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  1. More in sorrow than anger, etc. but … the GOP has had 4 years already to reassess.

    Comment by Jeremayakovka — November 7, 2012 @ 2:11 pm - November 7, 2012

  2. BDB, would love to hear your thoughts on the voter-approved gay marriage laws that were passed in ME, MD, and possibly WA, as no courts were involved and they were the expressed will of the people. It sounds like they were aligned with your beliefs in both gay marriage as well as legal non-judicious means. It sounds like a cause for celebration, if not acknowledgement.

    Comment by Vince Smetana — November 7, 2012 @ 2:29 pm - November 7, 2012

  3. Vince, when I’m up for blogging, intend to address that very subject.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — November 7, 2012 @ 2:34 pm - November 7, 2012

  4. Don’t blame you, think we all need a break. My husband just suspended his facebook account. He doesn’t want to engage at this time.

    Comment by Lisa M. Summers — November 7, 2012 @ 2:48 pm - November 7, 2012

  5. I am disturbed by this, but life will go on. Unfortunately it will probably not be as good as it used to be.

    There were a number of factors that led up to last night…

    Comment by EBL — November 7, 2012 @ 3:01 pm - November 7, 2012

  6. Rush’s opening thesis today was that “You can’t win against Santa Claus. And you certainly can’t win with saying ‘be your own Santa Claus’.”

    Santa Claus won last night (and on a similar night in 2008).

    Comment by RSG — November 7, 2012 @ 3:34 pm - November 7, 2012

  7. This is a serious blow, but it’s not the end of the world. This is a generational struggle for the heart and soul of our country, and it won’t be won by a single election (2010, which was a wave election), nor will it be lost by a single election (2012, which was not a wave election).

    This is part of what I’m posting tomorrow (sorry for the shameless plug):

    The conservative Republicans’ positions are sound. What they need to do is a better job of communicating, a Republican weakness of long-standing. They need actually to approach these groups and talk directly to them in their neighborhoods. This is what the Democrats have been doing for years.

    Mitt Romney made a speech to the NAACP, but neither he nor his representatives ever went into the local neighborhoods where blacks live. He never talked directly to blacks.

    Mitt Romney’s Spanish-speaking son made a few speeches to Hispanic organizations in Florida, but no one went into the neighborhoods there—or in Texas (which as a state went for Romney, but not the Hispanic population), or in Illinois, or in New York, or in California, or in…—to talk directly to Hispanics where they live.

    Mitt Romney didn’t even pay lip service to the Asian demographic.

    As I said, Republicans need to improve their communications skills, not alter what they stand for. Those are sound principles, and they’ll draw all Americans, not just a select few. Medicare, for instance, was painted as a huge vulnerability for the Republicans—their view that Medicare needed to be sharply revised in order to survive and their specific plan for achieving that revision were supposed to be Republicans’ undoing. A look at the exit polling at the above link, though, shows the soundness of the Republican position: voters 65 and older went for Romney 56%-44%, and those 45-64—the group beginning to think about and to get serious about planning for retirement—went for Romney 51%-47%.

    I don’t address gay issues in that post, but at this level of generality, I don’t think they need to be addressed. When conservatism re-arises, and individual freedoms and responsibilities are reasserted as central tenets of our society, the idealist in me thinks that favorable gay issue resolution will fall out of the reassertion.

    Eric Hines

    Comment by E Hines — November 7, 2012 @ 4:08 pm - November 7, 2012

  8. E Hines I agree that getting out among the people in a real way to communicate the message may the best strategy. My disconnect with the “GOP must change to attract minorities” basically sounds like “The GOP must turn into DNC lite” and the minorities are going to vote for the real thing anyway.

    I do think the GOP needs to think about real immigration reform. The immigration system is broken and needs to be fixed. But I am pretty convinced at this point in time the GOP could write and pass the most beautiful, give them everything they want open borders, amnesty etc bill and the hispanic vote would still march to the polls to vote for the democrats right now.

    It isn’t so much what the GOP is passing that turns people off, as it is I think they feel like the GOP doesn’t really care.

    As for gay issues-I think the boat is about to go over the waterfall on gay marriage-and/or civil unions. I really think perhaps gays need to back off from the ‘we must have marriage” if they want to tip the boat over in some of the more religious red states. Civil unions is a baby step-a “let’s meet in the middle” overture and sometimes a meet in the middle solution is far better than ramming something down somebody’s throat.

    Comment by Just Me — November 7, 2012 @ 4:56 pm - November 7, 2012

  9. Civil unions is a baby step-a “let’s meet in the middle” overture….

    And a baby step, or a middle solution, never need be the final step or the only solution.

    Eric Hines

    Comment by E Hines — November 7, 2012 @ 6:05 pm - November 7, 2012

  10. Overall, the election results are a huge win for human decency, and a well deserved loss for bigots and/or the Greedy Old Pricks.

    After I absorbed the extent of the great news early today, all I could think of was, Oh What a Beautiful Morning:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KNEUtN21cuU

    Comment by Richard R — November 7, 2012 @ 7:00 pm - November 7, 2012

  11. Overall, the election results are a huge win for human decency, and a well deserved loss for bigots and/or the Greedy Old Pricks.

    Comment by Richard R — November 7, 2012 @ 7:00 pm – November 7, 2012</blockquote

    Of course, Richard Rush; your ancestors said the same thing the morning Hitler won and you could start dealing with “the Jewish problem”.

    Because, after all, all you are is the descendant of fascists and the practitioner of antireligious bigotry and fascism.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 7, 2012 @ 7:07 pm - November 7, 2012

  12. Given that Richard supports paedophiles not fighting their nature and buggering children, I find him hard to take seriously.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 7, 2012 @ 8:19 pm - November 7, 2012

  13. I wanted Obama to win. It was a real nail biter, though. It still could have gone either way in the right circumstances. I am disappointed in the gloating that takes place amongst liberals.

    Be happy your guy won. Don’t rub the opposition’s nose in it.

    Romney could have just as easily won. I am conducting myself the way I hope the other side would in case he had.

    Comment by Vince Smetana — November 7, 2012 @ 9:28 pm - November 7, 2012

  14. Given that The_Livewire supports making up lies about other commenters, I find him impossible to take seriously.

    Comment by Richard R — November 7, 2012 @ 9:38 pm - November 7, 2012

  15. The_LiveWire isn’t perfect. Who is.

    Comment by Vince Smetana — November 7, 2012 @ 10:19 pm - November 7, 2012

  16. How schizophrenic do you have to be to claim Obama and not Romney stands for “human decency”?

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 8, 2012 @ 12:09 am - November 8, 2012

  17. You have to understand, Rattlesnake, that Richard Rush lionizes as heroes people like Harry “NAMBLA” Hay and Frank Kameny, who advised gays to lie and donate HIV-tainted blood.

    “Decency” has the same meaning to him as it did to the Nazis — namely, that which supported the fascist cause, like killing Jews, was “decent”.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 2:33 am - November 8, 2012

  18. Not lying at all Richard. You’re the one who’s on the record saying that one should not deny one’s innate sexual orientation.

    Got to hate when the words you write stick around.

    And Vince Vince Vince… I’ve never claimed perfection. As opposed to Richard who claims denying one’s urges is wrong.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 8, 2012 @ 8:23 am - November 8, 2012

  19. I wanted Obama to win.

    Then, Cinesnatch, you wanted the wrong guy.

    You picked the failure over the success; the narcissist over the guy who genuinely spends tons of his spare time serving others; and the small, bitter, negative, vengeful campaigner over the positive one. Congratulations.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 8, 2012 @ 1:34 pm - November 8, 2012

  20. Nope. The truth is The_Livewire’s the liar, and you are smart enough to know it. Why would you want to degrade yourself by emulating ND30?

    Comment by Richard R — November 8, 2012 @ 7:16 pm - November 8, 2012

  21. Awwwww isn’t it sweet how Richard tries to pretend he didn’t write what he wrote?

    Of course we shouldn’t be surprised. After all, Richard refuses to accept “superstitious beliefs” like morality and honesty.

    As I’ve said elsewhere. NDT prefers the shotgun, I prefer the sniper rifle. Of course, you provide the bullets.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 8, 2012 @ 7:51 pm - November 8, 2012

  22. You certainly have a fun time with blanks.

    Comment by Vince Smetana — November 8, 2012 @ 9:14 pm - November 8, 2012

  23. Vince trying to be funny is like me trying to diet.

    Sad to watch and not very effective.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 9, 2012 @ 7:56 am - November 9, 2012

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