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  1. I think he will too, but since the GOP is out of the winning business, we might as well congratulate Christie if he goes….and wins…..he’d be a hell of a lot better than anyone similar to Obama in governing.

    Comment by Terri — November 8, 2012 @ 8:02 am - November 8, 2012

  2. And yet, if it were Christie in office now, even as a Democrat, I would be a whole lot happier!

    Comment by Terri — November 8, 2012 @ 8:15 am - November 8, 2012

  3. You may be right about Christie, but I for one think it’d be a mistake. Yes, he shouldn’t have been so effusive in his praises for Obama, but I have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt; I believe he *didn’t* have any other agenda, and was simply interested in getting help for New Jerseyians.

    Did he go overboard? Yeah. Poor judgement? Probably. Did it have a little bit to do with swinging the election to Obama? Eh… maybe a very, *very* tiny bit. I’d venture that this would have very little impact with high-info voters. And low-info voters would have just seen the President being presidential, and probably would’ve not even realized (or cared) that Christie was the keynote speaker for Romney.

    I think people are going overboard with this. One of the comments at the DC link really struck me. “Any politician who represents their constituents at the expense of their party is definitely a democrat.”

    What? Really? Something like this is what I *demand* of my politicians… put their constituents ahead of party. IMHO, it’s those types of comments that are so indicative of what’s wrong w/our country.

    Comment by Dale — November 8, 2012 @ 8:28 am - November 8, 2012

  4. I’m tempted to just say the GOP should just give the Narcissist what he wants. Let all the Bush tax rates expire. Let sequestration happen. Let the EPA run amok with no regard to the economic consequences of environmental extremism. Raise the debt ceiling to $20 Trillion.

    It’s what the people voted for. So, let them have it.

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 8:55 am - November 8, 2012

  5. I was also surprised to. Sure, you act professionally during such a crisis, including working with others you are normally opposed to, but it did appear Christie went overboard. Andrew Cuomo didn’t fawn nearly as much. It could mean any of the following: a) nothing; b) Christie, who initially (and quite early in the campaign) endorsed Romney, started having second thoughts; c) Is seeking the nomination in 2016 (as many have thought), and is now trying to come across as someone who can work with Democrats; d) deliberately tried to sabotage his chances of becoming a viable candidate in 2016; or perhaps more likely e) none of the above, and this was done for some reason no one has even thought about.

    I honestly don’t think he’ll switch parties. And even if he did, I don’t think he would be an heir-apparent to Obama (although your point about there being no heir-apparent at this point is on the money). I have to wonder that with eight years of a Democratic presidency, if Democrats feel there is little chance they’ll win in 4 years (even if the fiscal cliff is averted, and the economy really improves).

    Christie has not committed to running for re-election for governor yet. And given these past two weeks, I don’t know whatever thoughts he had regarding re-election has changed.

    Comment by Pat — November 8, 2012 @ 9:11 am - November 8, 2012

  6. Given that he did so much to aggravate Republicans by what many saw as going beyond the customary magnanimous gratitude during a crisis and instead displayed what they considered way-overboard fawning obsequiousness toward the president on the eve of a national election, Chris Christie isn’t in any position to win a Republican primary…

    Can we all remember this post the next time someone around here complains about how partisan and divisive the Democrats are? Republicans are ready to give away one of their leading candidates for 2016 because he was saying too many nice things about the Democratic president during an unprecedented natural disaster that devastated his state… and you people would have me believe that it’s the Democrats who are abrasive and petulant and stubborn and hyper-partisan?

    This is especially funny because any moron should be able to see how these statements could be of huge help to Christie with moderates, independents, and Democrats during a 2016 general election, and here you are ruling him out in the primaries. You’re probably right, which is why conservatism is such a joke and produced such a terrible roster of candidates this year.

    The other funny part is that Christie didn’t abandon conservatism or praise liberalism with any of these comments, and he is presumably the exact same person in terms of politics and ideology that Republicans have always been so enthusiastic about. He just said a few nice things about Barack Obama, and for this he must be punished. This is a great example of the religious/cult-like nature of the conservative movement – whatever you do, never say anything that contradicts the Republican dogma. In this case, Christie dispelled the conservatives’ much-beloved myths about Obama’s incompetence and poor leadership. And just like in religion, these central assumptions are so crucial to the core beliefs of conservatives that anyone who challenges them must be dismissed as a heretic or an agitator. You guys are ready to cannibalize one of your own, not because he’s abandoned conservative policies, but because he said something complimentary about a Democrat’s assistance during a once-in-a-lifetime crisis.

    So remind me again – which side is more divisive? Which side is less willing to cooperate?

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 9:19 am - November 8, 2012

  7. Levi is, once again, the Queen of Not Getting It.

    Add “Timing” and “Loyalty” to the list of things Levi doesn’t get; like Math and Economics. Christie could have graciously accepted the SCOAMF’s presence without going overboard and giving him a campaign commercial. Not even Mikhail Bloomberg made himself into a re-election prop the way Christie did.

    Then again, not getting it is sort of Levi’s thing, you know?

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 9:29 am - November 8, 2012

  8. Christie has done a great job on NJ’s (Democrat- and union-induced) fiscal crisis.

    Now we know that he gets emotional and wobbly, which may make him unsuited to be president. So, what? He’d still be a much better president than Obama. If the Democrats had politicians like Christie who are capable of confronting budget crisis, I (as an American) would be thrilled.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 8, 2012 @ 9:50 am - November 8, 2012

  9. He’d still be a much better president than Obama.

    A zygote would be a better president than the SCOAMF.

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 9:51 am - November 8, 2012

  10. I agree with Terri. I think we’ve allowed the GOP to become a damaged brand. From short discussions with liberals on election night, they get the message of personal freedom and fiscal responsibility. They know about the unions and the pension issues. They will agree almost everything but in the end, they just CAN’T vote for a Republican, despite how uncomfortable they are with the far left. If the country has reached that point where it is no longer a center-right country, the best we can hope for is to keep it a center-left country and not cede to the extreme left. Maybe we start running our candidates as Democrats because at least they’ll get heard. It’s not the party that I’m attached to, it’s the ideals and how we get to that end is what is important. If we started running moderate libertarian type Republicans as Democrats, they could attack the current far-left democrats as the extremists they are without getting neutralized as some “right-wing” extremists.

    Comment by Chris H — November 8, 2012 @ 10:58 am - November 8, 2012

  11. Christie has done a great job on NJ’s (Democrat- and union-induced) fiscal crisis.

    Now we know that he gets emotional and wobbly, which may make him unsuited to be president. So, what? He’d still be a much better president than Obama. If the Democrats had politicians like Christie who are capable of confronting budget crisis, I (as an American) would be thrilled.

    ILC, with the exception that his emotionality would make him unfit for the presidency, I agree with you here. I don’t worry about the guys who wear their emotions on their sleeves, thus showing us that feelings may be playing into decisions. He has people around him to help keep that in check. I fear the ones who hide their emotions. Hidden rages are much more difficult to fight against. That person may make a decision based on emotions and sell it to us as reason, yet we don’t realize the deception until it’s too late.

    Comment by Sonicfrog — November 8, 2012 @ 11:18 am - November 8, 2012

  12. Levi is, once again, the Queen of Not Getting It.

    Add “Timing” and “Loyalty” to the list of things Levi doesn’t get; like Math and Economics. Christie could have graciously accepted the SCOAMF’s presence without going overboard and giving him a campaign commercial. Not even Mikhail Bloomberg made himself into a re-election prop the way Christie did.

    Then again, not getting it is sort of Levi’s thing, you know?

    My point exactly. A Republican made a cooperative, gracious, reaching-across-the-aisle, bipartisan gesture towards a Democrat, and conservatives are prepared to crucify him for it because of timing and loyalty. All I’m saying is that the next time you guys are lamenting the lack of bipartisanship and fretting about the divisiveness (it happens on a daily basis around here), you should remember this little episode, because it’s a perfect example that demonstrates how your side is almost entirely responsible for all of it.

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 11:30 am - November 8, 2012

  13. If he did switch parties, then one would have to wonder how far to the left he would go to (1) win the Democratic nomination for reelection as NJ governor, and (2) win the Democratic nomination for president in 2016. If he didn’t switch parties before winning reelection next year, then question 1 is changed to how far to the left he would shift as the Republican nominee to maintain a winning coalition of Republicans and independents without coming off as a political opportunist in the midst of a party switch. In any case, I think he might face a tougher challenge for the Democratic nomination than the Republican nomination for NJ governor next year; even with the Obama-Springsteen-Christie lovefest we just saw and some leftward movement next year, I doubt any Republican could successfully challenge him for the nomination, whereas NJ Democrats may prefer someone more solidly on their side, especially if Corey Booker runs, than automatically anoint him their nominee.

    But assuming he wins reelection, whether as a Republican or Democrat, and assuming his second term is generally successful, I do think he would be an attractive candidate for the Democratic nomination, but only if (1) Democrats accept that oft-named possibilities Andrew Cuomo and Martin O’Malley are as overrated as I believe them to be, (2) no other viable candidate emerges, (3) Obama has a disastrous second term such that Democrats face strong headwinds like the GOP did in 2008 and feels a need to go centrist. It’s impossible to know what will happen, but I think all three of these conditions are likely. If he were the Democratic nominee yet hadn’t moved too far to the left, I do think he would be very difficult to beat. I realize that many of us are fairly frustrated with Christie these days, but still, if the Democrats were to keep the WH in 2016, wouldn’t you want it to be Christie?

    Comment by chad — November 8, 2012 @ 11:54 am - November 8, 2012

  14. Martin O’Malley isn’t an over-rated political hack. He’s the best governor Virginia ever had.

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 12:06 pm - November 8, 2012

  15. One of the underlying currents I’ve observed among Democrats is the gradual recognition for some fiscal sanity. During the Clinton administration and since, Democrats have been quite proud of their supposed economic record of fiscal responsibility. The fear of a recovery under a Romney administration was something some Democrats were afraid of, as it weakens their link between party politics and economics; for years, the GOP was seen as the party of fiscal responsibility and economic growth but that has largely changed due to our own inept communication, economic cycles vs. election cycles, lack of understanding re. executive and legislative roles in economic policy and to whom we do or should grant responsibility, and other reasons. We cannot rely on that basic perception any longer. Thus, I believe Christie would be very appealing to the Democratic Party as it removes an effective Republican from our ranks, isolates and underlines our reputation as a recalcitrant, inflexible, doctrinaire, small-tent party of theocrats and plutocrats, and gives them a proven fiscal leader to cement a reputation they wish were warranted.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 12:11 pm - November 8, 2012

  16. Yes, [Gov Christie] shouldn’t have been so effusive in his praises for Obama, but I have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt; I believe he *didn’t* have any other agenda, and was simply interested in getting help for New Jerseyians.

    I agree with this. But it points up a fatal flaw for a man who would be a national leader that isn’t so apparent for a state leader. That flaw lies in Christie’s effusiveness. He plainly was running on emotion, and he let that emotion cloud his judgment.

    If Christie really thought Obama was helping, then yes, he owed Obama his hand and his thanks. Effusiveness? Not so much.

    We can’t afford a President who becomes easily so emotional that his judgment is impaired. Crises won’t admit that with the nation’s welfare, even its survival, at stake.

    Eric Hines

    Comment by E Hines — November 8, 2012 @ 12:16 pm - November 8, 2012

  17. This is especially funny because any moron should be able to see how these statements could be of huge help to Christie with moderates, independents, and Democrats during a 2016 general election, and here you are ruling him out in the primaries.

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 9:19 am – November 8, 2012

    Sorry. “Moderates, independents, and Democrats” will be screaming that he wants to ban Big Bird, put women in binders, and eliminate birth control, just like they did this year.

    Or, even better, they’ll be lying their ass off about the Republican candidate’s supposed tax fraud and crony capitalism while merrily supporting and endorsing for election proven tax frauds and crony capitalists.

    No one here seriously believes that you are mentally capable of doing anything other than worshiping Obama as the Messiah. You are a blind cultist who has been brainwashed since birth by your liberal parents to believe that government is the source of all good, that everything in the private sector is evil, and that complete and total slavery to the Barack Obama Party is the pathway to everlasting happiness.

    You proved in this election that you will demonize, smear, attack, and lie about any candidate, under any circumstances, that the Republican Party puts up. Therefore, your whining about Chris Christie is nothing more than demonstrating what a malicious little hypocrite you are.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 12:22 pm - November 8, 2012

  18. I’d like to add that everyone deserves a learning curve, even Christie. State politics are different than national politics and we are judging a state politician as a national figure. Does he regret having assisted in giving wavering Democrats an excuse to vote for Obama? That’s the better question. I thought Obama’s obvious need for a media event with a highly regarded Republican was a sign of weakness, but I’m not a wavering Democrat.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 12:28 pm - November 8, 2012

  19. From short discussions with liberals on election night, they get the message of personal freedom and fiscal responsibility. They know about the unions and the pension issues. They will agree almost everything but in the end, they just CAN’T vote for a Republican, despite how uncomfortable they are with the far left.

    Comment by Chris H — November 8, 2012 @ 10:58 am – November 8, 2012

    No, Chris, they don’t get it.

    They’re a bunch of halfwits who vote binders, Big Bird, and birth control while our deficit and our economy careen crazily out of control.

    And you need to be blunt with them. Say straight out, “Oh; so you’d rather have in office someone who was demanding that your taxes were raised while they were cheating on their own instead of a white person, a male, or someone who made a dumb comment about abortion and rape.”

    Call them on this. They’re liars. They don’t care about fiscal sanity or personal responsibility; they care about binders, birth control, and Big Bird, and that’s what they’re electing people on.

    Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan made the mistake of treating the left like adults. They are not. They are idiots who vote based on skin color and free phones.

    This is how the game has to be played. If you vote Obama, you support hiking taxes on working people so you can hand out free phones and hundreds of thousands of dollars to drunks and adult babies.

    Hammer them with this. They are in denial. They are liars who are desperately trying any stupid rationalization possible to cover up the fact that they are looters, moochers, and takers.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 12:31 pm - November 8, 2012

  20. (OT) Recently heard in the media: Rush Limbaugh stated this morning that if immigration were about jobs, Democrats would be on our Southern border building a wall. Also heard: Hurricane Sandy killed 105 (the most recent tally I found) and did over $50 billion in damage with 900K in power outages. Chris Matthews re. Sandy, election night: “I’m so glad we had that storm last week.”

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 12:41 pm - November 8, 2012

  21. Martin O’Malley is NOT the governor of my state. He’s in Maryland, or the “People’s Republic of Maryland” as we affectionately call our northern neighbor.

    Comment by JohnAGJ — November 8, 2012 @ 12:54 pm - November 8, 2012

  22. I agree with this. But it points up a fatal flaw for a man who would be a national leader that isn’t so apparent for a state leader. That flaw lies in Christie’s effusiveness. He plainly was running on emotion, and he let that emotion cloud his judgment.

    If Christie really thought Obama was helping, then yes, he owed Obama his hand and his thanks. Effusiveness? Not so much.

    We can’t afford a President who becomes easily so emotional that his judgment is impaired. Crises won’t admit that with the nation’s welfare, even its survival, at stake.

    Eric Hines

    That doesn’t make any sense. Christie has spent days touring his state, surveying unprecedented damage to communities and businesses and meeting people that have lost everything and have nowhere to go. And you’re complaining about somebody easily feeling emotional in this situation? And you’re willing to conclude that his judgment is impaired solely because he commended Obama? By all accounts, Christie is handling the recovery very capably, so you have no basis to condemn his judgment in terms of real-world, practical decisions that he’s making.

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 12:58 pm - November 8, 2012

  23. Sorry. “Moderates, independents, and Democrats” will be screaming that he wants to ban Big Bird, put women in binders, and eliminate birth control, just like they did this year.

    Or, even better, they’ll be lying their ass off about the Republican candidate’s supposed tax fraud and crony capitalism while merrily supporting and endorsing for election proven tax frauds and crony capitalists.

    No one here seriously believes that you are mentally capable of doing anything other than worshiping Obama as the Messiah. You are a blind cultist who has been brainwashed since birth by your liberal parents to believe that government is the source of all good, that everything in the private sector is evil, and that complete and total slavery to the Barack Obama Party is the pathway to everlasting happiness.

    You proved in this election that you will demonize, smear, attack, and lie about any candidate, under any circumstances, that the Republican Party puts up. Therefore, your whining about Chris Christie is nothing more than demonstrating what a malicious little hypocrite you are.

    Granted, I would never vote for Chris Christie. But I’m hardly representative of every moderate, independent, and Democratic voter. I think he displayed bravery and honesty in praising Obama, knowing (or even more appealingly, not at all caring) that his party would be upset about it. Not to mention that he’s doing a pretty good job dealing with the storm. Again, I’m not likely to vote for the guy, but I gladly admit that I have a better impression of the guy than I had before. That’s likely to be true for many other moderates, independents, and Democrats who would consider voting for a Republican.

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 1:05 pm - November 8, 2012

  24. Martin O’Malley isn’t an over-rated political hack. He’s the best governor Virginia ever had.

    At first I was going to correct you, and then I realized exactly what you meant. :) Yeah, MD’s loss is VA’s gain. But sadly it seems that not enough conservatives have migrated across the Potomac to turn VA red again.

    Comment by chad — November 8, 2012 @ 1:13 pm - November 8, 2012

  25. With 650-thousand-plus NJ homes and businesses STILL without electricity 10-days after The Storm I think that Gov. Christie’s response to GOP talking-heads criticizing his lack-of spurning Pres. Obama would be, ” …I got people without homes or heat. If you not helping, shut the F*uck Up!

    And as a NJ-resident, to those Christie critics here;
    What have YOU done to help?

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — November 8, 2012 @ 1:15 pm - November 8, 2012

  26. Here in suburban Seattle last year, we had a blizzard during which my neighborhood was without power for 2.5 weeks to the day. The temperature outside was ~25F. Inside, the temperature was ~45F. Sorry if my tears aren’t melting your snow.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 1:23 pm - November 8, 2012

  27. What have YOU done to help?

    The Mormons — whom Ted B despised with the white hot passion of a thousand suns — are doing a better job at relief than Christie/Big Guv.

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 1:26 pm - November 8, 2012

  28. Granted, I would never vote for Chris Christie.

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 1:05 pm – November 8, 2012

    And yet you’re here telling us how we should behave in regard to him.

    Even though you’re making it clear that, no matter how repulsive your candidate is, no matter if they’re a proven tax cheat or crony capitalist who deliberately manipulated a deal to ensure that donors profited and taxpayers got the bill, you will never vote for Chris Christie. Ever.

    This is the answer to your question, Chris H. When you deal with these so-called rational liberals, ask them under what circumstances they would condemn their own candidate and vote for the Republican.

    The answer is, and will always be, never. Just like Levi. There is nothing, repeat NOTHING, that will change these peoples’ minds. They don’t care about what their party does; all they know is Obama uber alles.

    This is why I am hammering lower-case mike. Every single one of the reasons that he gives for opposing Republicans he supports when Obama and the Obama Party do it. He is not opposing Republicans out of rationality and logic; he is opposing them out of bigotry, hate, and spite.

    This is a realization that conservatives have to make. Obama, Harry Reid, and the rest of the Obama Party lied about Romney’s and Ryan’s taxes, lied about Romney’s and Ryan’s businesses, lied about Romney’s and Ryan’s record, lied that Romney and Ryan were both murderers, lied that Romney and Ryan wanted to put people in death camps — all while they were endorsing and pushing proven tax cheats like Claire McCaskill and Sherrod Brown, proven welfare frauds like Charles Rangel, and proven crony capitalist situations like Solyndra, proven criminals like Jon Corzine, and even more.

    And these so-called “rational liberals” insisted that Romney was not fit to govern based on these lies while overwhelmingly electing Obama Party members who did exactly what they were accusing Romney of doing.

    Is this rational behavior? Look at Levi. Levi has stated that he will NEVER vote for Chris Christie no matter how awful of a candidate the Obama Party puts up. Levi always votes Obama, always does what Obama says, and always endorses and supports Obama Party members, even if they are proven tax cheats and welfare frauds.

    This is NOT rational. This cannot be dealt with by logic. These people are immune and impervious to facts, reason, and intelligence; the only thing they respond to is bigotry, hate, and violence, as stoked by their Obama Party owners and Obama Party masters.

    Why are you bothering to even try to chase these people? They are unintelligent bigots. They cannot think. They are looters, liars, takers, thieves, and moochers who have no standards, no morality, and no values other than their own selfish bigotry and hatred of Republicans.

    It is not going to stop until you fight back. Levi and his fellow pigs do not respect morality, values, or decency. The only thing they respect, as we see from the examples provided us by the Muslims, is punching back twice as hard.

    And interestingly enough, once you punch back twice as hard and make it clear to them that it won’t be tolerated, they start whimpering and groveling and making excuses to leave you alone. Just like how the so-called “war on women” haters like Levi insist that honor killings by Hamas and their allies in the Muslim Brotherhood deserve Federal funding in the name of “diversity”.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 2:15 pm - November 8, 2012

  29. The Mormons — whom Ted B despised with the white hot passion of a thousand suns — are doing a better job at relief than Christie/Big Guv.

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 1:26 pm – November 8, 2012

    Well done, V the K.

    Ted B is still sitting out on the corner sucking his thumb and waiting for his fellow gay-sex liberals to whom he kowtows to show up with help.

    Isn’t that interesting? Despite how much bigots like Ted B and his fellow Obama-lites demonize the Mormons and evangelicals, these are the people who are actually putting their money where their mouth is when it comes to “love my neighbor”.

    While his fellow “Love, not H8″ losers can’t be bothered to put down their cocktails.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 8, 2012 @ 2:18 pm - November 8, 2012

  30. State politics are different than national politics and we are judging a state politician as a national figure.

    I would agree, and add that in retrospect, Romney/GOP had bigger problems than Christie giving too much juice to Obama and Springsteen in the last week. Christie is not why Romney lost.

    He plainly was running on emotion, and he let that emotion cloud his judgment.

    Agree again. (It’s not excluded by the other stuff I’m agreeing with here.)

    No, Chris, they don’t get it. They’re a bunch of halfwits who vote binders, Big Bird, and birth control while our deficit and our economy careen crazily out of control.

    And again! :-)

    Call them on this. They’re liars.

    The problem is appropriateness of time, place, etc. As Aristotle said, “Anybody can become angry – that is easy, but to be angry with the right person and to the right degree and at the right time and for the right purpose, and in the right way – that is not within everybody’s power and is not easy.”

    I JUST had a water cooler chat with a co-worker who agrees with me about the financial dangers we face, and is sympathetic (though not committed) to a libertarian / small government view… and voted Obama. He was cringing about his own vote. I fed him a few new thoughts, gently. Calling him a liar would not have helped; even though it would have been likely true to some extent (i.e. likely that his confusion stems from his believing, and wanting to keep believing, certain lies).

    GP on the other hand, is a great time and place…

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 8, 2012 @ 2:42 pm - November 8, 2012

  31. Noble Effort, NDT, but alas futile.

    Obama – L. Ron Hubbard.
    Democrat Progressive Socialism – Scientology
    Keynesian Economic Theory – Dianetics
    Levi – John Travolta.

    Comment by V the K — November 8, 2012 @ 2:55 pm - November 8, 2012

  32. I love the name, “Scientology”. It’s so cheesy, it makes me chuckle.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 8, 2012 @ 2:58 pm - November 8, 2012

  33. And as a NJ-resident, to those Christie critics here; What have YOU done to help?

    My charity work is, of necessity, anonymous. Your question isn’t invalid, but it is pointless wrt me, as there is no way I can answer it.

    Eric Hines

    Comment by E Hines — November 8, 2012 @ 3:25 pm - November 8, 2012

  34. I think we need to stop shooting Christie. If voters chose Obama because Christie gushed they deserve the president they voted for (although I don’t particularly want him either, but really if what makes you choose Obama is this, then the better option maybe was that voter staying home).

    I would hate to see the GOP run Christie out of the party. Christie IMO wasn’t ever presidential candidate material. He is too passionate and puts his foot in his mouth too often to succeed in a primary much less in a general where the media is going to attack him from all sides.

    Christie does make for a good GOP governor-especially on dealing with a fiscal cliff at the state level. I also think he makes a good spokesperson because he isn’t afraid to take a few hits to tell people the truth not necessarily tickle their ears with niceties.

    One of my favorite young GOP governors is Jindal. I think the media might eat him alive, but he fields media idiocy pretty well.

    I also really like Mia Love but think she needs to season a bit more before she is ready for the the big offices.

    Comment by Just Me — November 8, 2012 @ 3:33 pm - November 8, 2012

  35. Here in suburban Seattle last year, we had a blizzard during which my neighborhood was without power for 2.5 weeks to the day. The temperature outside was ~25F. Inside, the temperature was ~45F. Sorry if my tears aren’t melting your snow.

    At least you had an inside. Sandy made lots of people homeless.

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 3:34 pm - November 8, 2012

  36. At least you had an inside. Sandy made lots of people homeless.

    True and I didn’t mean to come across as uncaring at all nor appealing for sympathy, but no one helped us out except those our taxes and utility bills pay to restore the power we pay for nor did we ask what others were doing for us.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 3:47 pm - November 8, 2012

  37. “…nor did we ask what others were doing for us.”

    Actually, that’s not quite true. We did call several times to ask what was being done and if our power would ever be restored. By the end, those weren’t the exact words we were using.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 3:49 pm - November 8, 2012

  38. Yeah I wasn’t trying to be a dick. Just pointing out the different circumstances. I mean 2.5 weeks is a crazy amount of time to be without power.

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 4:00 pm - November 8, 2012

  39. Yeah I wasn’t trying to be a dick.

    Yeah you don’t have to.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 8, 2012 @ 4:04 pm - November 8, 2012

  40. Yeah I wasn’t trying to be a dick.

    S’OK. I happen to like it when guys are dicks and asses. We were the very last to get our power back on because we’re a small neighborhood in a semi-rural area (houses on large acreage in the suburbs). The large areas with higher concentrations of customers always get served first so that the utility can brag how quickly they’re addressing the problem.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 4:07 pm - November 8, 2012

  41. Ignatius back when we lived in NC and Fran hit we were without power for about a week (we lived fairly far inland, but Fran was nasty and was still a Cat 1 when it got to our area). After 3 days they power company restored power all the way up to our neighbor’s house.

    Then a few years later Floyd came on the heels of Dennis. We didn’t have power for 5 days that time, but by day 2 every single neighborhood around our building had lights. Our apartment building was like an island of darkness in the midst of light. The kids kind of had a good time-we spent a lot of time at our neighbors (they had a camp stove) and our kids sort of viewed it as a 5 day long indoor camp out. I was frustrated though and have to say I am thankful NC wasn’t cold following the hurricanes.

    I learned with those 2 storms that it just takes time, and your placement in the power grid has a lot to do with how soon your power comes back on. BTW we learned while living in VA that being very close to the hospital is a good thing when it comes to getting power restored.

    Comment by Just Me — November 8, 2012 @ 5:05 pm - November 8, 2012

  42. #34 Just Me. I also think Senator Marco Rubio or Gov Susana Martinez would be good on the Republican ticket. Along with Gov Jindall, they are all minorities and Catholics which might appeal to both the Catholic vote and the Hispanic vote. Gov Martinez might also appeal to women, although not those women only interested in free birth control and abortion.

    Comment by NOT a liberal Mom — November 8, 2012 @ 5:34 pm - November 8, 2012

  43. I would probably vote for him.

    But hes for common sense gun laws, not tough on illegal immigrants, and an environmentalist. So it would be awesome if he could make it through the primary.

    It would show the GOP is on its way!

    Comment by mike — November 8, 2012 @ 6:45 pm - November 8, 2012

  44. Just Me, yes, like living near fire or police stations. The downside is the sirens, though. We’ve had other storms where our power has been off for days but never this bad and the weather made it that much more severe. That was a terrible couple of weeks.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 8, 2012 @ 6:50 pm - November 8, 2012

  45. There is no one that lies with such passion as the governor of Maryland, O’Malley. I think he will be a force for the democrats. He drips the stuff that Obama has perfected.

    Comment by John Kinstle — November 8, 2012 @ 11:56 pm - November 8, 2012

  46. I would probably vote for him.

    Comment by mike — November 8, 2012 @ 6:45 pm – November 8, 2012

    Yup, that’s what you said about Romney four years ago.

    And then you suddenly decided he was a murderer, a vulture capitalist, a tax cheat, and a rape supporter when he challenged your Obama.

    No one seriously believes you would ever vote for or support a Republican, mike. You’ve already made it clear that you will vote for the Obama Party no matter how miserable of a failure it is.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 9, 2012 @ 3:02 am - November 9, 2012

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