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  1. Actually, I’m noticing quite the opposite. New businesses are popping up in buildings that have been vacant in my neighborhood. And old businesses are getting torn down to put up more buildings.

    Comment by Vince Smetana — November 13, 2012 @ 12:30 pm - November 13, 2012

  2. I’ve seen new buildings going up, but also see new retail space sitting empty. Melrose is not as bad as it was six months ago, but I’m actually seeing more vacant space now on Santa Monica Boulevard than I did a few months back.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — November 13, 2012 @ 12:34 pm - November 13, 2012

  3. Revenue means taxes…

    Revenue means taxes from economic growth.

    …and certainly those who have been blessed the most…

    “You didn’t build that” — you were ‘blessed’ by some supernatural, metaphysical lottery.

    …who have disproportionately extracted…

    The economy is a zero-sum game and those who extract disproportionately (notice the environomentalist’s word ‘extract’, as if economic activity is akin to mining land that belongs to all of us) must be made to pay.

    …by whatever skill…

    Yeah, whatever skill — as if hard work had nothing to do with it.

    …more and more from the national wealth…

    Again, the zero-sum argument implying a man’s paycheck belonged to all of us prior to his withdrawal from the Bank of National Wealth.

    …they’re going to have to share more of that…

    This, to imply not taking by force of law but ‘sharing’ with the rest of us. Taxes are ‘sharing.’

    …And everyone is going to have to realize that building roads is important…the space program is an indicator of the world leader – all that takes money.

    Straw men, all. If California’s government were concerned about roads, etc. rather than paying out state pensions at their very highest level in order to secure re-election or any number of political/economic schemes, it wouldn’t stand at nearly $400 billion in debt. You can’t blame the GOP for this one, folks. Democrats have controlled this state for decades and now enjoy a supermajority in the Assembly. Even if you were to elect a governor who isn’t a SCOAMF, he’d be powerless.

    Comment by Ignatius — November 13, 2012 @ 12:38 pm - November 13, 2012

  4. They didn’t access the wealth, they created it, generally through their hard work and ingenuity.

    Generally, it was created through the hard work of thousands or millions of others whom they employed. The founders and CEOs of Hewlitt-Packard didn’t build the printers or computers. The founders of Google didn’t do the bulk of the work to create what Google is today. Those who had the ideas and got the ball rolling deserve a big payday for those efforts, but to ignore that without the work of thousands or millions of others those big ideas never would have gone anywhere is putting the cart before the horse. Labor is what creates wealth, and as previously noted, no one ever became a billionaire through his own labor alone.

    Comment by JennOfArk — November 13, 2012 @ 1:13 pm - November 13, 2012

  5. Funny how the Democrats love millionaire actors, love millionaire athletes, love millionaire trust fund kids, love millionaire bond traders … but absolutely despise people who get rich as the result of creating jobs for others.

    Comment by V the K — November 13, 2012 @ 1:28 pm - November 13, 2012

  6. “Labor is what creates wealth, and as previously noted, no one ever became a billionaire through his own labor alone.”

    Your display of leftist indoctrination is impressive, in a sickening sort of way.

    “Labor is what creates wealth…” Incorrect, or at least insufficient. As the famous example goes, polishing a turd surely involves labor, yet produces no value.

    “…no one ever became a billionaire through his own labor alone.” And your point is…? Yes, we know, all those roads and bridges…which everyone has access to. Therefore, everyone is rich, and we don’t have to worry. What? Everyone ISN’T rich? How can that be?

    Could it be possible that there’s something you’re missing in your simplistic, one-dimensional “argument”?

    Comment by alanstorm — November 13, 2012 @ 1:35 pm - November 13, 2012

  7. The founders and CEOs of Hewlitt-Packard didn’t build the printers or computers. The founders of Google didn’t do the bulk of the work to create what Google is today. Those who had the ideas and got the ball rolling deserve a big payday for those efforts, but to ignore that without the work of thousands or millions of others those big ideas never would have gone anywhere is putting the cart before the horse. Labor is what creates wealth, and as previously noted, no one ever became a billionaire through his own labor alone.

    Comment by JennOfArk — November 13, 2012 @ 1:13 pm – November 13, 2012

    Which is hilarious, because JennofArk’s entire argument is that those of us who labor should pay more in taxes so that she and her fellow Obama voters don’t have to work, go to school, become educated, or put in actual hours; they get paid regardless.

    Isn’t that entertaining? The people who came up with the brilliant ideas that created HP and Google don’t deserve to profit, but the people like JennofArk who drink themselves into a stupor and sit around in diapers all day do.

    This again shows how the malevolent welfare sluts like JennofArk work. They scream and scream and scream that those who actually create wealth don’t deserve it, and that the people who do are the ones who create nothing. The reason why is simple: they don’t like the fact that work is valued more than laziness and that competence more so than competence, and their solution is to demand that government punish and redistribute from those who work and are competent to those who don’t.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 13, 2012 @ 1:42 pm - November 13, 2012

  8. But, California is still the trend setter.

    It is very clear that the current trend is to envy others who have more than you, to envy others who plan ahead, to hate others who through their own hard work are successful while you sit on your ass and get nothing but free Obamastuff.

    That’s a big part of how Obama got elected – that evil horsey-set rich white dude who kills cancer-patients cannot be in the white house . . . he’ll put you all in chains!

    I recently read a couple of reports that Goldman Sachs in lower Manhattan prepared for hurricane sandy by sandbagging their HQ and by having generators installed several years ago.

    After Sandy hit and flooded (and blacked out) lower Manhattan, Goldman Sachs was still well lit-up and not flooded. While nearby hospitals went dark and were flooded.

    It really is too easy a guess to say who many are blaming for this “inequity” of well-being after the storm – yep, Goldman is being blamed for being greedy. “How dare they have power while the rest of us, especially, the hospitals, suffer.”

    So, yea, California is still the trend setter – I just hope this trend fades real fast – like spit on a hot griddle fast.

    Comment by Charles — November 13, 2012 @ 1:44 pm - November 13, 2012

  9. It’s nice to see Jenn back to demonstrate her ignorance.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 13, 2012 @ 1:48 pm - November 13, 2012

  10. When you flood your state (or country) with uneducated, unskilled, unassimilated third-worlders and give them unlimited access to welfare and public services that come at the expense of people they are taught to resent and despise…. what other expectation can one have when one gives them a voting majority?

    Comment by V the K — November 13, 2012 @ 1:49 pm - November 13, 2012

  11. The funny part of watching the malevolent welfare slut JennofArk pontificate is that she demonstrates the way in which the Obama Party that owns her and does her thinking for her manipulates people.

    One can boil JennofArk’s ranting down to two points:

    1. Labor is what creates wealth

    2. People like her and her fellow Obama voters should get wealth without laboring

    That pretty much is everything that she says. The rest is just elaborate rationalization and obfuscation for those two basic points: she and her fellow Obama welfare sluts want everyone else to labor for their benefit.

    That is really all Obama’s campaign was about. Barack Obama promised his welfare sluts like JennofArk that he would punish those people and force them to labor so that JennofArk could have free Obamaphones, birth control, and Big Bird.

    As Levi has already stated, liberal women are mentally incapable and cannot resist emotional manipulation by men. Thus, it was easy for Obama to ‘seduce” a welfare slut like JennofArk by promising her free birth control, a free Obamaphone, and vengeance against those mean people at work who made her show up on time and sober.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 13, 2012 @ 1:54 pm - November 13, 2012

  12. It is very clear that the current trend is to envy others who have more than you, to envy others who plan ahead, to hate others who through their own hard work are successful while you sit on your ass and get nothing but free Obamastuff.

    Comment by Charles — November 13, 2012 @ 1:44 pm – November 13, 2012

    Charles, you couldn’t have phrased it better.

    Hewlett and Packard were engineering geniuses who developed methods and machinery that transformed an entire industry and launched on several levels the behemoth that Silicon Valley has become.

    Brin and Page revolutionized Internet search and have, quite simply, made information accessible on a massive and world-changing scale to billions of people.

    And here we have this little welfare slut whose primary claim to fame is inventing perjoratives and epithets claiming that these people don’t deserve their wealth and that she should have it instead.

    That’s what Barack Obama and the Obama Party are all about — pandering to welfare sluts like JennofArk and whipping up their envy.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 13, 2012 @ 2:19 pm - November 13, 2012

  13. I have to take exception to your statement of “California was once a trend-setting state.” California is still trend setting with taxes, spending, and the global warming hoax. We are now in the new normal of higher taxes and spending. We are spending our way to prosperity.

    Comment by anon322531 — November 13, 2012 @ 2:20 pm - November 13, 2012

  14. Aw crap. This means more of y’all moving here to Texas. You know we have fire arms, coyotes, snakes and huge spiders. Lots of gun owning fruitcakes. How about moving to Nevada instead?

    Comment by Kevin — November 13, 2012 @ 2:22 pm - November 13, 2012

  15. Why doesn’t Jerry Brown just turn California completely communist? The rationalization is there for it; “those who have been blessed the most, who have disproportionately extracted, by whatever skill, more and more from the national wealth” implies that there is a finite amount of wealth. And he clearly has a problem with people who use their skills to “disproportionately extract” it, which implies that everyone, regardless of skill, deserves an equal share of it.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 13, 2012 @ 2:23 pm - November 13, 2012

  16. jerry brown and the rest of the left don’t believe you have a right to the fruits of your labor. they believe if you work it is much “fairer ‘if the fruits of your labor belong to the politicans. hence from now on forward if you work you will be a slave of the people that are suppose to be your servant. thats liberation!

    Comment by tommy651 — November 13, 2012 @ 2:34 pm - November 13, 2012

  17. And he clearly has a problem with people who use their skills to “disproportionately extract” it, which implies that everyone, regardless of skill, deserves an equal share of it.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 13, 2012 @ 2:23 pm – November 13, 2012

    Bingo!

    Republicans and conservatives need to message that far and wide: Jerry Brown and the Obama Party believe that, no matter how hard you work, no matter how well you perform, or how educated and intelligent you are, you deserve to be paid the same as everyone else.

    Or more precisely: Jerry Brown and the Obama Party believe that those who do no work, who finish no education, and who perform poorly should be paid identically to those who work, finish their education, and perform well.

    This is what the Obama Party is all about. The Obama Party is the party of people who want to be paid for no work or lousy work. The Obama Party is the party of the uneducated who want to be paid as much as the educated.

    Thus, my answer is that the Republicans should immediately put up a bill eliminating all state subsidy for higher education. When asked why, they should state that education creates class differences and that Jerry Brown has stated that it’s unfair for those who are more educated to be paid more than those who do not.

    The Republicans should also then put up a law stating that discrimination in pay based on individual performance is henceforth illegal and that all people performing a job, regardless of performance, should be paid identically in every respect — stating that Jerry Brown says that pay should be shared equally among all employees regardless of contribution.

    Turn this back on the welfare sluts. Force the Obama Party and their children to choke on their own communism.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 13, 2012 @ 2:46 pm - November 13, 2012

  18. Misters Brin, Page, Zuckerberg etc are directly responsible for tens of thousands of jobs for people who in turn pay millions upon millions in taxes.

    Their services are also entirely voluntary so they have not extracted anything from the national wealth. Rather, they have *added* 250+ billion to the national wealth.

    I, and probably their thousands of progressive employees, are perfectly happy with them keeping a few percent.

    Comment by BigJ — November 13, 2012 @ 2:49 pm - November 13, 2012

  19. ND30 > I imagine you think welfare sluts don’t use condoms. Do they breed more sluts, get abortions, or go for what’s behind door #3?

    Comment by Vince Smetana — November 13, 2012 @ 3:13 pm - November 13, 2012

  20. In the thirty plus years I’ve been running a business I have never seen the business climate so bleek. Yes, under threat of the democrat mob being turned on us we must agree to having our hard earned wealth stolen by the likes of criminals like Gerry Brown without question. Never mind how they may waste what we strive to accumulate for the growth of our business and the welfare of our families. Never mind the corruption and the ever richer political ruling class, we must just shut up and do as we are told.

    Comment by Richard Bell — November 13, 2012 @ 3:30 pm - November 13, 2012

  21. “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration. (Hillary Clinton)

    Comment by Richard Bell — November 13, 2012 @ 3:34 pm - November 13, 2012

  22. ND30 > I imagine you think welfare sluts don’t use condoms. Do they breed more sluts, get abortions, or go for what’s behind door #3?

    Comment by Vince Smetana — November 13, 2012 @ 3:13 pm – November 13, 2012

    Um, Cinesnatch, we know they don’t use condoms.

    Women, specifically teenage girls, get a lot of pressure from their boyfriends to have sex without condoms. And while it would be great to hope that these girls should be strong and resolute and could always explain to their guys why it’s important to be responsible and careful, that’s an unrealistic expectation and you know it. Men have a tendency to not plan ahead and be indulgent and can be very good at manipulating the emotions of the women they’re trying to sleep with…..

    The pill is almost 100% effective and requires absolutely no effort or compromise on the part of the man, whereas condoms are less effective for about a half dozen reasons, including user error and the aforementioned reluctance of many men to use them at all.

    Comment by Levi — November 11, 2012 @ 12:55 pm – November 11, 2012

    We also know that liberals and the Obama Party don’t think that failure to use condoms is a problem.

    Getting too drunk or forgetting your condoms or allowing yourself to be pressured into it by your horny boyfriend or the kind of everyday, run-of-the-mill bad decisions we all make, like spending 6 dollars on coffee or watching Jersey Shore.

    Comment by Levi — September 24, 2012 @ 1:57 pm – September 24, 2012

    And there we see the mentality among the welfare sluts and the Barack Obama Party. There’s no need to use condoms; you can just have the government take care of you.

    It really explains a lot about the gay and lesbian community. Indeed, I’m surprised you, with your obvious aversion to work, haven’t taken advantage of the ability to bug-chase yourself right onto the welfare rolls and get disability, free health care, handicapped parking permits, and all the other benefits with which you will be rewarded by the state and Federal government.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 13, 2012 @ 3:36 pm - November 13, 2012

  23. Speaking of six dollar coffee you never did get back to me, nd30. Don’t you wanna know what’s behind door #3?

    Comment by Vince Smetana — November 13, 2012 @ 4:29 pm - November 13, 2012

  24. JoA: You wouldn’t know what creates wealth if it hit you over the head with a 2×4.

    VS: You’ve demonstrated more than enough ill-will toward NDT personally that he ought not ever to accept your offer. Which means you’re engaged in your usual empty posturing.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 13, 2012 @ 5:34 pm - November 13, 2012

  25. those who have been blessed the most, who have disproportionately extracted, by whatever skill, more and more from the national wealth, they’re going to have to share more

    As others have pointed out, it is the 6-year old child’s view of wealth creation. It fits a broader phenomenon: Democrats treat voters like children, and want to create a nation of dependent children. Not to mention the Marxism.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 13, 2012 @ 5:38 pm - November 13, 2012

  26. And it gets better.

    Financial disclosure forms released Thursday show Gov. Jerry Brown and his wife, former Gap Inc. executive Anne Gust Brown, have real estate and stock holdings potentially worth millions of dollars.

    The Browns’ investments include stock in Gap, Jack in the Box, and the medical office software business Health Fusion Inc., according to a statement of economic interest filed with the state Fair Political Practices Commission. Gust Brown is listed as a former board member of Jack in the Box.

    They hold investments in at least two real estate businesses. Gust Brown is listed as a member of 4395 Piedmont, and the governor is a member of Madison Park Holdings Inc. Both investments are valued between $100,000 and $1 million.

    The Browns also collect interest income between $10,001 and $100,000 from Round Two Investment Partners in Beverly Hills. California’s first family also owns a home in the Oakland Hills. They currently live in Sacramento during the week and rent a midtown loft.

    So Jerry, from whom did you and your wife “disproportionately extract” your wealth, hm?

    I think we know part of the answer.

    She returned to her home state for a University of Michigan law degree but joined San Francisco-based Gap in 1991, where she oversaw everything from the company’s legal department to the practices of overseas suppliers.

    Throughout her time at the Gap, Gust ran head-on into the biggest controversy surrounding the company its use of cheap, foreign labor. In fact, the Gap became a poster child for U.S. companies accused of exploiting sweatshop workers.

    What a surprise. JennofArk shrieks and screams about “exploiting the workers” when she and her fellow Obama supporters are doing exactly that.

    If JennofArk were a normal and sane human being who lived by her own principles, she would demand that Jerry Brown resign and his wife be sent to prison. But she’s not; instead, she’s just a welfare slut who repeats whatever her Obama Party masters like Jerry Brown tell her to repeat.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 13, 2012 @ 5:49 pm - November 13, 2012

  27. The pill is almost 100% effective and requires absolutely no effort or compromise on the part of the man

    The above is indeed a damning utterance: Levi cares about the man having to endure “absolutely no effort or compromise” as he looks to gratify his sexual urges with the teenage girl.

    But back to Brown’s comments: if he thinks that taxing rich people more should be a trend, he should ask France how that’s working out.

    Rich people flee France in respond to tax increases (as well they ought to):
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9404209/Frances-proposed-tax-hikes-spark-exodus-of-wealthy.html
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214595/More-400-1million-euro-homes-Paris-market-millionaires-flee-Hollandes-socialist-tax-hikes.html

    In a development that leftists/media are reluctant to identify as related (but that is at least partly related), France is sliding back into recession:
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/49756772
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-09/french-recession-looms-as-industrial-production-slumps.html

    Oh well, Brown and Obama always wanted the U.S. to be more like Europe!

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 13, 2012 @ 6:02 pm - November 13, 2012

  28. It sticks out that Vince and Jenny are completely ignoring this part of the post.

    The issue is not the absence of revenue, but the excess of bureaucracy and the superabundance of benefits for government employees.

    Perhaps they think we need even more overcompensated state bureaucrats.

    Comment by V the K — November 13, 2012 @ 6:02 pm - November 13, 2012

  29. From the Bloomberg link:

    Hollande’s deficit-reduction plan relies too much on tax increases, which hurt economic growth more than spending reductions, Bank of France Governor Christian Noyer said in an interview with Le Progres newspaper published today.

    “I would prefer more savings from spending [cuts] and less emphasis on [tax] revenue,” Noyer said. “… the focus should be on spending.”

    They buried it near the end.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 13, 2012 @ 6:06 pm - November 13, 2012

  30. Aw crap. This means more of y’all moving here to Texas. You know we have fire arms, coyotes, snakes and huge spiders. Lots of gun owning fruitcakes. How about moving to Nevada instead?

    Don’t fret Kevin, they will move to Texas, wonder what’s wrong with y’all, and go to work turning the whole state into California (except for the weather). We have coastal people in Kansas who start sentences with “Well in California/Oregon/Washington we do X this way…”.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — November 13, 2012 @ 8:33 pm - November 13, 2012

  31. Somalia has no government. According to the extremely sophisticated conservative argument “We Built That!”, Somalia should therefore be a hotbed of innovation and a world leader in economic growth. But for some reason, that isn’t the case.

    Most people in Somalia don’t have cars. Well then, shouldn’t this be a tremendous business opportunity? If all anyone needs to make it in this world is a willingness to work and absolutely no support from anyone ever, then some enterprising individual ought to be able to move to Somalia and build an automobile industry. Same thing with mobile phones. And luxury yachts. If conservatives can walk around in this country, with its burdensome regulations and taxes, believing that they built all of their wealth all on their own, then shouldn’t Somalia, where no one will ever bother you about wages or health insurance or 40 hour work weeks, appear as a glimmering beacon on the horizon? So why aren’t you guys packing your bags?

    As much as conservatives love to complain about how shitty this country is, with all of its moochers and its takers and its regulators and its hippies, they will never put their money with their mouth is and go built their free market utopia in Somalia. Oh my god, I mean where would you start? Probably with the violence and piracy I guess. Treating the many diseases afflicting the population would also be an important first step, but you’ll just be throwing good money after bad if you don’t get them set up with clean water and sewage systems. Of course you’ll need some skilled labor to build those things, so you’d have to set up some kind of education system early on. Electricity would help with all of this, so you’d probably want to get to providing all of Somalia with electricity as quickly as you could. And before you can start making the cars, you’re going to need the roads. So that will require some serious planning, and you’ll have to find geologists and ecologists and engineers to do impact studies to make sure you’re not wasting your cash by poisoning the water you’re supplying or by building your road on a fault line.

    Now that should only take four or five decades and a few trillion dollars to get set up, but then you can start selling cars like gangbusters safe in the knowledge that you built it all by yourself.

    Comment by Levi — November 14, 2012 @ 1:18 am - November 14, 2012

  32. Straw man alert!

    Somalia has no government

    I’ve said over and over and over that government has 3 legitimate – and necessary – functions: police, courts and military for the impartial protection of individual rights to life, liberty and property.

    Levi doesn’t care. He’d rather respond to what he wishes libertarian-conservatives say, rather than to what they do say. Hence, Levi’s typically irrelevant, mendacious and stupid rant above.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 14, 2012 @ 1:40 am - November 14, 2012

  33. Somalia has no government. According to the extremely sophisticated conservative argument “We Built That!”, Somalia should therefore be a hotbed of innovation and a world leader in economic growth. But for some reason, that isn’t the case.

    And in Cuba present and the former Soviet Union, the government owns and controls everything.

    Therefore, using Levi’s own argument, that proves that liberalism destroys economic growth and leads to repression and destruction.

    Looks like the whining little Levi brat was humiliated again. But that’s typical; the whining brat doesn’t have any intelligent argument. He’s just a pathetic whore, a desperate little coward who is trying to rationalize why people who actually work and create value should be compelled to contribute to lazy moochers and looters like himself who won’t work and want government to finance their rape habit.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2012 @ 1:42 am - November 14, 2012

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  35. In 1950, Detroit was the richest city in America by per capita income.

    Since 1970, the city has been run exclusively by progressive Democrats who followed Levi’s policy prescriptions to the letter: raising taxes to spend on education and all those other wonderful social programs Levi thinks are so critical to economic success.

    How is Detroit Fairing after forty years of enlightened progressive rule?

    Comment by V the K — November 14, 2012 @ 6:04 am - November 14, 2012

  36. I’ve said over and over and over that government has 3 legitimate – and necessary – functions: police, courts and military for the impartial protection of individual rights to life, liberty and property.

    Levi doesn’t care. He’d rather respond to what he wishes libertarian-conservatives say, rather than to what they do say. Hence, Levi’s typically irrelevant, mendacious and stupid rant above.

    I just have a hard time envisioning the model that you’re describing. It seems to me that police, courts, and the military would be hugely expensive and inefficient if we didn’t maintain some form of public education or social safety net. The best things you can to protect life, liberty, and freedom is guarantee a baseline of economic stability, and I’m not sure how your exclusive police state is supposed to do that. If people don’t have food, they commit crimes. If people don’t have an education, they get taken advantage of by swindlers. I can’t even imagine what the healthcare and financial industries would look like in this set up.

    What about the FDA? Presumably, there could be some punitive and financial punishments in your system for a peanut butter manufacturer that was responsible for a salmonella outbreak, but it would be completely reactive in nature if you didn’t have anyone inspecting food or compiling public health statistics. You could have 1,000 dead people before anyone even notices there’s a problem. How are you supposed to privatize a function like that? According to you, the only thing the government should ever do is punish people for harming others, but what about preventing harm from happening in the first place? The only thing you can offer in your set-up is the fear of punishment, is that not right? You assume too much if you think that fear of punishment will motivate people to do the right thing every time, there are undoubtedly a good number who will only be motivated by fear of punishment to not get caught.

    And since you’re so keen on pretending that the government can only impede markets and growth, I don’t suppose you’ll want to maintain the internet, highway system, public transportation, GPS, weather service, the FCC, or any of these other strangling barriers that weren’t worth the cost and never benefited the private sector at all. What do they have to do with protecting life, liberty, and property?

    Comment by Levi — November 14, 2012 @ 10:20 am - November 14, 2012

  37. I just have a hard time envisioning the model that you’re describing.

    Wow, apparently Levi can tell the truth once in a while.

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  39. The reason you have a problem is simple, Levi; you aren’t a decent or industrious person, so you don’t understand either.

    For example:

    If people don’t have food, they commit crimes.

    Nope. Normal people get jobs and work so they can purchase food, or they go out and grow it themselves.

    But you don’t want to do either. Instead you want to steal from someone else. You have no desire to work or grow your own food; you want it delivered to you.

    Hence your addiction to government. You see it as a methodology for you to steal without being punished. You and your fellow Obama supporters kick and scream and cry that government should take from those who work and give it to those like yourself who refuse to work or contribute to society. Indeed, you and your Barack Obama have abolished any requirement that welfare recipients even TRY to work, and instead demand that welfare recipients stay on welfare for their entire life if they want.

    And then this:

    If people don’t have an education, they get taken advantage of by swindlers.

    Yes. As we see from Jon Corzine, who Obama and “progressives” endorse and support, swindling is normal behavior for the Obama base.

    Which is also why “progressives” oppose any type of educational system that actually produces results. “Progressives” like Levi and his fellow Obama supporters demand that children be trapped in failing schools with drunk teachers because they know that stupid people are easier to manipulate and swindle with Obamaphones.

    Half of Detroit’s population is functionally illiterate. This is because of the school system that Levi endorses, that Levi supports, and that Levi insists needs no change whatsoever. Levi refuses to educate minorities and the poor for the same reason that Levi’s ancestors fought the education of slaves; it is all about control.

    And again, it all ties back to what Levi wants. Levi wants slaves, aka the Obama Party base, who can be easily purchased with food stamps and Obamaphones and will thus vote him and his Obama into power. Once in power, Levi and his fellow Obama supporters pass laws to force people to give them all their money or be thrown in jail, even as they allow people like Corzine to swindle, cronies like Solyndra to cash fat government checks, and supporters like Rangel, McCaskill, Kerry, Sherrod Brown, and Warren Buffett to defraud the welfare system and dodge taxes.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2012 @ 12:25 pm - November 14, 2012

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  41. The best things you can to protect life, liberty, and freedom is guarantee a baseline of economic stability

    Which is exactly what left-wing policies *don’t* do, as Obama gives us daily proof.

    If people don’t have food, they commit crimes.

    That’s typically vile, deceptive left-wing thinking. In reality, *criminals* commit crimes… not “people”. Real people scramble to get jobs when they are hungry; if they are prevented from doing so, it’s GOVERNMENT (policies which prevent a free labor market, block economic growth, etc.) which prevent them from doing so. And finally, if they really can’t work, then they get help from family, charity and church – all of which Levi despises and so chooses to ignore.

    If people don’t have an education, they get taken advantage of by swindlers.

    Or, if people DO have an education, they get taken advantage of by swindlers. Right now, I am personally helping a highly educated man whose education did nothing to protect him against a swindle – and may well have hurt his ability to discern it.

    There is no reason to think that education has anything to do with people avoiding swindles; again, as Obama gives daily proof. His entire economic policy is a giant swindle that hurts, among others, the very people who vote for it.

    And once more, you overlook the fact that just become something is good, doesn’t mean it should be provided by government. Which brings us to your next sentence:

    I can’t even imagine what the healthcare and financial industries would look like in this set up.

    No surprise there. To you, the government is all. If the government had a monopoly on shoe production, you would be out here saying “I can’t even imagine what the shoe industry would look like in this setup.” That a free market could produce good outcomes, escapes you. Again, no surprise.

    What about the FDA?

    Google “Underwriters Laboratories” sometime. There is no reason why industry standards/quality agencies must be government agencies. None at all.

    Presumably, there could be some punitive and financial punishments in your system for a peanut butter manufacturer that was responsible for a salmonella outbreak

    They would have their reputation destroyed in the market, as their first and foremost punishment. AND they would be open to civil torts. And, depending on the details, perhaps criminal charges for fraud.

    In other words: They wouldn’t be around, because they wouldn’t last for ten minutes. Free markets mean that the producer and consumer must deal with each other voluntarily, to the profit (the benefit) of both. While regulated ‘markets’ mean that the government regulator is king over both, to the detriment of both, because now the producer focuses on dealing with (and hopefully ‘capturing’) the government regulator INSTEAD OF serving the consumer. Regulated ‘markets’ are WORSE for the consumer.

    I’ve explained all this before. I know that not a word is going to sink in. But maybe another reader will benefit. But that’s all the time I have. Don’t assume I lack answers for anything else you’ve written; I haven’t read it because I must stop here, there is simply not enough time or interest in correcting your errors endlessly.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 14, 2012 @ 1:55 pm - November 14, 2012

  42. No surprise there. To you, the government is all. If the government had a monopoly on shoe production, you would be out here saying “I can’t even imagine what the shoe industry would look like in this setup.” That a free market could produce good outcomes, escapes you. Again, no surprise.

    Nailed it, ILC.

    Again, Levi’s fixation with government is simply as a means to an end. Government is the only thing that can fulfill Levi’s dream of forcing other people to pay his bills and fix his problems without his having to raise a finger, so he exhorts government as the be-all and end-all and demonizes private industry as awful and evil.

    Why? Again, because government rewards based on how you vote, not on how you work. Obama’s cronies, as we saw with Solyndra, can run a business into the ground and get fat bonuses for doing so, with all loss shoveled off onto the taxpayers.

    Levi’s incompetence, malevolence, bigotry, and general ignorance make it unlikely that he can ever be hired for more than menial jobs; there are simply too many other qualified, intelligent, and tolerant people who can do things better. The only thing that Levi has to offer that is in any way “equal” is a vote, so he simply votes for the party and candidate who promises to revenge him against those qualified, intelligent, and tolerant people who got the job he didn’t and are making far more than he does.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2012 @ 2:04 pm - November 14, 2012

  43. If people don’t have an education, they get taken advantage of by swindlers.

    Isn’t that the very model of every cell phone service store in the country?

    Do I recall that Levi is a paid swindler in the cell phone service racket?

    Or has he switched to pay-day lending, check cashing, rent to own appliances and furniture or investment advice?

    If I learn that Levi is busting his hump at Chick-fil-a or holding the flashlight for a certified plumber, I will back off a bit. But, somehow, I believe that the little fascist puke is drawn to swindlers and predators. Maybe he is a runner for Corzine or a community organizer for scamming the welfare system. Maybe he is a distributor for Obamaphones. Maybe he is a paid protester. Maybe he just schleps schlock to the rubes. Whatever he does, it must complement his non-existent critical thinking powers.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 14, 2012 @ 2:12 pm - November 14, 2012

  44. Government is the only thing that can fulfill Levi’s dream of forcing other people to pay his bills and fix his problems

    The average left-winger has that exact dream: the dream of *compelling* others to respect him, recognize him, deal with him, and finance him. Like a kid with unresolved narcissistic anger at his parents, who wishes he could compel them.

    He dislikes situations where people deal with each other voluntarily; that is, where he might be held to some external standard, because people have the option of rejecting him. Conversely, the left-winger loves situations where there are no standards, where he can feel ‘unconditionally accepted’ – like an OWS protest, a sex orgy, or a pot-smoking circle.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 14, 2012 @ 2:34 pm - November 14, 2012

  45. Or a welfare line, a “consciousness raising” meeting, etc. – You get the picture.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 14, 2012 @ 2:40 pm - November 14, 2012

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    Cobra Commander replies, “What? Forget it, this is California remember?”

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