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  1. the ONLY way to get any leftiod to consider stopping Voter Fraud would be for solid proof it helps republicans somewhere. Now we see the goal of Soros’ funded assaults on taking the Sec o State of as many states with the “correct” candidates as possible.

    Comment by JP — November 19, 2012 @ 12:32 pm - November 19, 2012

  2. I do not know the date of this hearing, but it appears to have taken place on November 7, 2012 if I am hearing Maxine Waters correctly at around the 9:50 mark. Listen at 10:45 for something really incredible.

    The Democrats have been chipping away at voting security for many years. Same day registration, voting absentee in New York and in person in Florida, loading the rolls with Mickey Mouse and Adolf Hitler, recounting and recounting until Al Franken gets elected by 312 votes 238 days after the election and after the Minnesota Supreme Court shut down further recounts and so forth.

    In 1960, the Mayor Daley, Sr. of Chicago held back the Cook Country vote returns until it was known how many were needed for John F. Kennedy to carry Illinois and become President. In 2000, Gore imported Mayor Daley, Jr. to manage the recount of votes in Florida counties where slight changes could decide the Florida electoral college vote and the election for Gore. The scrutiny over hanging chads, etc. prevented successful fraud for turning the election.

    Other curious elections include Christine Gregoire pulling from behind and defeating Dino Rossi for Washington state governor by 133 votes on the third recount. Lyndon Johnson by 87 votes over Coke Stevenson by finding 200 mysterious votes in Jim Wells County precinct #13 in Texas in the 1948 runoff.

    Many election have been razor thin and will be in the future. Hugh Hewitt wrote about close elections in his book: If It’s Not Close, They Can’t Cheat: Crushing the Democrats in Every Election and Why Your Life Depends on It.

    We are letting a lot of time slip by in challenging what took place on election day.

    You might also be interested in the George Soros effort to control the position of Secretary of State in various swing states. The Secretary of State (remember Katherine Harris in Florida in 2000?) has huge hand in certifying election results and making executive rulings before the courts become involved.

    This Allen West situation is just the tip of the iceberg when looking for crooked voting procedures.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 19, 2012 @ 2:54 pm - November 19, 2012

  3. I’d like to think that Repubs are above such monkey shines. But I don’t.

    Comment by Niall — November 19, 2012 @ 3:11 pm - November 19, 2012

  4. We have a corrupt secretary of state in connecticut too. Caught the mayor of Bridgeport telling Chris Murphy he “guarantees he’ll get the vote” – great, kinda like they created an artificial ballot shortage in ’10 and then found bags of votes that somehow mysteriously put Malloy over the top to defeat Foley in the governor’s election – and then the SOB malloy went and retroactively raised taxes!!!

    IRAQ HAS MORE SECURE VOTING THAN WE DO FOR CHRISSAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Dan — November 19, 2012 @ 4:04 pm - November 19, 2012

  5. Niall, I agree that the Repubs aren’t necessarily above reproach, but I sure don’t remember reading any instances where close races with funky circumstances were won by the GOP candidate. Sure, Bush v. Gore was one, but in the end Bush did have the vote.

    Comment by Hunter — November 19, 2012 @ 4:12 pm - November 19, 2012

  6. Bruce,

    Have you had a chance to review the links I provided @ #2 above? (The Hugh Hewitt and the book title links are duplicated.)

    I am very, very curious about hearing video and I would not be surprised to see it disappear.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 19, 2012 @ 4:20 pm - November 19, 2012

  7. I have seen precincts with few or no voters before. In the Wisconsin recalls there were precincts in Milwaukee with zero voters. Many of these are precincts that have seen residential property converted to commercial and nobody lives there permanently. I believe in the case of the Florida precinct it is in a neighborhood of mostly non-citizens from Guatemala.

    Comment by crosspatch — November 19, 2012 @ 4:25 pm - November 19, 2012

  8. Anecdotally it’s reported that 10% of the voting precincts in Philadelphia Pa. turned in NO VOTES for Romney-Ryan. And that 20% of the voting precincts in Chicago Ill. (Cook County) turned in 99% pluralities for Obama-Biden.
    How is that even statistically-possible??

    … And a side note; Nate Silver plays on our team, YAY!!

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — November 19, 2012 @ 4:26 pm - November 19, 2012

  9. heliotrope,

    Sorry to burst the conspiracy bubble. . .but I am sure Corsi will have more fodder soon

    Here is a link from a site, Nov 5.

    The hearing was back from the 2000 elections

    http://www.seminolechronicle.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/12/16/41c2fdb042ea1

    Comment by rusty — November 19, 2012 @ 4:44 pm - November 19, 2012

  10. Oops.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b7_1352145474&comments=1

    Here you go heliotrope

    Comment by rusty — November 19, 2012 @ 4:45 pm - November 19, 2012

  11. Thanks, Rusty. I did not see how it could have happened this past week, but the Waters comment threw me off.

    Nonetheless, I am very annoyed that computerized voting is so fragile. It is not high tech to vote and it is not high tech to count votes. You can drop a stone in a jar and then count the stones.

    If people vote early or absentee, they should have to mark a ballot and the ballot should be provisional until it is cleared to be counted after the election. Every voter should be identified by Social Security number and thumbprint. It would be easy to tie the Social Security number into the IRS mandatory insurance Obamacre system the IRS is setting up to tax Obamacare cheats and the TSA/Homeland security system that tracks the movement of citizens. We could easily have face recognition systems at the polls as well.

    I may not actually support all of this, but my car records my driving habits and my exact location is always known through GPS as well as through my phone and computer and a couple of my cameras. So, why not use the technology to make sure the people voting are just voting once?

    Comment by heliotrope — November 19, 2012 @ 5:49 pm - November 19, 2012

  12. The West/Murphy saga has indeed been dominating the news here since election night. Maybe it was my being in Martin County that made me believe this race would not even be close, since signs and bumper stickers were like 4 or 5 to 1 for West.

    At any rate, the local media have taken the “Oh, this is so tedious!” approach, making the “story” how West just won’t shut up and go away, conveniently sweeping under the rug the very “irregularities” in St. Lucie county that have been his assertions from the beginning. The elections board kept agreeing to “parts” of the votes being recounted, when anybody who really cared about the integrity of their work would be willing to do the whole thing. Moreover, Murphy tried to shut the whole thing down when that box of uncounted ballots was found (reportedly) in a high school gym. I can’t imagine West OR Murphy would want to have that cloud of uncertainty (illegitimacy?) following them around. Dems will call West names regardless, but I can’t imagine the district would unite behind Murphy, with no political background or reputation in this area, if it looks like another Al Franken situation.

    I understand it would be expensive and a bit of a PITA, but I wish the Sec O State would just ask for a district-wide recount. Martin Co. was solidly in the West camp, and recounting our votes might find “misplaced” West votes, as well. The percentage is not THAT far off from a mandatory recount, anyway.

    Comment by jimmy — November 19, 2012 @ 6:10 pm - November 19, 2012

  13. Democrats always find a way to find the votes they need for victory.

    I think another example of the finding the right number of votes would be Al Franken’s victory.

    The GOP never wins in these elections because the democrats somehow manage to find that missing box of ballots.

    Comment by Just Me — November 19, 2012 @ 6:38 pm - November 19, 2012

  14. Great info and comments all. If you want to get really sick and pissed off then read this article. It is a little long, but it takes DNC voter fraud to a new level. Citations and court proceedings are listed. It opened my eyes:

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/

    Some months ago Dan asked our opinions about the election. My biggest fear then was that the democrats would steal it, and we would not be able to recover after four more years. My greatest fear is now a reality.

    Comment by mixitup — November 19, 2012 @ 6:50 pm - November 19, 2012

  15. the ONLY way to get any leftiod to consider stopping Voter Fraud would be for solid proof it helps republicans somewhere.

    Maybe Republicans should try to commit voter fraud, and then maybe they would pay attention. I realize this is immoral, but what is even more immoral is allowing so many people to be disenfranchised through the voter fraud that is already occurring.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — November 19, 2012 @ 7:47 pm - November 19, 2012

  16. its Funny.
    Dems Still claim the 2004 election was stolen because of the Diebold machines in Ohio.

    It seems both sides always claim voter fraud when either side loses. Neither wants to admit that they just lost.

    The fact is these election supervisors are often good citizens who are just trying their best. Most of the time they are folks who aren’t the most sophisticated group (often retired) and they have problems, lose votes, press wrong buttons or just make mistakes. I would bet 1 thousand doghairs that 99.9% of these are honest mistakes that get compounded when they are interwoven into the conspiracies of the tinfoil hat wearing crowds of the losing side.

    Comment by mike — November 19, 2012 @ 9:27 pm - November 19, 2012

  17. It’s beyond maddening how the left and the media have driven this narrative. We had on video people explaining how they can look up when a voter has not voted in a few elections and how easy it is to print a fake utility bill and go vote for them. Here in Montana you could photoshop someone’s electric bill or garbage bill so easily and go vote for them. I was surprised I was getting notices in my mail from special interest groups who could actually see which elections I had and had not voted in as public record. Sickening…

    Comment by Tim in MT — November 19, 2012 @ 9:46 pm - November 19, 2012

  18. It’s interesting you also mention Philadelphia and Cleveland. I’ve seen scattered reports about turnout in the 90 percentage points and zero votes for Romney. I also saw many reports of people who couldn’t even speak English being taken to the polls in vans. I can only imagine the goodies they were given…

    Comment by Tim in MT — November 19, 2012 @ 9:54 pm - November 19, 2012

  19. Funny how the GOP establishment are incurious and silent. Zilch. Zero. Nada.

    Comment by Annie — November 19, 2012 @ 10:28 pm - November 19, 2012

  20. Mike, so you’re telling us that the military voting being down 73% in Ohio alone is due to senile citizens making honest mistakes? That 100% of 100 precincts in OH going for Obama isn’t noteworthy? That a district in Florida with only 7 registered voters, turns out 900 ballots and we’re supposed to STFU and get over it?
    So if the democrats aren’t squealing like stuck pigs and the media doesn’t report it, then we should accept it didn’t happen?

    Comment by Annie — November 19, 2012 @ 10:39 pm - November 19, 2012

  21. Annie
    I am not saying STFU. I am saying each election the loser claims fraud
    For example:
    http://www.alternet.org/election04/log/
    “Something very strange happened on election night to Deborah Tannenbaum, a Democratic Party official of Volusia County. At 10 p.m., she called the county elections department and found that Al Gore was leading George W. Bush 83,000 votes to 62,000 votes. But when she checked the county’s Web site for an update half an hour later, she found a startling development: Gore’s count had dropped by 16,000 votes, while an obscure Socialist candidate had picked up 10,000 … all because of a single precinct with only 600 voters.”

    Or this:

    “Talk to anyone from a real democracy — from Canada or any European country or India. They are staggered to discover that 80 percent of our touch-screen electronic voting machines have no paper trail and are manufactured by companies owned by Bush Republicans”

    or this:

    “Franklin County’s unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry’s 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct.”

    “Fraud” is the cry of the loser in American politics.

    Comment by mike — November 19, 2012 @ 11:46 pm - November 19, 2012

  22. “Fraud” is the cry of the loser in American politics.

    Then count all the votes and prove it …

    Comment by Adriane — November 20, 2012 @ 3:00 am - November 20, 2012

  23. Looks like Murphy will be my Congressman after all–West has conceded the race. Murphy moved here to compete for the seat, so I don’t have much faith in his knowing what we need on the Treasure Coast or even really caring, since he is now well aware that just short of 50% of his constituency does not want him there. He is a political newcomer, so I envision his becoming a rubber stamp for the Democratic leadership. He expressed few actual political opinions in the campaign and certainly none of the “what I will do”-type speeches a candidate usually makes. He was mostly running as “the person who is running against Allen West,” so now I guess he will disappear into the House and pop back up in two years to ask for re-election.

    Comment by jimmy — November 20, 2012 @ 10:09 am - November 20, 2012

  24. Hilariously, concern-troll mike tries to claim Republicans committed voter fraud even as he screams that claiming fraud makes you a “loser”.

    As always, mike demonstrates that Obama supporters like himself are really just malicious criminals who want to abuse those who follow the law and protect those who don’t in the name of power for the Barack Obama cult. They don’t care about anything other than getting their free sh*t and punishing people they don’t like, and they think that supersedes anything like law.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 20, 2012 @ 10:10 am - November 20, 2012

  25. Well, there just might be a silver lining, yet. There was once a congressman who served one term. And he went on to become one of our greatest Presidents: Abraham Lincoln.

    Hopefully, this is not the last we’ve heard of Col. West.

    Comment by Vicky Hernandez — November 20, 2012 @ 10:59 pm - November 20, 2012

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