I’ve seen MUCH better photoshop morphs of Chimpy and Adolf…. they should be ashamed!

    Comment by Eddie — November 8, 2005 @ 5:27 pm - November 8, 2005

  16. Just wanted to thank you for insight on this particular group. Once upon a time I too would have shoved the “ALL ABOUT ME and MY Gayness” right into your face. These days tho’ I have learned that it never really mattered how “bizarre” or angry I got at the conservatives. (They still don’t like me as much as I thought they should. But I know that mutal understanding of differences between people can be worked out and that it is not all about Gays, Blacks, Mexicans(which I’m half by the way). I am a Libertarian and a little more Moderate than conservative. However, I am on your side.

    Take Care.

    Comment by R — November 8, 2005 @ 7:16 pm - November 8, 2005

  17. Good posting. The term “rights” comes from ethics: “it is right to do this, it is wrong to do that.” It is definitely counterproductive to go around equating Bush with Hitler, but that will all be forgotten soon. On the other hand, claiming special “rights” that others do not have may be a deeper form of self-sabotage.

    Comment by A Christian Prophet — November 8, 2005 @ 7:40 pm - November 8, 2005

  18. “I STILL can’t figure out how Bush is Hitler, but he’s controlled by the Jews.”
    Yeah, like that’s not a flagrant, racist, unsupported statement.

    As for looting the economy?
    Well, how about moving professional jobs off-shore from the US? That takes good-paying jobs away from qualified people here; Helps promote unemployment in this country

    How about hiding/moving profits off-shore so corporations don’t pay their fair share of taxes? I think for a US company to remove money from the U.S. economy could be considered a form of looting. We’re slowly being turned into 3rd world nation by the people who run big business in this country.

    I’m all for free-enterprise and capitalism, heck my career is firmly based in a large capitalist company; I guess I’m smart in that I have a unique job that can’t be done over the phone and requires face to face contact. Without some limits, then we’re in big danger of our major corporations playing a hand in the demise of the American lifestyle. A while back, the state of Indiana killed a $15m outsourcing contract for a new computer system. The outsourcing was to go to a company in India that would have brought workers from India to install and maintain it. The ironic part was that the comptuer system was for the state unemployment system. The legislature caught on to this and passed a law prohibiting state contracts to go to foreign companies. The law was proposed by a Republican by the way and that seems to me an act of actually protecting American jobs.

    Capitalism isn’t necessarily compatible with democracy. Heck, capitalism isn’t compatible so-called christianity in this country. I not aware of many people who run big businesses who allow the teaching of Christ to get in the way of making a buck (anyone know if people like Lay, Kozlowski, Swartz or Belnick consider themselves to be Christian?)

    My point here? Our government has a vested interest in keeping money and jobs in this country, no matter who is president and what party is in “power”. We’re on a bad road if more and more jobs are taken out of the country.

    Comment by Kevin — November 8, 2005 @ 10:30 pm - November 8, 2005

  19. “I suppose no repeat attack on our mainland since 9/11 doesn’t count for them”

    Ya know, it’s very easy to twist around situations and words to suit one’s needs and perspective.

    How about “No repeat attacks since on the US in the 8 years following the World trade bombing in 1993 as long as Bill Clinton was President of the U.S.”?

    Or how about: “Nov. 8th, 2005: 1519 days since 9/11/01 and Osama Bin Laden still not caught while Bush remains president; Bin Laden remains free to continue plotting against the U.S. and other countries”

    Pretty easy isn’t it?

    Comment by Kevin — November 8, 2005 @ 11:00 pm - November 8, 2005

  20. Yeah, like that’s not a flagrant, racist, unsupported statement.

    It’s called sarcasm Kevin. If you want a statement without the sarcasm, talk to Cindy Sheehan.

    Comment by John — November 8, 2005 @ 11:00 pm - November 8, 2005

  21. “controlled by the Jews…”

    Jebus. Ugly. Just plain ugly!

    Comment by monty — November 8, 2005 @ 11:01 pm - November 8, 2005

  22. anyone know if people like Lay, Kozlowski, Swartz or Belnick consider themselves to be Christian?

    I think you should have checked some of those names before including them on your list. On the other hand, I’m surprised you didn’t include Fastow.

    Comment by Frank IBC — November 8, 2005 @ 11:18 pm - November 8, 2005

  23. #22: Ah well, with the growing number of corporate officials laying waste to their own companies, it gets confusing about who’s indicted, who’s convicted….

    Comment by Kevin — November 8, 2005 @ 11:34 pm - November 8, 2005

  24. I don’t know what’s sadder, the Bush/Hitler graphic or passing of an Infowars article as news.

    Kevin’s right though. We never had outsourcing until Bush came along. It’s all his fault. We should have the federal government regulate businesses telling them how they should run themselves. Better yet, to make sure businesses are run right, the federal government should just take over all businesses. We can’t rely on the individuals to do the right thing anyway.
    It’s all for the common good of the People, right Kevo?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 9, 2005 @ 1:02 am - November 9, 2005

  25. #21

    It is. You would think that the all loving, all caring, all tolerant liberals wouldn’t play that card.

    #23

    How about those who lay waste to entire countries like George Soros?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 9, 2005 @ 1:05 am - November 9, 2005

  26. How about “No repeat attacks since on the US in the 8 years following the World trade bombing in 1993 as long as Bill Clinton was President of the U.S.”?

    As long as you don’t count Khobar Towers, the embassy bombings, the Cole………

    Well, how about moving professional jobs off-shore from the US? That takes good-paying jobs away from qualified people here; Helps promote unemployment in this country.

    Are you aware that France and Germany, which have some of the strictest protectionist and anti-offshoring laws, has double-digit employment (as high as 25% in some areas, we’re hearing)?

    Seems it has something to do with being uncompetitive, raising prices, and driving away consumers.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 9, 2005 @ 1:51 am - November 9, 2005

  27. #26

    I suspect that it’s all about protecting union incomes more than the worker’s.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 9, 2005 @ 2:04 am - November 9, 2005

  28. Most of my friends are gay liberals. I “turned” conservative a few years ago. A few months ago, in a group of about 40 middle-class gays, someone said she was worried about Bush sending us to concentration camps. Noone batted an eye. I was tempted to laugh, but it didn’t seem appropriate, and I didn’t want to mock her. Still, it’s not the first time friends have said they fear this.

    Comment by Baldy from LGF — November 9, 2005 @ 4:50 am - November 9, 2005

  29. So pathethic, Liberals in America worry about bogus concentration camps in America while Islamists have cleansed clean all non-Muslims in Dafur.

    Disgusting American Liberals. Disgusting. How can they defend such disgusting, selfish and inhumane behavior.

    Excuse me but my tears are shed for all those lives were cleansed out of existance by the real Islamist Nazis not some bogus 40 year old American idiot who lives in freedom to say this most inhumane, selfish and ignorant crap.

    Comment by syn — November 9, 2005 @ 8:51 am - November 9, 2005

  30. “Nov. 8th, 2005: 1519 days since 9/11/01 and Osama Bin Laden still not caught while Bush remains president; Bin Laden remains free to continue plotting against the U.S. and other countries”

    Because, of course, OBL is the world’s only terrorist, and all terrorism everywhere will stop as soon as OBL is caught.

    (How do liberals get so F**king stupid?)

    Comment by V the K — November 9, 2005 @ 8:54 am - November 9, 2005

  31. Kevin -

    I was referring to their religious affiliation, which you have presumed is Christian, not their indictment/conviction status.

    And you will probably assume I am Christian for saying this…

    Comment by Frank IBC — November 9, 2005 @ 9:08 am - November 9, 2005

  32. I thought a “concentration camp” was a summer camp for kids with ADD? :)

    Comment by Frank IBC — November 9, 2005 @ 9:10 am - November 9, 2005

  33. A few months ago, in a group of about 40 middle-class gays, someone said she was worried about Bush sending us to concentration camps. Noone batted an eye.

    You need to put her in touch with Kevin.

    But what do you expect when prominent gay Democrats like Mike Rogers, Mike Signorile, and Ann Northrop are saying or agreeing with stuff like this?

    Rogers implied that the consequences of a Bush win could be dire. He referred to “internment camps” that he said are being refurbished in Washington, Oregon and Idaho. “I know what happened to gay Jews who didn’t get out fast enough last time,” Rogers said.

    Of course, this is primarily to cover the fact that gay Democrats support FMA-supporters like Inez Tenenbaum and Robert Byrd, and call “pro-gay” and “gay-supportive” people who support state constitutional amendments stripping gays of rights. Worrying about Bush creating concentration camps takes the minds of the useful idiots off the Democrats who steal millions of dollars from gay causes and work against our rights.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 9, 2005 @ 10:48 am - November 9, 2005

  34. Of course, you know, it’s cool if Republicans use Hitler in their advertisements.
    http://right-thinking.com/index.php/weblog/comments/11011/

    Comment by Joey — November 9, 2005 @ 10:59 am - November 9, 2005

  35. I’m sure those concentration camps will be filled by gay republican staffers outed by the democrats.

    Comment by Frank IBC — November 9, 2005 @ 12:15 pm - November 9, 2005

  36. Not to mention Mary Cheney, the only gay/lesbian person that Kerry or Edwards have ever known.

    Comment by Frank IBC — November 9, 2005 @ 12:38 pm - November 9, 2005

  37. Speaking of internment camps on U.S. soil, let’s remember who signed the executive order authorizing them during World War II: liberal icon Franklin D. Roosevelt. As I recall, he was a Democrat, not a Republican.

    When the subject is Social Security, liberals talk about “FDR’s legacy.” When the subject of internment camps comes up, FDR is never mentioned by name. It’s always “the American Government” that ordered people into internment camps.

    Comment by Conservative Guy — November 9, 2005 @ 2:00 pm - November 9, 2005

  38. Franklin D. Roosevelt was also a great friend of the Somozas and other dictators throughout the Americas.

    Comment by Frank IBC — November 9, 2005 @ 2:25 pm - November 9, 2005

  39. #31: Thank you, I do stand corrected. My point, to be more specific, relates to how some people say one thing based upon their their religion yet their actions are a different matter.

    Comment by Kevin — November 9, 2005 @ 9:05 pm - November 9, 2005

  40. Well, I obviously made an impact, since people here just can’t let go of my statements. I’m talking of course about he continued “concentation camp” comments you folks are still making. I made my point about how peole in a democracy have to stay vigilant so it remains a democracy and we don’t drift into a fascist state where things like that happened. Sorry that some of you seem annoyed by this, but it’s true. We’ve been warned about the possiblity of this from people dating all the way back our founders.

    I’ve always found it interesting to be part of a minority that, even with the gains we’ve made over the decades, still remains the one real minority that remains ok to discriminate, demonize and villify. Of course, part of this is because we, unlike most other minorities can choose to remain inivisible if we want. It’s just sad to see this discriminiation, demonizing and villifying being supported by other gays.

    Comment by Kevin — November 9, 2005 @ 9:20 pm - November 9, 2005

  41. What are you saying, Kevin? That we need to remain vigilant so Democrats don’t return to power and resort to their old tricks of ordering American citizens into internment camps? Because it’s not the Republicans who have that track record.

    Comment by Conservative Guy — November 9, 2005 @ 9:54 pm - November 9, 2005

  42. I have yet to see anyone give a sound, logical reason as to why gays/lesbians/bisexuals want to support a group of people who would be perfectly happy to see us exterminated. Seriously, I want to hear a logical, thought out response to this point of view instead of “oh, that’s just an old argument” — Comment by Kevin — October 16, 2005 @ 4:51 pm

    I don’t read this statement as applying to some hypothetical fascist threat. It sounds to me like you were talking about mainstream conservatives. Because there aren’t any gays/lesbians/bisexuals on this forum who would support extremists who want to exterminate anybody.

    It was an incredibly stupid thing to say. You haven’t backed away from it, other than claim you were misunderstood. So, naturally, it’s going to hang around your neck.

    Comment by V the K — November 9, 2005 @ 9:55 pm - November 9, 2005

  43. Actually Kevin, you flatter yourself. My post #37 above was not a response to anything you wrote, but rather a comment on the American Left’s relentless Bush=Hitler nonsense. My point was that if Bush=Hitler, there should be concentration camps, but the last time anything like that was on American soil they were created by executive order of a Democrat, namely FDR.

    Comment by Conservative Guy — November 9, 2005 @ 9:59 pm - November 9, 2005

  44. Ah, but you see, Kevin, the graphic that precipitated this post says Bush IS Hitler. The prominent gay Democrats I quoted in #33 say that there ARE concentration camps for gays. You claim that gays are being “exterminated”.

    In short, you’re not warning us; you’re saying it’s already here. We’re pointing out that you wouldn’t know fascism if you tripped over it — and, given the gay left’s undying support of Saddam, wouldn’t care anyway.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 9, 2005 @ 10:03 pm - November 9, 2005

  45. Well, Thirty, I agree that Bush is nowhere near the horrible scale of Hitler (yet), but man does he seem driven to reach some level of ignominy, I mean with having misled us into a war that has cost us 17,000+ casualties so far, along with at least 100,000 Iraqis. I know, I know…you don’t think he misled us into the War On Iraq. But, then you’re among a dwindling minority of Americans who still believe that. You did see today’s WSJ/NBC poll, reporting that 57% of the American people now believe that he deliberately misled people to make the case for war, didn’t you? Wonder how high that number will go in the next year, with Scoots and Big Time eating up headlines every other day?

    Comment by Queer Patriot — November 9, 2005 @ 11:39 pm - November 9, 2005

  46. QP opines: “Well, Thirty, I agree that Bush is nowhere near the horrible scale of Hitler (yet), but man does he seem driven to reach some level of ignominy, I mean with having misled us into a war that has cost us 17,000+ casualties so far, along with at least 100,000 Iraqis.”

    As much as I dislike President Bush for any number of policy and political reasons, this Bush = Hitler crap is tired, inaccurate, and intolerant of other opinions. So much for the supposed “tolerance” of the leftists.

    Comment by GOPValues — November 10, 2005 @ 12:38 am - November 10, 2005

  47. And there, GOPValues, is the explanation for why Queer Patriot needs to gloat now; Saddam’s trial opens shortly, and he and his fellow Democrats who deliberately misled the American public about Saddam Hussein’s true brutality will need to explain themselves.

    His comments tonight are an excellent example. He makes much ado about the “100,000 Iraqis” supposedly killed, but refuses to admit that, in the decade that Saddam was supposedly “contained”, literally millions of Iraqis were brutally imprisoned, tortured, mutilated, and killed, for crimes as simple as being of the wrong race or religion or having a family member who was believed to be a political “subversive”.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 10, 2005 @ 2:29 am - November 10, 2005

  48. I think Kevin and QP are used to the leftist style of “argument,” by which you win points for making the most hyperbolic accusation, or drawing the most insane analogy. They aren’t used to the way right-wingers argue. The tools of fact and logic are unfamiliar to them.

    Comment by V the K — November 10, 2005 @ 5:30 am - November 10, 2005

  49. I am convinced that the human race is continuing to evolve (I know I’ll get heck from GAYPATRIOT for talking about evolution)… and that
    people like gaypatriot, and Cheney and Bush and Saddam are a lower echelon of homo sapiens. An echelon that sees the world like animals see the world. Like the jihadists see the world. Like the U.S. Marines and the insurgents in Iraq see the world: KILL OR BE KILLED. DESTROY. DESTROY. DESTROY.
    Imagine a world where militarists like gay”patriot” and Stalin and Bush and Saddam miraculously disappeared from the face of the earth. And imagine that only the builders and constructive citizens in the world remained. The doctors in Baghdad, the bridge builders, the meek, the empathetic, the cancer researchers… well, we’d be living in Eden on Earth. It’s a fact. So, if the militarist warwhores around the world are reading this, my message to you: Do the planet a favor. Kill yourselves today!
    Dan

    Comment by Dan Cobb — November 10, 2005 @ 10:10 am - November 10, 2005

  50. AFTER ALL, DIDN’T THE HEAD CHRISTIAN, JESUS, SAY THAT THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH? I THINK JESUS WAS REFERRING TO THE UPPER ECHELON OF HOMO SAPIENS…

    Comment by Dan Cobb — November 10, 2005 @ 10:12 am - November 10, 2005

  51. I refuse to socialize with L.E.H.S. (lower echelon Homo Sapiens).
    Dan

    Comment by Dan Cobb — November 10, 2005 @ 10:13 am - November 10, 2005

  52. Yeah, Dan, take another hit off the bong and enjoy your imaginary pacifist utopia. The rest of us will deal with the real world. (GCB, Heather, Kevin and QP excluded of course)

    Comment by V the K — November 10, 2005 @ 10:39 am - November 10, 2005

  53. Viking the Kitten:

    Thanks for linking Dan Cobb.

    Although, he sounds more like Evolutions Eve

    Comment by Ed Mahmoud abu Not Gay, Just Visiting — November 10, 2005 @ 11:47 am - November 10, 2005

  54. Although not gay, I did once get drunk in a gay bar in New Orleans, called “Oz”, with a friend from college who wound up working in same Louisiana city as I did in oil patch, who came out. Good guy, generally, with an “Impeach Hillary” bumper sticker, and a devoted fan of University of Texas athletics.

    Anyway, I met a woman at Oz who looked like a chubby Mira Sorvino, and we went out once in Dallas, she took me to a strange bar there called “Spankies”. We didn’t really hit it off, however. I didn’t like the way she abused my generosity with the bar tab at Benihanas, where I took her to dinner.

    I like Benihanas, BTW. I also like sushi. My wife had never had sushi before she met me. She’ll eat fried cattle intestines, but it took coaxing to get her to try it. She likes it now.

    Comment by Ed Mahmoud abu Not Gay, Just Visiting — November 10, 2005 @ 11:52 am - November 10, 2005

  55. Well, I obviously made an impact, since people here just can’t let go of my statements.

    Uhmmm…no. You made an impact with your asinine comments with nothing to back it up. Just another liberal ass clown.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 10, 2005 @ 12:23 pm - November 10, 2005

  56. How many times has Ed Mahmoud reminded us that “he’s not gay”?

    Comment by Gaylord McGay — November 10, 2005 @ 12:24 pm - November 10, 2005

  57. Gaylord

    At least seven. You’re not one of those heterophobes, I hope.

    Comment by Ed Mahmoud abu Not Gay, Just Visiting — November 10, 2005 @ 2:20 pm - November 10, 2005

  58. Add one for each new comment.

    Comment by Ed Mahmoud abu Not Gay, Just Visiting — November 10, 2005 @ 2:21 pm - November 10, 2005

  59. Do you like this nic better?

    Comment by Ed Mahmoud abu El Señor Didactico — November 10, 2005 @ 2:21 pm - November 10, 2005

  60. I live in Tampa and queertampa.com isn’t a gay rights group nor do they pretend to be. They have always included our Log Cabin group when others are quite nasty to us. They are pretty middle of the road until somebody pisses them off and are always promoting and supporting our local charities. You are screwing up by bashing them. Have you seen their pop-up today on their main page?
    Veterans Day Tribute On queertampa.com

    http://www.queertampa.com/veteransday.html

    Comment by Bo — November 11, 2005 @ 12:40 pm - November 11, 2005

  61. their old tricks of ordering American citizens into internment camps? Because it’s not the Republicans who have that track record

    No, they appear to support ordering American citizens into internment camps hosted in other countries, judging from recent news out of Eastern Europe.

    You old two-party guys are all the same. You’ll wrangle over which one of your turds doesn’t stink as much, delightfully biting into it and insisting it tastes like chocolate. Hitler imagery, homophobia — whatever it takes to win, Democrat or Republican, I’ve come to expect it.

    Comment by Northeast_Libertarian — November 11, 2005 @ 2:46 pm - November 11, 2005

  62. #60 — Gee, Bo, I guess that makes it okay for them to equate Bush with Hitler.

    Comment by V the K — November 11, 2005 @ 5:43 pm - November 11, 2005

  63. Funny a silly uncle tom like you would use SCOTUS decisions that are favorable to LGBTs as rebuttals to the assertion that Bush is bad news. Isn’t it one of your ilk’s favorite talking points to rant and rave against “judicial activism” and how the courts are out of step with what “the American people” (and by implication the Dubya White House) wants? Gotta hand it to you. You’re good at doublethink.

    Comment by fried-neurons — November 14, 2005 @ 6:45 am - November 14, 2005

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