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  1. “This graph has now been proven to be a complete lie and utter fiction.”

    Your statement is not true.

    “As Megan McArdle at The Atlantic put it quite concisely a couple days ago…”

    “I said before that I don’t think the emails refuted the notion that AGW is real, and happening. I still don’t–”

    Oh, did you forget that part of what she said?

    Comment by Tano — November 27, 2009 @ 5:01 pm - November 27, 2009

  2. Oh but you left out this part, “So why can’t, or won’t, the climate change community mount a more compelling defense?””

    Comment by Steven E. Kalbach — November 27, 2009 @ 5:04 pm - November 27, 2009

  3. Tano you remind me of that guy in Iraq during the first Gulf war that said everything is alright while US tanks were rolling into Bagdad!

    Comment by Dave_62 — November 27, 2009 @ 5:36 pm - November 27, 2009

  4. Your statement is not true.

    Indeed it is true.

    You see, Tano, the problem here is that your fellow “scientists” have repeatedly made up numbers and inserted them into their model to force this graph to assume the shape that they believe it should assume.

    In that case, there should be no problem whatsoever with creationists creating models that show what they wish to show and putting in manipulated data to prove that said models are right.

    Poor pathetic lying Tano. You simply can’t get anything right, can you? You and your fellow “global warming” fools are used to screaming and throwing temper tantrums when people challenge your lies. It’s not working any more, is it, poor pathetic child? That’s why you are destroying your “data” and trying to delete the emails that prove what liars you and your fellow “scientists” are.

    Do you ever intend to grow up, child?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 27, 2009 @ 5:58 pm - November 27, 2009

  5. “The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.

    “Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.” (emphasis and changes added)

    Every Liberal remembers Eisenhower warning against the, “military-industrial complex” but few if any know his second stated warming in that same farewell message, his warning against the, “scientific-technological elite“! 

    This speech could have been made last week, read the whole thing.
    David

    Comment by LifeTrek — November 27, 2009 @ 6:00 pm - November 27, 2009

  6. See but the mind numbed liberal robots ….all they have to say is
    “but but what IF the hockey stick graph WERE true, we’d have little time to react, so let’s tax ourselves while we still can!!”
    See facts don’t matter to liberals. A day after the fraud was uncovered, liberal Obama was still shillling for economic killing cap and tax.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 27, 2009 @ 6:26 pm - November 27, 2009

  7. Time to re investigate every liberal iniatiative.
    Recheck the stats for economic growth…is it really +2% or did they lie about that too.
    Is unemployment really 10.2% or did they fudge those figures, is it really 20%.
    Recheck the porkulus, and cash for clunkers, is it more of a disaster than they are fessing up to.
    Time to re check all the liberal stats. They lie to coverup the fraud.
    We need more whistle blowers to come forward, then we can start some prosecutions and perp walks.
    Oh btw did you see the pic of the frauds who crashed Obamas dinner, and the ladys pic with the boob Biden, totally clueless, hehe.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 27, 2009 @ 6:30 pm - November 27, 2009

  8. Lying is not part of good science, Tano. If the “concerned eclogical community” can’t prove its case with the Scientific Method and reproducible results… then it has no case to prove.

    Your green god (and I use that word precisely, as AGW has been exploded as good science and perforce must take its place as a religon) has clay feet… and half-baked ones at that.

    Comment by DaveP. — November 27, 2009 @ 6:31 pm - November 27, 2009

  9. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/joe-biden

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 27, 2009 @ 6:33 pm - November 27, 2009

  10. Shouldn’t the media be chasing ALGORE around shouting questions at him? Asking him to pay back all the money he garnered using this fraud. Isn’t he like Bernie Maadoff?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 27, 2009 @ 6:34 pm - November 27, 2009

  11. The most dispised and ridiculed occupations.
    Shouldn’t we now list LIBERAL SCIENTISTS in the same catagory as used car salespeople, polititians, and lawyers.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 27, 2009 @ 6:37 pm - November 27, 2009

  12. Remember just a week ago I think Tano and gillie were trying to say Obama ratings were still like 56% or 54%.
    Now ever the liberal Gallop has him in the mid 40′s.
    My have the mighty have fallen. Poof he’s gone.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 27, 2009 @ 6:39 pm - November 27, 2009

  13. #12: It should also be noted that Tano’s favorite pollster Gallup is reporting that an overwhelming majority of American adults want KSM tried in a military tribunal, 59% to 36% (a view Obama shared when he was still a Senator).

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/124493/Americans-Odds-Recent-Terror-Trial-Decisions.aspx?CSTS=tagrss

    http://www.breitbart.tv/bombshell-uncovered-obama-statement-ksm-will-get-full-military-trial/

    Comment by Sean A — November 27, 2009 @ 6:50 pm - November 27, 2009

  14. Here’s a surprise! Climate scientist says IPCC may have run it’s course.

    Comment by Sonicfrog — November 27, 2009 @ 6:59 pm - November 27, 2009

  15. what would a whisle blower hacker find if they hacked into a Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi computer. Not that I’m advocating that kind of thing.hehe

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 27, 2009 @ 7:28 pm - November 27, 2009

  16. Tano – look at the graph. It shows one thing: people are impressed by digits to the right of the decimal point. If they can measure the earth’s temperature within tenths (or hundredths!) of a degree, it must be correct!.

    Long ago, I had a college professor (electronic amplifiers and an upper-division instruments class – several text books to his credit) who had a near obsession with significant digits.

    One sure way to earn the professor’s ire was to write something like “I = 1.223 mA” on a lab report. He would demand that you explain to him how you knew this value within a microamp given that your instruments were accurate to 3 digits. And he wasn’t real thrilled when you “corrected” your empirical results to fit your desired results.

    The AGW people are trying to convince me that they know what the earth’s temperature was 500 or 1000 years ago based on a small sampling of proxies? They’re telling me that they know that some ice cores or fossilized tree rings are accurate to .05 degrees? Puhleeze. It’s an extrapolation. And don’t get me started on the timebase.

    Where I live, it’s obvious that the climate is arid. Indeed, it’s a good bet that it’s been that way for 1000 years (at least). But there’s no way to state historical precipitation within a tenth of an inch.

    The AGW evidence does not support the upending of the our political and economic systems.

    We live on a planet with millions of poorly understood climate inputs (including the big thing in the daytime sky that seems to be ignored by some climate models). How do we determine what’s “just right”? We don’t live in a climate-controlled mall.

    http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SignificantDigits.html

    Comment by SoCalRobert — November 27, 2009 @ 7:43 pm - November 27, 2009

  17. Thought Experiment: How would the media have reacted if, in 2005, a cache of emails were discovered in which Bush advisers discussed how to fake WMD data to implicate Iraq? Do you think it might have been handled a little differently than the MSM are handling the current email scandal?

    Comment by V the K — November 27, 2009 @ 8:28 pm - November 27, 2009

  18. #17: Well, V the K, in that situation, the Leftists would ironically get the inevitable apocalypse that they have preaching about all these years because the liberals would rise up in such an atom-splitting, sky-scraper crumbling, cataclysmic shrieking crescendo of outrage and hatred that the force of it would literally crack the globe in two, causing it to fall of its axis, sending both hemispheres spinning into outer space where we would all be incinerated in a white hot blazing inferno, igniting the Moon into a second, mini-Sun that would continue to burn for all of eternity. Consequently, impeachment would be moot.

    Comment by Sean A — November 27, 2009 @ 9:11 pm - November 27, 2009

  19. Step right up folks, no need to push there’s plenty of product for everyone.
    I am here to save the world friend and that’s just what I aim to do neighbor. Will you help me friend? Do your small part for your world and your children. For the low price of $1 friend. Yes! let me repeat, only $1, you can save the world with Al Gore’s Anti-Global Warming Oil. Buy it now good people before it’s too late. The snakes are drying out fast friend and do you know why? It’s Global Warming neighbor. Rub my Anti- Global Warming Oil on any dried up snake you happen see and bring him back to life friend. Remember we are all stewards of the land friend. We must help the creatures that can’t help themselves. Can’t find a dried up snake you say. Then just drink this miracle elixir and get stewed yourself friend, so you’ll be able to look at and live with your wife friend. Remember neighbor, I have here in my possession, a testimonial from Bill Clinton himself, on how my miracle elixir has help him live with Hillary all these years. Step right up folks. No need to push friends.

    Comment by Stopthepresses2 — November 27, 2009 @ 10:54 pm - November 27, 2009

  20. we continue to face the same kind of media mind-numbing blackout here in Australia. Instead of investigating the leaked information the LSM are continuing their scary stories about the wildest of scenarios that will take place if we do not introduce a crippling ETS that will cause all households an extra $1100 per year that they can ill afford. And for what benefit?

    At the same time, close to where I live they have opened a wind farm with the ugly windmills taking over the country landscape. Yes, it is ugly and I doubt that it will be of any benefit in the production of electricity.

    The truth is, NSW has a really good hydro-electric scheme called the Snowy Mountains Hydro-electricity. It is a clean way of producing electricity. There are other power stations that use coal. As far as I can see there is no evidence that indicates the coal powered stations have harmed the environment here in Australia. Victoria has always used the coal fired stations.

    At the same time the greenies got to work and prevented the use of nuclear powered electricity. Oh they carried on a treat about mining yellowcake, but they seem to be quiet about exporting the same to China and elsewhere.

    If we are looking for fuel alternatives e.g. through the use of something other than oil, then we also need to develop the engines and machinery to be able to use these alternatives. The production of smaller cars are not the answer, and neither is a car that partially runs on electricity. In a country with wide open spaces and lots of hills the electric car is bound to be a failure until such time that it can do the speed that will cut down travel.

    However, there is perhaps another answer for interstate travel, which is a must in this vast land – train travel, especially the very fast train or VFT. However, the environmentalists have also blocked that idea. As a result a project that was proposed as far back as 1987 has not progressed to fruition. If it had, then people could have a fast alternative to cars and planes when travelling.

    In California the environmentalists have continued their dirty work of destroying farms and jobs all because of some stupid fish which was probably not endangered in the first place.

    For too long we have been at the mercy of these eco terrorists. We need to continue to say no. The outing of these science frauds as a result of Climategate is just the beginning as far as I am concerned. We all need to be vocal to stop our governments from taxing us to death.

    Comment by straightAussie — November 28, 2009 @ 12:20 am - November 28, 2009

  21. I think any time you prefix a profession with LIBERAL or CONSERVATIVE, it’s time to take pause. Whether that includes liberal scientists from the CRU or conservative scientists from the Discovery Institute.

    Let’s just be sure to not cast dishonor on all scientific endeavor thanks to this corrupt crew.

    Comment by DRH — November 28, 2009 @ 12:20 am - November 28, 2009

  22. I think any time you prefix a profession with LIBERAL or CONSERVATIVE, it’s time to take pause. Whether that includes liberal scientists from the CRU or conservative scientists from the Discovery Institute.

    Except no one has ever caught scientists at the Discovery Institute falsifying data.

    Comment by Amy K. — November 28, 2009 @ 5:19 am - November 28, 2009

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  24. ^ Or barring experts with opposing points of view from publishing thier conclusions.

    Comment by DaveP. — November 28, 2009 @ 8:20 am - November 28, 2009

  25. If in fact we are now in a ten year period of global cooling shouldn’t we all be running our lawn movers and char grills for extra long periods and maybe we could save ourselves from a coming ice age?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 28, 2009 @ 12:58 pm - November 28, 2009

  26. This fraud does explain why the most ardent and vocal man made global warming advocates have the largest mansions, GORE EDWARDS, and the most airplane miles and largest carbon footprints. I always wondered why Gore if he was so terrified of the comming distruction of earth would fly so much, drive in his SUV carravans so much, and live in such splendor in his mansions. Now we know why. They all knew the fraud.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 28, 2009 @ 1:01 pm - November 28, 2009

  27. @Gene
    Gore is a flim flam man

    Comment by straightAussie — November 28, 2009 @ 2:41 pm - November 28, 2009

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  29. Hey Tano,

    Who has a problem with the e-mails? Penn State does.

    And a bonus to make Tano’s eyes bleed here.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 28, 2009 @ 11:29 pm - November 28, 2009

  30. So much for Jody’s claim that ‘all the data is available’ link.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 29, 2009 @ 7:56 pm - November 29, 2009

  31. Love this quote from the UJ….
    “Let me get this right. We have Leonardo’s and Tycho Brahe’s notebooks from the sixteenth century, Newton’s notebooks from the seventeenth, and we have Darwin’s notebooks from the nineteenth century, but CRU threw away all their climate data, already on magnetic tape, because it was “taking up too much room”?
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece

    The global warming fraud artists should be tried and forced to give back all the millions in research money.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 29, 2009 @ 8:17 pm - November 29, 2009

  32. Back in early ’07, the global warming hysteria hit such a fever pitch that I actually received emails from high school alumni who were appealing to us to have our 25th reunion inland rather than on Manhattan Isle. The organizers’ reasoning: they fully expected that global warming would submerge Manhattan by the time our reunion was scheduled to take place (2012). Needless to say, I won’t be attending. There’s a reason why I didn’t keep in contact with these clowns for two decades.

    Comment by Sharp Right Turn — November 29, 2009 @ 8:36 pm - November 29, 2009

  33. Can we say now that the hockey stick graph has flatlined?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 30, 2009 @ 9:57 pm - November 30, 2009

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