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  1. Post makes a good point, that should matter in a same country.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 23, 2012 @ 9:01 pm - November 23, 2012

  2. Remind me again about the plan the Obama Democrats have to address the coming insolvency of this popular entitlement?

    1. Do nothing
    2. Blame Republicans.

    It’s gotten them this far…

    Comment by V the K — November 23, 2012 @ 9:12 pm - November 23, 2012

  3. Prius-driving Democrats don’t stand a chance against me and my Republican gas-guzzling Hummer. I just drive right over and and top of them on the freeway.

    Comment by Alan — November 23, 2012 @ 9:50 pm - November 23, 2012

  4. I keep being reminded of Ed Koch’s remarks after losing an election: The voters have spoken, now they must be punished.

    Well, the voters have spoken – let the punishment begin.

    VtK: you forgot step #3: Repeat.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — November 24, 2012 @ 10:22 am - November 24, 2012

  5. The whole exercise of ramming Obamacare down our throats was “too clever by half.” The venerable Oxford Dictionary rewords “too clever by half” thusly: annoyingly proud of their intelligence or skill, and liable to overreach themselves.

    First of all, Obamacare is the bill that wasn’t there and still isn’t there. After four years of fumbling around in the regulations writing mode, Obamacare is not even yet a blueprint of the infrastructure it promises to build.

    An important history is in order: Jan Schakowsky, the most far-left member of Congress,

    has been a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives since 1999, representing the 9th District of Illinois. The district includes many of Chicago’s northern suburbs, including Evanston, Skokie, Glenview and Rosemont. It also includes a large portion of Chicago’s North Side bordering Lake Michigan.

    In 2004, Schakowsky’s husband, Robert Creamer, was indicted on federal charges of operating three check kiting schemes that defrauded banks of at least $2.3 million while he ran an Illinois public interest group called the Illinois Public Action Fund. Schakowsky herself sat on the Board of Directors of the organization during the time that Creamer committed the fraud.

    Robert Creamer wrote a book while in prison entitled Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win which is a Saul Alinsky based blueprint laying out the following game plan:

    Create a national consensus that health care is a right

    Create a national consensus that the health care system is in crisis

    Convince political leaders that they owe their elections to the groundswell of support for universal health care and face peril if they fail to deliver on health care in 2009

    Need not agree in advance on the components of the plan, but foster a process that can ultimately yield consensus

    Focus especially on the mobilization of the labor movement and the faith community

    Generate emotion: fear, revulsion, anger, disgust

    This published blueprint was endorsed by David Axlerod, Dick Durbin, Jesse Jackson, Carol Browner, Andy Stern, John Podesta, Arianna Huffington, John Lewis, George Soros’s Open Society Institute, ACORN, SEIU, AFL-CIO, Citizen Action and many other left wing individuals and groups.

    Please take special note of this: Need not agree in advance on the components of the plan, but foster a process that can ultimately yield consensus

    To this day, there is no Obamacare: It is still a process being crammed-jammed full of regulations that will micromanage every aspect of healthcare in this country and have a controlling effect on one-sixth of the economy.

    At present, it is the “hated” health insurance companies who are hard a work with the HHS rules and regulations writers to try to influence the outcome to be beneficial to them. The taxpayer insured citizen has no representation and can not even get a copy of the “original” 2700 page bill or the tens of thousands of pages that have been appended to it in the regulation writing phase.

    This bill has nothing much more to do with health care than to force the country to end up with a government single-payer plan and the literal power over our lives that such a plan delivers to the government.

    Robert Creamer also wrote the blueprint for stirring up immigrants and capturing them for the progressive wing of the Democrat political machine.

    In summary, indeed the Democrats are “annoyingly proud of their intelligence or skill in their “too clever by half” posturing and maneuvering, but, more importantly, they have overreached themselves.

    Obamacare is a mare’s nest of bad planning which was passed under the cover of darkness in a crazy rush of manipulation and deceit.

    Obamacare built in the time for mere mortals to build its skeleton and flesh it out, but mainly in the dark corners of clerks, smoothies, nabobs, obfuscation mavens and masters of mumbo jumbo. The time is running out and the job has been rushed and Obamacare is sloppy and loaded with hand grenades.

    It is now up to the states to do the heavy lifting and throw this nightmare phantasm back on HHS and demand that the details be made clear and the price of implementation be costed out and the penalty for non-compliance be stated.

    Then, and only then, will the average citizen get a taste of what Obamacare “hath wrought.”

    Harry Reid will not permit anything in the Senate to come to a vote under rules that would permit the bill to be amended. (Such as the budget.) Therefore, Harry Reid can continue to block nearly all action in Congress toward a national resolution of the patchwork house of cards that is Obamacare.

    It is up to the states. It is time for the states to bring Roosevelt Federalism to the court of public opinion and to a screeching halt. As the national government has by-passed the states, so must the states now stonewall the federal government. They can easily do this by refusing federal funds and forcing Obama to send in the national guard to run some aspect of the state or the entire state, if he so deems.

    This is the “push” meet “shove” moment. Obama has been fairly quick to punish individual states that have given him grief. But the states do not have to take it. There is a huge cost. But this is clearly “red” vs. “blue” in terms of the national tipping point.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 24, 2012 @ 11:02 am - November 24, 2012

  6. Off-Topic: “Hi, we’re the Republican Party. We learn absolutely nothing from our mistakes.”

    Comment by V the K — November 24, 2012 @ 11:51 am - November 24, 2012

  7. Oh, for the Gods sake. Jeb Bush is an honorable man, BUT.
    I just don’t want to go through yet-another Bush-for-President campaign again for at-least another decade-or-two.

    Call me when George P. has some experience legislative and executive experience…or comes out.

    Otherwise let’s see who’s possibly on the bench for 2016, 2020 or even 2024. Since I doubt Gov. Christie’s interested until at-least 2020, let’s see who might be able to challenge or succeed Hillary in 2020 or 2024. The Clintons are NOT going away any-time soon, and I don’t think the GOP can be ready for 2016 to win.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — November 24, 2012 @ 1:22 pm - November 24, 2012

  8. Just look at the 2016 bench and figure out who the biggest establishment hack is; that will be the nominee.

    … and the 2016 nominee will lose because the media and the Democrats will paint him as a racist, out-of-touch, woman-hating jerk who wants to take away their free stuff. And the 10,000,000 newly amnestied Hispanic Democrat voters will ensure that no GOP candidate will ever win again.

    Comment by V the K — November 24, 2012 @ 1:42 pm - November 24, 2012

  9. @8: Uh-oh, VtK has broken the code!

    It’s really painful to watch the libs succeed in getting the electorate to believe that there is such a thing as a free lunch and then watching the GOP intelligentsia draw preposterous conclusions from the aftermath.

    Now the GOP is hot for an amnesty… nothing like making policy that will utterly transform the nation (demographics is destiny) in a panicky lame-duck session (as if the “fiscal cliff” wasn’t bad enough).

    Can anyone believe these morons get paid to govern the nation like this? It’s really hard to blame Joe Schmoe for signing a mortgage he didn’t understand when the Congress passes transformative entitlements it doesn’t understand and has no idea how to fund.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — November 24, 2012 @ 6:22 pm - November 24, 2012

  10. There may yet be a way for the Republican Party to wake up and nominate a winning candidate in 2016 and it depends on only one small bit of managed artifice.

    We should promise the people a national minimum income to everyone who exchanges all of his property, property rights, voting rights and wage-earning rights to the state in exchange for the commune village where everyone can all get together to raise a child. (Although some consideration may have to be given to also control breeding rights by the state.)

    Think on this. The collectives would be populated by like minded people such as pot smokers who would be housed, fed, clothed and supplied with pot and Cheetos and Sponge Bob reruns. If they choose to do meth, they would be transported without charge to that collective where they are free to blow themselves up making the stuff, if they so choose.

    There could be free liberal education collectives with a central hall called the “Echo Chamber” where everyone speaks esperanto and they can write the most wonderful revolutionary tracts and tell the world how to catch the worm.

    We have wonderful places just waiting for these harmonious concentrations of people who want total risk free lives. Franklin Roosevelt himself set up such places and programs for the Japanese who preferred to live together at state expense during World War II. I believe that the Indians (Native Americans) have similar such amenities that are nuanced toward their cultural proclivities.

    The national building program we would undertake to house these wards of the state would propel the engine of the economy into an incredible force of production not seen since WWII. And, there would be zero unemployment because the national minimum income people can not be unemployed by definition.

    The whole enterprise could be promoted under the rubric of “Two Different Worlds.” (TDW in Roosevelt-speak.) Those becoming wards of the state will have it all: equal division of what they are provided based on the formula of “the greatest good you get as a share of a constant number.”

    Those choosing to take a life of risk in the TDW program are free to roam about the country and be taxed and pay for all of their own stuff and insure themselves, or not, as they see fit. They might be out of work or retired, but never unemployed. If a person loses a job, he simply finds another one. And he can always sign off and become a ward of the state.

    The collective villages will not need an economy or currency or even much in the manner of central planning. Malcontents can just live on the fringes inside the village and seethe. However, some villages might like to weave rugs with arcane designs and sell them to the risk takers on the outside. This could be accommodated by a state run trading post that straddles the fence separating the village from the free risk world.

    Well, you get the drift. Valhalla vs. Risk Hell.

    I am still not sure whether children born into Valhalla are destined to live there or if they should have some marginal chance at trying their hand at Risk Hell.

    Levi, Evan and the little letter people would all have their place and they could annoy one another about what is wrong about the outside world until they solve every problem that escaped Pandora’s box.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 25, 2012 @ 10:21 am - November 25, 2012

  11. These two bumper stickers together remind me of all those who are against animal testing for new drugs; yet demand a cure for AIDS, breast cancer, etc.

    Sorry folks, you often have to make hard choices. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

    Comment by Charles — November 25, 2012 @ 4:25 pm - November 25, 2012

  12. I got $100 that says Republicans will cave on taxes and get nothing of substance in return. (A promise of cuts in the future, a promise of entitlement reform, maybe another “bipartisan deficit commission,” but no real cuts to domestic spending, and no real reforms.)

    Anyone wanna take that bet?

    Comment by V the K — November 25, 2012 @ 6:56 pm - November 25, 2012

  13. As the saying goes: “He who blinks first loses.” The republicans are “blinking” all over the place. They are now arguing as to who is the best “blinker.”

    This is what obama has been waiting for these past couple of years. Get them to cave on their “No tax increases” stand, and the next; the next; and the next caves are easier.

    It is really getting sickening. Hard to look at Breitbart with all the headlines pointing out how obama is eviscerating this republic.

    http://www.breitbart.com/

    Damn this really $ucks!!!!

    Comment by mixitup — November 25, 2012 @ 8:12 pm - November 25, 2012

  14. You guys have apparently forgotten that we conservative, tea party types are the problem. /sarc

    Comment by Bastiat Fan — November 25, 2012 @ 10:49 pm - November 25, 2012

  15. Bastiat, only because we have embraced the extremist and racist notion that Government shouldn’t spend 130% of what it takes in.

    Comment by V the K — November 25, 2012 @ 10:59 pm - November 25, 2012

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