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  1. Even here in deep blue Washington State, there’s a feeling in the air I can’t quite describe. Something has shifted — a metaphysical tectonic plate, the winds of change, there is a sense of something different, that it’s time for something big to occur. I don’t sense in everyday interactions the hostilities we see from media figures; I detect a calm seriousness and a recognition that tomorrow is important, whatever the result. Even Romney’s critics and enemies recognize in him a respectable, well-spoken, competent candidate — someone they cannot easily dismiss as they could Bush and Palin, particularly when their own standard-bearer is so obviously flawed. What we have here is the most clear-cut example that affirmative action doesn’t work and I think the public is coming to its senses, ready for change, ready for hope. We gave an untested, non-vetted, terribly inexperienced, awfully unqualified candidate the keys to the kingdom and in exchange we can pat ourselves on our collective back that we aren’t a racist people, even if race was our motivation. It’s now time to move on.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 5, 2012 @ 7:20 pm - November 5, 2012

  2. Do “‘objective’” political facts strain the soul out of politics?

    No.

    Longer answer: Well, it depends what you mean by the scare-quoted “objective”. We have a great many people pushing “objective” facts, that aren’t.

    For example, the left-wing so-called “fact checkers”, who pronounce themselves objective and trustworthy even as they push the same old, intellectually dishonest garbage. Or the GP commentor Passing By, who seriously thinks that left-wing push-polls which look for racism in (and actively suggest racism to) the American public, are somehow quoteworthy.

    I agree that this year’s polls are tiresome. But that’s precisely because they’re NOT objective. The problem is with the fake-objectivity, the actual lack of objectivity. Not with objectivity per se.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 5, 2012 @ 7:22 pm - November 5, 2012

  3. (continued) You may as well ask, after fools and cheaters have bombarded you with tinsel and Fool’s Gold until you’re sick of it, if real gold has value. Of course it does. That’s the whole point of the fake stuff.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 5, 2012 @ 7:27 pm - November 5, 2012

  4. IDK what will happen tomorrow; I pray that Americans will show that they care more about jobs, energy, and fiscal responsibility than Big Bird and contraception, but we shall see.

    If the polls do prove to be wildly wrong, I have a theory why that might be. News media outlets… especially the New York Times and MSNBC… are not in the hard news business, they are in the business of providing the news equivalent of comfort food to liberal audiences. These audiences don’t want to know the ground truth, they want to be reassured that their prejudices are correct. Which is why, instead of taking care to make sure their samples reflect the electorate, they give their audiences PPP and Nate Silver.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2012 @ 7:30 pm - November 5, 2012

  5. And if the drones really like the poll results, they spam conservative blogs with them.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2012 @ 7:34 pm - November 5, 2012

  6. WOW! Pictures from the HUGE Romney Rally in Fairfax, Virginia:

    http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2012/11/photos-from-huge-romney-rally-in.html

    Comment by Steve — November 5, 2012 @ 7:46 pm - November 5, 2012

  7. Ignatius–

    I am also in Washington State, and I agree with you completely. Something’s going on. And it’s not gonna work out well for the left.

    Comment by Bastiat Fan — November 5, 2012 @ 7:51 pm - November 5, 2012

  8. I have the sense at least that Romney is likely going to win NH-people here who were so positive and excited about Obama aren’t this time around. I know quite a few people who are voting Romney this time and Obama is definitely losing the sign war.

    I do know a few Obama voters but most of them are voting Obama more because they aren’t going to vote for a Republican than that they really think Obama has earned 4 more years.

    Problem is in my neck of the woods it is hard to gauge what is going on elsewhere.

    Electorally IMO Obama has a huge advantage simply because he owns several large EV states. It is going to take Romney voters to turn out for him to win.

    I remember reading somewhere that this is the broken glass election-and I am proudly among those who would crawl across broken glass to vote for Romney.

    Comment by Just Me — November 5, 2012 @ 8:04 pm - November 5, 2012

  9. Bastiat,

    Good to meet a fellow Washingtonian rightie. Two little red dots are we. Although I’m certain Obama will win in Washington, I’m hoping that McKenna pulls through. 74 should bring lots of conservatives to the polls, however you or I feel about that particular initiative. All the best to you.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 5, 2012 @ 8:04 pm - November 5, 2012

  10. I voted to REJECT 74. There’s no such thing as a gay “marriage.” And, for the record, I was gay before Will & Grace made it cool. But I’m also Catholic, and that trumps gay.

    Comment by Bastiat Fan — November 5, 2012 @ 9:03 pm - November 5, 2012

  11. The border I cross is the Cascade Mountains, from Red East to Blue West and back again. I’m from the east side of Washington. Move over there if you want to live with the William F. Buckley crowd. I have no sympathy for you whiny Lewis County people or otherwise conservative west side people. Move to the rural districts in the desert where your Republican votes mean something.

    Comment by Border Crosser — November 5, 2012 @ 10:59 pm - November 5, 2012

  12. “But I’m also Catholic, and that trumps gay.”

    Honest question because I am curious. How do you have relations with your partner / friend / person you meet at the bar and maintain that “Catholic..trumps gay” philosophy?

    Reminds me of TV episode I saw where a guy showered after premarital relations due to his “catholic shame.”

    Anyway, back to topic: I think Obama is going to win and the Dems will hold the Senate and the repubs will hold the house.
    Why?
    Because this is what the polls say. All of the late movement seems to be going Obama’s way. Maybe I am wrong, but usually the polls are more-or-less correct in these matters.

    Comment by mike — November 6, 2012 @ 12:21 am - November 6, 2012

  13. Honest question because I am curious. How do you have relations with your partner / friend / person you meet at the bar and maintain that “Catholic..trumps gay” philosophy?

    That’s a lie, mike.

    Because your next statement was to degrade and attack Catholics.

    Reminds me of TV episode I saw where a guy showered after premarital relations due to his “catholic shame.”

    You’re just a hatemongering bigot, Mike. Which is ironic, because Catholics helped literally millions of the people that you and your barebacking friends got sick with HIV, then dumped when they were no longer sexually attractive to you.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 6, 2012 @ 1:08 am - November 6, 2012

  14. NDT

    Please do not place your biases on me as I had intention to stray into the territory you venture. I was just explaining a plot line on a TV show. I am honestly curious how someone can hold to a religion in his/her situation. I’m not playing the “self hate/loathing” thing at all as I will leave that to others.
    From my perspective it would be impossible for me to hold to a religion under his/her circumstances.
    So I am honestly asking.
    Thats it.
    No Hidden Agenda.

    Comment by mike — November 6, 2012 @ 1:43 am - November 6, 2012

  15. ILC has it right. If you’re trying to accurately predict the outcome of an election, objective data is probably better, but you can’t use it if you don’t have any. I guess we’ll find out tomorrow whether or not the polls have been objective this time (I mean, less objective than they are already known to be, because of oversampling Democrats, et cetera).

    Move over there if you want to live with the William F. Buckley crowd. I have no sympathy for you whiny Lewis County people or otherwise conservative west side people.

    Just saying. People can’t just move somewhere if they have a job or something. And people have reasons for living somewhere other than politics, although that is one of the reasons I moved to Calgary (to get out of less conservative BC. Where I used to live was actually only a few dozen kilometers from the Washington border, on the east side. My American TV channels were out of Spokane).

    Reminds me of TV episode I saw where a guy showered after premarital relations due to his “catholic shame.”

    Don’t people usually shower after sex anyway? If not, they should, because I can’t imagine it being very sanitary.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 6, 2012 @ 2:27 am - November 6, 2012

  16. I am honestly curious how someone can hold to a religion in his/her situation.

    Maybe by being celibate.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 6, 2012 @ 2:28 am - November 6, 2012

  17. Honest question because I am curious.

    mike, NDT is right that put your honesty/curiousity in doubt, by framing your question in suggestively negative cliches about Catholics.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 6, 2012 @ 8:42 am - November 6, 2012

  18. “that -you- put your…”

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 6, 2012 @ 8:43 am - November 6, 2012

  19. (#10) “But I’m also Catholic, and that trumps gay.”

    So, what you’re saying is that an institution indoctrinating you with superstitious beliefs trumps the factual reality of your innate sexual orientation.

    Comment by Richard R — November 6, 2012 @ 9:40 am - November 6, 2012

  20. So what Richard is saying is that he supports buggering children (“innate sexual orientation”) vs being taught it’s wrong. *”institution indoctrinating you with superstitious beliefs”)

    Are you a Penn State Grad?

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 6, 2012 @ 9:48 am - November 6, 2012

  21. Perfectly put, Livewire.

    This attitude from gays like Richard Rush is why for years they accepted and endorsed NAMBLA as part of the gay community; to people like Richard Rush, the fact that you want to have sex with it is moral justification to do so, and anyone that says otherwise is a bigot.

    This is why Richard Rush and his fellow liberals like Levi scream that there’s nothing wrong with coercing women into sex, having sex when you’re drunk, and having unprotected sex because you “forgot” your condoms. They insist that their biological drives to have sex should determine what is and isn’t “moral”.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 6, 2012 @ 12:35 pm - November 6, 2012

  22. Agreed NDT.

    I’d also point out that Richard R clearly supports rape. After all if a guy wants to assault a woman he’s just following his ‘innate sexual orientation’ and social norms are just “institution indoctrinating”.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 6, 2012 @ 12:56 pm - November 6, 2012

  23. One of the main purposes of religion is to enable us to rise above our innate sexual urges. Richard R may be content to be a mindless, hormone-driven animal. I choose not.

    Comment by V the K — November 6, 2012 @ 1:01 pm - November 6, 2012

  24. @ V the K

    I’ve explained it as I can’t get mad about Rocky piddling on the floor. He’s running on instinct. It’s my failure to take him out (or change the puppy pads). A chihuahua runs on instinct, we have the ability to be more.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 6, 2012 @ 1:11 pm - November 6, 2012

  25. So, you people are implying that Bastiat Fan’s orientation is to bugger children, endorse NAMBLA, support rape, and believe “there’s nothing wrong with coercing women into sex, having sex when you’re drunk, and having unprotected sex because you “forgot” your condoms,” and the only thing preventing him from acting on his orientation is the Catholic church. If I were him, I’d be really pissed.

    I responded to Bastiat Fan saying he is gay, and rational people would take that to mean he desires consenting sex and romantic relationships with other adult men. Relationships among adult gay couples harm no one else while allowing their lives to be as fulfilling as straight couples. If you people can’t discern the difference between these relationships and the others you mention, you are woefully unqualified to be discussing the matter.

    Comment by Richard R — November 6, 2012 @ 1:30 pm - November 6, 2012

  26. Nope Richard, nice try.

    We’re responding to you. In point, to your belief that civilization should not get in the way of your ‘baser instincts’. You may try to change the topic, but your overwrought reaction simply shows how you don’t like being forced to look in a mirror and see how much an animal you are.

    I assume Bastiat Fan, like V, NDT, Dan, Bruce, Leah, me, etc. knows that he’s more than an animal, and more than the sum of his ‘innate sexual orientation’.

    Unlike you, who believes that sexual orientation is the most important defining characteristic of your being (“the factual reality”), we simply believe it is part of what we are and it is our beliefs, whether it be Bastiat’s Catholism, V’s Mormon beliefs, Dan’s Jewish faith or my own Henothestic Christianity, that allow us to understand we are more than simple animals, rutting for our own lusts.

    Unlike my chihuahua, you can rise above your “inate sexual orientation”. Humans do it every day. That you feel you should never do so (it’s a ‘factual reality’ according to you) is sad really.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 6, 2012 @ 1:49 pm - November 6, 2012

  27. So, you people are implying that Bastiat Fan’s orientation is to bugger children, endorse NAMBLA, support rape, and believe “there’s nothing wrong with coercing women into sex, having sex when you’re drunk, and having unprotected sex because you “forgot” your condoms,” and the only thing preventing him from acting on his orientation is the Catholic church. If I were him, I’d be really pissed.

    Pretty much.

    You see, Richard Rush, Bastiat Fan makes a conscious decision not to do any of those things, based on his religious belief.

    You, on the other hand, mock his not doing any of those things based on his religious belief as being a slave to “indoctrination with superstitious beliefs” and avoiding the “factual reality of (his) innate sexual orientation”.

    We simply called you on it. Indeed, I can point you directly to where your fellow atheist and antireligious bigot Levi spun that there was nothing wrong with any of this and that coercing a woman into sex, aka rape, is no worse than watching too much reality TV.

    In short, Richard Rush, you and your fellow liberals ARE animals. You have made it clear that not only are you incapable of controlling yourself sexually, but that you don’t think there’s anything wrong with your inability to control yourself sexually.

    Do you even comprehend this? Think how many more people would be alive today if you and your fellow barebacking idiots could have been troubled to at least put on a condom. Think how many more lives would be safe and disease-free if you and your fellow gay bigots treated people who lie about their HIV status and have bareback sex with the same disdain that you do Republicans. Think how much lower the HIV rate would be if you and your fellow barebacking perverts could spend as much time screaming at kids not to have unprotected gay sex as you do screaming at Christians.

    All of that happened because you not only wouldn’t control yourself, but because you and your fellow gay bigots OPENLY MOCKED AND PRESSURED people like Bastiat Fan to be promiscuous and irresponsible by claiming they were “self-loathing” if they didn’t.

    You’re a child, Richard Rush. You and your fellow bigots are nothing more than immature children who have spent your entire lives screaming that Big Momma Government should protect you from reality the same way that your worthless liberal parents did.

    It’s over. Period. You are not killing another generation because of your need to rationalize your decades of stupidity. You and your fellow gay bigots have proven that not only are you personally irresponsible, but that you will not rest until your irresponsibility is normalized and government-subsidized.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 6, 2012 @ 3:01 pm - November 6, 2012

  28. Relationships among adult gay couples harm no one else while allowing their lives to be as fulfilling as straight couples. If you people can’t discern the difference between these relationships and the others you mention, you are woefully unqualified to be discussing the matter.

    Comment by Richard R — November 6, 2012 @ 1:30 pm – November 6, 2012

    Actually, I can discern it beautifully.

    Male-female couples who observe the requirements of Catholic law, including no sex prior to making their lifetime commitment to each other and no sex outside the relationship for the lifetime thereafter, have a miniscule (if not zero) HIV/STD rate.

    In contrast, gay men have an STD rate forty-plus times the average population, much less committed Catholic couples.

    Why should society subsidize your promiscuity and stupidity, Richard Rush, especially when your promiscuous and stupid behavior drives up health costs for everyone and requires us to pay you disability when you give yourself HIV? Your relationship IS harming other people because your stupidity, irresponsibility, and inability to keep a commitment is requiring the rest of us to pay your bills.

    You don’t have the mental capability to be faithful, Richard Rush. Not if you’re insisting as does your idiot Levi that coercing another person into sex is perfectly OK and that anyone who believes otherwise is indoctrinated with “superstitions”. Indeed, when I challenged you before, you couldn’t produce a single gay-sex marriage organization that would publicly state that the divorce rate is abysmal and that people should take marriage more seriously, while I was able to provide multiple traditional marriage organizations that did.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 6, 2012 @ 3:09 pm - November 6, 2012

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