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  1. Well, duh, somebody has to pay for my free stuff, and it sure won’t be me.

    Comment by Average Democrat Voter — November 17, 2012 @ 12:57 am - November 17, 2012

  2. And the Republicans should cave and let them have it (but set the bar higher… maybe $400K). Because after the tax increase, the Democrats got nothing! And the deficit isn’t near fixed.

    A crash is coming and a big one. Republicans have to make sure the Obamacrats own it.

    Comment by V the K — November 17, 2012 @ 1:00 am - November 17, 2012

  3. Repubs are screwed either way. If they cave (e.g. the let it burn philosophy) the dems will say they own it too. If they resist, they’re “obstructive” and probably racist.

    You cannot escape the slimy bending over backwards these creatures are capable of.

    Comment by perturbed — November 17, 2012 @ 5:35 am - November 17, 2012

  4. The Democrat takeaway from this election is that they can get away with any level of corruption and malfeasance as long as they can turn out low-information voters by demonizing Republicans.

    This does not bode well for our country.

    Comment by V the K — November 17, 2012 @ 8:42 am - November 17, 2012

  5. The Obamacaracrats have no inkling that Obamacare will be paid almost entirely by the middle class.

    Prices of everything will rise to pay the costs of Obamacare. The “poor” will pay the higher prices along with the middle class and the nasty, rotten, stinkin’, greedy rich.

    Cost of living adjustments in welfare payments, higher rent, higher food prices, higher energy costs, etc. will be adjusted for the entitlement crowd.

    Cost of living adjustments for the nasty, rotten, stinkin’, greedy rich will simply mean they cut back a little on spending or they work out more income.

    Coast of living adjustments for the middle class means they suck it up or strike and demand higher pay or if they are government employees they get the COLA and it is spread out on the middle class that actually earns a living.

    There had better be free condoms in Obamacare, because the middle class is in for a continuous, hard bore screwing.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 17, 2012 @ 10:10 am - November 17, 2012

  6. It’s an interesting, though tragic paradox, that the more “Unity” is forced on the people by the Government, the more divided we become as a country. We are actually much more unified when Government isn’t trying to force one set of values and one set of solutions on the nation as a whole.

    Comment by V the K — November 17, 2012 @ 10:12 am - November 17, 2012

  7. That’s all Obama knows how to say.. Hell he has no plans to fix the economy, all we get from the guy is more smoke and mirrors… Hell, the dude hasn’t passed a budget in over 3 years.

    Comment by Spartann — November 17, 2012 @ 10:39 am - November 17, 2012

  8. Don’t worry about the rich. The truly wealthy will be fine no matter what. They have the means to avoid punitive taxation – even if it means moving to a friendlier jurisdiction happy to have them.

    The so-so rich can simply retire – why bother if you spend most of your time working for uncle sucker?

    The idiots will see declining living standards and be happy about if because the gubmint is screwing the rich. At least that’s what they’ll tell themselves.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — November 17, 2012 @ 10:50 am - November 17, 2012

  9. Obama: Looter.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 17, 2012 @ 11:00 am - November 17, 2012

  10. Raising taxes on the “rich” will not solve our country’s fiscal problems. Nor will it matter much to the ignorant, low-information, “Romney wants to outlaw tampon” voters that swung the election.

    That said, the Republicans have nothing to gain by fighting this battle. They simply lack the means to teach a majority of the American people practical economics.

    Comment by V the K — November 17, 2012 @ 11:16 am - November 17, 2012

  11. Thank goodnees my boyfirend and I cannot get married. Our combined income would make us “wealthy.”

    Comment by PatrickP — November 17, 2012 @ 12:13 pm - November 17, 2012

  12. *boyfriend

    Comment by PatrickP — November 17, 2012 @ 12:13 pm - November 17, 2012

  13. For years I was on the board of a local hospital, but it was taken over by a chain and things changed drastically. I don’t have the inside story on much any more, but I was disgusted to learn about a little trick they introduced. The emergency room will provide a blanket for a person who is feeling a chill. It shows up on the bill as a $50 service charge.

    This service has been made a price point and I am certain that there is voluminous accounting documentation showing the “cost” of sterilizing the blanket and keeping it sterile in storage and recording its use and keeping track of what the patient’s status was vis a vis infection and so on so forth. All this, of course, is to keep John Edwards at arm’s length so the hospital doesn’t get its arm torn off with the ligaments left dangling.

    On the other hand, hospitals have long taken this cost into consideration in a general operating surcharge.

    But when a non-profit hospital goes looking for ways to bill by itemized cost, the whole bill goes up, not down.

    As the Obamacare panels start up their regulation machine for cutting and justifying costs, the hospitals and accounting geniuses will load the bill up with every possible feather and bauble so that the consequent cut does not actually get at the meat or bone.

    It is a well established and understood game that is played when Uncle Sugar is involved. $600 hammers and the like. Uncle Sugar says it is greedy profit taking. The service provider more accurately says it is the cost of doing business with Uncle Sugar and his imbecilic regulators.

    Any small business man works (or pays someone else) a whale of a lot of hours dealing strictly with government taxation, record keeping and regulation. He, in effect, donates his time gratis to do the work the government requires. Thus, your physician has a staff of clerks who take care of all the filing of forms and keeping track of billing and hounding the the insurance provider and answering the government. That is why an aspirin costs $50.

    Obamacare is going to be a Titantic headache corrupting our economy. It is an iceberg with 9/10ths of its bulk hidden from view.

    And everybody is going to attempt to pass it on to some other payer. That is why GM became a retirement plan with an automobile plant attached to it.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 17, 2012 @ 12:59 pm - November 17, 2012

  14. Twinkies Shrugged a couple days ago, and now Denny’s: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233221/Dennys-charge-5-Obamacare-surcharge-cut-employee-hours-deal-cost-legislation.html

    Thanks, Dear Leader! Your glorious, noble leadership takes us into a wonderful future of ever-increasing (un(der))employment!

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 17, 2012 @ 1:03 pm - November 17, 2012

  15. Wonder Bread used to be known as “The Eight Hour Loaf.” Turns out that also describes the average shift of a unionized worker.

    Among other things, Hostess’s union contracts (I hear) required bread and snacks to be delivered on separate trucks. Great way to create two union jobs for every one you actually need; terrible way to compete against non-union companies.

    Comment by V the K — November 17, 2012 @ 1:16 pm - November 17, 2012

  16. Of course, given that this is Obama, the message may stay the same, but you can expect the definition of “the wealthy” to keep changing!

    Comment by Kurt — November 17, 2012 @ 2:20 pm - November 17, 2012

  17. Clarification on the Denny’s thing: it concerns a regional franchisee who owns some 40+ restaurants, not the entire franchise.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 17, 2012 @ 2:28 pm - November 17, 2012

  18. ‘Tax the rich’ is cover for ‘crushing the bourgeoisie’. That has been their goal from the get-go.

    Comment by Annie — November 17, 2012 @ 3:28 pm - November 17, 2012

  19. Barry begins push for nationalizing 401ks & IRAs.

    http://tinyurl.com/atnmm8r

    Comment by Annie — November 17, 2012 @ 3:32 pm - November 17, 2012

  20. So fewer hours and fewer employees means fewer tax dollars being collected. BRILLIANT!

    Comment by AZ Mo in NYC — November 17, 2012 @ 3:34 pm - November 17, 2012

  21. I’m counting the hours until the White House releases it plans for a “Twinkie Bail-out” of this vital American industry…

    And hundreds will protest outside the Abbey in WeHo when they realized it’s not about them.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — November 17, 2012 @ 4:22 pm - November 17, 2012

  22. The problem with taxing the rich is that if you don’t also cut spending, there aren’t enough rich people to tax to pay for it all.

    I am not even all that opposed to raising taxes but the spending like there is never a bill due is the problem not revenue and unless this government figures out that they can’t continue to spend like this it isn’t going to matter how much they raise taxes-the deficits and debt will continue to grow.

    Comment by Just Me — November 17, 2012 @ 4:33 pm - November 17, 2012

  23. The democrat plan is coming together perfectly while the republicans in warshinton watch in silent amazement.

    Comment by Richard Bell — November 17, 2012 @ 8:18 pm - November 17, 2012

  24. He’s a professional rabble rouser and theif. All he knows how to do is incite hatred towards the rich, the white folks…whatever group there is and steal their resources. Of course this is his plan.

    Comment by AZ Mo in NYC — November 18, 2012 @ 6:47 am - November 18, 2012

  25. The problem with taxing the rich is that if you don’t also cut spending, there aren’t enough rich people to tax to pay for it all.

    Comment by Just Me — November 17, 2012 @ 4:33 pm – November 17, 2012

    Exactly. As I often post:

    The total of the Obama deficits for the past three years, even with a generous adjustment, is $3.43 trillion dollars.

    As Mary Katherine Ham so helpfully calculated, the grand total of wealth of every single one of the US’s billionaires is $1.3 trillion — or, put differently, a mere 38% of the total generously-adjusted Obama deficit, or barely more than one year of Obama’s deficit spending.

    So let’s go even deeper than that. Let’s tax everyone who makes over $200k at 100% of their income.

    That would raise <a href="http://taxfoundation.org:81/blog/warren-buffetts-proposed-tax-hikes-would-provide-insignificant-revenuea grand total of $2.4 trillion — or 71% of the total generously-adjusted Obama budget, or just over two years of Obama’s deficit spending.

    Thus the point: if you confiscated the total income of every single taxpayer making over $200k annually in the United States, you couldn’t even pay the entire generously-adjusted deficit that the “progressive” Obama Party and Barack Obama have run up just in their three years in office. We’re not even talking about the $16 trillion in accrued debt; we’re just talking about the annual deficit that Obama incurs.

    And that doesn’t even get into the economic effect of confiscating every single dollar that anyone making over $200k has.

    The problem that we’re dealing with is that Obama’s supporters simply do not understand (or choose not to understand) the magnitude of these numbers. Case in point: the Obama brownshirt Levi’s response to his Obama’s pissing away money on cronies:

    Because a half billion dollar loan to Solyndra got wasted? That sucks, but that amount of money is a pittance in the grand scheme

    Comment by Levi — November 8, 2012 @ 3:10 pm – November 8, 2012

    And to quote my response:

    What. The. F’ing. Hell.

    You think a half BILLION dollars is a “pittance”?

    If you make the US median income of $50k annually, that represents TEN THOUSAND YEARS worth of labor.

    If you presume that those people making $50k are paying 20% of their income in taxes, you burned up the total taxes paid of FIFTY THOUSAND TAXPAYERS.

    And for what?

    An empty factory with singing showers and paid-off Obama donors, with executives who made donations to Obama and then received bonuses as the firm slid into taxpayer-funded bankruptcy.

    That, I think, is what we’re fighting against the most. Obama voters really have no concept whatsoever of the actual value of money. They don’t know what things actually cost, or how much work it takes to earn things. Since they don’t work and have never had to work, they don’t respect it — and since they get something for nothing, they assume that “the rich” are doing the same.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 18, 2012 @ 1:12 pm - November 18, 2012

  26. Obama voters really have no concept whatsoever of the actual value of money.

    I think this is true. The government tosses billions around like they are pennies, when those billions come out of the pockets of taxpayers who work hard for those dollars.

    The government has to figure out how to stop spending money. The rich are their current scapegoats, but even the rich don’t have enough money to pay for all the stuff people want the government to give them.

    Comment by Just Me — November 18, 2012 @ 6:56 pm - November 18, 2012

  27. So, If Obama gets to raise taxes on the rich, those above $200K
    or $250K.
    And he raises taxes on the regular people too, like liquor and tobacco and energy taxes.
    After all that, what is left for him to do the last 44 months of his last term?
    I see lots of golfin going on. With Michelle and the girls doing lots of shopping and traveling.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 18, 2012 @ 8:04 pm - November 18, 2012

  28. The headlines in California after the election were “Democrats gain super majority, can raise taxes without Republican interference.” which implies that raising taxes is the sole objective of the Democratic Party.

    We need to work on our messaging a bit. Ever had a Red State vs. Blue State argument with someone on the left and they point their finger at places like Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana and Arkansas in derision? Do you then inform them that Democrats ruled those states for centuries and that Republicans have only had a hold on state government in many of them for less than 4 years and some only since this year?

    Louisiana is a good example. In 2008 the people there elected a Republican House of Representatives for the first time since the 1880′s along with a Republican Governor. The change has been dramatic. In what used to be a state ruled by corruption, nepotism, bribery, and kick-backs so blatant that it was designated as one of the worst states to do business, it has now become one of the best in the region. State government is being purged of positions that had been filled with kin of influential politicians. The educational system is making a major turnaround with elementary school scores climbing and high school drop out rates in decline.

    We need to point this out to people instead of remaining silent. Sure, those states might have voted for Republican Presidential candidates and be marked “red” but their internal state governments were ruled by Democrats for over 100 years until only very recently.

    Arkansas has its first Republican legislature since the end of Reconstruction after the 2012 election. Louisiana only now since this election both houses of their legislature controlled by Republicans, also since the end of Reconstruction.

    Facts, people, facts!

    Comment by crosspatch — November 18, 2012 @ 8:27 pm - November 18, 2012

  29. Crosspatch I grew up in Kentucky and while the democrats weren’t quite a intrenched as in other states Democrats pretty much were king up until the 1990′s.

    My dad who was more republican than democrat in voting patterns was a registered democrat because many of the elections were actually competitive in the primary because if the GOP had a candidate on the ticket they were usually slated to lose anyway.

    Comment by Just Me — November 18, 2012 @ 9:35 pm - November 18, 2012

  30. Not just raising taxes (which the Republicans need to give in on, in exchange for cutting spending), also providing tax-funded contraception to people (most of whom pay taxes), and providing healthcare to all Americans by forcing all Americans to purchase healthcare.

    Comment by Mitch — November 19, 2012 @ 12:02 am - November 19, 2012

  31. I’m all for spending cuts as long as they don’t affect me personally. Also, I want free health care, free contraception, more money for education, more money for PBS and… while you’re at it, get me one of them high-speed rails everybody’s talking about.

    Comment by Average Democrat Voter — November 19, 2012 @ 12:37 am - November 19, 2012

  32. I’m with ADV @ #31. If Warren Buffet’s stash were transferred to promoting the general welfare, every victim of Sandy in New Jersey and New York could be given a Chevy Volt and a load of solar panels.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 19, 2012 @ 8:36 am - November 19, 2012

  33. Obama’s a 1 trick jackass. I am not wishing harm, or more misfortune, on our already tattered nation and economy. With that said, I cannot WAIT for liberals to start whining about being a lot poorer, once 2013 rolls around, than they are now. And once this “president” is done destroying the producers (aka evil rich people), then what? Then who will the left have to blame? If they own mirrors, they should start the search there.

    Comment by LesbianNeoCon — November 20, 2012 @ 7:14 am - November 20, 2012

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