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  1. [...] drop: Waiver …Obamacare repeal document drop: Waiver-mania for all! | NewsNetUSA …GayPatriot » On ObamaCare, House Republicans Got the MesageRelated posts on repealHouse Republicans aim to repeal Obama healthcare law – Reuters …South [...]

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  2. It is much simpler to destroy things than to build them. I do love the blatant rhetoric in the bill title.

    Comment by Mr. Moderate — January 3, 2011 @ 11:51 pm - January 3, 2011

  3. Ah, yes, Mr. “Moderate.” The guy who invariably attacks the right and defends the left. Hence, declaring himself to be in the middle.

    Comment by V the K — January 4, 2011 @ 5:40 am - January 4, 2011

  4. V&K, good to see you again. I defend what deserves defending and attack what deserves to be attacked on the left or right. Funny how my left leaning acquaintances complaining that I’m always attacking the left and my right leaning acquaintances are complaining that I’m always attacking the right.

    Comment by Mr. Moderate — January 4, 2011 @ 7:59 am - January 4, 2011

  5. Imaginary friends aside, your positions on this forum are consistently, invariably, left-wing.

    Comment by V the K — January 4, 2011 @ 8:39 am - January 4, 2011

  6. Ah, Mr. Moderate. Goldilocks, I presume. Not too hot, not to cold, not too hard, not too soft, not too big, not too small, but just right. Always right. Impeccably right. Sane, balanced and unwaveringly right. Medicated, but not over medicated and not deficiently medicated. The daring master of balance. Drives half in the slow lane and half in the fast lane. Orders two meals and eats some of each. Spends equal quality time divided between women and men, cats and dogs, old and young, rich and poor, beautiful and ugly, short and tall, honest and crooked, smart and stupid, Eastern and Western, Godly and Satanic, abstainer and addict, responsible and reprobate, productive and lazy, and do-gooders and cheaters.

    In my little corner of the world, people like this are charlatans and they try to get by selling snake oil, but they are forced to move often and quickly.

    Comment by Heliotrope — January 4, 2011 @ 8:58 am - January 4, 2011

  7. In my little corner of the world, people like this are charlatans and they try to get by selling snake oil…

    Like the “No Labels” twits.

    Comment by V the K — January 4, 2011 @ 9:05 am - January 4, 2011

  8. “Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don’t have to prove they are citizens.” — Ben Stein

    The hypocrisy of the Obama Regime summed up in one pithy sentence.

    Comment by V the K — January 4, 2011 @ 9:12 am - January 4, 2011

  9. Problem is, all the fixes for health insurance care should be offered at the same time and in the same format. A flurry of short, easy bills all offered at the same leaves no question that the Republicans not only are against bad legislating but also have the solution, while exposing whether or not the Democrats truly want to reform healthcare. By just going for the repeal, they are setting themselves up to be knocked down.

    Comment by The Other Peter H — January 4, 2011 @ 9:15 am - January 4, 2011

  10. Nah V&K I just take each issue on a case-by-case basis and am more concerned with effective policy rather than if it comes from the left or the right, or “the correct” ideology. I don’t claim to be ideologically pure, even on the issue of non-ideology. I have my biases as everyone else does. I just really don’t care of a Democrat has a good idea or a Republican does. I just want good ideas. Which is where I seem to keep getting in trouble with Republicans in the last decade. They are ever more stringent in maintaining ideological purity than pursuing effective policy. That’s fine for campaigning, but I’m still not thrilled with that, but not for legislating.

    Comment by Mr. Moderate — January 4, 2011 @ 11:09 am - January 4, 2011

  11. That bill is not repealing the bulk of the reform, it seems to just be a repeal of the reconciliation act that was passed to amend the Affordable Care Act (the Senate bill). Or am I missing something?

    Comment by Mario Marin — January 4, 2011 @ 11:17 am - January 4, 2011

  12. Congressional Democrats who spent all of 2009 pushing ObamaCare while unemployment soared attack Republicans for putting health care repeal ahead of economic issues. To be a progressive is to have absolutely no sense of self-awareness whatsoever.

    Comment by V the K — January 4, 2011 @ 12:16 pm - January 4, 2011

  13. ObamaCare stifles competition and mandates fewer hospitals. A provision in ObamaCare effectively bars the construction or expansion of physician-owned hospitals that compete with corporate-owned hospitals.

    And we shouldn’t repeal this abomination why?

    Comment by V the K — January 4, 2011 @ 2:15 pm - January 4, 2011

  14. @And we shouldn’t repeal this abomination why?

    -Ban against pre-existing condition exemptions
    -Small business tax credit
    -Protections against recission abuse common in health insurance industry.
    -Remove lifetime caps common on more anemic health insurance plans
    -Covers 30 million more people than under existing structure
    -Reduces the overall federal deficit by keeping more people off of Medicare/Medicaid than would otherwise be on it
    -Provides a market place for low income people to have affordable health insurance that is not provided by employers

    There is plenty of stuff that is gunk in there, but there is a lot of good too. I have yet to see a GOP plan which properly addresses these major points above besides making high platitudes about the wonders of the free market fairies and all the benefits they would bestow to solve those problems if only they were never encumbered in the first place.

    Comment by Mr. Moderate — January 4, 2011 @ 3:54 pm - January 4, 2011

  15. -Ban against pre-existing condition exemptions
    Provides an incentive to not buy insurance until after you’re sick. It’s not insurance then, it’s someone else paying your bills. Would you want to be able to buy auto insurance to cover your repairs to your call *after* you wreck it?

    -Small business tax credit
    Better to not have ‘targeted’ tax credits.

    -Protections against recission abuse common in health insurance industry.
    Common? Really?

    -Remove lifetime caps common on more anemic health insurance plans
    a) Except where the government waivers it (playing favourites) and b) that people who buy those policies with caps know what they’re buying if they read it.

    -Covers 30 million more people than under existing structure
    Speculation, we’re already seeing it covering *less* people.

    -Reduces the overall federal deficit by keeping more people off of Medicare/Medicaid than would otherwise be on it
    Shifting costs, and the CBO numbers are already shot to hell after the first ‘doc fix’ was passed.

    -Provides a market place for low income people to have affordable health insurance that is not provided by employers.
    Define ‘affordable’ You already can buy health insurance privately.

    (Standard disclaimer applies)

    Comment by The_Livewire — January 5, 2011 @ 8:28 am - January 5, 2011

  16. Would you want to be able to buy auto insurance to cover your repairs to your call *after* you wreck it?

    Why yes. And the only reason auto insurance don’t let you do this is because they’re greedy… if I understand the progressive argument for pre-existing condition coverage.

    I was in the Emergency Room with my son yesterday, and he asked a nurse “Does it get depressing working around sick people all the time.” And the nurse said, “Most people we see aren’t really sick, they just want to be sick.”

    That’s why health care costs are out of control; as long as *somebody else* is paying for it, people have no incentive to control their use of the system. ObamaCare makes this basic problem much, much worse by incentivizing people to use health care more often without paying for it.

    Comment by V the K — January 5, 2011 @ 10:37 am - January 5, 2011

  17. [...] is why we comment Majority Leader Eric Cantor for his H.R. 2, the simple measure to repeal the unpopular and lengthy legislation.  Now, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s American Solutions has launched a web-site [...]

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