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  1. Nobody says that! He’s arguing with his imagination!

    Comment by Levi — December 7, 2012 @ 3:41 pm - December 7, 2012

  2. Sure you lefties say that, Levi. Lefties accuse people of “greed” all the time, who want NOTHING more than to keep the money they’ve earned.

    To claim otherwise is so outlandish, that I hope that I haven’t just been suckered in by a sockpuppet-parody of Levi :-)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 7, 2012 @ 3:46 pm - December 7, 2012

  3. Although it is true that, under Obama, the new incarnation of accusing people of “greed” who simply want to keep what they’ve earned, is now to accuse them of being “unpatriotic”.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 7, 2012 @ 3:49 pm - December 7, 2012

  4. The left doesn’t see it as theft. They are so twisted, they don’t even know what theft is.

    Comment by Paul — December 7, 2012 @ 3:49 pm - December 7, 2012

  5. Paul – That you earned the money to begin with, is what they see as theft.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 7, 2012 @ 3:50 pm - December 7, 2012

  6. Gods, does Levi have to make it so easy? Or is he just running from his own words so fast that he doesn’t remember them?

    Nobody says that! He’s arguing with his imagination!

    Meet

    In our current situation, when rich people are richer than they’ve ever been and paying their lowest rates in decades, raising taxes on the rich is a suitable way of minimizing the deficit.

    Mister

    Because a half billion dollar loan to Solyndra got wasted? That sucks, but that amount of money is a pittance in the grand scheme

    Nobody

    If Mitt Romney is paying less than half of my effective tax rate, then he is not paying his fair share. He has a tremendous advantage because he keeps more of every dollar he earns. Without doing any extra work, without getting a promotion or a raise, my wife and I would be millionaires in a decade if we were paying Mitt’s tax rate off of the tax cuts alone.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 7, 2012 @ 4:06 pm - December 7, 2012

  7. Exactly, ILC.

    Leftists like Levi have no concept of value-add. Having been weaned on a steady diet of doting and overprotective parents who never say no and reward all behavior equally, nurtured by curve grading, and loaded down with “participation” trophies for no-score soccer leagues, they simply don’t get why some people are paid more/receive more/have more than others. They have been taught that this is “unfair” and violates “equality”, and that only “selfish” people have more than others.

    Were they confined to their own sphere and their own cognitive dissonance, it would be OK. However, their cure for their patently UN-equal existence in their five-bedroom, three-car-garage Tahoma Park McMansion is to tax the living bejesus out of everyone else to send money to those poor people they’ve trapped in the DC slums — and then scream that your unwillingness to pay for their social conscience is “selfish” and “greedy”.

    You can figure out the Obamunist mentality very quickly when you see insider-trading millionaire Queen Nanzi shrieking about “the poor” and demanding that all of us pay more to “help” them just before she gets into her taxpayer-funded three-SUV caravan to drive through red lights out to where her private airliner stocked with gourmet food and liquor is waiting to fly her and fifty of her closest cronies to Europe.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 7, 2012 @ 4:09 pm - December 7, 2012

  8. Whenever I hear a grown man complaining about their tax rates, I imagine them pissing into the graves of WWII veterans. Yes, complaining about taxes is unpatriotic. Lots of people died to get this country to the point where people could become billionaires, and now these billionaires want to pretend like they did it all on their own and never got any help from anybody. There are millions of dumbshit conservatives in this country who fancy themselves as billionaires-in-waiting, eagerly lapping up their self-serving theories about economics that are more propaganda than math. And hey, it never hurts to gin up some anxiety over the welfare queens!

    Wealthy Republicans don’t want to fight or pay for the wars that they insist we start, but THEY DEMAND DEFICIT REDUCTION and no they can’t abide tax increases for that problem, either. The only thing that matters is how low you can get a billionaire’s tax rate – that’s why the Pilgrims fled Europe, that’s why George Washington became President, that’s why Jesus died for our sins.

    Just because you figured out how to make a bunch of money in the American economy doesn’t mean you completely understand what makes the American economy tick.

    Comment by Levi — December 7, 2012 @ 4:28 pm - December 7, 2012

  9. Oh really, Levi?

    Why do you and your fellow Obama supporters piss in the graves of World War II veterans?

    Now, back taxes have been a problem for the Obama-Biden administration. You may recall early on that Tom Daschle was the president’s top pick to run the Health and Human Services Department. But it turned out the former Democratic senator, who was un-elected from South Dakota in 2004, owed something like $120,000 to the IRS for things from his subsequent benefactor that he just forgot to pay taxes on. You know how that is. $120G’s here or there. So he dropped out.

    And then we learned this guy Timothy Geithner owed something like $42,000 in back taxes and penalties to the IRS, which is one of the agencies that he’d be in charge of as secretary of the Treasury. The fine fellow who’s supposed to know about handling everyone else’s money. In the end this was excused by Washington’s bipartisan CYA culture as one of those inadvertent accidental oversights that somehow never seem to happen on the side of paying too much taxes.

    And under Geithner’s expert guidance the U.S. economy has been, well, wow! Just look at it.

    Privacy laws prevent release of individual tax delinquents’ names. But we do know that as of the end of 2009, 41 people inside Obama’s very own White House owe the government they’re allegedly running a total of $831,055 in back taxes. That would cover a lot of special chocolate desserts in the White House Mess.

    Why do you and your fellow Obama supporters give lower rates to Obama Party millionaires by exempting them from having to pay taxes and reimbursing them for Obama Party political activity?

    Missouri Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill admitted Monday that she had failed to pay about $287,000 in back taxes and will sell a private plane that has created considerable controversy as she prepares to run for a second term in 2012…..

    The tax revelations are the only the latest problem for McCaskill involving the plane,however.

    In the wake of a Politico report that had billed the government for her travel on the aircraft, she quickly reimbursed taxpayers for the trips, hoping to avoid a protracted political problem.

    But, it was then revealed that she had billed taxpayers for a purely political trip — deepening her potential exposure on the issue.

    And why do Obamunists like yourself exempt Obama Party millionaires from having to pay for local schools and services in DC?

    Ohio Democratic U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown was more than four months delinquent in paying taxes on his Washington, D.C., apartment and had to pay a penalty and interest last week.

    This was not the first time, records show.

    Brown also was delinquent in 2006 and 2007 and paid penalties and interest, according to tax records from the District of Columbia.

    What’s the matter, malicious little liar? Too cowardly to condemn your Obama Party masters? Trying to scream and shriek about how awful conservatives are when we can show that you endorse and support unpatriotic bigots who piss in the graves of World War II veterans?

    Now watch as the boy runs away and tries to spam another thread.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 7, 2012 @ 4:46 pm - December 7, 2012

  10. Whenever I hear a grown man complaining about their tax rates, I imagine them pissing into the graves of WWII veterans.

    Which makes Levi mad, because he wants to do it himself.

    But what happened at Abu Ghraib, and elsewhere in the war on terror, is clearly the result of deliberate and intentional policies laid out by the highest levels of the Bush administration.

    Got that. Protesting about taxes. One of the founding actions of this nation.

    You really are a sick son of a bitch Levi.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 7, 2012 @ 5:27 pm - December 7, 2012

  11. Whenever I hear a grown man complaining about their tax rates, I imagine them pissing into the graves of WWII veterans.

    … who fought to defend the principles of the American Revolution; Levi apparently having zero knowledge of the latter’s connection to tax protests.

    For my part: when I hear Levi spreading his slanders about the actions of the U.S. in recent years, I imagine him pissing into the graves of WW2 veterans, and more.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 7, 2012 @ 5:32 pm - December 7, 2012

  12. GMTA, ILCA. My brother’s a vet. My great uncle was a guard at the Nuremburg trials. Normally I just get annoyed at the little fascist. This makes me want to take him on a tour of SE Ohio.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 7, 2012 @ 5:36 pm - December 7, 2012

  13. Levi, I realize that those billionaires “didn’t build it,” but Obama is not talking about billionaires. He wants taxes to go up on families earning $250,000 a year, calling them “millionaires.”

    Obama’s problem may be that all the super-rich people he knows are crooks. And yes, THEY may have stolen it from The Poor.

    Comment by Polly — December 7, 2012 @ 8:01 pm - December 7, 2012

  14. Oh yes, Levi is so much smarter than a well authored economist who taught at Stanford.
    Levi, why are you hating on the black man, you sniveling little racist.

    Comment by Annie — December 7, 2012 @ 8:03 pm - December 7, 2012

  15. Polly, you are correct in one of Obama’s friends. Go look up what George Soros did in WWll with the belongings of the Jews taken to the camps.

    Comment by Annie — December 7, 2012 @ 8:05 pm - December 7, 2012

  16. Not to mention what he did/is doing to currencies.

    Comment by Annie — December 7, 2012 @ 8:06 pm - December 7, 2012

  17. That’s what Neal Boortz said!

    Comment by Jeffrey — December 7, 2012 @ 8:12 pm - December 7, 2012

  18. Levi honestly believes that those who lost their lives in World War II were fighting for free sh-t from the Government.

    Comment by V the K — December 7, 2012 @ 11:15 pm - December 7, 2012

  19. Liberals don’t believe people are voluntarily charitable and therefore they must be forced to be charitable.

    The other irony here is some of the charities that really go into the trenches to help people are the ones liberals hate. Liberals hate the Salvation Army and don’t want them ringing bells outside Target and Walmart-the the SA is one of the few charitable organizations that will head out and try to help those who the left only thinks about when there is a republican president.

    Comment by Just Me — December 8, 2012 @ 8:31 am - December 8, 2012

  20. Liberals don’t believe people are voluntarily charitable and therefore they must be forced to be charitable.

    Comment by Just Me — December 8, 2012 @ 8:31 am – December 8, 2012

    That’s because liberals aren’t voluntarily charitable.

    Furthermore, you notice that liberals, as I pointed out, demand others pay while they themselves skip out on the system.

    Liberals like Levi are just liars, criminals, and thieves. That’s pretty much all there is to it. They are liberals because liberalism justifies and legalizes mooching, looting, and theft.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 8, 2012 @ 11:26 am - December 8, 2012

  21. Not sure why anyone argues with Levi. I’ve tried, nicely, but liberals like Levi (or some ralatives or Robert B Reich) are impervious to logic or simple arithmetic.

    For me, someone earning all of five figures, wanting the government and it’s dependents to lay off is greed on my part. In constant dollars, the Feds spend twice per capita what was spent in the seventies. And the states have been ramping up, too. Yet it’s not enough. Since I earn it, and I work reasonably hard, I think I’m entitled to something more than “give me more you greedy, racist, unpatriotic bastard” for explanation.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — December 8, 2012 @ 6:40 pm - December 8, 2012

  22. To liberals, stealing by way of high taxation is not greedy. Those people should never earn that kind of money, and if they do, let’s confiscate it. All people should suffer under socialism should be their buzzword.

    Comment by davinci — December 8, 2012 @ 6:52 pm - December 8, 2012

  23. Levi:

    In your comment 8, you said the Pilgrims left Europe because of high tax rates. If I recall from my “racist, sexist, homophobic, ageist, Nazi, misogynist, unpatriotic, (add another nauseating ism from the leftist handbook)” textbooks, the Pilgrims came primarily due to religious persecution and the desire to worship without a state religion.

    But I suppose the textbooks you read come from the Socialist World International organization that demonizes anything American, and supports anything that believes in one world govt or communist philosophy.

    Comment by davinci — December 8, 2012 @ 6:59 pm - December 8, 2012

  24. Not sure why anyone argues with Levi.

    I think it’s ‘cos he represents the stupidity and brainless cultism of all leftists.

    Comment by V the K — December 8, 2012 @ 7:23 pm - December 8, 2012

  25. You can’t argue with a coward who won’t face facts. I primarily just point out his lies with facts. Something alien to him.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 8, 2012 @ 8:58 pm - December 8, 2012

  26. Some lefties don’t believe in charity. One “proud socialist” told me, “Why should you have to depend on charity when government can do it? No one should have to depend on charity.”

    Comment by AZ Mo in NYC — December 8, 2012 @ 9:22 pm - December 8, 2012

  27. “Whenever I hear a grown man ….. [That is singular because it refers to ONE man who is grown] ….. [and I suppose that a grown man is an adult with a functioning mind] complaining about their tax rates, …..[their is plural so the "grown man" must have multiplied in mid sentence] I imagine them …… [still plural] …. pissing into the graves of WWII veterans.”

    So, here is the brilliance of Levi laid bare:

    A man complains about tax rates and morphs into several men and that causes Levi to see these men pissing into the graves of WWII veterans.

    I missed the connection between complaining about tax rates and the pissing. Obama is a grown man who complains endlessly about the tax rates of the rich and therefore, Obama becomes many men and heads off to piss into the graves of WWII veterans.

    And this pissing into graves bothers me a lot. Do we have a lot of open graves in cemeteries filled with the coffins of WWII vets where ordinary tax rates complainers can go and piss into them? How do the tax complainers know that the coffin is a WWII vet and not some schlub who got pushed onto the subway tracks by a homeless person? Is there a sign or something directing tax rate complainers to the place to piss into WWII veterans’ graves?

    Until this is cleared up, I consider Levi to be incapable of intelligent discussion and incompetent to express himself with any sort of logic or clarity.

    Therefore, the dead vets making 2012 people billionaires is just more weed induced running nose snot from the little fascist who is low on Cheetos.

    Comment by heliotrope — December 9, 2012 @ 6:00 pm - December 9, 2012

  28. Greedy Obama voters riot over free sh-t from the Government

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/2000-obama-supporters-lined-up-to-get-free-housing-get-pepper-sprayed-by-police-video/

    Comment by V the K — December 9, 2012 @ 7:14 pm - December 9, 2012

  29. For my part: when I hear Levi spreading his slanders about the actions of the U.S. in recent years, I imagine him pissing into the graves of WW2 veterans, and more.

    Yes, of course. All those people fought and died so that a spoiled rich kid could lie this country into an un-winnable and endless war against people that didn’t attack us. I’m sure they’re looking down at us and smiling with approval about the torture and the dead kids and the greed.

    And I’ll be their favorite part is the tax cuts!

    Comment by Levi — December 9, 2012 @ 8:36 pm - December 9, 2012

  30. Levi’s deranged cultist rants make me chuckle.

    Comment by V the K — December 9, 2012 @ 9:17 pm - December 9, 2012

  31. The thing that shows him as a damned fool? That claiming that the military has a systemic wide policy of torture, approved by everyone, is ‘supporting the troops.’

    If anyone wanted proof that pot kills brian cells, there it is.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 10, 2012 @ 7:53 am - December 10, 2012

  32. And one should remember that Levi is screaming that World War II vets died so that he and his fellow “progressives” could turn the US into a one-party state led by a charismatic racist dictator who wants to nationalize all industries, ignore the legislature and courts, pack government agencies with his cronies, establish a private army to enforce his will, orders schools to force children to sing songs of praise and allegiance to him, and scapegoats Jews and people of the “wrong” skin color.

    As I have said before, Levi’s sole issue with the Nazis is in their execution, not their philosophy.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 10, 2012 @ 8:56 am - December 10, 2012

  33. Not sure why anyone argues with Levi. I’ve tried, nicely, but liberals like Levi (or some ralatives or Robert B Reich) are impervious to logic or simple arithmetic.

    For me, someone earning all of five figures, wanting the government and it’s dependents to lay off is greed on my part.

    I don’t know what to tell you. When I got my first $90 paycheck for a week’s work when I was 16, I was overjoyed. My friends and I noticed the taxes taken out of our checks and made jokes about ‘the man’ and daydreamed about how awesome it would be to take home a greater percentage of what we earned.

    But that’s typically short-sighted, me-first, teenager thinking and I left it behind when I was a teenager. I currently make all of five figures, which I’m not content with, and am currently working on earning more money. I’m also trying to stretch the money I already have by packing lunch, not eating out, buying gas when it’s cheap (not when I’m on empty), comparison-shopping online, and paying off the balances on my credit cards (and avoiding purchases that prevent me from being able to do so). I cancelled cable TV 5 years ago, which has saved me at least $2,000. I’m eagerly awaiting tax season so I can get my refund and invest it. It never occurs to me that I should just get more money by having my tax rate lowered. In my experience, most Americans are pissing away a huge portion of their paychecks on frivolous luxuries or are overpaying for things because they’re lazy, and I would most certainly include myself in that group. But I do what I can. Control your controlables if you want to see more cash in your ledger at the end of every month. Isn’t that more in line with the ethic of personal responsibility that conservatism supposedly espouses versus, say, whining like a teenager about your tax rates?

    In constant dollars, the Feds spend twice per capita what was spent in the seventies.

    Well what do you expect? The seventies was 40 years ago. The rate of technological, economic, and political transformation in that period is unprecedented in human history. We were still a new superpower in the seventies, and now we’re the last man standing. The seventies was when we started realizing what kind of toll industrialization was taking on the planet, but we’ve figured out how to deal with acid rain and holes in the o-zone layer. Schools had not been desegregated for that long in the seventies, and the government had only recently started spending as much money on minority kids as it did on the white kids. And have you heard of these things called computers? The internet? What barely existed in the seventies is now ubiquitous, which presents new opportunities and threats that the government needs to foster or address, respectively. All this stuff costs money! And we’re better off for having spent it.

    And the states have been ramping up, too.

    Nope, sorry, can’t let you complain about the states. The states are making up for shortfalls. If you want the federal government to cut spending, it means you want state governments to have fewer resources. State governments with fewer resources raise taxes.

    Yet it’s not enough. Since I earn it, and I work reasonably hard, I think I’m entitled to something more than “give me more you greedy, racist, unpatriotic bastard” for explanation.

    Uh huh. So, Obama has proposed increasing your taxes, has he? On your five figure income? That’s the plan?

    Most conservatives think that their taxes have already gone up under Obama, which isn’t true. In fact, Obama wants to maintain tax rates on people like you and I, increasing rates only for people that make more than $250,000, and even then not by very much. This is his plan to reduce the deficit, which conservatives say is the thing they want most in the world. But yeah, whatever. Forget all that, and just believe that someone wants to raise your taxes because that’s what you want to believe. Reality has never stopped a conservative before!

    As for patriotism. I don’t think a political faction that simultaneously campaigns for wars and tax cuts could ever deserve the descriptor: ‘patriotic.’ To be patriotic, you have to do or support things that help the country. Giving cash to defense contractors and tax cuts to billionaire is a far more insidious and corrupt form of welfare than food stamps or unemployment benefits, if you ask me. And years later, the same Republicans who had no problem with the costs of those policies and their impact on the deficit killed a bill that would have helped veterans of this war find jobs in an economy where jobs are not that easy to come by.

    So let’s recap: Republicans support wars, regardless of their costs. They support giving tax cuts to the very people who profit from those wars, regardless of their cost. But if the people that do the actual fighting of the war can’t find jobs? Republicans don’t want to lift a finger because it costs too much! Where is the patriotism here? Where am I to detect anything but selfishness, greed, and indifference?

    Comment by Levi — December 10, 2012 @ 10:18 am - December 10, 2012

  34. It is mathematically impossible to support Obamacrat spending levels solely by raising marginal rates on upper income earners. The spending levels of the Federal Government preferred by Obamacrats would require tax rate increases of about 80% for all income levels… assuming that increasingly punitive taxes will not retard economic growth.

    The Cult does not teach math.

    Comment by V the K — December 10, 2012 @ 11:10 am - December 10, 2012

  35. Shorter Levi.

    “I don’t see what you’re complaining about! It’s not like they’re taking your money! They’re taking someone else’s!”

    Thus proving Sowell right.

    Then again, let’s not forget in Levinomics, all money belongs to the government and art, music and works made for enjoyment shouldn’t exist.

    Though I’m sure Leni Reifenstahl would find work in Levi’s America.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 10, 2012 @ 11:24 am - December 10, 2012

  36. Interesting Fact: The Federal Government pays incentives for welfare recipients to keep their kids illiterate and dysfunctional.

    Comment by V the K — December 10, 2012 @ 11:36 am - December 10, 2012

  37. The unhinged cultist Levi shoots himself in the foot again.

    It never occurs to me that I should just get more money by having my tax rate lowered.

    Preceded by:

    I’m eagerly awaiting tax season so I can get my refund and invest it.

    In short, Levi wants everyone else to pay more taxes for the good of the country.

    He, on the other hand, should get a refund.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    And next:

    Giving cash to defense contractors and tax cuts to billionaire is a far more insidious and corrupt form of welfare than food stamps or unemployment benefits, if you ask me.

    Which is hilarious, because Levi endorses and supports Obama Party millionaire and billionaire tax cheats and cash giveaways to millionaire and billionaire Obama donors.

    If Levi actually believed what he was spouting, he would condemn all of these things. But he doesn’t; he’s just lying to cover up his own mendacity and the malicious lies that make up his Obama Party and his “progressive” worldview.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 10, 2012 @ 1:23 pm - December 10, 2012

  38. It never occurs to me that I should just get more money by having my tax rate lowered.

    Then you must really not work too hard.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 10, 2012 @ 2:07 pm - December 10, 2012

  39. If Levi understood even basic math, he would understand that the entitlement culture he cheers for is unsustainable.

    Comment by V the K — December 10, 2012 @ 2:14 pm - December 10, 2012

  40. Then you must really not work too hard.

    Oh my, that’s so brilliant, thank you so much.

    Comment by Levi — December 10, 2012 @ 3:22 pm - December 10, 2012

  41. ILC, we have to remember what the little ignoramus previously shrieked about the taxes for him and his “wife”:

    Without doing any extra work, without getting a promotion or a raise, my wife and I would be millionaires in a decade if we were paying Mitt’s tax rate off of the tax cuts alone.

    Comment by Levi — November 9, 2012 @ 4:59 pm – November 9, 2012

    He then pissed his pants and ran away after I pointed out that was mathematically impossible unless he and his “wife” were making around $400k a year.

    We really are dealing with a moronic child here. He doesn’t know how to do basic math, doesn’t know anything about taxes, and clearly has never done anything other than collect a welfare check.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 10, 2012 @ 4:02 pm - December 10, 2012

  42. As usual, Levi ignores that Romney only pays that rate because, with his charity contributions, he does far, far, far more good in the world than Levi will ever do. Taking his federal, state and charity together, Romney pays at least 50%.

    Levi also ignores that what a person earns is their money. Government, which supposed to be their servant not their master, should feel lucky to be able to get anything from them.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 10, 2012 @ 4:29 pm - December 10, 2012

  43. This would be a good ‘entitlement’ culture: if everyone understood that they are, in fact, morally entitled to what they earn. Government isn’t. Neither is a person entitled to what others earn. But to what a person earns, her own entitlement is morally absolute.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 10, 2012 @ 4:40 pm - December 10, 2012

  44. ILC, I’d be perfectly happy to make an exemption for you. No taxes for ILC! You can keep all the money you earn.

    In exchange, you can never use public services. So don’t call the police department, don’t use streets, don’t patronize any business that operates out of a building that was inspected by fire marshals. You can’t hire anyone that was educated at a public school, you can’t use cell phones or watch TV or anything else that requires the use of public airwaves. You can’t buy any products manufactured by companies that abide by labor or patent laws. I know I’m not leaving you many options, so maybe you could live in the woods?

    Oh, but no woods that are protected national parks. Might I suggest Somalia?

    Comment by Levi — December 10, 2012 @ 4:56 pm - December 10, 2012

  45. I’d be perfectly happy to make an exemption for you

    But I haven’t asked you to.

    Like the truly stupid leftist that you are, you miss the point of what I did say: the better to make a “comeback” in your mind, but it’s imaginary because of how widely it misses the mark of what I did say.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 10, 2012 @ 5:42 pm - December 10, 2012

  46. (continued) And that brings us to where we started at comment #1. Of Sowell, you said this:

    Nobody says that! He’s arguing with his imagination!

    The statement is false on its own terms, as I said at #2; my new point here is that you yourself have just shown a tendency to argue with your imagination. Which means that, when you said it, you were just projecting (again).

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 10, 2012 @ 5:45 pm - December 10, 2012

  47. Not to change the subject, but for those with eyes to see: Here is what happens to the people of a nation, when they apply Levi’s brand of politics for decades: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-06/depression-deepens-greek-middle-class-despair-with-crime-rising.html

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 10, 2012 @ 5:53 pm - December 10, 2012

  48. To be clear: It’s tragic. Everyone please consider praying for humanity’s liberation from the darkness that is leftism.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 10, 2012 @ 5:56 pm - December 10, 2012

  49. The left’s favorite strawman…. if you oppose any wasteful expenditure of Government money at all (like Solyndra, foreign aid for terrorists or teaching Africans to wash their pee-pees)… ipso facto, you want Somalian-type anarchy.

    Strawmen are the favorite props of incredibly stupid people when they try to make an argument.

    Comment by V the K — December 10, 2012 @ 7:30 pm - December 10, 2012

  50. ILC, Greece is burning. This is what “Let it burn” means. Greece is being bailed out by the rest of Eurotopia for now. But there is nobody big enough to bail out the United States.

    Comment by V the K — December 10, 2012 @ 7:31 pm - December 10, 2012

  51. But FTR, I don’t support “let it burn”. I support pro-growth measures which, today’s world being so twisted, may have come to superficially resemble “let it burn”, but with differences of intent as well as practice.

    Greece should do the following:
    1) Default on their debt.
    2) Leave the Euro.
    3) Downsize their government: including both regulation, and public employee pensions.

    In other words, Greece should “go Iceland”. If they do, within a year or two they will be enjoying Iceland-like results.

    Not coincidentally, the U.S. should do the above same things. Taking the fiscal cliff isn’t enough, but it at least starts us on the (long) process of taking necessary and desirable spending cuts.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 10, 2012 @ 9:43 pm - December 10, 2012

  52. (Obviously we can’t leave the Euro, haha. But we can default on our debt honestly – as opposed to a sneak default via the inflationary practice of “let’s just print the money to pay our debts” – and we can, and must and ultimately will, downsize government.)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 10, 2012 @ 9:49 pm - December 10, 2012

  53. ILC, I’d be perfectly happy to make an exemption for you. No taxes for ILC! You can keep all the money you earn.

    In exchange, you can never use public services. So don’t call the police department, don’t use streets, don’t patronize any business that operates out of a building that was inspected by fire marshals. You can’t hire anyone that was educated at a public school, you can’t use cell phones or watch TV or anything else that requires the use of public airwaves. You can’t buy any products manufactured by companies that abide by labor or patent laws. I know I’m not leaving you many options, so maybe you could live in the woods?

    Oh, but no woods that are protected national parks. Might I suggest Somalia?

    Comment by Levi — December 10, 2012 @ 4:56 pm – December 10, 2012

    But of course, Levi doesn’t pay taxes for any of these things; indeed, Levi brags that the government pays HIM every year.

    So what we have is Levi screaming and demanding that everyone else pay, but refusing to pay up himself.

    I have a better idea. Public services should be allocated on the basis of who actually pays the taxes that fund them.

    Let’s see how quickly Levi screams and sh*ts himself and demands to freeload. Because that’s all Levi is — a freeloader and a mooch who doesn’t want to pay his bills.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 10, 2012 @ 11:19 pm - December 10, 2012

  54. But I haven’t asked you to.

    Like the truly stupid leftist that you are, you miss the point of what I did say: the better to make a “comeback” in your mind, but it’s imaginary because of how widely it misses the mark of what I did say.

    Oh, your point! You mean, you hate paying taxes? This is the only point you ever make, and it’s just oh-so-sophisticated.

    Comment by Levi — December 11, 2012 @ 7:14 am - December 11, 2012

  55. LEvi continues to beclown himself. Levi, you’ve admitted you don’t pay taxes already.

    ILC, I prefer to think of Estonia rather than Iceland. What are your thoughts about the movement for states to take ‘their’ gold out of the Fed?

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 11, 2012 @ 8:16 am - December 11, 2012

  56. They should. I ain’t saying the gold ain’t there… I’m only saying that, given the Fed’s secrecy and the possibility that they’ve leased (lent) gold into the market or have otherwise promised the same gold to >1 party over the years, countries would be stupid to trust that it is there. Same with gold being held at the bank of England. The words “encumbrance” and “counterparty risk” ought to mean something to these countries.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 11, 2012 @ 8:24 am - December 11, 2012

  57. you hate paying taxes? This is the only point you ever make

    LOL :-) No; but Levi, to return to the issue of your stupidity and severe backwardness: Perhaps, out of the thousands of points I have made over the years, it was the only one you could grasp?

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 11, 2012 @ 10:36 am - December 11, 2012

  58. Perhaps, out of the thousands of points I have made over the years, it was the only one you could grasp?

    Blind Acorns and Squirrels and the like come to mind.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 11, 2012 @ 10:45 am - December 11, 2012

  59. LOL No; but Levi, to return to the issue of your stupidity and severe backwardness: Perhaps, out of the thousands of points I have made over the years, it was the only one you could grasp?

    Thousands? I doubt it. Complaining about tax rates is what animates conservatives. It’s pathetic, and again, a much more destructive sense of entitlement than any unemployment or healthcare-for-the-poor benefit.

    Comment by Levi — December 11, 2012 @ 10:48 am - December 11, 2012

  60. Yes: thousands. Again, to return to the issue of your stupidity and severe backwardness: Perhaps it was the only one you could grasp?

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 11, 2012 @ 10:58 am - December 11, 2012

  61. As for entitlement: This would be a good ‘entitlement’ culture: if everyone understood that they are, in fact, morally entitled to what they earn. Government isn’t. Neither is a person entitled to what others earn. But to what a person earns, her own entitlement is morally absolute.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 11, 2012 @ 11:00 am - December 11, 2012

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