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  1. the only thing that she lacks is her ability to have taken on the media outright. Meaning, instead of working at FOX news she should have gone on every single station and talked about politics and defeated those freaks. Just like when she was voted # 2 in most FASCINATING PEOPLE OF LAST YEAr with BABBA WAWWA. I have to say though, that she was and is the most fascinating person 2 years running, but a LSM would never admit that, thus general petraeus was the winner last year.

    Comment by Jesse — January 14, 2011 @ 3:43 am - January 14, 2011

  2. I’m an Australian, and so I apologise in advance for commenting on this from the sidelines, but I don’t think Palin’s response was inappropriate or unwarranted.

    Fair enough, maybe she didn’t need to make it I suppose, because so many in your new media had already exposed the Left’s bizarre rants in this case, but she was being horribly and awfully attacked.

    I think her response was restrained and reasonable and warranted in the circumstances.

    Cheers
    Greg from OZ

    Comment by Greg — January 14, 2011 @ 6:09 am - January 14, 2011

  3. That video of hers was absolutely brillant. Perhaps the best political move she has ever made.

    Honestly, as a Palinista, I was beginning to waiver, flirting with Romney and even Trump 2012. The video brought me back to the fold.

    She truly is the living version of Ronald Reagan. And those of us who support Sarah will fight with her til our dying breaths against her vicious Leftist enemies, and even those within our libertarian/conservative movement who oppose her.

    Palin 2012! Palin Forever!!!

    Comment by Eric Dondero — January 14, 2011 @ 6:31 am - January 14, 2011

  4. “A homework assignment for aspiring speechwriters: Try to write an address titled “I Didn’t Kill Anyone” without sounding aggrieved.” – Allahpundit

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 6:39 am - January 14, 2011

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  6. If Sarah Palin said “good morning” and then announced the date, the time and the temperature outside of her house, the left’s reaction would be its normal spew of volcanic hatred.

    Comment by JPE — January 14, 2011 @ 8:03 am - January 14, 2011

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  8. She was forced to speak out, because it wasn’t just about her, it’s about the slandering of a movement, the suppression ofspeech, that is ‘deemed’ out of favor.

    Comment by narciso — January 14, 2011 @ 8:23 am - January 14, 2011

  9. I have to disagree; I thought she gave a good address, showing qualities one wants to see in a Chief of State. Under normal circumstances, I might have agreed with you, but, given the unholy, coordinated barrage she’d been under for days, starting minutes after the shooting, I don’t think she could have left this to others to handle. In fact, I have to laugh at Republican talking heads (largely on FOX) saying she should have stayed “above it all and let others defend her.” Well, where were they? Sure, talk radio and the blogs were there, but, where were the leading Republican figures whom we see day after day on the news? Oddly silent. No, I think she had to do this, and she did it well.

    Comment by Phineas — January 14, 2011 @ 8:49 am - January 14, 2011

  10. She has become better at handling the media today than she was in the campaign. She’s won every round with them since she stepped down as governor July 2009. But, in winning, she has made herself less presidential. She has gone toe to toe with the media rather than let others challenge their malicious (and often inaccurate) reporting.

    While there are problems on top of problems in this post, the most glaring is this one, which claims that Sarah Palin has been handling the media extremely capably for the past year and a half. Nothing could be further than the truth – she was immediately hired by Fox News and only talks to them, her co-workers and employers that have a vested interest in making her look intelligent and coherent. This is not what anyone can reasonably describe as going toe to toe with the media – she’s literally running from anyone that might her ask her a difficult question and hiding at the News Corp HQ. Toe to toe kind of implies some sort of confrontation, but have we seen Palin do another interview with Katie Couric? Have we seen her do anything with anyone not on the conservative media’s payroll? These rounds that you’re talking about… rounds with who? When were these rounds?

    Stop pretending. You know Palin would crumble if she were ever put in another situation where she didn’t have complete control of all the variables. Truly confrontational questioning would absolutely ruin her, and yet she’s supposed to be some tough chick that isn’t afraid of anything. Rachel Maddow would love to have her – do you think for one second that Palin wouldn’t be absolutely shredded in such an environment?

    The real truth of Palin’s media presence is actually completely embarrassing; she’s on Facebook! She does status updates! Did you see her tweets? The woman that so many of you would like to see as President some day has chosen the communication medium of the American teenager. It fits her personality and attention span so well – it’s brief, it’s one-sided, it’s completely under her control, and it’s shallow. Oh, and she’s got her own reality show.

    So of course, all of these things added together means that Sarah Palin has gone toe to toe with the media (she’s actually been walling herself off from the media) and that she has won round after round with them (her popularity has been steadily declining since she became a national figure.)

    As far as the blood libel thing goes – it strikes me as completely whiny and defensive after she’s spent years cutlivating this gun-totin’, straight-shootin’ image of hers. The reality in America is that we have shitloads of gun violence every year, and if she wants to use guns as political shtick, then she has to take the bad with the good. If you go around reducing human beings to gun sights, then you have to deal with the fallout when one of those people get shot. I certainly know how I’d feel if I was one a family member of one of the people killed, and it turned out there some ambitious politician had used that kind of imagery. It’s like a comedian making jokes about how old Abe Vagoda is – it’s all fun and games until, you know, Abe Vagoda actually dies. Then you kind of look like a prick.

    Comment by Levi — January 14, 2011 @ 9:08 am - January 14, 2011

  11. Levi just can’t help himself, can he? ROFLCOPTER.

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 9:14 am - January 14, 2011

  12. I disagree. The whole point of the attacks on Palin by the Left and their allies in the media is to silence her. It doesn’t matter how many great thinkers come to her defense. Palin had to defend herself against what is correctly characterized as a blood libel. The statement itself is the message. The alternative, remaining silent, would be spun by her enemies as some sort of tacit admission of “guilt” anyway. So if you’re presented with a no-win situation then you might as well fight back and defend yourself vigorously. Would Charles Krauthammer or George Will remain silent and allow others to fight their battles for them is THEY had been smeared like this?

    Comment by Moira — January 14, 2011 @ 9:15 am - January 14, 2011

  13. Which of the Republican “leadership” was defending Palin prior to her response? Steele? McConnell? Boehner? Romney? Newt? Huckabee?…Who?

    Comment by Gohawgs — January 14, 2011 @ 9:21 am - January 14, 2011

  14. Dan, you’ve described what has become known in the short news cycle about Gov Palin’s presentation/rebuttal to the Left’s exploitation of the Tucson tragedy as the “Dana Perino” approach.

    Just after Gov Palin’s video was out, former Bush WH PR gal Perino questioned whether or not Gov Palin’s video was a good idea… Perino thought that the various pro-Palin, media “”surrogates who strongly and eloquently and passionately defended the former Gov was enough and that the “Palin’s at fault” side story was winding down.

    Telling FoxNews on Thursday, Perino said “I think Palin should have stuck to maybe the first four paragraphs of her comments in written form, posted it on her Facebook page and left it at that… but, hindsight is always 20-20.”

    It’s always easier to advise after the fact –when the net effects of untoward actions play out their consequences for all to observe. I think Gov Palin was correct in her tone, her choice of words and her steely-like resolve in the video presentation.

    Give her the benefit of the doubt –the slurry of smearing falsehoods foisted on America’s public square by many on the Left was unprecedented here in its personal animus and targeting.

    Americans got it –they didn’t and won’t buy what the Left and NYTimes was pushing. Gov Palin isn’t Geo Bush 43… she doesn’t find any moral high ground in letting her opponents attack at will and she isn’t defending the Office of President, like W thought constrained his rebuttal of unfair or outrageous smears.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t… hindsight is always 20-20, eh?

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — January 14, 2011 @ 9:32 am - January 14, 2011

  15. Levi: “It’s like a comedian making jokes about how old Abe Vagoda is – it’s all fun and games until, you know, Abe Vagoda actually dies. Then you kind of look like a prick.”

    Um, Levi… it’s Abe Vigoda and his kids and grandkids and family would like you to know he’s STILL alive and kicking and acting. He just finished his 2nd Snickers commercial, btw.

    Not to quibble, but facts are damn sticky things sometimes.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — January 14, 2011 @ 9:36 am - January 14, 2011

  16. Democrats were in major meltdown when John McCain tapped Sarah Palin as his running mate just days before the Republican National Convention in 2008, in large part, because Sarah Palin was the change agent Barack Obama claimed to be.

    Can’t you support Sarah Palin without having to rewrite history?

    As I recall (and I generally align myself with the Democrats, so I should recall better than you), Sarah Palin was mostly laughed at, simply due to the fact that the Democrats were too strongly resurgent to take any opposition seriously at that point. There was a 1-2 point surge for McCain-Palin after the RNC, which made a few Democrats go wobbly at the knees, but most were level-headed enough to wait a few days for the post-convention surge to dissipate, which it did after about two or three days.

    It really wasn’t until 2009 and the beginning of the Tea Party movement that Sarah Palin began to show some of her strengths and the Democrats were forced to admit that she could actually pose a threat in her capacity to rally people around Republican candidates.

    Truly confrontational questioning would absolutely ruin her, and yet she’s supposed to be some tough chick that isn’t afraid of anything. Rachel Maddow would love to have her – do you think for one second that Palin wouldn’t be absolutely shredded in such an environment?

    Problem is, he does. That’s why Sarah Palin can at least say she’s smarter than her supporters. She at least knows her own limitations and tries to work around them, her supporters seem to think she has no limits.

    Comment by Serenity — January 14, 2011 @ 9:50 am - January 14, 2011

  17. This whole effort is total nonsense. There is no point to arguing with Liberal Democrats any longer.

    This is the same ‘Conscious Dreaming’ that Jared Laughner described. Liberals are desperate and irrational.

    They no longer feel any compulsion to face a logical challenge. They are willing to lie, to cheat, and to steal, if it means they can avoid the total collapse of their movement. They are unable to accept that it is already too late for them. The die is cast, and their fate is sealed. Liberal Progressivism is ‘totally F***ed’, and there is nothing they can do about it.

    :-) After 2012, Democrats will be in political exile for at least a decade.

    ——————–

    “In war, the end justifies almost any means.”

    - Saul Alinsky
    .

    Comment by gastorgrab — January 14, 2011 @ 9:55 am - January 14, 2011

  18. #6: “The real truth of Palin’s media presence is actually completely embarrassing; she’s on Facebook! She does status updates! Did you see her tweets? The woman that so many of you would like to see as President some day has chosen the communication medium of the American teenager.”

    And yet all it takes is a Sarah Palin Facebook posting to send the entire White House communications staff into a scramble of messaging tailspins and/or for the Congressional Democrats to not-so-quietly “amend” the legislation Palin’s posting criticizes.

    That makes her one of the most powerful women in Washington, and she’s not even an elected official. If Palin were as irrelevant as the Left claims she is, they wouldn’t be so desperate to destroy her and neutralize her as a political threat. It’s that simple.

    Comment by Sean A — January 14, 2011 @ 9:56 am - January 14, 2011

  19. Brilliantly stated. I couldn’t agree more. My initial thought was that she needed to offer some sort of “public statement” – not to defend herself, but to make it clear that she wasn’t bunkered down in hiding. The Beck email statement (intended to be public or not) would have been enough if would have simply been offered directly by Gov Palin. Her defense was in good hands with any and everyone with even a nominal grip on reality.

    The video message may have been a bit much. Not to play the Chris Christie card, but it did seem a little staged and a little scripted; and it re-opened a debate which had for the most part been closed by all -save for the fully entrenched Palin-haters.

    I think Gov Palin certainly has a role to play and I think that role is going to change dramatically one way or the other in the months and years to come. If she intends for that role to evolve into one where people refer to her as “Mrs President”, I think she may need to find a new platform for taking her message public – and an appearance on Hannity Monday night is surely not the solution.

    Comment by T Christopher — January 14, 2011 @ 10:00 am - January 14, 2011

  20. Business Insiders List of the 50 most influential people in media. Sarah Palin #3, Glenn Beck #4.

    Conspicuously absent from the list, Levi and Serenity.

    It is to Sarah Palin’s credit that she is so clean the left has to make up sh-t about her in order to slam her. (e.g. “I can see Russia from my house.” and “She kills people with her voodoo graphics.”)

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 10:02 am - January 14, 2011

  21. Senility ignores how Gov Palin’s tap changed the dynamic, as has been shown in polling data and contributions.

    Leelie continues to whine, without any atribution. Also apparently when confornted with the ‘blood libel’ meme existing long before Sarah Palin used it, he does what he does best. Ignore facts and yell louder.

    Hush Levi, adults are talking.

    Comment by The_Livewire — January 14, 2011 @ 10:06 am - January 14, 2011

  22. **THIS JUST IN**

    GLOBAL WARMING ACTUALLY CAUSED BY HARSH CONSERVATIVE VITRIOL

    Comment by gastorgrab — January 14, 2011 @ 10:07 am - January 14, 2011

  23. Why are we talking about “incendiary rhetoric” when it has been definitively proven not to have been a factor in the shooting? Is it because the real culprit is mental illness and the Democrats don’t want to risk alienating their base?

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 10:10 am - January 14, 2011

  24. I agree with Dan’s post. I supported Sarah Palin for 2 years or so. Now I’m not a believer. I think she needs to tone down her responses, tweet less, lie low for a while. Dan’s correct that her critics have a tendency to hang themselves.

    Comment by Robert Oscar Lopez — January 14, 2011 @ 10:15 am - January 14, 2011

  25. I just had a major war with someone over the use of “blood libel”. Apparently is it a really big deal in Europe than it is here. I told him to bugger off, this is America.

    Comment by The Other Peter H — January 14, 2011 @ 10:18 am - January 14, 2011

  26. I think she does have to respond, she’s the Shadow President making all the smart speeches and pointing out the correct path for the country that the current inhabitant in the White House refuses to make.

    Comment by Paul in N.AL — January 14, 2011 @ 10:22 am - January 14, 2011

  27. Business Insiders List of the 50 most influential people in media. Sarah Palin #3, Glenn Beck #4.

    Conspicuously absent from the list, Levi and Serenity.

    Did I just hit a nerve?

    You don’t need to be quite so reactive though, I admitted her influence is strong, as much as I wish people would stop listening to her drivel.

    Why are we talking about “incendiary rhetoric” when it has been definitively proven not to have been a factor in the shooting?

    How on earth are you supposed to ‘prove’ something like that?

    Comment by Serenity — January 14, 2011 @ 10:23 am - January 14, 2011

  28. Staying above the fray, isn’t that what Pres. Bush did? It worked real well for him. What does “They took care of it for her” mean ? the msm see blood you think they are going to stop simply because Dr. Krauthammer and Ilk pointed out what everyone already knew to be true? Not bloody likely! She waited (i believe out of respect) for 4 days . How long would you have her wait to address these personal smears? the msm have made this horrific tragedy into an agenda. i agree with post #5 and i might add by herself ,without the help of the cavalry.

    Comment by Pam — January 14, 2011 @ 10:27 am - January 14, 2011

  29. Did I just hit a nerve?

    Not in the least. I am consistently amused by the way in which people of zero accomplishment manage not only consider themselves intellectually superior to a woman who has been a successful governor, who has written two best-selling books, and is a person of considerable political influence; but feel compelled to attack whenever her name is mentioned.

    I don’t care much for Hillary Clinton, but you don’t see me going to left-wing blogs and posting screeds about how rotten she is; day after day after day…

    And, I guess Insipidity hasn’t been paying much attention to the increasingly amount of information ruling out that the nutjob shooter was politically motivated.

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 10:45 am - January 14, 2011

  30. So someone using twitter or facebook is a bad thing, but showing up on television shows such as Mythbusters or Iron Chef is presidential behavior? Because I could swear that that the other day Obama was featured on Mythbusters and at least twice I have seen the First Lady on the food network.

    Comment by Khepri — January 14, 2011 @ 10:50 am - January 14, 2011

  31. #21: Pam, Sarah Palin can’t win with the Left or the MSM. While Palin waited to respond to the outrageous attacks being made against her, she was criticized for her silence. And when she spoke, she was criticized for making it all about her. Perfect example from ABC:

    “BOTTOM LINE: Sarah Palin, once again, has found a way to become part of the story. And she may well face further criticism for the timing and scope of her remarks. She is already taking heat for her use of the term “blood libel” (see today’s Tweets). In her video she notes, “President Obama and I may not agree on everything, but I know he would join me in affirming the health of our democratic process.” It remains to be seen exactly what Obama will say tonight, but White House aides say another goal of his address will be to lift the nation up in this moment, not sully it with politics.”

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/01/the-note-obama-palin-and-arizona-a-tale-of-two-speeches.html

    Comment by Sean A — January 14, 2011 @ 10:51 am - January 14, 2011

  32. #23: And don’t forget where Obama was the day before the disastrous mid-term elections–being interviewed by the producer of Keeping Up With The Kardashians (Ryan Seacrest).

    Comment by Sean A — January 14, 2011 @ 10:53 am - January 14, 2011

  33. What burns the left is not thar Sarah Palin uses FB, but that she uses it so effectively. Dear Reader’s speech in Tucson will be forgotten by next Tuesday, but the phrase “Death Panels” is still politically potent.

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 11:07 am - January 14, 2011

  34. What burns the left is not thar Sarah Palin uses FB, but that she uses it so effectively. Dear Reader’s speech in Tucson will be forgotten by next Tuesday, but the phrase “Death Panels” is still politically potent.

    You’re right, it does burn. A half-decent speech gets forgotten within days yet an outright lie remains ‘politically potent’ more than a year after it was proven completely untrue.

    This is why everyone hates you.

    Comment by Serenity — January 14, 2011 @ 11:18 am - January 14, 2011

  35. I guess I touched a nerve.

    I would put more like a pretty but ultimately empty and self-serving speech is forgotten more quickly than a phrase that has the sting of truth.

    Sarah Palin, once again, has found a way to become part of the story.

    Yeah, how dare she speak up when she was being accused of complicity in murder. Doesn’t she know Republicans aren’t allowed to defend themselves.

    hite House aides say another goal of his address will be to lift the nation up in this moment, not sully it with politics.”

    At which he failed utterly, because even though political rhetoric had nothing to do with this tragedy, he had to make “civility” (which is the new word for censoring conservative speech) the centerpiece of his address.

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 11:31 am - January 14, 2011

  36. And I say that civility is a code word for censoring conservatives because there no Democrats and no voices in MFM calling for civility when Bush was president. We are therefore led to believe that the use of graphic symbols on a map is somehow less civil than throwing blood at Condoleezza Rice, calling for the assassination of president Bush, or throwing bags of cement from an overpass onto buses traveling to the RNC convention in Minneapolis.

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 11:38 am - January 14, 2011

  37. Yes, Sarah. You are so right, Sarah.

    *handing her more rope*

    You are doing such a great job. Keep on going with yo’ bad self. Yes, Sarah. You are so right, Sarah.

    Comment by Vince in WeHo — January 14, 2011 @ 11:49 am - January 14, 2011

  38. There are no exceptions listed under Freedom of Speech. I have the right to offend others. :-)

    If i refrain from causing offense, it is only because someone has earned my respect.
    .

    Comment by gastorgrab — January 14, 2011 @ 11:56 am - January 14, 2011

  39. Dan Blatt, I gotta say: I really disagree with you on this one (and Rubin and Krauthammer). Palin has a right to speak for herself. And she has a right to do it on her own schedule. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to watch her.

    And if the standard is to be, “Well it’s a public controversy and she shouldn’t have kept it going by bringing her name into it again” – then what are you, Rubin and Krauthammer doing, writing such posts that keep the controversy going by bringing her name into it again?

    Now for a sidebar, a disquisition for a certain subset of GP readers. See people, I just disagreed with Dan (as on many past occasions). In doing so, I have not attacked his character; there is no need to. And I am not going to issue a series of demands now that he respond to me, or attack him further if he fails to respond; I just do not believe that my place in the Universe is so central.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — January 14, 2011 @ 12:18 pm - January 14, 2011

  40. “All the world’s a stage,
    And all the men and women merely players;
    They have their exits and their entrances,
    And one man in his time plays many parts….
    Except some people who are experts on what Sarah Palin should do.”

    Shakespeare: As You Like it if You Have Much Ado About Nothing.

    Comment by Heliotrope — January 14, 2011 @ 12:30 pm - January 14, 2011

  41. LOL :-)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — January 14, 2011 @ 12:32 pm - January 14, 2011

  42. What time slot is “Sarah’s Palin’s Alaska” in next season?

    Comment by Vince in WeHo — January 14, 2011 @ 12:38 pm - January 14, 2011

  43. We already know that Obama’s call for greater civility will have no effect whatsoever on the rhetoric of liberals. But it should also be noted that the events of the past week have done nothing to change how they govern either:

    Illinois Lawmakers Pass 66 Percent Income Tax Increase
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/12/ill-lawmakers-pass-percent-income-tax-increase/

    Comment by Sean A — January 14, 2011 @ 12:47 pm - January 14, 2011

  44. [...] Perhaps not an error but a feature. [...]

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  45. I think Levi’s comedian analogy in #10 is a good one. The connection of cause and effect is crystal clear. I declare the debate over. Palin uses a gun metaphor and someone gets shot its obviously Palin’s fault. A comedian calls Abe Vigoda old and Abe dies its obviously the comedian’s fault. Why do comedians hate so much?

    Comment by Grizzly Glenn — January 14, 2011 @ 12:55 pm - January 14, 2011

  46. Sarah Palin has the right to defend herself! !! Liberal critics were already calling for civility, code for SHUT UP. sorry too late. They will criticize her anyways. I want to say more but it has gotten redundant.

    Comment by very necessary — January 14, 2011 @ 1:02 pm - January 14, 2011

  47. I just had a major war with someone over the use of “blood libel”. Apparently is it a really big deal in Europe than it is here.

    Hmmm, reminds me of Dubya getting indignant heat in the knee-jerk British press for having innocently used the term “Pakis” to describe people from Pakistan. In the British context, “Paki” has long been universally understood as a racist slur and thus can’t be anything other than a very crude pejorative when it comes from the lips of a UK speaker. But Bush, obviously, doesn’t claim to speak UK English, and “Paki” has little or no baggage in US English.

    Comment by Throbert McGee — January 14, 2011 @ 1:18 pm - January 14, 2011

  48. God bless, Levi, he is so prone to absolutes:

    “Nothing could be further than the truth ….. not what anyone can reasonably describe ….. literally running from anyone ….. You know Palin would crumble ….. absolutely ruin her ….. be absolutely shredded ….. actually completely embarrassing ….. completely under her control ….. completely whiny and defensive ….. “

    How she can crumble and be shredded while literally running is perplexing. But in the world of the Magnificent Levi, absolutely everything is completely, reasonably and literally possible.

    Comment by Heliotrope — January 14, 2011 @ 1:19 pm - January 14, 2011

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  50. Yes, Sarah. You are so right, Sarah.

    *handing her more rope*

    You are doing such a great job. Keep on going with yo’ bad self. Yes, Sarah. You are so right, Sarah.

    Yes, Vince, we’re quite aware what gays and lesbians in WeHo are calling for with Sarah Palin and rope.

    As well as offering people the opportunity to shoot at her and demand she be raped.

    This is what makes the whining from gays and lesbians like Joe Jervis, Pam Spaulding, Rob Tisinai, Jim Burroway, Wayne Besen, and Evan Hurst so hilarious; they seriously cannot see the inherent contradiction between their shrieking about “hate speech” while simultaneously calling for Sarah Palin and her family to be raped, hung, shot — and die in a plane crash.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 14, 2011 @ 1:23 pm - January 14, 2011

  51. It’s like a comedian making jokes about how old Abe Vagoda is – it’s all fun and games until, you know, Abe Vagoda actually dies. Then you kind of look like a prick.

    But of course, Levi and his Barack Obama can call for Sarah Palin and her family to be raped, hung, shot, die in a plane crash, and otherwise killed, and that doesn’t matter at all.

    Seriously, Levi, we’re all aware that you and your Barack Obama want Sarah Palin dead. That is typical of the Obama Party and the Chicago way; they kill their opponents. You have rationalized in your head that Sarah Palin deserves to die because she opposes you politically. That’s why you won’t repudiate death threats against her and why you support your fellow liberals who are calling for her to be raped, hung, shot, and die in a plane crash.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 14, 2011 @ 1:27 pm - January 14, 2011

  52. I voted for Obama, I dont agree with most of Palins politics, and I hope she says “blood libel” again Monday night when she’s interviewed by Seam Hannity. I hope she doesn’t back off at all. Her speech will play better to people as time goes on because everything she said in it was correct. I especially liked the part where she stated the person that committed the crime is the one solely responsible, not society. I just hope conservatives remember that next time they try to blame “Hollywood”, tv, movies, video games, etc…. Lets call a truce, we liberals will stop blaming right wing rhetoric if conservatives stop blaming Hollywood.

    Comment by shane — January 14, 2011 @ 1:30 pm - January 14, 2011

  53. Levi and Serenity are the only voice of reason on this thread.

    Comment by Vince in WeHo — January 14, 2011 @ 1:55 pm - January 14, 2011

  54. “because she then re-injected herself into this and made herself the center of this, …”

    Pardon me? She was at the center of this from about 20 minutes after the shooting, when first the lefty blogs and then every bloody media organization started a campaign to pin the blame on her. Krauthammer observation simply ignores reality.

    Comment by Phineas — January 14, 2011 @ 1:56 pm - January 14, 2011

  55. Levi and Serenity are the only voice of reason on this thread.

    Can I buy pot from you?

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 2:09 pm - January 14, 2011

  56. VTK >> I don’t do drugs, smoke or drink. So, good luck elsewhere.

    ND30 >> I know, right?

    Comment by Vince in WeHo — January 14, 2011 @ 2:15 pm - January 14, 2011

  57. #16 Senility decrees:

    She (Sarah Palin) at least knows her own limitations and tries to work around them, her supporters seem to think she has no limits.

    I suppose that there are many leftists who do not have limitations so that they do not have to work around them. Or, perhaps they have limitations, but they don’t acknowledge them. Or, they acknowledge their own limitations, but they stumble around.

    Conversely, perhaps a person knows her own limitations and works around them, ….. but her supporters abandon her because she is not perfect.

    This very silly comment by Senility is the not unusual result of one attempting to pontificate above his/her/its pay grade.

    Comment by Heliotrope — January 14, 2011 @ 2:21 pm - January 14, 2011

  58. Please Vince,

    Levi’s fear of Sarah Palin is clear, and you’re honestly saying that Sarah Palin shouldn’t have said anything after being accused by hte left for being responsible for this man’s insanity?

    I find that laughable on the face.

    Comment by The_Livewire — January 14, 2011 @ 2:24 pm - January 14, 2011

  59. I get what you’re saying Mr. Blatt, and given any other time in our history I would agree.

    But after 8 years of watching GWB sit back and not defend himself against similar types of slurs, it’s refreshing to see someone stand up for themself.

    Comment by AF_Vet — January 14, 2011 @ 2:26 pm - January 14, 2011

  60. SHE DIDN’T NEED TO SAY ANYTHING.
    ___________________________________________
    AND $arah didn’t, all I heard was HEE HAW HEE HAW.

    Comment by DEO — January 14, 2011 @ 2:30 pm - January 14, 2011

  61. Serenity, please tell me how I’m rewriting history.

    Thanks.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — January 14, 2011 @ 3:27 pm - January 14, 2011

  62. [...] Didn’t Kill Anyone’ without sounding aggrieved.” Daniel Blatt thinks Sarah Palin made a mistake. I disagree in the comments. Power Line has a superb quote from President Lincoln about an earlier [...]

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  63. [...] Didn’t Kill Anyone’ without sounding aggrieved.” Daniel Blatt thinks Sarah Palin made a mistake. I disagree in the comments. Power Line has a superb quote from President Lincoln about an earlier [...]

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  64. Sarah Palin’s career would be over in half an hour in a jumble of word salad gibberish were she ever to appear on “Meet the Press”, “Face the Nation” or “This Week.”

    Palin also doesn’t have enough palms and Sharpies to appear in that press conference she’s never had since her 2008 nomination.

    “Fox News: Sarah Palin is an idiot ”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BXMv64EfU

    Comment by David — January 14, 2011 @ 3:58 pm - January 14, 2011

  65. Palin also doesn’t have enough palms and Sharpies to appear in that press conference she’s never had since her 2008 nomination.

    Obama’s Teleprompter was unavailable for comment.

    Why don’t you tell us how f*king brilliant Biden was for declaring we would begin leaving Afghanistan only to flip-flop in less than a week?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — January 14, 2011 @ 4:29 pm - January 14, 2011

  66. This very silly comment by Senility is the not unusual result of one attempting to pontificate above his/her/its pay grade.

    My personal income does seem to have become a topic of some debate here, because of course this is an American debate, and the American way of detemining the right to an opinion is based on how much money one earns.

    Serenity, please tell me how I’m rewriting history.

    Thanks.

    I already did. See that bit directly after chastising you for trying to rewrite history? That bit. Right there.

    Though if you want me to go even further, you said “Democrats were in major meltdown when John McCain tapped Sarah Palin as his running mate”. What happened was a slight bounce towards McCain/Palin before it went away, the McCain campaign collapsed, Obama won by 9 million votes, and the Democrats gained ~30 seats in the house and 8 in the senate.

    That’s a ‘major meltdown’? I think not. In fact, take a look at the link in David’s post above. The Democrats were in a major meltdown? Hell no! The Republicans (especially those in the McCain campaign, who later told their stories about what was happening back then) were in something of a panic, thinking they might actually have to scrub Palin and choose a different vice presidential candidate, because Palin was just not in any way suitable.

    Like I said before, Palin seemed to find her calling in life with her books and involvement with the Tea Party, but to imply the Democrats were scared of her presence back in 2008 is laughable, as she was at the time.

    Comment by Serenity — January 14, 2011 @ 4:39 pm - January 14, 2011

  67. Obama’s Teleprompter was unavailable for comment.

    Oh for the love of god, you’re still on this? The very first video I favorited at YouTube was President Obama speaking to the GOP House Issues Conference to bust this bafflingly persistant myth. Fast forward to 1:45 and play Spot the Teleprompters. If you can see any, you’ve got better eyes than me.

    So, 85 minutes speaking and answering questions in front of the GOP house caucus (an audience in no mood to ask softball question) with no teleprompters, and yet you’re expecting everyone to believe Obama can hardly form a single sentence without the help of a teleprompter? Be serious.

    I should emphasize that this all happened just under a year ago. The video is public domain and many major American news networks covered this event as well. Yet the whole telepromter thing will not go away despite have been busted so long ago. So much for civility.

    Comment by Serenity — January 14, 2011 @ 4:47 pm - January 14, 2011

  68. Fast forward to 1:45 and play

    Start at the beginning, watch the first 10 seconds and count how many “uhs” there are.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — January 14, 2011 @ 5:08 pm - January 14, 2011

  69. My personal income does seem to have become a topic of some debate here, because of course this is an American debate, and the American way of detemining the right to an opinion is based on how much money one earns.

    Poor Senility, for one so attuned to the intricacies of the American political system, you have completely botched understanding our jargon.

    I wrote: “This very silly comment by Senility is the not unusual result of one attempting to pontificate above his/her/its pay grade.” Keeping the theme going, I might have written: “You get what you pay for.” Or, “for what its worth….” or “Talk is cheap.”

    You reached a simplistic (read asinine) conclusion which I laid out in #53. You come back in #62 and totally side-step the point. Typical.

    My apologies for attaching “value” to your words. In an ideal leftist world, I assume the scribbling of an infant is equal to the Talmud.

    Nonetheless, Palin may well know her own limitations and work around them. Understanding that, it would seem that her supporters are right to think she has no limits. She compensates for her weaknesses. Real people do that. (I do not do surgery on myself. I hire the best person I can find.)

    She (Sarah Palin) at least knows her own limitations and tries to work around them, her supporters seem to think she has no limits.

    Comment by Heliotrope — January 14, 2011 @ 5:27 pm - January 14, 2011

  70. The very first video I favorited at YouTube was President Obama

    Yikes! I think someone, in addition to his/her/its other flaws duly noted in this thread, needs to get a life.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — January 14, 2011 @ 5:30 pm - January 14, 2011

  71. Start at the beginning, watch the first 10 seconds and count how many “uhs” there are.

    Or in order words “Oh shit, she’s got me there, time for a distraction”.

    You reached a simplistic (read asinine) conclusion which I laid out in #53. You come back in #62 and totally side-step the point. Typical.

    Frankly the rest of your post looked like nothing more than nonsensical ramblings, and since you ended on a pathetic ad hominem anyway, I felt no obligation to try and find a point in it. Your latest post seems very similar, so I’ll just respond to the parts that make sense.

    My apologies for attaching “value” to your words. In an ideal leftist world, I assume the scribbling of an infant is equal to the Talmud.

    Oh, so that’s why you used pay grades as your measuring stick, since we all know Kim Kardashian is so much smarter than all those scientists and professors.

    Comment by Serenity — January 14, 2011 @ 5:38 pm - January 14, 2011

  72. The very first video I favorited at YouTube was President Obama

    That is either the saddest or the funniest thing I have ever read on this blog.

    Comment by V the K — January 14, 2011 @ 5:43 pm - January 14, 2011

  73. There was a 1-2 point surge for McCain-Palin after the RNC, which made a few Democrats go wobbly at the knees, but most were level-headed enough to wait a few days for the post-convention surge to dissipate, which it did after about two or three days.

    Pomposity once again tries to rewrite history.

    In the Gallup poll that was out over the weekend, among registered voters, McCain was up by four points – so not a lot, but better than he was going into his convention, where he was behind in the same poll – and among likely voters up by 10 points.

    And there’s more:

    McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican’s biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA TODAY poll taken just before the convention opened in St. Paul. Then, he lagged by 7 percentage points.

    In short, Pomposity got neither the time or the amount right — mainly because Pomposity was rewriting history to smear Sarah Palin.

    This really shows you how delusional and unfit Pomposity is. No wonder Pomposity is welfare-dependent; who would want something like it, who magically transposes numbers to make them add up to what they want it to be rather than reality, anywhere near their business?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 14, 2011 @ 6:03 pm - January 14, 2011

  74. [...] way. But again, this goes to her political prudence, not the propriety or quality of her remarks.” Gay Patriot:In fighting back against the slights she has suffered from the mainstream media, Sarah Palin has [...]

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  75. @NorthDallasThirty: I do forget how far you’re willing to go to try and catch me out. I was working with polling averages, I assumed you would be too but forgot you could find an outlier like that one Gallup poll to try and make the bounce look bigger than it was. Though that being said, there was another USA Today/Gallup poll that had McCain ten points ahead during September 5-7, so you really should’ve cited that.

    I was somewhat wrong in that RealClearPolitics shows the entireity of the bounce (from McCain’s first lead of 1 point through to the polls being tied) as eleven days (09/07/2009-09/17/2009 inclusive), not the ‘two or three’ I previously stated. Nonetheless, at the maximal extent of the bounce (09/08/2009) McCain’s lead was at 2.9 points, The bound stalled after this but held above 2 points for about a week before rapidly dissipating at which point Obama retook the lead and retained it for the rest of the election.

    So it was a 2-3 point bounce that lasted about a week before quickly declining and disappearing. Doesn’t really do much to support the Democrats being in a ‘major meltdown’ over it though. As I said, a few got wobbly knees and thought that the bounce was the start of a comeback for McCain, but I was of the sort to give the situation a week or two, only really getting worried about the polling if McCain’s lead persisted into October. It didn’t, Obama went back ahead, and won as you may recall.

    Comment by Serenity — January 14, 2011 @ 6:37 pm - January 14, 2011

  76. Your Serenityness, let us try it again, shall we? In #16 you write:

    Problem is, he does. That’s why Sarah Palin can at least say she’s smarter than her supporters. She at least knows her own limitations and tries to work around them, her supporters seem to think she has no limits.

    First, I assume that Her Serenityness means Dan when he/she/it writes “‘he’ does.”

    What follows is a pronouncement by Her Serenityness that Palin’s followers are dumber than Palin because they can not see that she (Palin) has limitations. Duh! An actual person with human foibles or limitations? How could it be?

    But then, Her Serenityness categorically states that Sarah Palin “at least knows her limitations” and, get this, “tries to work around them.” Heavenly days, what a concept!

    A truly intelligent leftist is one who either does not know his limitations or knowing his limitations does NOT try to work around them. That, apparently, would make his supporters smarter than he is.

    Kudos to Her Serenityness. He/she/it paid a high complement to Sarah Palin. Fie on Her Serenityness. He/she/it can not figure out that intelligent people would support a person who does not pretend to be a god or infallible or the harbinger of hope’n’change.

    Mere mortals: it isn’t nice to contaminate Utopia with common trash.

    Summary: Her Serenityness is not only a lightweight in the logic department, he/she/it can not quite comprehend the galaxy sized hole in his/her/its pontification.

    There is a definite trend here. Serenity, Levi, AJ, Dooms and others of past infamy all end up wrapping their tails around the flagpole to watch the hair grow around their @#%holes. Oh, well, others read tea leaves.

    Comment by Heliotrope — January 14, 2011 @ 7:23 pm - January 14, 2011

  77. I was working with polling averages, I assumed you would be too but forgot you could find an outlier like that one Gallup poll to try and make the bounce look bigger than it was.

    Except the problem is, Pomposity, your polling averages never said what you claimed they did in the first place. Remember?

    There was a 1-2 point surge for McCain-Palin after the RNC, which made a few Democrats go wobbly at the knees, but most were level-headed enough to wait a few days for the post-convention surge to dissipate, which it did after about two or three days.

    Again, you got both the amount and the duration wrong. If indeed you were looking at “polling averages”, you deliberately lied.

    This is, of course, why you’re on welfare. You’ve demonstrated, not only that you lie and make things up, but when you are caught lying, you obfuscate as well. You simply are unable to function in modern society; only the welfare system would pay someone like you.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 14, 2011 @ 7:24 pm - January 14, 2011

  78. @Heliotrope: Done? Good. Let’s do this again some time.

    @North Dallas Thirty:

    Again, you got both the amount and the duration wrong. If indeed you were looking at “polling averages”, you deliberately lied.

    I wasn’t looking directly at them, I just went from what I remembered. As it turns out, time was not kind to this specific memory. Besides, this is a tangent to the original argument over whether Sarah Palin caused this so-called ‘major meltdown’ among the Democrats. Given that the exact polling numbers are not relevant to that, I’m not willing to talk about them any further. We know the numbers now, I admitted my mistake, the end.

    This is, of course, why you’re on welfare. You’ve demonstrated, not only that you lie and make things up, but when you are caught lying, you obfuscate as well. You simply are unable to function in modern society; only the welfare system would pay someone like you.

    Again, so much for civility. Rather than limiting yourself to attacking my points, you are unable to resist attacking me directly, trying whatever you can to denigrate me and generally make me feel like shit. I can only imagine what must have happened to turn you into the sort of man whose idea of refuting someone is to tell them they have no worth as a person within modern society.

    Comment by Serenity — January 14, 2011 @ 9:40 pm - January 14, 2011

  79. it’s posts like DEO’s that make going on these god-forsaken threads worth anything.

    thank you for the laugh DEO!

    hee haw hee haw

    Comment by Vince in WeHo — January 14, 2011 @ 10:44 pm - January 14, 2011

  80. it’s posts like DEO’s that make going on these god-forsaken threads worth anything.

    So, you take off your clothes and roll in poison ivy because it gives you an orgasm. Nice. Sanity comes in all shades of bizarre.

    Comment by Heliotrope — January 15, 2011 @ 11:51 am - January 15, 2011

  81. What amazes me is the people who hate Palin so much have so much to say about her. Normally I try not to let people I do not like occupy my mind since they are not worth it yet it seems that those who hate Palin cannot make her leave their minds.

    They also keep posting here, trying to troll and failing, making accusations against those who post here and moving the goal posts when what they are saying is proven inaccurate. It would seem that they love to fear Palin and come here to help play up their fantasies that everyone and thing is against them and that they need their own politicians to protect them from an unimaginably hostile world. Why else would they come here rather than staying with those who would agree with their every word? The way they attack us indicates that they don’t actually hope to win us over to their way of thinking.

    Comment by Khepri — January 15, 2011 @ 1:37 pm - January 15, 2011

  82. Well stated, Khepri. There are some liberals who are so smug in their “true understanding” that they comment here as a favor to the mindless little people that we are in their high-strung world. They are doubly delusional. They bask in their superiority and marvel at our stupidity. The superiority complex is not forgiving of those who do not step aside and swoon in praise.

    Comment by Heliotrope — January 15, 2011 @ 1:50 pm - January 15, 2011

  83. People can point fingers at how much the liberals talk about Palin.

    But, guess what folks?

    Look how the subject threads on this site about Palin often run longer than the average …

    And, the average poster on here is far from liberal …

    Just something to chew on …

    Or not, if you think you’re always right …

    Comment by Guilty White Male — January 15, 2011 @ 1:56 pm - January 15, 2011

  84. PUN INTENDED!

    Comment by Guilty White Male — January 15, 2011 @ 1:56 pm - January 15, 2011

  85. Rather than limiting yourself to attacking my points, you are unable to resist attacking me directly, trying whatever you can to denigrate me and generally make me feel like shit.

    And, as before, the welfare addict whines and cries that you’re making them feel bad.

    Guess what, Pomposity? You could have checked your sources. You could have posted the true numbers. Instead, you chose to deliberately lie because you wanted to smear Palin — and when your lie was called out, you chose to obfuscate.

    Those are choices, Pomposity. Choices carry consequences. And, as is typical for a welfare leftist, you don’t want to deal with the consequences of your choices; instead, you whine and cry and complain like a spoiled child, insisting that we should give you a pass because pointing out your errors makes you feel bad.

    Classic welfare leftism. And it has no value in today’s society.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 15, 2011 @ 3:53 pm - January 15, 2011

  86. This is a little off subject as it deals with the head of the Tucson Teaparty Trent Humphries Amapour of ABC was taping her show in Tucson today and according to Jim Hoft via Gateway Pundit Humphfies was speaking and someone apparently from the left Shouted out HUMPHFRIES YOU’RE DEAD
    The police arrested the guy, whoever he is . I could be wrong but I think Mr. Humphries has been staying above the Fray. no sarcasm intended

    Comment by Pam — January 15, 2011 @ 5:52 pm - January 15, 2011

  87. The only thing moving goal posts is ignorance and fear.

    Comment by Guilty White Male — January 15, 2011 @ 6:25 pm - January 15, 2011

  88. Guilty White Male, some of your comments here are difficult for me to follow, probably because I do not come here that often. What is your reason for posting here?

    I do not mean this in an offensive way, I am just trying to learn more about the people behind the posts so to speak. Your name also confuses me, but asking about that would be going too far off topic for my taste.

    Comment by Khepri — January 15, 2011 @ 10:24 pm - January 15, 2011

  89. Khepri >> Just blowing off steam sometimes. I’m sick of hearing the “moving goal-posts” reference from The Live Wire, as she just throws it out arbitrarily in the middle of a discussion. It’s annoying.

    The name is ironic and has a ring to it. I’ve heard people on the right accuse those on the left of feeling guilty about being white, among other things.

    Comment by Guilty White Male — January 16, 2011 @ 2:02 am - January 16, 2011

  90. Pam >> That “someone” was Eric Fuller, who was shot during the massacre. He also said “You’re all whores.”

    The man has mental issues and was disturbed by being shot at in public.

    Comment by Guilty White Male — January 16, 2011 @ 2:45 am - January 16, 2011

  91. The man has mental issues and was disturbed by being shot at in public.

    Funny, none of which stopped the Obama Party from employing him or parading him on their news media like MSNBC, Democracy NOW!, and Media Matters to attack Sarah Palin and demand that she be imprisoned.

    I think it then fair to state that the Obama Party deliberately employs and exploits the mentally ill for political purposes.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 17, 2011 @ 11:10 am - January 17, 2011

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