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  1. Can’t we just be good and kind to each other? Isn’t faith in love and honesty and kindness all any of us really need?

    Except for Carrie Prejean, I guess.

    Comment by V the K — May 1, 2012 @ 5:40 am - May 1, 2012

  2. Dan Savage’s apology for calling the walk-out “pansy-assed”.

    Dan, weren’t you on this exact same blog a few months ago talking about how Rush Limbaugh had already apologized for his infamous ‘slut’ comments and thus we should stop criticizing him for it?

    You know the Limbaugh-haters should have left well enough alone when the talker apologized. I think that’s called quitting when you’re ahead, right? Well, as they continue to demonize the popular broadcaster, his standing among conservatives will only strengthen.

    So maybe it’s time to leave it, lest someone start calling you the hypocrite.

    Comment by Serenity — May 1, 2012 @ 8:28 am - May 1, 2012

  3. And nothing says sincerity like a heavily qualified apology issued after a round of negative publicity.

    Comment by V the K — May 1, 2012 @ 8:39 am - May 1, 2012

  4. So, now the story about Dan Savage becomes about B.Daniel Blatt instead.

    Comment by Richard Bell — May 1, 2012 @ 9:22 am - May 1, 2012

  5. I agree with something Perez Hilton said??????…

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Uh=gh~~~~~~~~ feeLing A bIt qUeAzzy……

    Comment by sonicfrog — May 1, 2012 @ 10:30 am - May 1, 2012

  6. Of course there is no need for Savage to address bullying.

    He presentation could have been refined and structured better for the gathering of high school journalists.

    But hey. . .here is a story from Utah about the tragic effects of bullying

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54018293-78/bullying-gay-reese-edmonds.html.csp

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 11:16 am - May 1, 2012

  7. His presentation. . .oops

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 11:18 am - May 1, 2012

  8. An interesting post by a young Christian writer

    http://m.christianpost.com/news/day-of-silence-revisited–73597/

    In April, two competing events are held between LGBT students (and their allies) and Christian youth in high schools across the country: The Day of Silence and the Day of Dialogue. The former spearheaded by a homosexual educational group, the latter by a well-known Christian public policy organization. LGBT students stay silent for their cause, while Christian kids attempt to persuade their classmates that being gay is wrong by quoting scripture. Christian youth, who are protesting, walking out, or not coming to school on April 20, are not providing solutions or helping those in need. Their stance “against” others only continues to inflict more pain on LGBT students, many hurting from years of abuse and bullying.
    Like us on Facebook
    In 2011, I created a bullying prevention campaign to help LGBTQ youth called Acception . It means to accept and appreciate differences. Accepting and appreciating differences doesn’t necessarily mean that we need to endorse another person’s sexual orientation, religion, political views, or behavior. It means that we need to love and respect each other, regardless of our differences.
    I am challenging all conservative Christians, both young and old, to 1) stop opposing people; 2) begin to dialogue with LGBT neighbors and classmates; and 3) appreciate differences and accept individuals as they are, not as you think they should be. In other words: listen, learn, and love.
    We are in the midst of a great cultural divide between Christianity and homosexuality, and the only message that seems to permeate in this conversation is hate. But Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. taught us that this simply does not work: “Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” For all those who seek a new direction, one filled with love, compassion, and understanding, please join me at http://www.Acception.info .

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 11:32 am - May 1, 2012

  9. Serenity, thank you for the link to Dan Savage’s pitiful apology in which he digs himself ever deeper into the muck and mire he is supposedly atoning for with what turns out to be a drive-by apology.

    Mr. Savage has got his butt rightfully and righteously kicked for his statements and tactics. A pro forma apology laces with snark and clarifying snark does not qualify for moving on. Clearyly, Mr. Savage is not about to wear any hair shirt or actually accept responsibility or blame.

    You fancy yourself to be of some modicum of intelligence. Why would you present such a farcical bit of narcissistic dribble as worthy?

    Comment by heliotrope — May 1, 2012 @ 12:06 pm - May 1, 2012

  10. @V the K & heliotrope: Unsurprisingly you respond with almost exactly what your left-wing opponents said to Rush Limbaugh’s apology. Particularly amusing with V the K’s response, which could literally be copied and pasted directly from that earlier debate. It’s amusing to be on the other side of this sort of debate now, though I strongly doubt I care about this as much as you cared about the earlier debate.

    Comment by Serenity — May 1, 2012 @ 12:33 pm - May 1, 2012

  11. Challenging us? The EU and Russia have rejected the premises behind the social activism of the APAs/ABA and the Swedish model in the interest of children. I do not recall them citing the Bible.

    Comment by rjligier — May 1, 2012 @ 1:58 pm - May 1, 2012

  12. Wow, how screwed up does a situation have to be when Perez freaking Hilton is the voice of reason?

    Comment by Cy — May 1, 2012 @ 2:23 pm - May 1, 2012

  13. Cy… Yea… Maybe it IS the End Times!!! :-)

    Comment by sonicfrog — May 1, 2012 @ 2:59 pm - May 1, 2012

  14. Someone stated that a pastor would never bully or be anti gay in a religious setting

    http://www.bbcfnc.org/seniorpastor.php

    TRANSCRIPT: “So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, “Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do,” you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed.
    Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok? You are not going to act like that. You were made by God to be a male and you are going to be a male. And when your daughter starts acting to Butch you reign her in. And you say, “Oh, no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play them to the glory of God. But sometimes you are going to act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl and that means you are going to be beautiful. You are going to be attractive. You are going to dress yourself up.”
    You say, “Can I take charge like that as a parent?”

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 3:28 pm - May 1, 2012

  15. Missed the last sentence in the transcript of the pastor’s sermon

    TRANSCRIPT: “So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, “Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do,” you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed.
    Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok? You are not going to act like that. You were made by God to be a male and you are going to be a male. And when your daughter starts acting to Butch you reign her in. And you say, “Oh, no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play them to the glory of God. But sometimes you are going to act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl and that means you are going to be beautiful. You are going to be attractive. You are going to dress yourself up.”
    You say, “Can I take charge like that as a parent?”
    Yeah, you can. You are authorized. I just gave you a special dispensation this morning to do that.”

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 3:30 pm - May 1, 2012

  16. 14.Someone stated that a pastor would never bully or be anti gay in a religious setting

    Really? Someone? Name, cite, and quote, please.

    15.Missed the last sentence in the transcript of the pastor’s sermon

    Nope, sorry rusty. You have to provide a real link with the whole transcript. Your link doesn’t have anything of the sort on it.

    Now, let’s post some more quotes of gay and lesbian community leader Dan Savage as conveniently stored here.

    Now, let’s think about what rusty would be doing if a pastor had said he wished all gays were dead.

    Let’s think about what rusty would be doing if a pastor had said gays should be dragged behind pickup trucks.

    Let’s think about rusty would be doing if a pastor had been caught deliberately trying to pass on a dangerous infectious disease to gay people.

    Is rusty doing any of those things with Dan Savage?

    Hell no.

    So you see, rusty doesn’t care what’s being said, doesn’t care about violence, doesn’t care about threatening people, doesn’t care about any of that if the right person is doing it.

    But then rusty comes here and tries to demand that all of us do piety dances over things over which he doesn’t give a damn and even endorses and supports himself.

    This is exploitation, pure and simple. This is someone trying to manipulate people by appealing to values that he doesn’t have, doesn’t respect, and at which he openly scoffs.

    This is where treating people with decency fails. rusty and his fellow bigots like Dan Savage do not accept decency. They do not respect decency. They do not follow decency. They simply prey on decent people.

    You and your fellow pigs like Dan Savage, rusty, have exhausted the respect and consideration that you have given. You have made it clear that not only will you not reciprocate respect and consideration, but that you actively take it as carte blanche to abuse people further. You have made it clear with your squirming away from criticizing Islam and full-bore criticism of Christianity and Judaism that gay and lesbian people like you are animals who only respect power and pain.

    So don’t be surprised when you are treated like animals. Don’t be surprised when parents will do anything to keep their child from turning out like you. Don’t be surprised when people treat your relationships as being less.

    Because that’s how you’ve made it clear that you will treat others.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 1, 2012 @ 3:55 pm - May 1, 2012

  17. I am willing to bet there is an inverse correlation between a person’s Christian religiosity and his propensity to bully. Evan Hurst and Dan Savage can’t produce any examples of Christians being exhorted by church leaders to bully or commit violence against gays. As longs as they can’t, they should STFU.

    Comment by V the K — April 28, 2012 @ 8:02 pm – April 28, 2012

    http://www.gaypatriot.net/?comments_popup=47314

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 4:12 pm - May 1, 2012

  18. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/01/north-carolina-pastor-sea_n_1468618.html

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 4:23 pm - May 1, 2012

  19. smooches. . .miss rita beads. blessing to you!

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 4:27 pm - May 1, 2012

  20. Nice try, rusty.

    First, you’ll notice something there; nowhere is that pastor calling for violence against gays. He is speaking to how parents discipline and raise their children. The two are not synonymous.

    Furthermore, you’ll notice the hilarious stereotype that the Huffington Post tries to pull to generalize it, which is that acting feminine is synonymous with being gay, and acting masculine is synonymous with being lesbian. Is that really true?

    Last up, piecemeal quotes are not going to do it. Whole transcript, whole sermon. You demanded the same thing of Breitbart; you can be held to the same.

    Now, I repeat myself:

    Now, let’s think about what rusty would be doing if a pastor had said he wished all gays were dead.

    Let’s think about what rusty would be doing if a pastor had said gays should be dragged behind pickup trucks.

    Let’s think about rusty would be doing if a pastor had been caught deliberately trying to pass on a dangerous infectious disease to gay people.

    Is rusty doing any of those things with Dan Savage?

    Hell no.

    So you see, rusty doesn’t care what’s being said, doesn’t care about violence, doesn’t care about threatening people, doesn’t care about any of that if the right person is doing it.

    But then rusty comes here and tries to demand that all of us do piety dances over things over which he doesn’t give a damn and even endorses and supports himself.

    This is exploitation, pure and simple. This is someone trying to manipulate people by appealing to values that he doesn’t have, doesn’t respect, and at which he openly scoffs.

    This is where treating people with decency fails. rusty and his fellow bigots like Dan Savage do not accept decency. They do not respect decency. They do not follow decency. They simply prey on decent people.

    You and your fellow pigs like Dan Savage, rusty, have exhausted the respect and consideration that you have given. You have made it clear that not only will you not reciprocate respect and consideration, but that you actively take it as carte blanche to abuse people further. You have made it clear with your squirming away from criticizing Islam and full-bore criticism of Christianity and Judaism that gay and lesbian people like you are animals who only respect power and pain.

    So don’t be surprised when you are treated like animals. Don’t be surprised when parents will do anything to keep their child from turning out like you. Don’t be surprised when people treat your relationships as being less.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 1, 2012 @ 4:36 pm - May 1, 2012

  21. And why are the parents being encouraged to redirect their children? What is the pupose or the intent behind this ‘discipline’

    Good g-d. NDT. How I love a good pretzle.

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 4:43 pm - May 1, 2012

  22. Oh and NDT. . .just for the record

    This is my stern, shake my finger at Dan Savage

    http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l569/rusty98119/8e5d1394.jpg

    Dan, really poor choice on picking on those High school students.
    It was good to hear your apology.
    No need to get cross. Best of luck with your future speaking engagements.

    And Dan Savage, thank you for igniting the It Gets Better project.
    Such a diverse range of folk have created special messages.

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 4:51 pm - May 1, 2012

  23. And why are the parents being encouraged to redirect their children? What is the pupose or the intent behind this ‘discipline’

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 4:43 pm – May 1, 2012

    Reread the quote, rusty.

    “So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, “Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do,” you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed.

    Why on earth would you support parents uploading things to YouTube that make their child look like an idiot and are likely to subject them to bullying?

    Better yet, why on earth would you have parents deliberately encouraging their child to act like that?

    There’s nothing wrong with parents reinforcing gender roles. If you’re beating the crap out of your child, that’s one thing, but why is it necessary for you to push your “boys acting like boys and girls acting like girls is bad” worldview?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 1, 2012 @ 5:05 pm - May 1, 2012

  24. That’s the best rusty’s vast reserve of left-wing propaganda sites to cut-and-paste from can come up with an example of a Christian calling for violence against teh gheys?

    Once again, I have won teh innnernetz!

    Comment by V the K — May 1, 2012 @ 5:21 pm - May 1, 2012

  25. Damn I hate it when your both right!

    Ah well smooches to you both

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 5:25 pm - May 1, 2012

  26. You’re not your. . .ooopsey

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 5:26 pm - May 1, 2012

  27. Serenity,

    You framed the argument which you pursue. I did not take up your argument, I read your link to Savage’s apology and there I found a pile of steaming crap.

    Now, you have returned with your original fallacious argument. But you do not attempt to defend what Savage said in his non-apology.

    Here is where it stands: 1) Rush Limbaugh was pressured to apologize for his words he chose and chose to use. 2) Limbaugh apologized for his words and choosing to use them. 3) Leftists refused to accept the apology. 4) Dan Savage made several attacks on students and Chrisitanity and the Bible in an anti-bullying address. 5.) Dan Savage was slammed for both his remarks and his hypocrisy as a role model. 6.) Savage made a non-apology by changing the facts and focus and selectively “apologizing” for small indiscretions that he created out of whole cloth. 7.) I could deconstruct his apology in a thrice, but it is too obvious and too lame to be worth the space.

    Now you are back saying that there is an equivalence between the attack Dan Savage made on the high school students, Christianity and the Bible and Rush Limbaugh using the word “slut” in reference to an unmarried law student who was demanding free, government paid contraception in a staged Congressional hearing where she invented facts and data to promote the pregnancy-safe use of her vagina. And, mind you, Sandra Fluke was also pushing the attack on the Catholic Church.

    Now, let me explain this to you, Serenity.

    You are trying to compare the bite a a gadfly (Limbaugh) to the lurking crocodile (Savage) going for the jugular of the wildebeest calf as it tries to pass by. And then you waddle back to Mr. Computer and try to sell the Crocodile tears as equivalent of the Rush Limbaugh admission that he erred and that he should never have gone to that level. (That level being where Letterman, Stewart, countless Democrat Congresspersons and others dwell regularly and with much approval from their minions.)

    You not only feign to have a case of equivalence, but you so lack any sense of proportion that you insist on being seen as the world’s tallest midget.

    You could not make any possible inference of equivalence between the Limbaugh situation and the Savage situation. It would be painful to watch you try. It would be even more painful to attempt to follow your reasoning.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 1, 2012 @ 5:29 pm - May 1, 2012

  28. There’s nothing wrong with parents reinforcing gender roles.

    That’s hate speech to our pals on the left.

    Comment by V the K — May 1, 2012 @ 5:40 pm - May 1, 2012

  29. Seems like socons were able to bully Grenell into resigning from Romney’s team. . . More to come

    But wait, lets see who comes up first with ‘they weren’t being mean’

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 5:41 pm - May 1, 2012

  30. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/exclusive-richard-grenell-hounded-from-romney-campaign-by-anti-gay-conservatives/2012/05/01/gIQAccGcuT_blog.html

    Ms J Rubins

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 5:45 pm - May 1, 2012

  31. And again, Rusty dodges the issue of Savage.

    As to his last link.
    per Ace.

    Commenters point out, correctly, that we actually have no evidence of an “uproar” over Grenell.

    We don’t know why he chose to resign; not exactly. Romney wasn’t using him, putting him out there, and perhaps that was over concerns about how he’d be received.

    Apart from the two pieces Rubin links to, we don’t know of any “social conservative uproar.”

    Honestly, I never heard of such an uproar. Can an uproar occur in quiet?

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 1, 2012 @ 6:05 pm - May 1, 2012

  32. Chris Barron on Grenell

    It’s a sad day in America when the best and brightest are unable to do their jobs because a few on the fringe are fascinated with their personal lives. It seems that Bryan Fischer, Tony Perkins and their crowd are more interested in making sure that gay people can’t work in this country than having the best people work to keep our country safe. It is a great loss for the Romney campaign and for our country, and a truly sad commentary on the depths that the anti-gay for pay industry in this country will go to push their bigoted agenda. For these people, not even national security trumps their anti-gay agenda

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 6:07 pm - May 1, 2012

  33. From National Journal

    “A source close to the Romney campaign denied that Grenell resigned because of complaints about his sexual orientation. Rather, the source said, Grenell had become a story himself, which a spokesman should never do.”

    It’s ok Rusty, don’t let me get in the way of your narrative.

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 1, 2012 @ 6:13 pm - May 1, 2012

  34. Yes LW I am secretly writing for both Rubin and Barron.s Yo u didn’t know that. It’

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 6:32 pm - May 1, 2012

  35. LW if you take the time you wil note similar writing styles when you compare Rubin, Barron and myself. Of course, this is all done with the ‘hands on hips’ style that is signature of both Rubin and Chris, but upon closer inspection, you will also see some of that suburb ghostwriting in those quips Grenell tweeted about Gingrich and Callista. But act fast before they get completely scrubbed.

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 6:38 pm - May 1, 2012

  36. Superb. Not suburb

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 6:39 pm - May 1, 2012

  37. Sorry LW, didn’t see your comments at 31. Hmm. Dodging Savage, clearly not. Just pointing out that there is a link between some Socons and there obsessive attacks on the MOs (not mormons – that will come later)

    Bullies are bullies and they come in all sizes. And some use the bible.

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 6:45 pm - May 1, 2012

  38. And like I mentioned back in comment 22, DS was WRONG to use such
    An gauge and tactics in the journalistic conference for high school students

    DS issued this apology

    I would like to apologize for describing that walk out as a pansy-assed move. I wasn’t calling the handful of students who left pansies (2800+ students, most of them Christian, stayed and listened), just the walk-out itself. But that’s a distinction without a difference — kinda like when religious conservatives tells their gay friends that they ‘love the sinner, hate the sin. They’re often shocked when their gay friends get upset because, hey, they were making a distinction between the person (lovable!) and the person’s actions (not so much!). But gay people feel insulted by ‘love the sinner, hate the sin’ because it is insulting. Likewise, my use of ‘pansy-assed’ was insulting, it was name-calling, and it was wrong. And I apologize for saying it.

    And again I salute Dan for the apology, hope it doesn’t get in his way for future speaking engagements and still am grateful for being so innovative in creating ItGetsBetter, an outlet for so many to contribute to the effort to reduce bullying

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 6:53 pm - May 1, 2012

  39. My advice to my minority pals who get caught in the affirmative action/diversity vice is to move on to quieter waters. When your friggin’ “status” begins to cloud your essential usefulness, do the boss a favor and take a hike. You are there for the team and if you become a target, the team is compromised.

    Think it over.

    I don’t know the details and I sure as heck hope that the man was not “forced out” because of pressure from imbeciles or weakness on the part of Romney. I prefer to assume that he saw the mud being thrown as a distraction and removed himself from smearing rather than to force himself as an unneeded diversion on the campaign.

    It isn’t fair and it isn’t right, but when you swim with the sharks you have to learn how to survive when bitten. First rule is do not bleed. Second rule is leave. Ask Herman Cain. He was convicted as being black while being conservative.

    It is possible, in my opinion, that the “Progressives” decided to make an example of the wayward gay. Not much different, in my mind, from Savage identifying the Christian students who walked out on his frothing diatribe as “pansy-a**ed.”

    I do not know much about the bowels of gay “culture” when it comes to crucifying one of your own, but it seems like the language used in an internecine way is the same as the most hurtful that is hurled by a true bigot. It’s not much different from two whores scrapping over is the most pious.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 1, 2012 @ 7:24 pm - May 1, 2012

  40. Commenters point out, correctly, that we actually have no evidence of an “uproar” over Grenell.

    I think it was one or two bloggers, that was it. There was actually, as Dan pointed out in earlier posts, a lot more wailing from the left about the Grenell appointment.

    I don’t think it matters much in the scheme of things. If people vote against Romney because he appointed a gay guy to a position and the gay guy quit, they’re idiots.

    Comment by V the K — May 1, 2012 @ 7:25 pm - May 1, 2012

  41. “Evan Hurst and Dan Savage can’t produce any examples of Christians being exhorted by church leaders to bully or commit violence against gays. As longs as they can’t, they should STFU.”

    Jimmy Swaggart: “I’ve never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I’m gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I’m gonna kill him and tell God he died.”
    video here: http://religiousfreaks.com/2005/11/17/jimmy-swaggart-threatens-homosexuals/

    Comment by rt — May 1, 2012 @ 8:47 pm - May 1, 2012

  42. But that’s a distinction without a difference — kinda like when religious conservatives tells their gay friends that they ‘love the sinner, hate the sin. They’re often shocked when their gay friends get upset because, hey, they were making a distinction between the person (lovable!) and the person’s actions (not so much!). But gay people feel insulted by ‘love the sinner, hate the sin’ because it is insulting.

    All this means is that Savage a) doesn’t understand what the phrase means and b) believes that what he thinks it means justifies his own actions.

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 1, 2012 @ 8:57 pm - May 1, 2012

  43. Even going back 7 years to the Swaggart quote is still a FAIL. He’s not advocating anyone else harm gays for being gays, he’s saying he’d personally commit violence against a gay guy who hit on him.

    Keep going back in time. Sooner or later, you’ll find something. Like if you go back to 1975, you’ll find this quote from an Evangelical Christian Minister.

    I just don’t like homosexuals. If you ask me, they’re all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia.’ The smile became so broad it pushed his eyes shut. He couldn’t stand it any longer.

    Ooops, did I say Evangelical Christian. My mistake, that quote is from liberal progressive hero Al Franken.

    Comment by V the K — May 1, 2012 @ 9:15 pm - May 1, 2012

  44. Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 6:07 pm – May 1, 2012

    Dan Savage on Chris Barron and GOProud:

    “GOProud isn’t a pro-gay rights organization, they’re an organization of gay quislings & useful idiots”

    Funny how rusty tries to quote those who he and his Dan Savage so easily disdain and attack. It’s almost as if he’s being two-faced and hypocritical.

    Oh, right — there’s no “almost” involved.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 1, 2012 @ 10:58 pm - May 1, 2012

  45. just curious Miss Rita, when your head does a couple of 360s, do you break your keystokes?

    NDT, I thought you were starting to be nice, but guess you’ve chosen ‘bitter’ as your color of the day.

    Comment by rusty — May 1, 2012 @ 11:13 pm - May 1, 2012

  46. Gee, rusty, I think “bitter” would better serve a grown man whose only way of getting noticed is to stand up in front of a group of teenagers, harangue them about their religious beliefs, and then call the ones who walked out on him “pansy-asses”.

    Especially when it’s supposedly at a journalism conference.

    Oh, that’s right, I forgot; being gay substitutes for competence and emotional maturity in your universe.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 1, 2012 @ 11:50 pm - May 1, 2012

  47. Rusty. I can’t help but notice your bad spelling & grammar. Publik skool?

    Comment by Bruce (GayPatriot) — May 2, 2012 @ 12:25 am - May 2, 2012

  48. Sorry about the grammer and my spelling, could blame it on auto correct,smartphone qwerty pads and oversized fingers coupled with dyslexia

    Guess it could be the publik school edumation Bruce.

    So sorry that you don’t post much. . . But I sure do enjoy reading BDB’s posts!

    Comment by rusty — May 2, 2012 @ 3:15 am - May 2, 2012

  49. Damn edumacation.

    Hey Bruce when are you going restart your video blogging?
    Loved it, brings me back to the dayz of Electric Company and SS Elmo’s World.

    Comment by rusty — May 2, 2012 @ 3:19 am - May 2, 2012

  50. You framed the argument which you pursue.

    You have no sense of irony. Immediately after this, you frame everything in your favour. Rush Limbaugh gets portrayed as sympathetically as possible, everything he said is taken at face value, media pressure on his is characterized as completely unjustified, and his actual attacks are conveniently glossed over. Meanwhile Dan Savage (and Sandra Fluke) get portrayed as unsympathetically as possible, with Dan Savage being being characterized as a vicious predator, Sandra Fluke as deceptive and with ‘loose morals’, Savage’s apology gets dismissed completely out of hand, and media pressure is characterized as obviously being completely justified.

    I do expect people to do this, but I don’t expect it to be as cartoonishly exaggerated as you made it.

    But you do not attempt to defend what Savage said in his non-apology.

    He apologized only for one part, the ‘pansy-assed’ comment. That’s the only part of what he said that I would disagree with, that’s the only part I thought he needed to apologize for, and I accept his apology as valid. I don’t even know what you want me to defend about it, I don’t even know how I’d start in defending it, there doesn’t seem to be anything I could add.

    You could not make any possible inference of equivalence between the Limbaugh situation and the Savage situation. It would be painful to watch you try.

    Too late, I already did it. If it hurt to read it, good. You finally feel how I feel. Besides, my rebuttals are not for you, they are posted in the hope that someone more reasonable will see this and be convinced.

    Comment by Serenity — May 3, 2012 @ 10:39 am - May 3, 2012

  51. Serenity,

    Your “sense” sense of irony is no more subtle than the neck of a giraffe.

    You compare two disparate apologies and find “irony” as if you are sophomore with a an important new word to parade correctly in a sentence.

    Fie on you and your pseudo-intellectualism. It must be very lonely in your cubicle to pick at nits and think you have discovered an ostrich egg.

    Limbaugh apologized. Savage apologized. The left dismissed Limbaugh’s sincerity. The Right dismissed Savage’s sincerity. The proof will lie in whether Limbaugh ceases and desists and whether Savage ceases and desists. However, it is academically valid to parse each apology, word for word, and see which one in riddled with loopholes.

    Having undertaken the analysis, it is academically sound to prognosticate on which apology was pro forma and exculpatory and which apology was specific and binding.

    Have a nice day playing your troll games of deceit and misdirection. What, exactly appeals to you about being a calculating charlatan and inveigler?

    Comment by heliotrope — May 3, 2012 @ 8:47 pm - May 3, 2012

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