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  1. What do you have against Meatless Mondays. The meat and dairy industries are some of the most in bed with government and subsidized in America. They’re just making a suggestion, not a mandate.

    I would think this would be right up a conservative or libertarians alley…

    Comment by Tim in MT — November 21, 2012 @ 2:47 am - November 21, 2012

  2. Tim, I have nothing against an individual choosing not to eat meat on Mondays. What bothers me is when government tries to dictate to individuals how they should run their lives.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — November 21, 2012 @ 2:57 am - November 21, 2012

  3. Tim – there is also the issue of WHY? Why, on earth is the local government “suggesting” this? Why aren’t they busy doing what they were hired to do – run the city!

    As mundane as things such as garbage pick-up, road work, police work, budgets, etc. are. That is what they were hired to do – not to tell people how to live.

    We are adults and can make our own decisions (even if you or others disagree with OUR choices) and should suffer (or enjoy?!) the consequences of those decisions. That is what a true conservative believes.

    So, again, I will ask WHY? Why should they or anyone stick their noses into others people’s business?

    Comment by Charles — November 21, 2012 @ 8:59 am - November 21, 2012

  4. Dan – Government is not “dictating” anything to anybody. They are suggesting it. They are not passing a law against it. They are not passing rules and regulations enforcing it. Some active citizens talk to their duly elected local representatives about something important to them and they decided to take some action that would bring attention to the issue, do some good in many ways from the health of the citizens to the environment etc. You have just as much the ability to do the same if you wish or disagree.
    But instead you decide to hold a “protest” dinner of some sort? What did your protest accomplish? You got to continue to purchase a product subsidized heavily by the government, something you spend the rest of the time decrying? You are protesting a non-event, a suggestion at most! It seems kind of dumb to be “protesting” a mere suggestion of doing something healthful for citizens and the environment, and especially dumb to be doing it by supporting a system which you would otherwise oppose in the form of heavily subsidized government products.

    Charles – So what? The reason WHY is the people that elected them to office asked them to do it. Wouldn’t you want your local officials to listen to your concerns and address them in a way that is still respectful of individual rights and doesn’t use the heavy hand of government to enforce things while taking away liberties?

    You believe they shouldn’t work beyond a small set of issues, but other people disagree. If anything, I would hope that the local officials have the most power to address a wide range of issues important to their constituents, instead of a large, overarching federal government. Why stick their noses in other people’s business? Perhaps because the 10th Amendment of the Constitution relegates matters like these precisely to state and local government. I can see a problem is Obama or Michelle is doing this. But it’s done on a local level, not a federal one.

    Local people have Constitutional power and influence over local elections. The city council is promoting individual and public health without the heavy hand of government or the infringement of individual liberties. They are also promoting free markets by standing on the side of the industry that does NOT rely on heavy government subsidy and corporate handouts. And you are mad?!?!?!?!?

    You should seriously reconsider, IMO.

    Comment by Tim in MT — November 22, 2012 @ 3:40 am - November 22, 2012

  5. If you make a Monday steak dinner a regular event, I would seriously consider flying in for the day.

    Comment by Blair Ivey — November 23, 2012 @ 2:55 am - November 23, 2012

  6. You got to continue to purchase a product subsidized heavily by the government, something you spend the rest of the time decrying?

    Comment by Tim in MT — November 22, 2012 @ 3:40 am – November 22, 2012

    Oh, this ought to be entertaining.

    List the Federal subsidies for beef cattle production, please.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 23, 2012 @ 7:40 pm - November 23, 2012

  7. Well:

    There are subsidies in the for of ranchers being able to use federal lands for less than they would pay normally for private land.
    Aren’t most cows in the US grain fed? Let’s look at the massive subsidies to the corn and agriculture industries that allow things like corn to be purchased at such cheap prices that corn is all they end up being fed? Subsidies aren’t going to grain fed beef, they are going to corn fed beef, which makes up at least 75-80% of the beef in the US. Additionally, 70 percent of grain grown in the US with heavy US subsidy goes to animals, not people. Could you imagine if that actually went somewhere like starving African children or even to Americans? We’d see much lower rates of obesity, world starvation and most definitely greenhouse gas emissions.

    Try to stop being so close-minded.

    Comment by Tim in MT — November 28, 2012 @ 6:45 pm - November 28, 2012

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