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  1. A treat for you: http://www.scribd.com/doc/112005234/Bapton-Books-Position-Paper-The-United-States-Presidential-Election

    By specific written permission of the authors, it is distributed free of charge.

    Comment by perturbed — November 4, 2012 @ 7:45 pm - November 4, 2012

  2. Obama won’t unite the country; he’ll continue to divide it. He’ll lead by executive fiat.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — November 4, 2012 @ 7:50 pm - November 4, 2012

  3. I don’t think he will, or even wants to unite anyone.

    I think he really believes the president of the US is essentially an elected dictator who should get everything he wants without any compromise.

    My guess is with Obama in charge it will be 4 more years of gridlock unless the democrats are smart enough to ditch Reid and choose a different senate leader (and no matter who wins the presidency I am pretty certain the democrats will still control the senate although perhaps with a smaller margin and the GOP will still control the house).

    Comment by Just Me — November 4, 2012 @ 8:12 pm - November 4, 2012

  4. Actually, he’s united everyone except the anti-gay conservatives and the gay children they wish they hadn’t birthed.

    After all, for the last four years the GOP has been a big block of “NO” – at every turn.

    Speaking of Divides – have any other cowardly gay republicans with no testicles invented “attacks from liberals” today? Because that creates a divide. Rather than showing your fellow republicans that you, as gay man, deserve full Equality and how it will in no way come at the expense of “their” liberties, you choose instead to fabricate stories that do nothing but further create divisions between Gay and Conservative.

    So, how are you all specifically working to bridge that gap?

    me? well, i’m a liberal and i don’t have a single family member or friend who would ever support a candidate, or a party, that is anti-gay.

    it’s one of the perks of being a liberal – our families actually love us, support us, and champion us.

    so while you cowards sit there thinking of ways to complain about liberals, we liberals and our families that love us will continue to do all the hard work….that your own parents will never, ever do.

    you’re welcome!

    Comment by VeetoTHAk — November 4, 2012 @ 8:33 pm - November 4, 2012

  5. This is the part where a Revolutionary typically tries to consolidate his power over government.

    (Can you imagine how cocky he’ll be when he has nothing left to fear from the electorate?)

    Comment by gastorgrab — November 4, 2012 @ 8:42 pm - November 4, 2012

  6. know what the best part of being a gay republican is? even though you vote against your own best interests, your conservative family STILL wishes you weren’t their son.

    :)

    Comment by VeetoTHAk — November 4, 2012 @ 8:48 pm - November 4, 2012

  7. And by “family who loves him,” Li’l Kiwi is apparently referring to his meth dealer.

    Comment by V the K — November 4, 2012 @ 8:53 pm - November 4, 2012

  8. Another perk of being a liberal is that if your family doesn’t love you, the Safe School Czar will set you up with a dude he met in a bus station restroom.

    Comment by V the K — November 4, 2012 @ 8:54 pm - November 4, 2012

  9. Apparently V-2-k is exactly the audience the “1st time you vote” ads pandered to. Who cares about the economy – first priority is a sanctioned hook up while Rome burns. Different form of Nero that I believe the Greeks perfected while the grubby Romans worked and built an economic powerhouse. A different spin on voting with reproductive organs vs the brain tissue

    Comment by Lynn comp — November 4, 2012 @ 9:14 pm - November 4, 2012

  10. The funny part is that everyone knows liberal trolls like Little Kiwi/VeetothaK threaten their parents that they will kill themselves unless their parents “support” them.

    That’s why their Facebook videos look like those “confessions” from hostages.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 4, 2012 @ 9:17 pm - November 4, 2012

  11. (Can you imagine how cocky he’ll be when he has nothing left to fear from the electorate?)

    This is the one thing that worries me most about Obama winning a 2nd term.

    He won’t have to worry about the electorate.

    He has a compliant media that has drunk the koolaid and will not do their jobs and hold him accountable for anything.

    He has already shown himself willing to circumvent congress when he doesn’t get his way.

    Comment by Just Me — November 4, 2012 @ 9:30 pm - November 4, 2012

  12. Obama’s the divider? I’d say it’s the Congressional Republicans who announced their first priority — above jobs, above Iran, above economic growth — was to deny Obama a second term.

    You’ve been talking for weeks about how Independents were breaking for Romney. Have you considered that a good chunk of these Independents aren’t moderates, but are actually conservatives who want to vote for the conservative candidate but can’t bear to identify themselves with the increasingly lunatic Republican brand?

    Comment by Mike R. — November 4, 2012 @ 9:37 pm - November 4, 2012

  13. One of the more bizarre conservative themes in this election is that Obama has been waiting for his second terms, when “he won’t have to worry about the electorate,” to unleash his REAL agenda.

    But if his REAL agenda can be accomplished in a single term, then why wait for a hypothetical second term when he can just do it in the first?

    Paranoia will destroy ya.

    Comment by Mike R. — November 4, 2012 @ 9:51 pm - November 4, 2012

  14. I’d say it’s the Congressional Republicans who announced their first priority — above jobs, above Iran, above economic growth — was to deny Obama a second term.

    When Obama talked to congresisonal representatives about the stimulus (his first big legislation) he told the GOP congressmen “I won” and cut them out of the negotiations and didn’t choose to listen to their concerns.

    Obama was the first to prove he wasn’t interested in bipartisanship.

    As for the current congress-a huge problem isn’t the GOP but the Reid and the senate.

    The GOP house has passed multiple jobs bills, Reid hasn’t brought a single one to the floor.

    The senate hasn’t passed a budget since 2009, and you can’t squall about a filibuster since a simple majority is all that is needed for a budget.

    Reid essentially won’t bring anything from the house to the floor-he also isn’t doing much to bring any legislation to the floor in order to hammer out a bill to send to the president.

    Reid is the guy who is the road block and Obama seems more interested in playing golf and playing at president than doing the job of president.

    Oh and Obama is completely incompetent-the one thing missing from everything with regards to the Benghazi story is where the president was, what specific decision he made or didn’t make as our ambassador, a diplomat and 2 CIA contractors were murdered.

    Comment by Just Me — November 4, 2012 @ 9:51 pm - November 4, 2012

  15. Obama was the first to prove he wasn’t interested in bipartisanship.

    Actually, if I recall correctly, it was the congressional Democrats in 2006.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 4, 2012 @ 10:35 pm - November 4, 2012

  16. Neither Mike R nor Levi can point out any examples of President iWon offering Republicans anything substantial in exchange for their support. Supposedly, he was willing to make a “Grand Bargain” with John Boner, but it was the usual Democrat song-and-dance: Taxes Now, cuts later… maybe, but probably not. And even then, iWon got greedy, reneged, and pushed for an impossibly large tax increase.

    Comment by V the K — November 4, 2012 @ 10:46 pm - November 4, 2012

  17. it’s one of the perks of being a liberal – our families actually love us, support us, and champion us.

    You have a poster of Josef Goebbles in your room, don’t you?

    Comment by TGC — November 4, 2012 @ 10:52 pm - November 4, 2012

  18. Obama’s the divider? I’d say it’s the Congressional Republicans who announced their first priority — above jobs, above Iran, above economic growth — was to deny Obama a second term.

    Yawn.

    As President Bush prepares for his second term, Democrats in Washington and around the country are organizing for a year of confrontation and resistance, saying they are determined to block Bush’s major initiatives and thereby deny him the mandate he has claimed from his reelection victory last November.

    And:

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said today that Democrats would try to block Mitt Romney’s agenda next year if he wins the presidency on Tuesday.

    In short, Mike R, you and your fellow Obama supporters are malicious liars, bigots, and hypocrites.

    That is because you are fascists. You cannot tolerate dissent, and you have been screaming and pissing yourself for four years that anyone who does not do exactly what Obama commands is a racist.

    Do you think independents who disagree with Obama or criticize Obama like being called racists like you and your Obama Party have been doing? Do you think they like being told that they must obey Barack Obama and accept everything that Barack Obama does or they want to kill all black people, kill senior citizens, and kill women, as you and your Obama Party have been doing?

    Meanwhile:

    One of the more bizarre conservative themes in this election is that Obama has been waiting for his second terms, when “he won’t have to worry about the electorate,” to unleash his REAL agenda.

    But if his REAL agenda can be accomplished in a single term, then why wait for a hypothetical second term when he can just do it in the first?

    Paranoia will destroy ya.

    Comment by Mike R. — November 4, 2012 @ 9:51 pm – November 4, 2012

    Not really.

    And that’s just one aspect.

    Now, let’s see, Mike R; why are your posts free of links and facts, while those of the conservatives here are overwhelmingly quoting you and your fellow liberals directly with facts and referenceable links and quotes, showing that not only have you obstructed, been obstructing, and planning to obstruct more, but you are also planning to push regulations in Obama’s second term that will cripple our economy just in terms of energy alone?

    Again, the reason why: you and your fellow Barack Obama supporters and your Obama Party are fascists. You use malicious lies and outright hypocrisy to try to implement your fascist plans and to punish those who do not salute Barack Obama as a dictator whose every whims must be obeyed.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 4, 2012 @ 10:54 pm - November 4, 2012

  19. When you consider the unmitigated disaster that was the SCOAMF’s first term, it isn’t paranoid to think his second term will be worse.

    Comment by V the K — November 4, 2012 @ 11:59 pm - November 4, 2012

  20. That’s a great response to Mike R., NDT. Thanks for compiling all of that.

    I would have just responded by saying that of course we all know Tip O’Neill wanted to see Reagan win a second term, and Jim Wright wanted to see George H.W. Bush win a second term, and Dick Gephardt and Nancy Pelosi wanted to see George W. Bush win a second term. And if you believe all of that, I have some land in Florida to sell you.

    Comment by Kurt — November 5, 2012 @ 12:31 am - November 5, 2012

  21. #4: “it’s one of the perks of being a liberal – our families actually love us, support us, and champion us.”

    Prove it, VeetoTHAk. Drop the anonymity, sign your real name to your comments, and then send links to your parents and family members directing them to this site so they can see the vile, hateful things you post. If they do, in fact, love, support, and champion you as enthusiastically as you claim, they couldn’t possibly be anything but proud of what you’ve posted here and affirm that they agree with every word.

    So tell us who you really are VeetoTHAk and encourage your parents and family members to introduce themselves here as well. If you don’t, we’ll just have to assume that you’re a lying, pathetic, bitter coward and that if your parents and family members read the sickening things you’ve posted here, they would be justifiably disgusted and ashamed by what you’ve become.

    Comment by Sean A — November 5, 2012 @ 1:23 am - November 5, 2012

  22. Well played, Sean A. Well played.

    Comment by Bastiat Fan — November 5, 2012 @ 1:41 am - November 5, 2012

  23. If he gets a second term, I suspect it won’t be a full one. Benghazi isn’t going away, just like Watergate (with a body count of zero, by the way) never did.

    No, if Obama wins a second term, expect impeachment or outright arrest at some point.

    But I don’t think we will need to worry about it. Romney will win in a landslide.

    Thanks for posting!

    Comment by Acethepug — November 5, 2012 @ 6:50 am - November 5, 2012

  24. Benghazi isn’t going away, just like Watergate (with a body count of zero, by the way) never did.

    It might if the media continues to play blind, deaf and dumb.

    However for those digging into the story it is looking more and more like the Obama administration was essentially running an international Fast and Furious to rebels in Syria who just happened to also be Al Quada.

    But hey according to liberals and our media Watergate was worse, because well, it just was.

    Comment by Just Me — November 5, 2012 @ 7:07 am - November 5, 2012

  25. Mitt Romney owns the most divisive, scorched-earth political statement of this campaign (maybe of all time?) with his rambling sermon about the 47%. The suggestion that he would do a better job of uniting people is pretty well refuted in a few seconds by that video. Despite the teenager-level whining about all the mean things that Barack Obama has said, nothing in his his pitch is remotely as divisive as some of the things Mitt Romney had to say when he thought no one was looking.

    I say it all the time, but unity is a two-way street, and when Republicans won’t accept anything less than what they would do (deregulating and tax cuts for rich people), then you don’t really have a legitimate grievance to file with the opposing party. Republicans, recognizing their own political responsibility for the financial crisis, do not want the country to see a Democrat pulling the economy out of the recession, so they compromised the government’s ability to respond and undermined Obama’s agenda at every opportunity. Republicans have wanted people to lose their jobs and the economy to not grow and attacks to happen overseas, because their number one priority is denying Democrats the opportunity to take credit for pulling the economy out of recession. Republicans only unite with themselves, so stop complaining about the Democrats inability to work with them.

    Why isn’t anyone talking about Chris Christie around here, by the way?

    Comment by Levi — November 5, 2012 @ 7:44 am - November 5, 2012

  26. Hmm, the trolls are desperate.

    We’ve seen in the past how much Little Fruit’s dad ‘loves him’. In that creepy royal NAMBLA kind of way.

    Mike R still supports the President framing a man and destroying the lives of his family, as long as he moves them somewhere else after ruining them.

    And Levi… Oh where do we start with our little Fascist? That he supports an actually 9/11 cover-up, while still lying about President Bush? Or maybe that to him, voting for ‘revenge’ isn’t divisive? Or how about his rallying about the ’47%’ comment is again a sign of his willingness to condemn someone in an edited video, but shrieks when an unedited video shows the reactions of the racists the woman was talking to is somehow ‘unfair.”?

    Now hush Levi, the adults are talking.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 5, 2012 @ 7:51 am - November 5, 2012

  27. I don’t think Obama really cares about governing, he outsources that to Valerie Jarrett, whose main focus in the second turn will be, in her own words “payback.”

    Obama’s just a figurehead, as long he gets to play golf and send M’Chel off on lavish vacations, I don’t think he really cares.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2012 @ 8:05 am - November 5, 2012

  28. Hey, check it out: Romney loves his family.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2012 @ 8:46 am - November 5, 2012

  29. #25: “Republicans, recognizing their own political responsibility for the financial crisis, do not want the country to see a Democrat pulling the economy out of the recession, so they compromised the government’s ability to respond and undermined Obama’s agenda at every opportunity.”

    Levi, no matter how many times you post the same laughable, fact-free defense for Obama’s unmitigated, epic failure as a President, it will never be true or make you look like anything less than a lying numbskull. The contemptible, corrupt, and incompetent Democratic Party that controls your every thought and deed has had control of Congress since January 2007. Your idiotic party gained super-majorities in both the House and Senate the same year Obama was elected in 2008. Congress passed the Stimulus at an amount even higher than Obama requested from his fellow reptiles in Congress. Obamacare passed. Dodd/Frank passed. Harry Reid has explicitly and defiantly refused to comply with his obligation to pass a budget for four fu*king years, despite the fact that it was at all times within his exclusive control to get it done by a mere majority vote. Nonetheless, Obama has presided over deficits exceeding one trillion dollars every year he’s been in office, and the proposed budgets he’s submitted to Congress failed to get even one vote from his own party. The economy is currently an unmitigated disaster (there’s no dispute the unemployment rate is now 7.9 percent–higher than when your Obamessiah took office), and you even admit yourself that the Democrats have ‘failed to pull the economy out of the recession.’

    However, despite all of these UNDISPUTED FACTS you continue to lay exclusive blame and responsibility for the state of the US economy on the GOP. Do you really not see how that verifies for everyone on this blog what a monumental imbecile and lying piece of sh*t you are? Aren’t you embarrassed? Or at least disgusted by your own inability to cite facts in support of your opinions and defend them with a shred of intellectual honesty? Seriously, what fuels your commitment to coming here over and over again just to cite the same baseless, fact-free talking points in defense of a useless bureaucrat like Obama when it would be profoundly less exhausting and embarrassing for you to just embrace facts and logic? What is so special about Obama that he compels to relentlessly make a fool of yourself on his behalf? I know why David Axelrod does it. I know why Jim Messina does it. I know why Stef Cutter does it. But what’s in it for you? I honestly don’t get it.

    Comment by Sean A — November 5, 2012 @ 9:03 am - November 5, 2012

  30. [SA to Levi:} Seriously, what fuels your commitment to coming here over and over again just to cite the same baseless, fact-free talking points in defense of a useless bureaucrat like Obama when it would be profoundly less exhausting and embarrassing for you to just embrace facts and logic? What is so special about Obama that he compels to relentlessly make a fool of yourself on his behalf?

    Dittos. What bizarre compulsions Levi must live under.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 5, 2012 @ 9:57 am - November 5, 2012

  31. I can understand Levi not wanting to hang out with his own bitter, deranged comrades.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2012 @ 10:19 am - November 5, 2012

  32. Should he win, how could Obama unite what he has divided?

    By saying “I won”, of course. By demanding that conservatives erase themselves.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 5, 2012 @ 10:23 am - November 5, 2012

  33. Dittos. What bizarre compulsions Levi must live under.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 5, 2012 @ 9:57 am – November 5, 2012

    Think of Rolf from “The Sound of Music”, and you have Levi in a nutshell.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 5, 2012 @ 12:32 pm - November 5, 2012

  34. #33: “Think of Rolf from “The Sound of Music”, and you have Levi in a nutshell.”

    Perfect analogy. At the moment of truth, Levi…um…I mean Rolf chose to blow that whistle to alert his statist Nazi benefactors to the Von Trapp family’s hiding place because he believed that Captain Von Trapp needed to be “dragged, kicking and screaming into the future”–a future that the Nazis decided would be that much brighter once they exterminated all those pesky Jews, disabled people, people of color, homosexuals, and anyone else who just didn’t “get it.”

    Comment by Sean A — November 5, 2012 @ 2:14 pm - November 5, 2012

  35. By saying “I won”, of course. By demanding that conservatives erase themselves.

    Wow, what a sophisticated and complete and absolutely-totally-justified-in-every-way explanation for Republicans being completely obstinate during a period of serious economic crisis!

    Seriously, what’s with the little girl sensitivity? Republicans spent two years slinging everything at Obama they could, labeling him a terrorist on their worst days and a foreigner on their best. He was palling around with terrorists, he was giving ‘terrorist fist jabs’ to Michelle, his father was probably a terrorist, his preacher’s a violent radical, he’s a socialist, he’s a Communist, he hates America, etc. But boy, when the guy conclusively defeats you, by a wide margin, you can’t handle him mentioning that victory with a two word sentence. You guys will talk all the trash in the world but apparently the rest of the planet needs kid gloves to handle your precious little feelings.

    Comment by Levi — November 5, 2012 @ 9:55 pm - November 5, 2012

  36. Wow, what a sophisticated and complete and absolutely-totally-justified-in-every-way explanation for Republicans being completely obstinate during a period of serious economic crisis!

    And once again, yawn:

    As President Bush prepares for his second term, Democrats in Washington and around the country are organizing for a year of confrontation and resistance, saying they are determined to block Bush’s major initiatives and thereby deny him the mandate he has claimed from his reelection victory last November.

    As President Bush prepares for his second term, Democrats in Washington and around the country are organizing for a year of confrontation and resistance, saying they are determined to block Bush’s major initiatives and thereby deny him the mandate he has claimed from his reelection victory last November.

    And:

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said today that Democrats would try to block Mitt Romney’s agenda next year if he wins the presidency on Tuesday.

    Seems as though those prove that the malicious and malignant liar Levi and his Obama Party have done, are doing, and intend to do exactly what they shriek Republicans are doing.

    And what’s really funny: a 9/11 Troofer like Levi, like the majority of Obama supporters and Obama himself, are shrieking that it’s treason to criticize the President.

    And there’s more of the same:

    You guys will talk all the trash in the world but apparently the rest of the planet needs kid gloves to handle your precious little feelings.

    Comment by Levi — November 5, 2012 @ 9:55 pm – November 5, 2012

    Says the malicious and malignant liar who spent eight YEARS screaming this at every single Republican.

    Guess both Levi and Obama are screaming little pansies who are too pussy to take what they dish.

    Your delusions have caught up with you, Levi. You truly are an insane, coked-out little drug addict. You’re screaming and crying because starting Wednesday, you’re actually going to have to work for a living instead of living in an OWS camp and raping women for a welfare check, and you know you can’t do it.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 5, 2012 @ 10:46 pm - November 5, 2012

  37. I say it all the time, but unity is a two-way street, and when Republicans won’t accept anything less than what they would do (deregulating and tax cuts for rich people), then you don’t really have a legitimate grievance to file with the opposing party. Republicans, recognizing their own political responsibility for the financial crisis…..

    All over the world, and in most parts of America, folks generally are opposed to “unity” with folks so full of shit their eyes are brown.

    Comment by TGC — November 5, 2012 @ 11:46 pm - November 5, 2012

  38. Hell liberals are so desperate, they’re running around claiming that Benghazi, and the “roadblocks” are no big deal. Then why lie?

    Comment by TGC — November 5, 2012 @ 11:49 pm - November 5, 2012

  39. Hell liberals are so desperate, they’re running around claiming that Benghazi, and the “roadblocks” are no big deal. Then why lie?

    Benghazi is not a big deal. Conservatives are making a scene and using the dead as political props because it’s an election year. Now I’m sure it will continue escalating in the conservative consciousness during Obama’s second term, but what Republicans obsess over is a pretty sure indication that whatever you’re talking about isn’t a big deal. You guys actually think it will result in impeachment? I’d love to see you morons go that route again.

    Can someone explain why conservatives are more upset with Obama about Benghazi than they ever were at any point with George Bush about the Iraq War? I mean, I already know why that’s the case, but I’d like to hear a conservative try to explain this seeming contradiction.

    Comment by Levi — November 6, 2012 @ 9:30 am - November 6, 2012

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