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  1. Brian Sandoval, Governor of Nevada, is also Hispanic.

    He beat Harry Reid’s son in 2010.

    Rory Reid was so ashamed of his relationship, he didn’t use his surname in campaign ads.

    That was the year Harry Reid said he couldn’t believe any Hispanic would ever vote Republican.

    Then, his demonspawn son got his ass kicked by one.

    Irony.

    Comment by V the K — November 7, 2012 @ 11:13 pm - November 7, 2012

  2. “Why did Mitt Romney fail to get as many votes as did John McCain in 2008?”

    Two words: Sarah Palin.

    Comment by Ryan — November 7, 2012 @ 11:22 pm - November 7, 2012

  3. 1. What Ryan said and the fact he was portrayed as evil cancer causing job relocator Wall Street vulture BAIN. Some saw him as no different than Obama. Many not happy with our ‘choice’.
    2. Straw man garbage. We are the party of civil rights. We have plenty of minorities and if you remember, Obama media cut away from them speaking at the convention. Itdidn’t fit their narrative they were setting up.

    Comment by Annie — November 7, 2012 @ 11:38 pm - November 7, 2012

  4. 3. Toss the snooty establishment out on their entitled behinds.

    Comment by Annie — November 7, 2012 @ 11:40 pm - November 7, 2012

  5. 1. I generally think Romney was a better candidate than McCain, and I totally understand why a lot of people were frustrated with McCain, but I do think the moderate/maverick/RINO thing has its benefits. It seems that he did better with Latinos than Romney. I also think that because the ’08 election had more electricity overall with the hope n’ change thing, more people on our side were awake and got out to vote. Still, I do think it’s strange that fewer people got out to vote.
    2. We need to avoid the more-anti-illegal-than-thou primary. It is awful, both visually and substantively, to be on TV fighting over who is going to be toughest on illegal immigration. We should also lose our allergy to immigration reform. It’s better to have our side represented in making it happen than for our folks to get voted out of office and for Democrats to do it all themselves.

    Comment by chad — November 7, 2012 @ 11:43 pm - November 7, 2012

  6. Bobby Jindal (Pres) and Marco Rubio (Veeep) have the knowledge and cajones to properly explain/define/defend against media and other misconceptions (a large swath of younger people who have never heard these ideas articulated well). this will help to explain in a cogent manner immigration issues and take the larger picture into hand (here is Prager the night of the loss: http://youtu.be/3a6h6x2UNlM).

    The Hispanic vote SHOULD be easy. They are very religious, family oriented, pro-life, entrepreneurial, hard workers, and the like. Videos like this should be looping next time around… nation wide (From AEI’s competition: http://youtu.be/gHhaao3Cb3I)

    So Jindal/Rubio, with West as Secretary of Defense. Otherwise, who will defend and explain our values well?

    Comment by Papa Giorgio — November 7, 2012 @ 11:45 pm - November 7, 2012

  7. Don’t forget that the media is the enemy and that is the entity Breitbart declared war on.
    They are the left arm of the DNC. Big money is behind them. See the female former CNN reporter whistleblower. (sorry, can’t remember her name or search on this iPod) Despots and US government paying them to manipulate/cover-up/disappear news.

    Comment by Annie — November 7, 2012 @ 11:52 pm - November 7, 2012

  8. “We are the party of civil rights. We have plenty of minorities and if you remember, Obama media cut away from them speaking at the convention”

    No Annie. Go look at the votes of the % of people of color who voted this year.
    Its a scary trend for Republicans and one that can’t continue. Do you really think a few pictures on the TV screen would sway anyone? Do you think Americans are that stupid?

    Comment by mike — November 7, 2012 @ 11:56 pm - November 7, 2012

  9. “Don’t forget that the media is the enemy and that is the entity Breitbart declared war on.”

    STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT

    Its not the media’s fault. Its a messaging problem, just like the polls where not a product of bias. They were a product of Obama’s better campaign.
    It is what is. We need to stop this kind of victimization type attitude.

    While I am at it, Stop using works like “Takers” / “Leeches” and crap like that (not you annie, others here)

    Its not a winning mindset to demonize 1/2 the country.

    Comment by mike — November 8, 2012 @ 12:03 am - November 8, 2012

  10. mike, I would say so much it was Obama’s better campaign, but his better turnout operation. GOP thought we had a good ground game. He just had a better one.

    And good as it was, he got out 8 million fewer voters than he did four years ago.

    So now GOP needs to figure out how to get those 8 million Americans to vote for our team.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — November 8, 2012 @ 12:08 am - November 8, 2012

  11. Well done Mike.

    Comment by Another_Jeremy — November 8, 2012 @ 1:22 am - November 8, 2012

  12. Well done Mike.

    Comment by Vince Smetana — November 8, 2012 @ 1:45 am - November 8, 2012

  13. Yes, mike, nice attempt at concern trolling, especially since you admitted you hate Republicans and voted for Obama.

    Leave those issues out of government and make them a family choice. Then you would have this voter and probably many more like me.

    Comment by mike — November 7, 2012 @ 7:32 pm – November 7, 2012

    And since you voted for and endorsed Obama, we already know you’re an idiot who screams that any criticism of Obama is racist, that black and Hispanic people who vote Republican are race traitors and Uncle Toms, that Republicans want to re-institute slavery, and that Mitt Romney is a murderer.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 2:01 am - November 8, 2012

  14. Yes, mike, nice attempt at concern trolling, especially since you admitted you hate Republicans and voted for Obama.

    Leave those issues out of government and make them a family choice. Then you would have this voter and probably many more like me.

    Comment by mike — November 7, 2012 @ 7:32 pm – November 7, 2012

    And since you voted for and endorsed Obama, we already know you’re an idiot who screams that any criticism of Obama is racist, that black and Hispanic people who vote Republican are race traitors and Uncle Toms, that Republicans want to re-institute slavery, and that Mitt Romney is a murderer.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 2:02 am - November 8, 2012

  15. Meanwhile, let’s also point out that Obama voters are overwhelmingly racist looters and moochers who vote for Obama because he’s black and because he gives them free stuff.

    Plus, we must not forget the white racists that keep everyone else in line by threatening to send black people to beat them up.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 2:07 am - November 8, 2012

  16. I’m surprised Asian Americans are so Democratic. They are much more conservative in Canada (at least how they vote). And the culture of Asian Americans just doesn’t seem like it would be conducive to leftism (unless this is just a stereotype, they seem to value family and hard work and seem to be good at business) (especially considering many of them left Communist countries).

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 8, 2012 @ 2:10 am - November 8, 2012

  17. NDT
    I am a socially liberal fiscal conservative who understands the need for government that works.

    Deal with it.
    And the fact that you and people like you continue to post things like “Obama voters are overwhelmingly racist looters and moochers”

    without getting challenged needs to stop.

    Your rhetoric is the rhetoric of a loser. (not a loser in the sense of your personality, but in the sense of someone who cannot win)

    It needs to stop and you need to use your rhetorical skills for the good of the country and not dismiss the ideas of 51% of the country.

    Comment by mike — November 8, 2012 @ 2:19 am - November 8, 2012

  18. I am a socially liberal fiscal conservative who understands the need for government that works.

    Which, as I have already pointed out, means you give overwhelming endorsement and your vote to tax cheats who run up massive deficits giving taxpayer-funded kickbacks to their cronies.

    What you are is a pig at the trough who is trying to rationalize why he voted based on promises that he would get to loot and mooch everyone else’s food.

    You don’t have a single sane argument, mike. All you and your Obama did was rant that Romney was a murderer, lie about his taxes, lie about his family, lie about his personal life, lie about his business, and call anyone who dared criticize Obama a racist.

    It’s amazing how desperate you looters and moochers are to make noble what you are, which is nothing more than lazy thieves. But no one believes that you will stop stealing, mike, especially since your Obama has promised you that you can steal even more as long as you swear complete and total allegiance to him.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 2:42 am - November 8, 2012

  19. [...]who understands the need for government that works.

    So how are you getting that now, exactly? Or in the next four years with the current composition of the Executive and Legislative branches of government?

    Just curious…

    Comment by RSG — November 8, 2012 @ 2:49 am - November 8, 2012

  20. This is just too good. I have to keep coming back to this.

    I am a socially liberal fiscal conservative who understands the need for government that works…..

    It needs to stop and you need to use your rhetorical skills for the good of the country and not dismiss the ideas of 51% of the country.

    Comment by mike — November 8, 2012 @ 2:19 am – November 8, 2012

    Yup, the 51% of the country who repeated endless lies at Harry Reid’s and Barack Obama’s command about Mitt Romney’s taxes, but seemingly forgot things.

    A new report just out from the Internal Revenue Service reveals that 36 of President Obama’s executive office staff owe the country $833,970 in back taxes. These people working for Mr. Fair Share apparently haven’t paid any share, let alone their fair share.

    Oh, but there’s more.

    Lots more.

    Now, back taxes have been a problem for the Obama-Biden administration. You may recall early on that Tom Daschle was the president’s top pick to run the Health and Human Services Department. But it turned out the former Democratic senator, who was un-elected from South Dakota in 2004, owed something like $120,000 to the IRS for things from his subsequent benefactor that he just forgot to pay taxes on. You know how that is. $120G’s here or there. So he dropped out.

    And then we learned this guy Timothy Geithner owed something like $42,000 in back taxes and penalties to the IRS, which is one of the agencies that he’d be in charge of as secretary of the Treasury. The fine fellow who’s supposed to know about handling everyone else’s money. In the end this was excused by Washington’s bipartisan CYA culture as one of those inadvertent accidental oversights that somehow never seem to happen on the side of paying too much taxes.

    Lots, LOTS more.

    This one’s truly, uh … rich: Billionaire Warren Buffett says folks like him should have to pay more taxes — but it turns out his firm, Berkshire Hathaway, hasn’t paid what it’s already owed for years.

    That’s right: As Americans for Limited Government President Bill Wilson notes, the company openly admits that it owes back taxes since as long ago as 2002.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 2:57 am - November 8, 2012

  21. Oh, but don’t go away, mike; while you were busy sucking Harry Reid’s cock and repeating the lies he ordered you to repeat about Mitt Romney’s taxes, we have prime examples of how both you AND your Obama Party leadership endorse and support actual tax cheats.

    Ohio Democratic U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown was more than four months delinquent in paying taxes on his Washington, D.C., apartment and had to pay a penalty and interest last week.

    This was not the first time, records show.

    Brown also was delinquent in 2006 and 2007 and paid penalties and interest, according to tax records from the District of Columbia.

    But of course, there’s more.

    Missouri Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill admitted Monday that she had failed to pay about $287,000 in back taxes and will sell a private plane that has created considerable controversy as she prepares to run for a second term in 2012…..

    The tax revelations are the only the latest problem for McCaskill involving the plane,however.

    In the wake of a Politico report that had billed the government for her travel on the aircraft, she quickly reimbursed taxpayers for the trips, hoping to avoid a protracted political problem.

    But, it was then revealed that she had billed taxpayers for a purely political trip — deepening her potential exposure on the issue.

    Much, MUCH more.

    Mr. Rangel promised last fall to amend his tax returns, pay what is due and correct the information on his annual financial disclosure form. But the deadline for the 2008 filing was May 15 and as of last week he still had not filed. His press spokesman declined to answer questions about anything related to his ethics problems.

    Besides not paying those pesky taxes, Mr. Rangel had other reasons for wanting to hide income. As the tenant of four rent-stabilized apartments in Harlem, the Congressman needed to keep his annual reported income below $175,000, lest he be ineligible as a hardship case for rent control. (He also used one of the apartments as an office in violation of rent-control rules, but that’s another story.)

    Mr. Rangel said last fall that “I never had any idea that I got any income’’ from the villa. Try using that one the next time the IRS comes after you. Equally interesting is his claim that he didn’t know that the developer of the Dominican Republic villa had converted his $52,000 mortgage to an interest-free loan in 1990. That would seem to violate House rules on gifts, which say Members may only accept loans on “terms that are generally available to the public.” Try getting an interest-free loan from your banker.

    The National Legal and Policy Center also says it has confirmed that Mr. Rangel owned a home in Washington from 1971-2000 and during that time claimed a “homestead” exemption that allowed him to save on his District of Columbia property taxes. However, the homestead exemption only applies to a principal residence, and the Washington home could not have qualified as such since Mr. Rangel’s rent-stabilized apartments in New York have the same requirement.

    But again, we expect nothing better from you. You’re a pig who wants to gorge himself at the trough on the food other people produce, and all of these tax cheats that I have mentioned have the outstanding virtue of telling you that you’re entitled to loot, mooch, and take from these people. You don’t care if they actually pay taxes as long as you get what you want; the rest of the country can go to hell.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 3:06 am - November 8, 2012

  22. And last but certainly not least, mike: the 51% of the country that you keep ranting about insisted that Mitt Romney wasn’t fit to hold elected office because he followed tax law, but that Obama and his endorsees who outright broke tax law should get a pass.

    You and your fellow 51%ers aren’t sane or intelligent. You’re willing to do anything and allow anything to put into power people who promise to let you loot, mooch, and take from others, even as they don’t pay their OWN taxes and defraud the welfare system.

    Meanwhile, as V the K put it, you trashed someone with an exemplary life and business career in favor of an outright tax cheat and liar who screamed that Romney was a racist, a rape supporter, and a murderer.

    You deserve worse than contempt. You are a pig, a moocher, a thief, and a looter, and those are the kinder things that I will say about you and your fellow Obama supporters.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 3:15 am - November 8, 2012

  23. Obama only won 50.4% of the popular vote.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — November 8, 2012 @ 3:19 am - November 8, 2012

  24. RSG -
    “So how are you getting that now, exactly?”

    I am not. This is the problem.

    “…while you were busy sucking Harry Reid’s cock…”
    Why this?
    Really…what good does it do to talk like that?

    And again. Your rhetoric is the rhetoric of a losing party that cannot win.
    It must stop for there to be a GOP majority again.

    Comment by mike — November 8, 2012 @ 4:36 am - November 8, 2012

  25. lower case mike is queen of the double standards. It’s okay for liberals to use Government to advance their social agenda, but Republicans need to “drop the social issues.” It’s okay for Democrats to name-call Republicans as racists, bigots, and haters; but Republicans aren’t allowed to call welfare mooches a drain on society.

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 5:33 am - November 8, 2012

  26. I have never understood the phrase “socially liberal fiscal conservative”. Socially liberal programs swallow huge amounts of money (my money…taxes). How is that being fiscally conservative?

    Comment by Mary — November 8, 2012 @ 8:03 am - November 8, 2012

  27. It is correct that the Republican Party is the party of inclusion. Ironically that also works against branding in an amusing paradox: How can you reach out to people based on skill colour when you judge people by the content of their character? Yes Bobby Jindal, Alan West, et. al. are examples of the true inclusiveness of the Republican Party, but they are there because of their character, not to fill out some denigrating quota system. So how do you point it out, w/o making their melatonin levels a big deal? As MSNBC shows, the left biased media is never going to point it out.

    Or to put it another way, how many left handed governours do we have in the 50 states? Does anyone know? Does anyone care?

    This is the ‘marketing’ problem. Most Republicans care as much about Nikki Haley’s ovaries as they do her handiness. i.e. not one bit. To extole her ovaries and her history over her mind and beliefs is to perform the same denigration that Liberals do.

    We are not going to see conservatives in ascention if we can’t teach people that it is the Conservatives who will judge them by the content of their character, and the Democrats who will run FBI files on them because of the colour of their skin.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 8, 2012 @ 8:08 am - November 8, 2012

  28. IN anecdotal conversations with mainstream Obama-voters, the standard “…yes, but” reason for their support of Obama over the obvious economic negative-factors was the looming changes to the US Supreme Court bench and it’s impact on immigration, women’s economic issues and access to abortion. ” …Yes, But I don’t want the GOP installing two or even-four Supreme Court Justices during a GOP-Romney administration.” This points to the yawning-chasm of the Gender Gap and the Hispanic Gap.

    Demographics is History.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — November 8, 2012 @ 8:41 am - November 8, 2012

  29. mike is right.

    The GOP can not win the “give them what they want to hear” type of campaign.

    But mike is wrong. Obamaphones and hints about gay marriage and more stimulus going to the unions and back to the Democrat Party and free contraceptives and amnesty for illegal aliens and Dream Act Affirmative Action for Hispanics and higher taxes on the rich will not begin to stem the hemorrhaging; in fact, all that will exacerbate the financial disruption.

    Obamacare was carefully crafted to delay the pain of its actual costs until after 2014 and the big hit comes after 2016. mike undoubtedly believes that all the money collected and “saved” in the Obamacare scheme prior to those dates is neatly stacked up and waiting to be spent as promised. Just like Social Security has a trust fund and Quantative Easing has not devalued the currency.

    mike, what is Obama’s plan to stop his yearly 1.4 trillion dollar deficit spending? What is Obama’s plan to avoid the “reconciliation” financial cliff? What is Obama’s plan to handle the debt ceiling when he hits it in early 2013? What is Obama’s plan to shore up a bankrupt Social Security program? What is Obama’s plan to make Medicare solvent? What is Obama’s plan to keep Social Security and all other entitlements even with inflation and currency devaluation? What is Obama’s plan to help people cope with rising fuel and electricity costs? What is Obama’s plan to shore up the stock market so that pensions, insurance companies, municipal bonds, endowment funds and savings accounts remain whole and keep up with inflation and currency devaluation? What is Obama’s plan to stop the Quantitative Easing scheme? What is Obama’s plan to restart the engine of private enterprise? What is Obama’s plan to get 23 million people back to work? What is Obama’s plan to pay off the national debt which is in large part owned by the FED and, thus, the people of the United States?

    mike is a fiscal conservative.

    mike certainly has thought this through and mike has plenty of answers to enlighten us, one and all.

    mike, you are not Shane. Your job is not done here. You have taken the cat bird seat, so bring it on. As Ross Perot once said, “I’m all ears.”

    Comment by heliotrope — November 8, 2012 @ 8:45 am - November 8, 2012

  30. I have never understood the phrase “socially liberal fiscal conservative”

    Governor Arnold Schwarzeneggar.

    How did that work out?

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 8:58 am - November 8, 2012

  31. 1. I think Romney didn’t have conservative appeal-I think a lot of people viewed Romney as somebody who would shed te conservative cloak and be a democrat lite and didn’t trust that.

    I also wonder if some people were jaded by the process and just decided voting wouldn’t make a difference and stayed home.

    Votes were down for Obama too-I think he had even more people stay home, he just had a larger total from 2008 to begin with. That tells me the “sick of the process” may be a factor.

    I also read somewhere (Powerline maybe but not positive) that perhaps votes were way down, because the vast majority of the campaign only occurred in a few battleground states. For much of the nation they rarely saw anything much more than an occasional mail flyer. If you feel left out of the campaign process, then maybe you just decide to opt out of the process altogether.

    As for how to reach out to minorities-

    #1 reach out between election cycles. Spend time talking to representatives of these groups, get to know them. Make them feel like you care. Then when it comes time for the election cycle, perhaps ovetures won’t be viewed with mistrust.

    I have already said-at this point I think the GOP could pass a full on ope borders policy with amnesty included for everyone forever who comes here illegally, and it wouldn’t help. The democrats have sold and sold well to the hispanics tat the GOP hates brown people and they have bought it. The GOP needs to reach out in ways that puts the “hates brown people” to death.

    I also think at the moment, the various minorities are suckered in by the whole “free stuff” issue. The minority groups are going to have to take their blinders off to hear any kind of GOP message and act on it.

    I do think the GOP needs to make a case for small business support. Many latino and asian immigrants and citizens are small business owners.

    Oh and it is time for the government to work together to create an immigration reform bill. I watched a great interview with Rubio and a similar with McCain a few weeks ago. Both men were working independently of each other on trying to pull together a bipartisan coalition to deal with immigration reform. McCain and Rubio were both ticked and felt like they had their legs cut out from under them on the issue, when Obama signed his dream act order.

    This is where Obama really does suck as a president. He gets petulant and does what he pleases, when what he should have done was contacted both men and a few democrats also interested in reform, and brokered a bill that they could pass.

    You would think a guy who served in the senate would know and understand how things work, but then in reality, we knew from his 2008 run that Obama really didn’t really get inolved in too many bills. The few US senate bills he had his name on were after the fact deals and he wasn’t particularly involved in the development process.

    Comment by Just Me — November 8, 2012 @ 9:04 am - November 8, 2012

  32. #1 reach out between election cycles… in ways that puts the “hates brown people” to death. I also think at the moment, the various minorities are suckered in by the whole “free stuff” issue. The minority groups are going to have to take their blinders off to hear any kind of GOP message and act on it.

    Agree. Yes, the GOP must build up its campaign infra among non-whites. But this is, after all, a democracy. The electorate has to want your message. A conservative / small government message will win when Obama’s America has gotten that much worse, meaning, when the electorate realizes itself that “free stuff” must be reined in and that real issues must be dealt with (rather than Big Bird, binders and contraception).

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 8, 2012 @ 10:17 am - November 8, 2012

  33. Friend of mine, wrote this about the aftermath and the calls to pander to ‘groups’ rather than to what works. http://isthisblogon.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/aftermath/

    ” But what I sense lurking beneath that suggestion is that we take a more Jeb Bush approach to introducing ourselves to Hispanics — that is, we treat them as separate identity group to which we must promise special dispensations — rather than the approach we should have been taking all along, which was to introduce Hispanics to the ideas of individual sovereignty, religious liberty, a stable rule of law, and a system of government that, at its ideological core, promotes industriousness and innovation, freedom and self-reliance….”

    Now Mike, how do you do that when government whores are giving them someone else’s hard earned wealth, in exchange for a vote? Especially government whores doubling down on giving ‘illegals’ all sorts of freebies, including a ballot, in the attempt to break down our traditions and rule of law, for their own nefarious purpose.

    Who are they going to vote for, the guy giving them my money, or the guy telling them you broke the law, you are not a citizen, you get nothing (as they should. I couldn’t do that in their country)

    Read the whole thing, she has good points.

    Comment by Annie — November 8, 2012 @ 10:36 am - November 8, 2012

  34. A conservative black blogger, who is a guest on the local radio show once or twice a week is incensed over this whole ‘must reach out to minority’ stuff. He’s pissed about the immigration issue because many illegal hispanics are getting the jobs while blacks are left to fester. Why pander to hispanics with amnesty……if you want to come here, there are channels to do so. Do it lawfully, like everyone else in line. But it’s easier and more profitable to be an illegal than someone who does it through the lawful channels (speaking of which are discriminatory to white Europeans – thanks Ted Kennedy).

    His attitude is one of the GOP is not conservative enough and establishment types – democrat lites – won’t or don’t know how to relay the message of smaller government, rule of law = more liberty, for everyone.

    Comment by Annie — November 8, 2012 @ 10:50 am - November 8, 2012

  35. The ‘clerisy’. Your overlords. Linked from the above. I dont’ want to be a part of it either.

    http://www.joelkotkin.com/content/00643-despite-great-recession-obama%E2%80%99s-new-coalition-elites-has-thrived

    But don’t mourn too much for Obama, who’s held his own in the cash race by assembling a new, competing coalition of wealthy backers, from the “new hierarchies of technical elites” that Daniel Bell predicted in 1976 in The Coming Of Post-Industrial Society. For that group, Bell wrote, nature and human nature ceased to be central, as “fewer now handle artifacts or things” so that “reality is primarily the social world”—which, he warned, “gives rise to a new Utopianism” that mistakenly treats human nature as something that can be engineered and corrected by instruction from their enlightened betters. This approach, although often grounded in good intention, can easily morph into a technocratic authoritarianism.

    Comment by Annie — November 8, 2012 @ 11:04 am - November 8, 2012

  36. 1. It’s very difficult to unseat an incumbent president. Everything considered, Romney was not the flawed candidate we’d now like to think he is any more than he was the stellar candidate we hoped he was.
    2. Then again, the US is the land of close presidential elections. We rarely experience popular landslides. This is partly a product of the Electoral College, as it forces candidates to focus on larger swing states rather than rely on an exclusively urban-centric campaign.
    3. Anyone who equates outreach with pandering has no business in American politics. Anyone who thinks they’ll never need to engage in outreach might last a while, but not forever.
    4. If capitalism doesn’t survive beyond a barter system in a post-apocalyptic dystopian future, we are to blame for not having made our case. Education is key and I would begin by making Economics a requirement for graduation.
    5. Reagan said “The soul of republicanism is libertarianism.” I’m beginning to think it should resemble the body as well.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 11:28 am - November 8, 2012

  37. I was five years old when Ronald Reagan was first elected in 1980. My grandfather, a Black Republican, voted for him. Reagan’s message of patriotism, that anybody from any place could be a winner on their own in America, was what united people of all facets with him… even though America was predominantly White.
    Fast forward to 2012. America is now no longer mostly White. The call of the day is multiculturalism: keepin’ it real, viva la raza, out and proud, reproductive rights, on and on. And this is founded on “getting Whitey”, or at least those who disagree with the entitlement mindset. The biggest proponents are non-patriotic White liberals like mike, who can use minorities to empower themselves by promising them “rights”. That’s why people voted for revenge instead of love of country. Patriotism, the GOP trademark, just won’t work anymore. It’s considered racist because it doesn’t appeal to their cultures. Until the GOP can find a way to encourage independent capitalism without having predatory liberals like mike pointing out something they can call racist, what we have right now will simply have to continue.

    Comment by Douglas — November 8, 2012 @ 12:15 pm - November 8, 2012

  38. The Asians have no problem with the GOP. They, or to be specific, the Catholic ones, are having a problem with Mitt’s religion, from what I can see. The neighborhood I live in are full of Asian & SEAsian Catholics and NONE (exaggerated to make a point) of them came out to vote for Mitt even though they came out en masse for McCain. Of course many many of them have to work two jobs to make ends meet now and that was the excuse when I asked them why they didn’t come out to vote on Tuesday. But I think the real reason is something else. I don’t know what the Mormons are doing in Asia to piss them off but that seems to be the reason.

    Comment by Me — November 8, 2012 @ 12:25 pm - November 8, 2012

  39. I can think of another question conservatives could ask:

    Why are conservatives surprised by the result of this election?

    The information was there. Polling indicated Obama had safe leads and multiple paths to 270 consistently since the Republican primary. One month ago, every conservative in the country just knew that all the polling was wrong, that the media was dutifully distorting the poll results to demotivate conservatives and cover for Obama’s failures.

    So conservatives ignored or discounted the polls, and instead decided to believe that they were going to win because their gut told them so, or because of subjective estimates of how many signs you saw this year compared to 4 years ago, or because Benghazi would send voters Romney’s way, or because of the alleged enthusiasm of the conservative base, or any number of other desperate explanations that you guys traded between yourselves so you could sleep night. All along, of course, there was Fox News, feeding you a punditry that would give you these reassurances, and confirming in your mind that Obama was the worst President of all time with hysterical special reports, occasionally singling out a poll or two that indicated Romney had legitimate shot at winning in Pennsylvania or Michigan or Wisconsin… all of it baseless, all of it wishful thinking, all of it in pursuit of an agenda.

    What this makes abundantly clear (as if it wasn’t already) is that, despite their claims of a coordinated media conspiracy against them, it’s actually conservatives who seek out and exclusively consume the most biased media sources in the country. The ultimate result of this election was predicted months ago, and the specific, state-by-state results were predicted weeks ago. The information was there and it proved accurate, but conservatives didn’t know about it because accurate and objective information isn’t on the menu in conservative media. They’re running a brutal scam on you guys, telling what you want to hear instead of the truth, insisting that the rest of the media is lying and trying to manipulate you so that you keep coming back to them. Now that the cards are on the table and all of their predictions and hunches are exposed for the wishful thinking and pandering that they are, don’t you think it might be a good idea to diversify your information sources a little bit?

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 12:44 pm - November 8, 2012

  40. I do agree that conservatives insulate themselves, seeking echo chambers and choirs to preach to. Liberals do the same. I for one thought the election would be close but that Romney had a strong chance of winning. I wasn’t wrong — it’s just that the results weren’t what I had hoped for and what some polls were stating. As for Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, it turns out that some conservatives stayed home even though polling made clear that the race in these states was close to very close. No credible conservative was predicting we’d win California or New Jersey. Considering the rough financial seas we face and considering most blame or credit the president for our economic state rather than congress, perhaps this loss was a long-term blessing.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 12:55 pm - November 8, 2012

  41. it’s actually conservatives who seek out and exclusively consume the most biased media sources in the country.

    Levi, the MSM bias is palpable.

    You can not speak without making an ass of yourself by using hyperbole. To wit: “conservatives seek out and EXCLUSIVELY CONSUME THE MOST BIASED MEDIA SOURCES IN THE COUNTRY.”

    Of course, FOXNews (or Faux News) is certainly on the top of your target list.

    From what intellectually reliable source or sources do you draw upon to make your imbecilic claim remotely credible?

    Comment by heliotrope — November 8, 2012 @ 1:16 pm - November 8, 2012

  42. Go look at the votes of the % of people of color who voted this year.
    Its a scary trend for Republicans and one that can’t continue. Do you really think a few pictures on the TV screen would sway anyone? Do you think Americans are that stupid?

    Yes, kept that way in failing schools run by democrat owned unions and Obamaphones and food stamps and free healthcare, etc. etc.

    Comment by Annie — November 8, 2012 @ 1:17 pm - November 8, 2012

  43. Encouraging conservatives to seek out alternative points of view is quite different than a liberal seeking conservative sites in order to troll them. In our case, one engages in the other.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 1:26 pm - November 8, 2012

  44. Mea culpa. We were dead wrong about the polls. Not only did the Real Clear Politics poll of polls end up being almost perfectly precise, but the most accurate pollster of the 2012 election cycle ended up being the Daily Kos’ Public Policy Polling (PPP). My guys, Gallup and Rasmussen, didn’t even make the top twenty. And that’s the bad news; not that we were wrong, but that what seemed inconceivable isn’t: the 2008 electorate wasn’t an anomaly. The electorate (at least with a Democrat presidential candidate at the top of the ticket) has shifted. That doesn’t mean our ideas are wrong or that the GOP must change its core convictions. But it does mean that tactically we have to wrap our heads around that fact that Democrats have the ability to summon enough voters required to eke out victory. Moreover, Democrats were able to do this during a year where it seemed enthusiasm would all be on our side, not theirs. Monday we were 100% sure this wasn’t reality. We certainly weren’t alone in this belief, but we were wrong — not the polls, not Nate Silver, not Chuck Todd, not anyone in the media.

    John Nolte @ Breitbart

    Comment by rusty — November 8, 2012 @ 1:40 pm - November 8, 2012

  45. 3. Anyone who equates outreach with pandering has no business in American politics. Anyone who thinks they’ll never need to engage in outreach might last a while, but not forever.

    I think outreach is pandering, when a candidate makes overtures to various minorities during the election season.

    I think outreach should also involve making a case for why GOP values are good for them, not promising more free stuff (although I do think there needs a real discussion about immigration and illegal immigration and I also think the left needs to stop equating all immigration with illegal immigration and any deal/law passed regarding immigration needs to address the business end of the equation). One thing I was always told when I lived in the south is that Mexican immigrants were the ONLY people willing to do various farming and landscape jobs.

    Strangely enough I live in lily white New Hampshire and there are plenty of white people who do landscaping, food service and other jobs that supposedly Americans won’t do.

    Comment by Just Me — November 8, 2012 @ 1:56 pm - November 8, 2012

  46. I do agree that conservatives insulate themselves, seeking echo chambers and choirs to preach to. Liberals do the same. I for one thought the election would be close but that Romney had a strong chance of winning. I wasn’t wrong — it’s just that the results weren’t what I had hoped for and what some polls were stating. As for Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, it turns out that some conservatives stayed home even though polling made clear that the race in these states was close to very close. No credible conservative was predicting we’d win California or New Jersey.

    You’re right. It’s human nature to gravitate towards the things that reinforce your point of view, and liberals have their preferred outlets and columnists and all that, too. What you don’t see among liberals, however, is this tendency to blame every failure and disappointment on some external institution carrying out a massive conspiracy against the Democrats. ‘The mainstream media’ is a catch-all explanation for virtually everything that plagues Republicans, from policy arguments to election results. At one time, it may have helped your party, but it is almost assuredly creating problems for you at this point because it’s directing all of the conservatives’ criticism towards the media and away from the Republican establishment. This goes a long way towards an explanation for why so many conservative pundits and politicians so enthusiastically endorse these liberal media conspiracy theories – it’s a way for them to deflect criticism and accountability.

    Take the two GOP Senate candidates that handed their races to the Democrats because they couldn’t stop themselves from waxing poetic about abortion and rape victims. If it were me, I’d want to know how these people got through a primary and why they received any national support or resources. I also might be re-evaluating the wisdom of abandoning the rape exception in the party platform. But no, instead, we have conservatives complaining about how the media is covering the story, conservatives upset that the media is twisting their words around, conservatives whining about the Democrats calling this proof of the Republican’s war on women and the media using that terminology, conservatives bitching about why this story is covered and not whatever is the Fox News outrage-of-the-week. And of course, with the media absorbing all of the conservatives’ criticisms and complaints, the Republican establishment quietly lets itself out the back door. No wonder your guys’ primary was such a freak show – nobody is ever put through their paces or held to account, because it’s always easier to blame the media. See Sarah Palin.

    I imagine the disappointment that many of you feeling right now is quite similar to my disappointment in 2004, when I was voting in my first presidential and when I was idealistic and optimistic and hopelessly naive. I couldn’t believe Kerry lost, but I also didn’t make any excuses for him. I thought Howard Dean should have been the nominee, and I thought we were crazy to be nominating someone who had voted multiple times for George Bush’s wars. I acknowledged the effects of certain external elements: Karl Rove getting gay marriage on so many ballots, the inherent advantages of an incumbent politician in a time of war, voting trickery in Ohio, etc., but ultimately I understood that it was stupid for the party to nominate someone to oppose George Bush who had failed to oppose George Bush after having so many opportunities to do so.

    Considering the rough financial seas we face and considering most blame or credit the president for our economic state rather than congress, perhaps this loss was a long-term blessing.

    I like you Ingatius, your posts are much better than most of what’s put by the conservatives around here, but you have to admit that the economy is likely to improve in the next 4 years, and that the worst case scenario, socialist nightmare that so many on the right were predicting four years ago is not likely to materialize. Recessions do eventually just run out of gas.

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 1:58 pm - November 8, 2012

  47. Levi, the MSM bias is palpable.

    You can not speak without making an ass of yourself by using hyperbole. To wit: “conservatives seek out and EXCLUSIVELY CONSUME THE MOST BIASED MEDIA SOURCES IN THE COUNTRY.”

    Of course, FOXNews (or Faux News) is certainly on the top of your target list.

    From what intellectually reliable source or sources do you draw upon to make your imbecilic claim remotely credible?

    Does my own, direct, personal experience with legions of Fox News viewers count?

    And in case you didn’t realize, we just had an election that put this thesis to the test. If you’d been following Fox News, you would have been shocked at this result, whereas if you were following the New York Times, you would have known the ultimate winner in literally all 50 states. So who is lying to their audience? Who is twisting the facts in service of their political agenda? If the mainstream media’s bias is so palpable, you would expect their polling would reflect that, giving Obama good odds to win states like Indiana and Missouri, or having huge, double-digit margins in places like Virginia and Florida and Ohio, wouldn’t you?

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 2:20 pm - November 8, 2012

  48. What you don’t see among liberals, however, is this tendency to blame every failure and disappointment on some external institution carrying out a massive conspiracy against the Democrats.

    Spoken by the party that screamed “vast right-wing conspiracy”.

    Spoken by the party that insisted that any criticism of Obama was a racist conspiracy.

    Spoken by the party that insisted that targets drawn on a map program people to kill.

    Spoken by the party that insisted that Romney would turn the United States into a Mormon theocracy.

    The mistake Republicans made was assuming that the electorate was primarily made up of adults. It is not. It is made up of imbecilic children like you, Levi, who proudly proclaim that you will never vote for a Republican no matter how awful the Obama Party candidate is.

    Romney and Ryan made the mistake of trying to appeal to rational and intelligent people. If they wanted to win, they should have crafted an appeal to the demographic of people who insist that raping women, coercing women into sex when they’re drunk, and “forgetting” to have safe sex is no worse than watching too much reality TV or paying too much for coffee — which is the overwhelming Obama base, and of which you are the prime example.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 2:29 pm - November 8, 2012

  49. A couple of thoughts to digest:

    1) The Romney vote total will surpass that of McCain once all of the votes are tallied. In 2008, several million votes were added to both sides almost 2 weeks after the election. The bigger question of why the right did not “significantly” increase their turnout still persists.

    2) Any suggestion of turning the Republican Party into “Democrat Lite” is BS! Don’t sell out fiscal conservatism. That is not to say we should ignor the social lessons of this election. Same sex marriage, abortion, immigration are all issues the right needs to come to grips with and face as a Party – not to adopt the Left’s position but to find positions amenable to the public that does not violate our fiscal responsbilities – and communicate them more effectively.

    3) Conservatives and the Republican Party have to counter the “Axis of Evil” tag the left has put on them. And that is how we are perceived. We as a Party have never planned to do any of the things I have heard people claim we would do – ban abortion, take away food stamps, start another war, take away Medicare from the elderly, cut social security immediately, force cats & dogs to live together – all of the things Conservatives have been accused of endorsing. But that is the perceived mindset of the general populace and I have heard it from the mouths of many who I know to have some modicum of intelligence. We are as we are perceived and we have to destroy that perception.

    4) Next, we need to be far more selective in the candidates we put forward to the public and we need to provide them with communication training and skills to avoid another Akin brain fart.

    5) Lastly, we need to develop communication strategies that overcome media bias. I don’t know what all of these could be but I do know so long as we allow the MSM to set the tone and agenda for any future political campaigns we will be down as much as 15% before the first vote is even counted.

    Comment by SShiell — November 8, 2012 @ 2:35 pm - November 8, 2012

  50. Levi, Thanks and I for one do appreciate that you engage us. I’m also glad that you can recognize different styles of debate, indicating good faith from both you and from those who are willing to converse with you in a civilized manner. Seriously, thank you.I do agree with you that conservatives and their bloggers blame the media to a nauseating degree. It’s intellectually lazy, professionally lazy, boring, misguided, and ultimately unhelpful. There is absolutely no doubt that the major networks with the exception of Fox (which you liberals call ‘Faux News’ in fits of pique and in fits of the very illness your post concerns) are anti-conservative. Honest liberals and Democrats agree, which they do when I press them in real life conversation. But continuing to blame the ‘legacy media’ with blog post after blog post, chiming in with reinforcement day after day is a mechanism to shift responsibility, to find some reason why our country is so different than what we grew up in, and to personify, to anthropomorphize the ideologies we see as destructive.I do believe that most Democrats and Republicans agree on some very important issues (or agree as to the end goals if not the methods — or agree in enough areas that some progress might satisfy both) but that our 24/7 media cycle has given prominence to ‘news’ shows seeking ratings, those ratings sustained by the most shrill voices, and those shrill voices now steering a confused and largely ignorant electorate.In some ways, I wish we’d jettison the party system and focus entirely on what a candidate says instead of the letter behind his/her name. Even if that were achieved, however, a similar de facto system would immediately emerge; the urge to categorize is innately human. That includes calling Republicans racists if they suggest cutting back the SNAP program or Democrats Marxists if they suggest we cannot balance our budgets without increased tax revenues in the form of higher taxes.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 2:53 pm - November 8, 2012

  51. Recessions do eventually just run out of gas.

    So: Use the recession as an excuse to impose socialist/fascist policies, then wait year after year after year, as those terrible policies prevent recovery and make the recession drag on. Because eventually, good and productive people will just have to start working to improve their lives again.

    It worked for the Democrats in the Great Depression. Well, not really. The economy recovered after 1945, when SUPPLY-SIDE TAX CUTS were imposed, and much of the New Deal / WW2 central planning of the economy was dismantled. It only “worked”, in left-wing mythology.

    If you seriously think that America isn’t headed for a crisis bigger than 2008, you could not be more deeply enmeshed in the Matrix. (World of lies, constructed to keep you enslaved.)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 8, 2012 @ 3:08 pm - November 8, 2012

  52. Levi, Thanks and I for one do appreciate that you engage us. I’m also glad that you can recognize different styles of debate, indicating good faith from both you and from those who are willing to converse with you in a civilized manner. Seriously, thank you.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 2:53 pm – November 8, 2012

    Uh huh.

    If you’re an idiot, and you’re trying to help some other idiot get into a position of power to drag down civilization with your collective idiocy, the smarter among your countrymen are going to have some harsh words for you. I’m smarter than most conservatives, this is beyond any doubt. I’m also a better person – you guys have given up any claim to that argument with your morally decrepit positions on torture and wars. If that sounds condescending, it’s because it is. And you should probably spend more of your time teaching yourself things and thinking, rather than complain about the mean people that make fun off you for not being very smart.

    People like you need people like me to drag you kicking and screaming into the future. The entire scope of human history has been a march of liberalism, and this jingoistic, laissez-faire, God-fearing path you fools are prescribing is only knocking us off the right track.

    Comment by Levi — February 8, 2010 @ 11:22 pm – February 8, 2010

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 3:44 pm - November 8, 2012

  53. Recessions do eventually just run out of gas.

    Levi you do realize the recession has been officially over for 3 years. This is the recovery, which from where I sit doesn’t feel like a recovery at all.

    I think we are just as likely to go into another recession as to have a thriving recovery.

    Also, everyone who thinks things are all rosy still doesn’t grasp what the reality of Obamacare is going to be.

    Two things are certain:

    1. Everyone’s insurance is going to increase no matter what the democrats told you when you they passed this bill. My insurance has gone up every year and it jumped up a large amount to comply with aspects of Obamacare. My daughter’s insurance through her college was 1,100 her first year. This year it went up to 2,800. They kindly told us it was due to compliance with Obamacare rules.

    2. People who are now working full time are going to have their hours cut to part time. Our nation is soon to become a nation of low skilled workers working 2 or 3 part time jobs, because employers can avoid Obamacare mandates and penalties by moving people to part time work.

    Comment by Just Me — November 8, 2012 @ 3:47 pm - November 8, 2012

  54. Just Me, my place of business and places like it, have already cut to part time for that reason.

    Comment by Annie — November 8, 2012 @ 6:34 pm - November 8, 2012

  55. blam[ing] the media… It’s intellectually lazy

    Wow, that must be Iggy-speak for “true”.

    Notice how the economic news has suddenly turned negative – now that Obama can no longer be hurt by it? I do. Because I saw it coming. As a regular Zero Hedge reader, I was well aware of some negative developments out there, that the media were abnormally quiet on, the last couple months of the campaign. And never mind the Benghazi media malpractice.

    I’ll concede your point that some may reach for the “media bias” explanation too quickly.

    Still, it’s real. The most powerful form of it is, what the media does *not* say; the selection of stories. Stories sometimes bubble up beyond the media’s control, but more often the media gets to pick and choose what will be a story. With shocking frequency, the media is silent about important stories that could hurt Democrats. Thus, our voters, who are mostly “low information” to begin with, vote without having all the information. In commercial contexts, that would result in prosecution for fraud.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 8, 2012 @ 7:02 pm - November 8, 2012

  56. Back to your old self, I see. If you read my comment carefully, you’ll notice that I agree that the media is biased overall but what I object to is constantly mentioning it (as if one expects a different result and/or as if no one else notices it) day in/day out. It’s intellectually lazy because at some point, it substitutes (for many) the much-needed introspection required for a well-founded position in the marketplace of competing ideas. Complaining about ‘the media’ is posing as thinking. Analyzing a particular comment from a media source or figure re. a specific issue is usually more interesting because it reveals a particular aspect or mindset; simply using ‘the media’ as an amorphous, undefined scapegoat doesn’t help to better understand ourselves and the society we live in. So, is the media biased? Is the question even necessary, particularly among conservatives/libertarians/non-brain-dead?

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 8:22 pm - November 8, 2012

  57. heliotrope
    I agree. Obama is a failure at all you listed. This is why I want an electable GOP party to through the dems out of office.

    “Yes, kept that way in failing schools run by democrat owned unions and Obamaphones and food stamps and free healthcare, etc. etc.”

    This is NOT the lessons of the election the GOP should take. GOP needs to find ways to make these programs more effective and challenge the Dems in their home court.

    Comment by mike — November 8, 2012 @ 9:37 pm - November 8, 2012

  58. It’s quite simple. Most people vote on emotion. The biggest problem was having almost no, if any, black or Hispanic people behind him when he gave speeches. He did not stress enough what he can do for the individual. “When I am president, you’ll have more money in YOUR pocket. YOU will be free from regulations to pursue YOUR dreams. It’s none of my business who you marry, what religion you are, or what you want out of life and I’ll make sure to get as much as I can out of your way. The Democrats have told you time and time again that I want to take away this that or the other thing, but what I want is to stay out of your way. etc.”
    Honestly, the majority has spoken and they don’t care about The Constitution, or the law, or foreign policy, principles, or the USA, but they care about what they can get. Promising them free stuff would be violating Republican principles, but promising them to get out of their way so they can pursue their property, promising them to stay out of their business, and not discussing the petty issues like PBS funding out of the picture (unless it’s to address a lie made by the other candidate). The democrats bribe them with other people’s money. Republicans can bribe them with opportunity and liberty. Oh yeah, and the social conservatives need to KEEP THEIR PERSONAL RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS. The perception that the social conservatives will commit social engineering and dictate behavior was a major factor.

    Comment by AZ Mo in NYC — November 8, 2012 @ 10:57 pm - November 8, 2012

  59. John McCain and Mitt Romney both ran moderate campaigns that eschewed social issues.

    How did that work out for them?

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 11:15 pm - November 8, 2012

  60. I agree. Obama is a failure at all you listed. This is why I want an electable GOP party to through the dems out of office.

    But instead, you voted for all Obama, all the time, straight ticket, give all the power to the Obama Party.

    We’re laughing. Not at what you’re saying, but at what a miserable failure you are as a concern troll.

    This is NOT the lessons of the election the GOP should take. GOP needs to find ways to make these programs more effective and challenge the Dems in their home court.

    Comment by mike — November 8, 2012 @ 9:37 pm – November 8, 2012

    Why would anyone want that?

    These programs exist under one basic premise: those who work do not deserve their own money, and instead should be forced under threat of punishment and/or imprisonment to give it to those who do not.

    That premise is flawed. Those who work deserve to earn and keep their own money. Those who do not are entitled to nothing other than common kindness and charity, neither of which are enforced at gunpoint.

    You are telling Republicans that the way to get elected is to become more fiscally irresponsible and failed like the Obama Party for which you voted and which you fully endorse and support has done.

    No. You will take your medicine. Obama purchased you. Obama and the Obama Party bought you and over half of the country with promises of free stuff at other peoples’ expense.

    You are a looter and a moocher, mike. You aren’t man enough to earn your own money, and you aren’t man enough to outright engage in robbery. Instead you try to twist and pervert government to do what you don’t have the courage to do.

    Liberalism is sick and perverse. A majority of the country now believes that they are entitled to live off other peoples’ earnings and that they are not in any way required to work. This is the disease that liberalism has created, and Obama is the virus.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 9, 2012 @ 3:12 am - November 9, 2012

  61. Concern trolls always play this game. “Oh, if only the GOP would nominate a nice moderate like John McCain or George H W Bush. Then, I could vote for him.” Then, when he actually runs, they decide he’s evil and stupid like all the other Republicans and they vote for the Democrat.

    Happens every time. This is why concern trolls should be ignored.

    Comment by V the K — November 9, 2012 @ 5:37 am - November 9, 2012

  62. Concern trolls always play this game. “Oh, if only the GOP would nominate a nice moderate like John McCain or George H W Bush. Then, I could vote for him.” Then, when he actually runs, they decide he’s evil and stupid like all the other Republicans and they vote for the Democrat.

    This is so true.

    I think from here on out, anyone who is a registered democrat or a left leaning independent tells me they might vote for X republican-I intend to stick an X by their name as the guy who won’t get elected.

    Also, the left always demonizes the GOP’s candidate, and the media always provides helpful assists. Obama’s surrogates accused Romney of killing a man’s wife.

    Comment by Just Me — November 9, 2012 @ 7:20 am - November 9, 2012

  63. Back to your old self, I see.

    Never left it. You make a poor point, I say what I think.

    But by all means, play with Levi if you would rather. It’s a free country. LOL :-)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 9, 2012 @ 11:37 pm - November 9, 2012

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